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  • so its actually legal to download movies and music for free in sweden???

  • I feel much happier knowing that the idiots at hollywood will be going jobless because of piratebay. Over the years they've accumulated ridiculous amounts of money making the most inane and brainless movies imaginable - money got from people who have been seduced by their elaborate marketing gimmicks and money that could have been spent to better effect elsewhere. And also what about all the independent and low-budget film-makers hollywood has driven out of business over the years?

  • 5:20 I want that shirt.

  • Dont get me wrong ,I love the movie industry..but not to the degree that I will go out off my way to pay for their products when I can watch a HD version of their work for free in a few moments..it always comes down to the bottom line..and when it does numero uno wins out..This battle is lost,now its up to them to monetize this somehow or die slowly..solutions like netflix etc is a good start but they need more titles.

  • I think its bullshit the girl said she doesnt want to give them any money and doesnt want to support them. You're obviously downloading these peoples hard work. So it does interest you. Im all for piratebay, i love it and use it. But i also reward good work, i dont mind purchasing a movie or a bands cd if its great. I rent new releases and i rent regular movies 3-4 times a week.

  • My wife lost her job at BlockBuster because they are not making money ... So don't say people don't loose jobs... They shut down over 200 BlockBuster stores ... so ya people are loosing jobs ...

  • @maw88ify Because that couldn't have anything to do with redbox, netflix, blockbuster online (which doesn't support stores staying open), etc...

  • @distantmirage Your telling me piracy nothing to do with it at all ? That piracy didn't force movie to be sold cheaper, and the only way to sale movie that cheap was not have employees ? Thus redbox, netflix, blockbuster BlueBox etc... was born as a chain-reaction of pirated movies...

  • @maw88ify Not saying it didn't. But I can tell you this, for certain, and this is pure fact - I've seen three to four times as many movies in the theaters since I personally started pirating movies. I never used to go, and I used to have a hell of a lot more disposable income before. Now I find ways to go because I want to see shit in the theater as soon as it comes out. Because I've been watching movies more.

    I just wanted to make sure you didn't blame pirating exclusively.

  • @maw88ify Its much like the Automobile and Passenger Plane made the Passenger Train and Ship obsolete. Its evolution and if you can't foresee changes coming and you dig your heels in the dirt refusing to adapt to a changing of the guard then its the stubbornness of companies that hurt themselves. They feel a divine right to hold their place in line of the food chain and the world doesn't work like that. Maybe Ford and Boeing should be paying Amtrak.

  • @maw88ify No one goes to BlockBuster anymore, lololololol.

  • @ToastAndBananas141 Not true now that dish network owns BlockBuster they are making way more money, and they gave my wife her job back with her own store making way more money. She just got her job back last week ...

  • That's odd, I almost always use that same scene from the matrix when explaining in forums why everyone doesn't just swap to linux or other free operating systems. That's got to be one of the top 3 most awesome scenes in any movies.

  • Cool subliminal @ 6:44

  • @daisycutterz you do know that subliminal messages dont really work, right?

  • damn, you are so right! what are the big fancy hollywood companys complaining about? downloading and spreading their data makes their name bigger and bigger. from 'piracy' they eventually will make MORE money!

  • it will never stop is impossisble and thats what people have to accept

    thepiratebay FTW!!!!! xD

  • 6:50 Have any of you heard of GOOGLE??? They give away every piece of software they ever create and yet they are the most powerful corporation in todays world. There was a time when to make money you had to do something new...

  • 4:13 hahahahaha

  • Those workers for 2 big studios asked how can they make money by giving things away for free. But, as with when movie companies started selling their movies on VHS, they don't have to give things away for free. They just have to offer a better product than the 'pirates' can give and sell it for a reasonable price. Since downloaded info has no real tangible value, they make money by distributing it, no matter how little they charge for it.

  • I use torrents as a type of sampler. Watch a bit of a movie, and album. If I like it enough then i will legally purchase the album,movie or game. Also torrents are a good place to find rare music,games, movie and misc software. The industry really should open their fucking eyes to the good things about torrents. They are not losing all that much. Trillion dollar companies just want to line their pockets. For drugs,women, big houses, and lavish dining.

  • Cant the company's just make money of the merc?

  • I'm all for downloading music off the internet. In fact, being able to do so has increased my interest in different bands from other countries, it's just I don't have over $30 to spend on a import cd. I'll buy it once the band has an international lable and the cd is cheaper.

  • I think file sharing is great. I run a small record company, and I find that the current state of the industry really benefits the little guys.

