@xNoReligionx Buddhism does seem peaceful. Even religions that I do not like should have rights to believe what they want but should be kept benign. Human sacrifice used to be very common and now it is not performed (In USA) I think it is an example of following the law.
@vmorgun Well how do you feel about people being told not to use condoms in a place which is rampant with AIDS? Is that manslaughter, murder or just causing human suffering? Because that is what the Catholic church advocates to people in Africa, even telling them that condoms cause AIDS, now that's EVIL!
@vmorgun Was the Doctor who was murdered by Christians in the US a human sacrifice? Or would Christians do as Muslims do and say that those people who perpetrated that crime are not really Christians?
@Hillsillverr Islam is not a cult. It used to be a cult but it grew into a religion. If a cult survives and grows large enough it becomes a mainstream religion. All religions started out as cults.
@Hillsillverr Cult: followers of an exclusive system of religious beliefs and practices; followers of an unorthodox, extremist, or false religion or sect who often live outside of conventional society under the direction of a charismatic leader. Oh, wait - you want to wake me up. If you think I am defending Islam you are are an idiot. Cult is "unconventional". I think you totally missed the point of what I said. Religion is lame, but banning it is utopia. It should be kept benign.
@xNoReligionx I am simply saying that banning all religions/cults has been tried before and it failed - people still find some crap to believe in. The best thing that we can do is weed out the obviously dangerous ones and keep the rest in check. Mass delusions fall apart over time thanks to education.
i friken love russia. they got the right idea. it did get a little to exteam at one point but were past that now. dont restrict religon. simply stop it from growing to quickly. when taht happens crusades and jihads will be the result. in my opinion childhood indoctrination should be illegal. its pretty much mind controll. when they grow up and are exposed to religon if they did not learn as a child they will understand whats realy going on.
Every religion started out as a cult. The only differences to me seem to be the size and maybe the age. Preventing new cults in my view is a good idea. Then we just have to wait for the old ones to die through education and in maybe under 1000 years we could be superstition free, yay :-/...
@mainestategop Atheism is the future for mankind, we are finally growing out of our childish superstitions... well except for a few dumb idiots like you, but hey we all can't be smart and enlightened, can we :) ?
@mainestategop Absolut crap, you are talking about nations which banish religion and replace it with a substitute, that is NOT ATHEISM... It's another ISM like Fascism or Communism. And there is nothing you can do about the FACT that more and more people around the world are waking up to realize that Religion is delusion, and God does not exist. You can say what you like but wishing something don't make it so, and Atheism is growing RAPIDLY :) I'm so happy :)
@xNoReligionx How do you think those nations got there? They stopped worshiping the creator and worshped creation instead. In this case themselves later the state. Those people turning away you talk about are people who have become soft and complacent. Meanwhile there are revivals going on in other parts of the world including the former soviet union where they were once atheistic. Africa and central America are also experiencing revival.
@mainestategop They got there because some evil cunt (a bit like the pope but with more ambition) decided he'd create his own theocracy with him at the top.. that's not atheism. What do you call North Korea? Are you going to tell me that it's an Atheist nation?
You are a stupid fucking cunt, and you have no idea what you are talking about now
@xNoReligionx Again, they worshipped the creation instead of the creator. Everyone worships something whether they know it or not. Cast aside God and something takes up the void. In this case a communist dictator.
@mainestategop um i dont worship anything. Everything has things they deem of greater personal value then the rest but i dont have anything that is 100 percent infallible
@mainestategop Just to make this clear to your Religion poisoned mind, Atheism is not Communism or Fascism. Atheism is not for banning religion, just for putting it in the place where it belongs, which is to say not running the state, and not having special treatment. Communists tried to ban religion which is against freedom and basically stupid, because there will always be morons like you who want to have an invisible friend, well, I'm not stopping you mate :)
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The Russian Government should start with the largest cult of them all; the medieval artifact that permeates Russian society at all levels and has contributed more than anything in Russian history to the backwardness, ignorance and gullibility of the populace: The Orthodox Church.
While something about this kind of bothers me I think this is where we might be headed simply because religion has gotten really out of control in the modern day world.
Religious group >> Tax exempt >> corp tax write off >> unlimited airtime and advertising >> more exposure >> more support >> lobby Congress and Gov to impose laws against Human Rights >> create better laws for themselves >> Religious indocrination >> Tax Exmept.
@MilitantPeaceist No you preached to me like I'm some sort of fucking noob....go make "pals" some where else I am perfectly able to post on my own....
@MilitantPeaceist And you're acting like a hyper active busy body, and it's half the reason people dislike we atheist because they think we (you) but in and "add on" to posts that can stand on their own.
I'm so impressed you know about tax exempt status. I don't want your help no did my post ask for any elaboration, as for name calling well that sums up the childish one right of the bat does it not?
2nd of all, this diatribe you are entering into is pointeless. I never treid to tell you anything and I made that quite clear in my next post and apologised if you took in any other way than to reinforce what you typed.
All the rest of what you are saying is a psychological projection as the only person that is acting like a "Hyperactive busy body" is you.
If you do not like collaboration, there are plenty of islands you can goto!
@MilitantPeaceist Well you know what they say about psychologist right?
As for what you do, and who you are I never solicited any of that information either...go back with a cool calm eye and review who is the one in need of attention....
As for your projection comment, that is interesting too as that has been the internet "buzz word" for the past 45 days.
Seeing how you're a transexual I would assume there would be a great deal of projection on your part? Or have I misunderstood Freud?
@MilitantPeaceist I never attacked you. Go re read this string, you injected yourself into my post, and you were condescending about it. You called me a twat, that was the first insult. If you don't want us knowing you're a transsexual then why post it on your profile? If you don't want us commenting on psychologist then why post it? You offer way to much information on line...you need help. I'm not the one to give it to you. I'll just call bullshit when I hear it.