    The truth is that a profit model exists for torrent distributed media. This is not about money: this is about control.

    Torrents allow small companies to sell their music as easily as the large ones... and that is really what they are trying to stop. Large record companies are marketing and distribution agents... and they are obsolete.

  • IF the moviebusiness didnt PAY 45MILLION DOLLARS for ONE ACTOR , it wouldnt be hard to PAY for staff u stupid fuckin hollywood idiot ; GOD , this if fuckin ridiculous

  • lol, they shoulda had Ben Afflect saying "and pay for my second jet that shoots gold"

  • "And pay for my solid platinum 12-year old robot boy with a gem-encrusted penis that squirts crude oil and a genuine panda-skin anus that shits thousand dollar bills and South African rough cut diamonds."

  • LOL so true!

  • Hey anti piracy, If you wanna stop the sharing then shut down youtube for exampel becuse anybody can just copy the musik from a video.

  • These fucking companies make it out for ppl to think that EVERYONE and their mother are using torrents for sharing. But if that was the case and they were loosing money then how the fuck are movies like "The Dark Knight" and such setting new records within weeks of release? Fuck them and all their rubbish

  • yeah.they make all these blockbuster movies and get billions out of it and still consider p2p a threat...that's lame and greedy...DIE MPAA!

  • That, and they also say that every single illegal download is a lost sale, when in fact I know that a lot of things people download for free are things they would not buy normally.

  • i don't understand how they lose money because i WOULDN'T PAY FOR IT IN THE FIRST PLACE!

  • (Y) AGREED. ME NEITHER , Yeah, that's the best exact answer.

  • Ha! Love it:

    "Home cooking is killing the restaurant industry"

  • now THATS funny! ;)

  • "It is ridiculous to believe that you can give a product away for free, and be more successful. I mean it defies the Laws of Nature."

    -Dan Glickman, President, Motion Picture Association.

    Doesn't that make you laugh? He confuses Laws of Business with Laws of Nature.

    The counter point to his comment is to simply look at open source software. More specifically, Linux and BSD. They are given away for free, and if you know how to creatively think, even you can make money from it. (ie: RedHat, etc)

  • This film is so Swedish! :D :)

  • hey I watched the Matrix recently, lol!

    btw... Just because I can download for free doesn't mean I don't still go to the theaters and rent movies. So the film industry isn't even giving away all their products for free anyway.

  • yeah. i agree. i also download music and movies but i still buy original dvd, go to movies and buy original albums of my favorite artists.

  • yeah..i might download an Arch Enemy album because i didn't find it in the stores.....or maybe a Slayer album u know..there are some countries who are raging religious lunatics and enforece their opinions on others by blocking the import of such albums..so i download them u know..but if i get the album somewhere in a shop i'll definitely buy it

  • Same here with breaking benjamin and other bands.I don't fucking find the album.If I listen to a band I rly rly like I go buy the album simple as that.I'd actually say "piracy" has increased the amount of cd's I"ve bought.

  • Swedish girls are hot.

  • Do all Swedish guys have facial hair?

  • yes

  • By your logic when a construction worker spends months working on building a house, he shouldn't be compensated for that time and effort because he owes the house to the world, a doctor working in a hospital day in and day out shouldn't be compensating because he owes that to the world, a cook should work hard and not be compensated because he owes his craft to the world...

  • "in fact the actor in this spot earned more money in one day than this pathetic working class of intellectual property would earn in one month."

    Is the subliminal message in between 1:23 and 1:24, I believe.

  • HOME COOKING IS KILLING THE RESTAURANT INDUSTRY

    AND IT'S TASTY

    ROFLMAO , i almost died lolin at that image .

  • did tanascheel not pay attention when she was watching

  • It isn't the people on the bottom rung who will lose their jobs. Every rung is needed to reach the top of the ladder. If anything, they will be forced to cut back on actors overpriced salaries.

  • "They are too fucking stupid to realize that if they drain their host they will have nothing left to profit upon."

    Holy crap, then they would have to get real jobs, and go back to making film/music as an art form, rather than a business!

    Wait...how exactly is this a bad thing?

  • Because its not up to you to decide if their jobs are worthy or not. You can't steal from someone just because you don't think their profession is noble enough for you to respect. They do a job, they get paid for said job, if you think you know what is right for everyone else... that's called fascism.

  • No, it's not up to me. It's up to society as a whole. Try to remember that you're talking to more than one person right now, even if you're only responding to me.

    File-sharing is merely the beginning of the industry's decline. They're like ice-men after the invention of the refridgerator...their jobs are simply losing relevance. That's called societal evolution.