@MilitantPeaceist No I'm asshole phobic, however you throw your fucking crutch into the conversation. No one asked your job, your school of your gender this is all brought up by and or posted by you. Give yourself more credit, you are a straight up asshole (since you added swearing to the mix) all on your own and not in anyway enabled by any other thing you may be, embrace your assholeishness don't scape goat it on your trnasgenderisim unless the only way you can debate is as a victim.
@MilitantPeaceist another victim asshole (dick666) who can't handle being told when he's full of shit too. You two will make a lovely couple...I assume you catch? Or would Dick he appears to be a bottom....
@MilitantPeaceist Actually you're the troll I posted first and you gleaned onto me. You need a pal and I'm not her....now since you like to swear fuck off....
If you do not want people to add to your comments on a world wide thread - GTF off you tube, lock you stupid door and cry in the corner of an empty room.
i think the host deleted the comments. but he agreed with you then you go off saying, isnt that like exactly what i said, then something about being a fucking noob (lol). he did nothing but agree with you, after that the whole event was just personal attacks on eachother
@izaks14 I disagree I posted a perfectly well thought out comment. The person could have said yes I agree with you Mary and the tax exempt status is bullshit too I would have said yes I agree However he posted to me some preachy fucking so and so ='s this and so and so ='s that and it was like sand in my crotch. I don't mind feed back but dont talk to me like I'm a child This person then was the first to say I was acting like a twat, then this person was the first to swear. My take on it.
@izaks14 as a matter of fact this person is still swearing at me, and I've not addressed it any further to warrant the continuing attacks... However as you can see she/he/it is still pestering me.
I swore at you because you needled a fight out of me.
You continue, in my absence, and refer to me as an 'it'.
That just sealed it for you. You are sad, I hope find peace. This is the thing about atheists that have nothing better to do than exhibit dogmatic, narcissitic behaviour.
I will definately never, ever, ad to a comment of yours again.
You are so great that your comments will stand alone, you have made it quite clear how good you are!
@Mary77577@Mary77577 Well after reading through the comments I would say that you are the only one that has used the "f" word in full, you tubes age limit is 13, and you appear to be acting like a morally indignant ill educated "precious", you have responded to MP with an attitude from your very first comment, including your silly but obvious put downs "she/he/it" which are churlish and unnecessary, as is your attitude.
@Kinkspace well your very first "friend" on here is the same person I'm debating so you are either their sock account or this person could not hold "IT"S" own and e mailed you looking for help and here you are with your panties tied around your head to stick up for your buddy....
You are being disingenuous about the swearing and the name calling too as any review will prove out but why should I expect anything less from internet cowards?
On the contrary, you are accusing me of not being a free thinker. I take that very personally.
However your statement says far more about you than it does me.
The problem here being that you think everybody thinks like you. And they don't and that frustrates the hell out of you cos you just don't get it, do you?
I read through all the comments. You had an attitude from the off. MY take on that.
This post you react again, this time an overeaction because said "You Were ACTING like a twat" - I never called you a TWAT, I said you were ACTING LIKE A TWAT.
I myself sometimes act like a twat too.
If you cannot be civil from the start, like I demonstrated with the previous post, after a person apologises, then
After I apologised and made it clear that I was not fighting you. I offered peace. I said I agreed with you.
Then you went about this post that suggested that I had some sort of other intent, like I was "preaching" and that I must have thought you were "A fucking noob"
If you do not want anybody adding to your post's in future, on a public, world wide thread, then you eother leave you tube, get used to it, or add a disclaimer to every post you ever do for ever until you drop off the perch!
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realizing that I wasn't actually the messiah and was probably mentally ill was probably the toughest thing I had to handle in life. That said, looking back on it all now, kind of a funny story. So yes, ban all cults, triumph modern science, and be a skeptic, don't let crackpots get to your friends and family
Human rights is Paramount to religious law - so tackle UDHR Articla 18 or your argumant fails, as Human Rights protects the freedom to practice religious law.
Russia and the Soviet Union (CCCP) are 2 entirely different structures.
Apostacy is the safe guard of Muslims against their oppressors, Judaism/Judeo Christianity. This violates Article 18 and also is protected by it - you will need to look it up.
Neither, in western democracy, does the punishment fit the crime.
We agree it's not based in fact and is just used for control.
People shouldn't be free to choose what they believe is true when they got their ideas from a brainwashing cult.
We need to protect people from themselves and religion. Since parents have "freedom of religion" they have the right to force it on their kids as well.
Worldwide law should change and ban religion (and pseudoscience such as psychics) all together.
Education is that tool, all we need to do is protect the knowledge of what we know to be true and never let stupidity of ID, creation, or any other ideology into the classroom.
i was just in the middle of an essay about Apostacy, lol, dammit!
I do not like religions either, period, but I do have respect for humans and their choices. Did you read the short essay, I did before, on the origins of these 2 cultures?
Religions are superpowered cultures driven by a skydaddy (diety). The psychological ramifications are endless. It is the perfect tool.
Yes I have in fact. Do you know it is a very small group of Islam teachings that actually practice Burka wearing.
It is like comparing 7th day adventists and saying all Christians do this.
My sister was held up, with a staysharp knife to her neck, with the 2nd knife to her 2 yr old son, by her husnad (& father to the child), just because he was jealous and drunk. He walked scott free.
Do not be ethnocentrical, you seem blind to the troubles we have, alas, cognative dissonace.
Irsael is a great place huh - modern Genocide, global censorship, oh but these Muslims (en mass) is scyrge of the Earth.
I know alot about Shariah Law, I even knew enough to tell you that out of the 1.6B Muslims in the world, not even half of them use Shariah (yes I signed the petition BTW).
Yes I have sisters, you ever try a demagogue with me pal - and you will go down in falmes!
Despite the cults being rampant everywhere there are people who are willing to submit to them. Will Russia once again remove the religious freedoms from the land or be given that right willingly by the people! Communism did persecute all faiths, not just one faith. I am not for the cults but it shows the popular swing for leadership and a void to be filled. To set up territories is ridiculous and the idea that this will help religion is in whose best interest? This hinders the freedom of speech!
I don't know about banning religion. It seems, they could just make a law that states that no laws will be dictated by religion. They could probably even limit the number of churches by size of the city. But when you ban things, people will go for it more because of our rebellious nature. Nah, banning's not the way to go. Just limit their ability to alter the country's politics and taxes. Treat them like you would book clubs, as a hobby.
Christianity Islam and Judaism are cults too right? Or do they not consider them cults once they reach a certain number of mentally ill calling themselves one religion or another?
I guess it's a "real" religion once you have a million or so mentally ill followers....
you nailed it Mary77577. I personally don't believe governments should interfere unless crime are committed such as upholding violent sharia laws etc. but if all religion could be banned by all govs ............
Us atheists always talk about religious freedom. If you concur with this and are an atheist, you are a hypocrite. Nobody should be percecuted for their beliefs. Dechristianization is a process with words as the weapon, not with percecution and oppression.
@Deflectioneer: Religions should be controlled for the same reason that Ponzi schemes are controlled. Its always foreseeable X% of a population will fall victim to their hoax therefore to not control them would be negligible of a government.
I agree, that is far from right. But, as I previously stated, the solution is not percecution. It's education. I know many atheist get angry by just hearing the word "religious", and I admit I feel the same way sometimes, but unless we control that anger, we're going to end up just like them.
The key point here is to avoid hypocracy. If we percecute religious people, what better are we?
its like how we have laws against solicitation in certain places.
Freedom of religion means freedom to believe what you want, but it should not mean freedom to prosthlytise anywhere you want, as that is about nagging others with your views.
They want to protect the vulnerable from these cults/religions and thats ok with me.
As Libertarian I cannot support this law, because when it comes to for example Jehovah's Witnesses, hospitals can already deny them access to preaching to random people at the hospitals, even in free countries. The same goes for people showing up at your door step. Tell them not to come back, and they will not come back.
This law is simply Communism in that the state has to protect individuals. Only individuals can protect individuals.
You can tell them not to come back and they still come back.
I hear people complain about that many times over.
Also, hospitals can only control things at their door, not on the grounds, and try getting police to come arrest a guy for preaching on church outdoors or the sidewalk outside hospitals.
Even then, if your right then this law is redundant at worst, so whats the problem?
If they come back after you unambiguously have told them not to come back, then that is ALREADY illegal. You should tell them that you'll call the police if they come back yet again.
Hospitals need to keep out preachers, and if they can't do that themselves, they have to call the police.
As for vulnerable people then you could use the same logic to ban all private business. They tried that, it's called communism.
The law is redundant probably, but when you allow the state to make laws that even resembles censorship, then you need to fight that law, kick out the government, and elect some competent freedom loving officials to replace them!
Either way, if anti-semitism laws say you cant even practice your faith in your home or holy place then that would be covered by my last sentence.
I did not hear of any russian laws banning judaism from russia, though if I hear about that I will be against it.
But I figured those would be moreso in middle east than in russia. I didnt mean nobody in the world is trying to stop those from believing what they want
That should have been obvious since russia was the topic
You said anti blasphemy laws - they are the same as anti semitism laws. They protect a religion, the people in that religion, ect.
The best way to abort the anto blasphemy laws is to drop the anti semitism laws (which is stupid in itself as every arab is a semite, religious or not).
I hope all organised religion gets banned, what a stupid thing to do in this modern day of education - to play with skydaddies 8/
I thought anti-semitism laws were laws against jews.
anti-blasphemy laws are laws prohinbiting blasphemous statements or actions against a religion.
Those are 2 different types of laws.
What am I missing here?
I also dont think its necessary or productive to ban religions, but I also have no problem with their restriction, as you would any other danger to society.
I am a comedian, well educated and a member of the activist group "Artists Against Racism" - So I cannot apologise for flaming you, but I will stop when you stop being, I wont go there as it will just keep the perpetuation going. You have stopped, as should I!
I know you would not be cool - I was putting things into a global perspective.
be civilised an answer the dam question - why did communism fail?
It's not a silly question as you are the person that tried to belittle another person by saying
"Well I guess you don't know why communism failed then" or whatever you stated. I pulled you up on that, and as I said, you could have answered it by now.
In my channel it says, and I quote
"A flamin' Moron with an Oxy".
It sucks when you are up against a professional comedian and fuck up infront of them!
I didnt say the question was silly, I said it was unanswerable on youtube. If I could make videos that would be useful, but I do not have the ability, and dont feel like putting together the text of an essay needed to properly convey the issues and then fit it all into youtube comments.
As to your name, yeah, that explanation is even worse then the name being oxymoronic because now it just doesnt make sense. It also seems to be you insulting yourself?
My point is that your memory is faulty, so what does it matter that your answer is in your head to be pulled out into a well worded argument on command.
Still, if you think its so easy, then shouldnt take you long to write out your answer.
I just dont have your gift I guess because I would want to do alot more then recall from memory. I didnt just study this stuff this month after all.
If I was able to, and be correct, that blows your hypothesis out the window - huh.
I asked YOU the question - LOL@U trying to twist it now. You do not answer a question with a question - that is called sidestepping.