  • I know Im not talking to one person, and good luck to all of you (those who either don't have the decency not to steal other's work or the funds to pay for what they watch) when producers, directors, actors, musicians and all the people who go into making the videos and music you love to download with their combined talents and funding dissapear... I'd love to see what you lot of social rejects come up with in its place... what "real" art you create.

  • 99% of actors and musicians don't make money doing what they do. The only thing that would happen is the other 1% would join them.

    I gladly donate money to independent movies and musicians (I plan to donate to the makers of this documentary), so the "movies and music" that I love most certainly wouldn't disappear.

    Many of the RIAA boycotters are musicians themselves, and trust me, their music has far more artistic merit than dreck like Britney Spears or Nickelback.

  • Well if that's how you feel then it shouldn't be an issue. You obviously don't like commercial music or movies you say you'd be happy to see them go, so I guess you don't download and watch them anyway.

    And by the way the actors and actresses and musicians, along with the producers and directors are not the only ones who work on commercial movies and are not the ones who would suffer first from this.

  • "Their music has far more artistic merit than dreck like Britney Spears or Nickleback" lol yeah because that's hard to accomplish...

    anyway, yeah if you don't watch commercial movies and listen to commercial music then we don't really disagree. You're not downloading them illgeally.

  • i got an art.. im gonna create one here and now.. the art is philosophy/theory:

    The f(x) copy and f(x) paste is being implemented in everything and everywhere: example human brain, learning = copy make use of knowledge = pasting. :) making a movie comes from using brain activity therefore what producers do is violating "natures" copyright laws! Actually ANYTHING they do eg. (thinking moving an arm) is a violation of that copyright!! They should pay for living actually. lool btw this comment is ©

  • Congratulations you've moved from one fallacy to the other, first ad hominems now exageration and the fallacy of emotion. You aren't making a logical arguement.

  • Not to mention you are using a straw man to make your main "point".

    No one is promoting copyrighting of individual words or even sentences strung together, but the culmination of months of hard labor (not just by producers, directors, actors and muscicians, but all the "little people" who go into the making of these films too as their salaries will get cut as a result of piracy long before the big wigs)

  • okay.. So u believe that there are only positive outcome from movie making and its like gods gift to humans?? Then lets all stop progressing thinking of new ideas.. :s cause with ideas comes progress and that requires less staff less work for the "little people".. hey stop using pc's cause lots of people working in archiving "business" lost there jobs?? i could go on with stupid theories like urs... Again do u see my point?

  • There's that staw man arguement again...

    I never said there was only positive outcome from movie making. I never said anything positive about movie making at all in fact. The only comment I made was one that applies to every profession, if you work on something and put your time and effort into it, you deserve to be compensated.

  • And anyone is free to come up with new ideas, if you have an idea for a film or song or book or anything else, go create it, if you choose to freely distribute it and not profit, I would respect that and you can put it out there online for everyone to access. But that would be your decision to make, not someone elses to make for you.

  • The only stupid theories are the ones you create. That's what a staw man arguement is, you can't argue against what Im actually saying so you are creating new ridiculous arguements and claiming they are mine. You need to pay attention to what is actually being said.

  • The only "theory" I have put forth is what Ive had to repeat 100 times now as you seem to continuously miss it. When people put their time and effort into something they deserve to be compensated for that.

  • How come u dont get that piratebay put in some efforts into there work?? Any other filesharing community put WORK and effort into there projects.. Is that hard to understand?? u really are a noob.. thats why im telling u that u have a double standard in this matter. piratebay for u is not an legitimate projekt / work so ur conclusion is they are bad.. ?? noob! there reward or compensated is that u go and use there site.. !! now go and do it with ur logic!!

  • Again.. I never said that piratebay didn't put effort into their work. I never said any filesharing company didn't put effort into their work, nor did I say they too shouldn't be compensated. Why don't you get that I am allowed to have the opinion that it is wrong to not only steal others work but be proud of the fact that you are "taking them down" while doing it?

  • I never once said that they shouldn't be allowed to exist, I just do not agree with their principles. Deal with it. You may want to decide everyone's morality, but unfortunately you can't, its my opinion and its not changing.

  • Hey im not going to do anything but to deal with "it".. :s Thats what im doing now.. and now and now.. :P

    btw.. Its good that we now are on the same page.. :P

    and now...