Neither did I - It is a lifetime of added knowledge, enhanced by a Grandmother who speaks 6 languages and interpreter to official Soviets during the cold war.
I'm not disputing the fact that exploiting the gullible minds with bronze age nonsense is bad, not at all! I just don't believe that it's the job of the state to protect said gullible minds. Having rationalists like us debating against religion is far better than any state law. However there are one thing to be said, and that is that people are responsible for their own minds and lives. If they want to believe something crazy, the state has no right to prevent this.
As for hospitals then it should be up to the individual hospitals to decide and enforce a ban on proselytising, if they so desire. If a bunch of enthusiasts for reality denial then persist in proselytising anyway, then it's up to law enforcement to stop them.
Well, in the libertarian society people are allowed to keep and carry firearms, so as to avoid some batshit dictator marching people into concentration camps. If some religious idiot wants to kill me in the ideal society, I will protect myself, first with reason, but if that fail, I will have to use force.
4 you are not deluded yourself (how would you know?)
5 a nuke was not in existance
Otherwise, having guns and gos, leads to stupid people that shoot their family members to goto heaven and then suicide coz they know they are going to hell.
If you say that does not happen, I have the video!
In Marxist Denmark we have arguably some of the strictest gun laws in Denmark, and guess what? The stupid people kill themselves anyway! If there's no firearm, they'll just use something else, like arson.
Also, I describe a hypothetical situation: Reason will win, and if not, then it's much better to let good people have guns as well as the scum. In Denmark only violent criminals carry firearms. Honest people are sent to jail, if they carry them.
Fact is, it takes alot longer to kill someone without a gun - eg, more lives can be saved within the parameter of time.
You made it sound as if criminal that have weapons 'do not' go to jail.
Fact is, all with firearms go to jail and the fluck was someone doing with one anyway? Honest people do not need guns, so that arguement is a little lame.
What the problem is, is fundamentalism. This can exist from lego to religion, Dogmatic arseholes.
Okay, so it takes a little longer to bleed to death from a stab from a kitchen knife, but does that make any real difference?
I'm not a fundamentalist. I just think that people have a right to defend themselves. And yes, it's worse in America, because of catastrophic decisions in government over the last 100 years. Canada have just as many guns, but not nearly as many murders.
People should have guns, and at the same time people should have no need for guns.
Your question regarding nukes depends on what sort of peace you want, negative peace or positive peace. I take it you would prefer positive peace, as would I, but until we actually get there, it's better to have nukes than not to have them. Let me explain: The only reason the Cold war didn't turn into WWIII is because of nukes. Without them we in Denmark would have been overrun with commies, and a huge bloodbath, possibly beyond that of WWII, would have been the result.
Commies - TYVM, My family is Russian. That was a stupid thing to say, pardon, but it is. It shows a residual hatred for something you were in mere opposition to. All regimes aquire land, this is still going on to this very day, so you have to null that statement.
The nukes scenario is flawed as it only takes one person to set a chain event off - such as everyone having guns.
WW3 - you don;t know the half of it - I will explain in a sec - I am eating.
Do you know that at the end of WW2, the US backed out of the treaty that they signed with Stalin that after the war, the monies would be pooled to help rebuild any countries that were damaged by the War.
The CCCP were increadible allies on our side. In fact they were instrumental in Germans demise due to the retreat into the bitter Russian winter land - Arctic circle.
The CCCP (USSR) was in a crisis. They had sustained incredibale damage and the waterways and land was contaminated by the Germans as tried to retreat (which what stuffed them when they got bogged down in snow).
Millions of Russians, Ukrainians especially, starved to death due to that broken treaty. Over 2 decades of major industry, whilst sanctions were placed - imports too costly - exports too cheep - the CIA counterfeited the Rubel, just to get those people back out of starvation.
CCCP never had the power to fight, there would have never been a WW3, that is a myth, CCCP never had any might in that area at all, and if it did, the US would have been obliterated for breaking that treaty, no war, just obliteration.
This is why the propaganda of 'commies' was so rife in the US. Due to CCCP being atheist, the US added "In God We Trust" to the money and "one nation under god" to the pledge, thus securing the sides - godless and godgiven.
so they banned religion?
FlyinSpaghettiMnstr7 1 year ago
"...what is correct missionary activity..."?????????? Correct =ortho[dox]
MrPipe115 1 year ago
If religions follow the law and are humane and benign - they are fine.
vmorgun 1 year ago
@vmorgun Show me a religion which follows the law, is humane and benign? I don't know any... maybe Buddhism, but I'm not even sure about that.
xNoReligionx 1 year ago
@xNoReligionx Buddhism does seem peaceful. Even religions that I do not like should have rights to believe what they want but should be kept benign. Human sacrifice used to be very common and now it is not performed (In USA) I think it is an example of following the law.
vmorgun 1 year ago
@vmorgun Well how do you feel about people being told not to use condoms in a place which is rampant with AIDS? Is that manslaughter, murder or just causing human suffering? Because that is what the Catholic church advocates to people in Africa, even telling them that condoms cause AIDS, now that's EVIL!
xNoReligionx 1 year ago
@xNoReligionx I think it's terrible and there should be laws against such actions.
vmorgun 1 year ago
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@vmorgun Good you pass the test you are a human being unlike some theists.
xNoReligionx 1 year ago
@vmorgun Was the Doctor who was murdered by Christians in the US a human sacrifice? Or would Christians do as Muslims do and say that those people who perpetrated that crime are not really Christians?
xNoReligionx 1 year ago
@xNoReligionx I do think it's pathetic how people say "he wasn't a real Christian"
vmorgun 1 year ago
@vmorgun Yeah or "they aren't real Muslims"
xNoReligionx 1 year ago
@MrJohnnyrace I call religion mass delusion.
xNoReligionx 1 year ago
If it harms people - the government should step in. All countries should do it.
vmorgun 1 year ago
@vmorgun Then we should ban ALL religion as religion harms people.
xNoReligionx 1 year ago
What about the cult of islam ?
Hillsillverr 1 year ago
@Hillsillverr Yes thanks for brining that up... if ever there was a cult which needs to be banned it's Islam!
xNoReligionx 1 year ago
@Hillsillverr Islam is not a cult. It used to be a cult but it grew into a religion. If a cult survives and grows large enough it becomes a mainstream religion. All religions started out as cults.
vmorgun 1 year ago
@vmorgun All religions are cults, wake the fuk up!
Hillsillverr 1 year ago
@Hillsillverr Cult: followers of an exclusive system of religious beliefs and practices; followers of an unorthodox, extremist, or false religion or sect who often live outside of conventional society under the direction of a charismatic leader. Oh, wait - you want to wake me up. If you think I am defending Islam you are are an idiot. Cult is "unconventional". I think you totally missed the point of what I said. Religion is lame, but banning it is utopia. It should be kept benign.
vmorgun 1 year ago
@vmorgun Just because a Cult becomes a mass delusion does not make it alright, it's still a cult.
xNoReligionx 1 year ago
@xNoReligionx I am simply saying that banning all religions/cults has been tried before and it failed - people still find some crap to believe in. The best thing that we can do is weed out the obviously dangerous ones and keep the rest in check. Mass delusions fall apart over time thanks to education.
vmorgun 1 year ago
@vmorgun Yes I agree with that!
xNoReligionx 1 year ago
i friken love russia. they got the right idea. it did get a little to exteam at one point but were past that now. dont restrict religon. simply stop it from growing to quickly. when taht happens crusades and jihads will be the result. in my opinion childhood indoctrination should be illegal. its pretty much mind controll. when they grow up and are exposed to religon if they did not learn as a child they will understand whats realy going on.
rzq100 1 year ago
Every religion started out as a cult. The only differences to me seem to be the size and maybe the age. Preventing new cults in my view is a good idea. Then we just have to wait for the old ones to die through education and in maybe under 1000 years we could be superstition free, yay :-/...
CptSoda 1 year ago
I support this. Keep your invisible friends to yourself. It's that simple.
LordBLB 1 year ago 2
Looks like things haven't changed in the Russian common wealth except its name.
mainestategop 1 year ago
@mainestategop Yeah Russia is great, I wish we could follow their example.
Religion really makes people sick!
xNoReligionx 1 year ago
@xNoReligionx You would be sent to the Gulags or starve to death. At best you would be shot.
Atheism FAIL. Big time.
mainestategop 1 year ago
@mainestategop Atheism is the future for mankind, we are finally growing out of our childish superstitions... well except for a few dumb idiots like you, but hey we all can't be smart and enlightened, can we :) ?
xNoReligionx 1 year ago
@xNoReligionx Ad hominem at best. Its you who is childish. Every nation that adopts atheism collapses. end of story.
mainestategop 1 year ago
@mainestategop Absolut crap, you are talking about nations which banish religion and replace it with a substitute, that is NOT ATHEISM... It's another ISM like Fascism or Communism. And there is nothing you can do about the FACT that more and more people around the world are waking up to realize that Religion is delusion, and God does not exist. You can say what you like but wishing something don't make it so, and Atheism is growing RAPIDLY :) I'm so happy :)
xNoReligionx 1 year ago
@xNoReligionx How do you think those nations got there? They stopped worshiping the creator and worshped creation instead. In this case themselves later the state. Those people turning away you talk about are people who have become soft and complacent. Meanwhile there are revivals going on in other parts of the world including the former soviet union where they were once atheistic. Africa and central America are also experiencing revival.
mainestategop 1 year ago
@mainestategop They got there because some evil cunt (a bit like the pope but with more ambition) decided he'd create his own theocracy with him at the top.. that's not atheism. What do you call North Korea? Are you going to tell me that it's an Atheist nation?
You are a stupid fucking cunt, and you have no idea what you are talking about now
FUCK OFF! you brainwashed MORON!
xNoReligionx 1 year ago
@xNoReligionx Again, they worshipped the creation instead of the creator. Everyone worships something whether they know it or not. Cast aside God and something takes up the void. In this case a communist dictator.
mainestategop 1 year ago
@mainestategop No not true, I don't worship anything, I don't need to worship anything, I grew up!
xNoReligionx 1 year ago
@xNoReligionx More likely yourself. We all worship something and dont even know it.
mainestategop 1 year ago
@mainestategop I might respect things and people, hold them up as good examples, but worship? No I DON'T worship ANYTHING!
xNoReligionx 1 year ago
@mainestategop um i dont worship anything. Everything has things they deem of greater personal value then the rest but i dont have anything that is 100 percent infallible
BladedArrowTBGamer 1 year ago
@mainestategop Just to make this clear to your Religion poisoned mind, Atheism is not Communism or Fascism. Atheism is not for banning religion, just for putting it in the place where it belongs, which is to say not running the state, and not having special treatment. Communists tried to ban religion which is against freedom and basically stupid, because there will always be morons like you who want to have an invisible friend, well, I'm not stopping you mate :)
xNoReligionx 1 year ago
@xNoReligionx One more thing, watch?v=vrwT2K3SwGk watch all 6 videos. See what happens when God is cast aside.
mainestategop 1 year ago
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Religious persecution? lol
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urantivirus 1 year ago
Religious persecution? lol
Good.
urantivirus 1 year ago
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I Can't Wait For Jehovah To Bring The New System Without Satan's Influence Over The World, No Wickedness, Greed, Perfect Earth And Best Of All No Death!