  • u really are slow.. Boy it was NOT my POINT to be logical... want me to be more direct then thi?? :s do u know why it was not my point?? normally its a way to express that ur comments are not logical.. nor the corporate world.. :)

  • I know what you were trying to say, it appears you however did not understand what I said, so I'll break it down into language even you should be able to comprehend. You were using logical fallacies. (like the assumption that the corporate world isnt logical because you don't agree with them, like the straw man arguement in changing my position, and like an appeal to fear in drawing your conclusions). Its not the statement itself which I called illogical, it was its intended purpose.

  • *like the corporate world IS illogical

  • wow nice one? and nice one on the "fascism" and "fascist" comment. By putting a comment like that tells me that u do not have any clue on any social skills. Question is if u dont get that the world is bigger then ur own nose, how can u be even be close to make a logic conclusion? on something as filesharing? Here is another mistake u can comment on: "stuidity" spelled without p. guess what i dont live in an English talking country so somehow any comment on my language is just stupid. do u agree?

  • "By putting a comment like that tells me that u do not have any clue on any social skills." I love how you are able to make that comment without any sense of irony.

    Agreed on the language front, I only made one comment about that though, the others are regarding your logic not your english. Which still seems shaky to me as you fail to make a coherent point.

  • "Question is if u dont get that the world is bigger then ur own nose" Thats a question I think you should ask yourself as you seem to only care about your ability to file share and get things for free while my concern isn't about myself (it would be better for me to get everything I wanted for free too, but for the people whose work other's are stealing).

    And again, you obviously fail to understand my arguement as I never took a stance against all file-sharing.

  • I don't have a personal stake in it as my job is not in the movie-making industry, therefore my beliefs, unlike yours are not reached for selfish reasons.

  • lool I could say the same to u.. it not up to u to tell anyone that what they are doing is not noble enough..!! Pirate bay do a job for ME/themselve + many others and they get PAID for it in turns of respect/admiration (like any other artist) and promotion..! Now are u a fascism? or just jealous?

  • Im not telling anyone what is noble or not. Stealing is stealing. If you think its okay to steal from people, do things that hurt others because you don't think they are worthy of not being hurt then you are placing yourself in a higher position, looking down and deciding who to steal from, who to hurt, who to protect. I like independent films and music personally, so Im not deciding they aren't noble, nor am I deciding Pirate Bay arent "noble" they are just theives, and thats just a fact.

  • Am I fascism? I don't really know what that means. No, Im not a political movement. I think you meant am I a fascist? And no, not believing in hurting others which benefits the majority does not make one a fascist. I don't have a problem with people downloading movies (As I said in my original post) my problem is them pretending its a noble craft and not theft.

  • Am I jealous? That doesn't really make much sense in the context of the conversation, besides a random ad hominem on your part. Everyone can download movies, in order to be jealous one would have to be excluded from something the object of your envy isn't, therefore your arguement is again facetious

  • U have so many doubled standards.. Its not up to u to decide the definition of the word thief. remember that! its the law of a country and its people.. in Sweden its NOT illegal to indexing!! if it was, then google, yahoo youtube + ANY site u visit should be illegal..! search on google for a torrent and u understand that its doing the same as piratebay..! Now go on ahead and come with irrelevant facts..!! What they do is create a service. And that is by UR definition.. ur logic! not mine.. :s

  • I'm not creating the word theif, thats pretty much been defined already. Look it up in the dictionary. You are stealing from other people, and Sweden is not the only country in the world. Many countries have made laws regarding intellectual property rights.

  • What u are saying that pirate bay are stealing?? U dident get that they are NOT stealing? What part dont u get? INDEXING IS NOT STEALING... i dont think u fully understand how the internet works.. :s try wiki it.. :s

  • I do get indexing, and my original comment wasn't even about pirate bay, it was about the people who watch videos online rather than pay for them (the people who use their service) and then refuse to admit what they are doing is stealing, and worse still take pride in it.

  • It seams for me that u lack the knowledge on internet, economics and the process of innovation. U are one of those that only can see as far as there nose is pointing out. Filled with prejudice u go on about talking about how bad filesharing is, when its been proven that the real artists get more praise and better work conditions with the new technologies such as sharing.

  • it dosent require any thinking that ANYONE can suddenly be producers by just recording there music at home and get it to millions of consumers by a click! Its not a secret that without a capital NO ONE can and will get success in this world, and that capitol has increased now days to heights that only millionaires can afford to. BUT somehow people who promote filesharing has changed this, now its EVEN for everyone to get a piece of the "cake"!! is this a bad think? For wanting that resources are

  • divided equally? for benefiting MOST people?? and hey isent this the "small people"?? man... today around the world humans are forced to live in poverty cause some millionaires are so greedy. What goes around in music business is the same bs in agriculture, in trading organisations like WTO and so on.. The rich want to stay richand therefore they disregard the fact that they are stealing from me from the poor and from anyone that dont get how THEY work.. :s im out!! peace out!