Revelation 17
Matthew 24
Psalms 83:18
TheMusicCloud 1 year ago
just ban religion, dam.
FlyinSpaghettiMnstr7 1 year ago
good for russia
holypsychopath 1 year ago
The Russian Government should start with the largest cult of them all; the medieval artifact that permeates Russian society at all levels and has contributed more than anything in Russian history to the backwardness, ignorance and gullibility of the populace: The Orthodox Church.
bkishar 2 years ago
a cult is just an unrecognized and socially unacceptable religion. So much for freedom of religion, or thought, or association
RationalOutlet 2 years ago
indian and other nation sould do the same.
mahender6969 2 years ago
While something about this kind of bothers me I think this is where we might be headed simply because religion has gotten really out of control in the modern day world.
Belloran24 2 years ago
that bearded guy bored the hell out of me.
MeestaKeefGirly 2 years ago
Ban all religion since they are all cults...problem solved. Just think of the revenue we could generate calling all churches clubs...
Mary77577 2 years ago
Mary
They are, in fact, clubs.
They have no right being tax exempt.
It sets up a cycle.
Religious group >> Tax exempt >> corp tax write off >> unlimited airtime and advertising >> more exposure >> more support >> lobby Congress and Gov to impose laws against Human Rights >> create better laws for themselves >> Religious indocrination >> Tax Exmept.
It is a scam!
MilitantPeaceist 2 years ago
@MilitantPeaceist I pretty much said that did I not?
Mary77577 2 years ago
Mary
I pretty much agreed with you, did I not?
I just elaborated it, that is all.
Peace, I am not fighting you!
Sorry if it felt that way 8)))
peace out
MilitantPeaceist 2 years ago
@MilitantPeaceist No you preached to me like I'm some sort of fucking noob....go make "pals" some where else I am perfectly able to post on my own....
Mary77577 2 years ago
Mary
No I was not, I was elaborating for the sake of the thread.
Take a chill pill, you are acting like a twat!
MilitantPeaceist 2 years ago
@MilitantPeaceist And you're acting like a hyper active busy body, and it's half the reason people dislike we atheist because they think we (you) but in and "add on" to posts that can stand on their own.
I'm so impressed you know about tax exempt status. I don't want your help no did my post ask for any elaboration, as for name calling well that sums up the childish one right of the bat does it not?
Mary77577 2 years ago
Mary
1st of all, I am a studying psychologist.
2nd of all, this diatribe you are entering into is pointeless. I never treid to tell you anything and I made that quite clear in my next post and apologised if you took in any other way than to reinforce what you typed.
All the rest of what you are saying is a psychological projection as the only person that is acting like a "Hyperactive busy body" is you.
If you do not like collaboration, there are plenty of islands you can goto!
MilitantPeaceist 2 years ago
@MilitantPeaceist Well you know what they say about psychologist right?
As for what you do, and who you are I never solicited any of that information either...go back with a cool calm eye and review who is the one in need of attention....
As for your projection comment, that is interesting too as that has been the internet "buzz word" for the past 45 days.
Seeing how you're a transexual I would assume there would be a great deal of projection on your part? Or have I misunderstood Freud?
Mary77577 2 years ago
Mary
You are so out of line!
Your actions are incredibly reactive, right from the start.
Your ad hominems are perverse and you are making a fool of yourself.
I apologised and yet you still attacked me,
If this is the way you behave, then I wish you well.
Take care and peace!
MilitantPeaceist 2 years ago
@MilitantPeaceist I never attacked you. Go re read this string, you injected yourself into my post, and you were condescending about it. You called me a twat, that was the first insult. If you don't want us knowing you're a transsexual then why post it on your profile? If you don't want us commenting on psychologist then why post it? You offer way to much information on line...you need help. I'm not the one to give it to you. I'll just call bullshit when I hear it.
Mary77577 2 years ago
Mary
I am also going to take to you task on this Transsexual comment.
I put it on my channel because I am not ashamed. You use of it, as an ad hominem.
This tells us more about you than it could ever say about me.
What is your problem with Transgender people? Why see that as an opportunity to ad another ad hominem?
Are you Transphobic? Is this the sort of thing that "sticks' you in the eye due to your perverse nature?
I hope not, coz a biggoted atheist is the lowest - no excuse
MilitantPeaceist 2 years ago
@MilitantPeaceist No I'm asshole phobic, however you throw your fucking crutch into the conversation. No one asked your job, your school of your gender this is all brought up by and or posted by you. Give yourself more credit, you are a straight up asshole (since you added swearing to the mix) all on your own and not in anyway enabled by any other thing you may be, embrace your assholeishness don't scape goat it on your trnasgenderisim unless the only way you can debate is as a victim.
Mary77577 2 years ago
Mary
I never brought up that subject, you went to my channel and introduced it as an ad hominem
Look coughlan666 is on blog TV - you cane rant to your self.
have fun XD XD XD
MilitantPeaceist 2 years ago
@MilitantPeaceist another victim asshole (dick666) who can't handle being told when he's full of shit too. You two will make a lovely couple...I assume you catch? Or would Dick he appears to be a bottom....
Mary77577 2 years ago
mary
now I get it - you are a troll, looking for a fight
so
I love you hun, I really do, youa re the sweetest person I know.
I mean it.
I LOVE YOU 8D
MWA!
MilitantPeaceist 2 years ago
@MilitantPeaceist Actually you're the troll I posted first and you gleaned onto me. You need a pal and I'm not her....now since you like to swear fuck off....
Mary77577 2 years ago
Mary
Grow a brain.
If you do not want people to add to your comments on a world wide thread - GTF off you tube, lock you stupid door and cry in the corner of an empty room.
MilitantPeaceist 2 years ago
we can say the same things about opinions in general mary, i agree with your views. but you were a bit condescending to Militant
izaks14 2 years ago
@izaks14 Start and the beginning please and tell me honestly who started this shit.
Mary77577 2 years ago
Mary
You did - you persisted after I apologised for adding to your comment - OMFG shoot me
MilitantPeaceist 2 years ago
MARY
STFU - you are just lonely and want to let out your demons - this is not my problem - just meltdown somewhere else.
Just go away, and take a chill pill!
MilitantPeaceist 2 years ago
i think the host deleted the comments. but he agreed with you then you go off saying, isnt that like exactly what i said, then something about being a fucking noob (lol). he did nothing but agree with you, after that the whole event was just personal attacks on eachother
izaks14 2 years ago
@izaks14 I disagree I posted a perfectly well thought out comment. The person could have said yes I agree with you Mary and the tax exempt status is bullshit too I would have said yes I agree However he posted to me some preachy fucking so and so ='s this and so and so ='s that and it was like sand in my crotch. I don't mind feed back but dont talk to me like I'm a child This person then was the first to say I was acting like a twat, then this person was the first to swear. My take on it.
Mary77577 2 years ago
@izaks14 as a matter of fact this person is still swearing at me, and I've not addressed it any further to warrant the continuing attacks... However as you can see she/he/it is still pestering me.
Mary77577 2 years ago
Mary
I swore at you because you needled a fight out of me.
You continue, in my absence, and refer to me as an 'it'.
That just sealed it for you. You are sad, I hope find peace. This is the thing about atheists that have nothing better to do than exhibit dogmatic, narcissitic behaviour.
I will definately never, ever, ad to a comment of yours again.
You are so great that your comments will stand alone, you have made it quite clear how good you are!
Your comment was 'untouchable'
MilitantPeaceist 2 years ago
@Mary77577 @Mary77577 Well after reading through the comments I would say that you are the only one that has used the "f" word in full, you tubes age limit is 13, and you appear to be acting like a morally indignant ill educated "precious", you have responded to MP with an attitude from your very first comment, including your silly but obvious put downs "she/he/it" which are churlish and unnecessary, as is your attitude.
My take on it.
Kinkspace 2 years ago
@Kinkspace Good for you yet another needy internet expert who needs to put their two cents in. And I care what you think, why?
Mary77577 2 years ago
@Mary77577 Well you commented didn't you?
Having a bad day are we?
Jeez you must be a real fun person to be around :)
Kinkspace 2 years ago
@Kinkspace well your very first "friend" on here is the same person I'm debating so you are either their sock account or this person could not hold "IT"S" own and e mailed you looking for help and here you are with your panties tied around your head to stick up for your buddy....
You are being disingenuous about the swearing and the name calling too as any review will prove out but why should I expect anything less from internet cowards?
Mary77577 2 years ago
@Mary77577
On the contrary, you are accusing me of not being a free thinker. I take that very personally.
However your statement says far more about you than it does me.
The problem here being that you think everybody thinks like you. And they don't and that frustrates the hell out of you cos you just don't get it, do you?
I read through all the comments. You had an attitude from the off. MY take on that.
You would argue with the stones in the road.
Good night :)
Kinkspace 2 years ago
@Kinkspace yes I am.
Mary77577 2 years ago
So Mary
♥ ♥ ♥ ♥ ♥ ♥
not war
♥ ♥ ♥ ♥ ♥ ♥
Not attack
♥ ♥ ♥ ♥ ♥ ♥
and you'll be a
★★★★★★
MilitantPeaceist 2 years ago
Mary
This post you react again, this time an overeaction because said "You Were ACTING like a twat" - I never called you a TWAT, I said you were ACTING LIKE A TWAT.
I myself sometimes act like a twat too.
If you cannot be civil from the start, like I demonstrated with the previous post, after a person apologises, then
FUCK YOU!!!
MilitantPeaceist 2 years ago
@MilitantPeaceist again the profanity was first introduced by you.
Mary77577 2 years ago
Mary
This is the post where you pushed it.
After I apologised and made it clear that I was not fighting you. I offered peace. I said I agreed with you.
Then you went about this post that suggested that I had some sort of other intent, like I was "preaching" and that I must have thought you were "A fucking noob"
MilitantPeaceist 2 years ago
If you do not want anybody adding to your post's in future, on a public, world wide thread, then you eother leave you tube, get used to it, or add a disclaimer to every post you ever do for ever until you drop off the perch!
MilitantPeaceist 2 years ago
DEPREDADORES o misioneros jejejejeje Estas leyes se nesecitan en Latino America para protejer la poblacion, Alos ninos de la PEDOFILIA y los ADULTOS en hospitales,carceles, y ejército por los VENDEDORES DE ESPERANZAS SOBRE TERRENALES jejejejeje
elmachucho 2 years ago
you dont need to ban cults, just ban inhumane activity all together.
Like forced marriages, genitile mutilations, etc.......
Hillsillverr 2 years ago 2
Wow, sorry to hear that. It's sad that the need to be saved or rescued in some way opens the doors to all kinds of credulity and irrational thinking.
harrycrumb1989 2 years ago 2
Remember Heavens Gate Cult? I believe it was comprised of only 6-8.
harrycrumb1989 2 years ago
Or maybe is was just under 40
harrycrumb1989 2 years ago
realizing that I wasn't actually the messiah and was probably mentally ill was probably the toughest thing I had to handle in life. That said, looking back on it all now, kind of a funny story. So yes, ban all cults, triumph modern science, and be a skeptic, don't let crackpots get to your friends and family
RocknRollAllNiteLong 2 years ago 2
MrJ
Human rights is Paramount to religious law - so tackle UDHR Articla 18 or your argumant fails, as Human Rights protects the freedom to practice religious law.