  • At 6:44 there is a subliminal message taken from the move They Live that appears for half a second.

    I wonder why its there right after the weird British man calls us the enemy?

    huh huh?

  • RON PAUL 2008 Presidential Election...look him up FreedomFighters go to: ronpaul2008dotcom Oh, and please believe, Yashua Messiah is on His way!! Get ready, cuz ready or not Here He Comes!

  • i couldn't stop laughing after 6.28!

  • ROFL @ 6:28 Ye ROFLCOPTER..

  • ROFL LMFAO @ 6:28, that guy is a fucking joke.

  • he looks like he's coked off his face and has suddenly discovered he has the ability to talk reli reli fast

  • sara is FIT!

  • as a very wise man once said, bruce dickinson in Iron Maiden "I don't care, if our music is good enough fans will buy it and go to our concerts" Piracy will only take the shit out of the buisness and standing proud will be the good things that people are actually willing to pay for. I buy the games I LOVE, the CD's I LOVE and I go to the cinema. I know most people do that as well.

  • Yarr its anti commercialism, be afraid. So what if the music industry crumbles. Do you care if a millionaire rapper has to go back to selling crack? Think there won't be any more concerts? So what if the movie empires fall. Most movies suck anyway, Go Youtube. It's beautiful to see a pirate ship sail free and have a bay all its own. Look out! From horizon to horizon the imperial canons are gathering within fatal range. Love a pirate but they must be smeared. Arrr...swab the torrents.

  • We have THE POWER! THE GOVERNMENT SHOULD BE AFRAID OF US! Not THE OTHER WAY AROUND! WE NEED TO COME TOGETHER AND STOP BEING LAZY!!! EVEN KNOWLEDGE IS BETTER THEN ACTING BLIND! PLEASE REPOST EVEN IF YOU DON'T AGREE WITH EVERYTHING!!! SPREAD A MESSAGE OF UNITY TO THE MASSES! NON VIOLENCE- LOVE- PEACE!!!!

  • Well government says its because it would cripple us with tax's!!! Well trillions of dollars in debt hasn't hurt us yet! Right??? Government says it unconstitutional to say you cant run a business if you want to run a business. HA! Unconstitutional! The government is talking unconstitutional.Thats a riot!

  • This is wrong and Very much so MORALLY CORRUPT.... CLINTON was almost impeach for a presidential BLOW JOB. NIXON RESIGNED AFTER TAPING CONVERSATIONS yet bush has been TALKING OUT HIS ASS sense "Well we believe Saddam is harboring Nuclear weapons" And we saw all the stockpile we got from that war. Are people are hurting from lack of HEALTH CARE!!! Because of the capitalism driven private practices. why don't we have universal health care???

  • We are a TRILLION DOLLARS IN DEBT!!!!!! And The government is going TO SPEND money on a WAR to kill are brothers, sisters, fathers, mothers, aunts, uncles, friends and EVERYONE We care about. The patriot act is a testament to are government having to much control over are lives. During Bush's presidency he passed this law which makes it legal for the government to wiretap!!! Record our conversations and thoughts!!!!

  • stop with MUSHROOMS either! Marijuana, Extc ARE Also What is called soft drugs by the U.N And deemed Entirely less harmful then Tobbaco and Alchohal. Those are real studys ran by the U.N. Not some crack head in his basement.

  • As a force. As a generation can put a stop to what we don't like about the government. We are tired of the plites that face us. Wars we don't believe in, drugs being regulated THAT ARE MORE FUCKING DEADLY THEN THE ILLEGAL ONES!!!! The U.N realeased a study last year stating that MUSHROOMS are less harmful then ASPIRIN!!! Now if we were to legalize and regulate this drug rather then oppress it we could make money to help relieve our CRASHING ECONOMY. This doesn't

  • We must take a stand on who we are and what we stand for. Government regulations are out of control. We as a group.

  • To many people our age group aren't fucking taking action. The government has been corrupting our cultures and lives for to long. Are you going to stand for the lies of BUSH? Chaney? Clinton????

  • ...they will never be as fast or as strong, as you can be.

  • "...they will never be as strong or as fast as you could be."

    perfect ending line.

  • I love how he proclaims capitalism with human naure!

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