Russia and the Soviet Union (CCCP) are 2 entirely different structures.
Apostacy is the safe guard of Muslims against their oppressors, Judaism/Judeo Christianity. This violates Article 18 and also is protected by it - you will need to look it up.
Neither, in western democracy, does the punishment fit the crime.
MilitantPeaceist 2 years ago
I believe religion is against human rights.
We agree it's not based in fact and is just used for control.
People shouldn't be free to choose what they believe is true when they got their ideas from a brainwashing cult.
We need to protect people from themselves and religion. Since parents have "freedom of religion" they have the right to force it on their kids as well.
Worldwide law should change and ban religion (and pseudoscience such as psychics) all together.
Wishful thinking ;)
MrsRibs 2 years ago
MrsRibs
Education is that tool, all we need to do is protect the knowledge of what we know to be true and never let stupidity of ID, creation, or any other ideology into the classroom.
UDHR Article 18 has to be crushed!
MilitantPeaceist 2 years ago
MtJ
i was just in the middle of an essay about Apostacy, lol, dammit!
I do not like religions either, period, but I do have respect for humans and their choices. Did you read the short essay, I did before, on the origins of these 2 cultures?
Religions are superpowered cultures driven by a skydaddy (diety). The psychological ramifications are endless. It is the perfect tool.
Timeless, Spaceless, Immaterial, Omnicient, Omnipresent, Omnipotent, Omnibenelovent, & self existant.
MilitantPeaceist 2 years ago
MrJ
Yes I have in fact. Do you know it is a very small group of Islam teachings that actually practice Burka wearing.
It is like comparing 7th day adventists and saying all Christians do this.
My sister was held up, with a staysharp knife to her neck, with the 2nd knife to her 2 yr old son, by her husnad (& father to the child), just because he was jealous and drunk. He walked scott free.
Do not be ethnocentrical, you seem blind to the troubles we have, alas, cognative dissonace.
MilitantPeaceist 2 years ago
MrJ
Scurge of the Earth? Really?
You listen to too much Pat Condell.
Irsael is a great place huh - modern Genocide, global censorship, oh but these Muslims (en mass) is scyrge of the Earth.
I know alot about Shariah Law, I even knew enough to tell you that out of the 1.6B Muslims in the world, not even half of them use Shariah (yes I signed the petition BTW).
Yes I have sisters, you ever try a demagogue with me pal - and you will go down in falmes!
MilitantPeaceist 2 years ago
MrJ
Yes I know that, I actually know alot about Islam, Judaism, Christianity and its 10,000+ denominations.
Do you know that Shariah law is not used by most Muslims?
Not a matter of choice for 'some' is the operative word here!
Human Rights is giving the right to the individual to decide and choose - by banning a bit of clothing, you enter into oppression, dictatorship, ect
Tell me what happens to 'some' women when they refuse sex to a drunken man. Don't be naive!
MilitantPeaceist 2 years ago
MrJohnny
You can only help that situation through education, not through banning clothing.
I still lol at the thought od banning a piece of clothing.
What next - the gimp mask?
Seriously, I will wear the thing if it gets banned. What a silly notion.
Suddenly the attention get turned on school uniforms (ask any kid, they don't want to wear unfoirms).
Jail uniforms, nah casual smart dress for them! And fuck it, whike we are at it, how dare the astronaughts wear bubble burka's
MilitantPeaceist 2 years ago
Despite the cults being rampant everywhere there are people who are willing to submit to them. Will Russia once again remove the religious freedoms from the land or be given that right willingly by the people! Communism did persecute all faiths, not just one faith. I am not for the cults but it shows the popular swing for leadership and a void to be filled. To set up territories is ridiculous and the idea that this will help religion is in whose best interest? This hinders the freedom of speech!
zhrob1 2 years ago
Religious people are locking themselves in bunkers? Good! Hope more start aswell haha!
lanceawatt 2 years ago 2
Ooorah!
alexeykh 2 years ago
I don't know about banning religion. It seems, they could just make a law that states that no laws will be dictated by religion. They could probably even limit the number of churches by size of the city. But when you ban things, people will go for it more because of our rebellious nature. Nah, banning's not the way to go. Just limit their ability to alter the country's politics and taxes. Treat them like you would book clubs, as a hobby.
MonkeyBallZ214 2 years ago
Christianity Islam and Judaism are cults too right? Or do they not consider them cults once they reach a certain number of mentally ill calling themselves one religion or another?
I guess it's a "real" religion once you have a million or so mentally ill followers....
Mary77577 2 years ago
@Mary77577 Damn powerful stuff written there. I agree. They are all cults no matter the size or popularity or age.
nickonoise 2 years ago
you nailed it Mary77577. I personally don't believe governments should interfere unless crime are committed such as upholding violent sharia laws etc. but if all religion could be banned by all govs ............
kewpiesbadhairday 2 years ago
More Scientic method...that in itself should eliminate some religious insanity
kewpiesbadhairday 2 years ago
Us atheists always talk about religious freedom. If you concur with this and are an atheist, you are a hypocrite. Nobody should be percecuted for their beliefs. Dechristianization is a process with words as the weapon, not with percecution and oppression.
Deflectioneer 2 years ago
@Deflectioneer: Religions should be controlled for the same reason that Ponzi schemes are controlled. Its always foreseeable X% of a population will fall victim to their hoax therefore to not control them would be negligible of a government.
markthenicholson 2 years ago
@markthenicholson
I think I just found Sheldon Cooper's Youtube account.
Deflectioneer 2 years ago
i disagree religion imposes its views on kids and that aint right
neoarcadezr 2 years ago
I agree, that is far from right. But, as I previously stated, the solution is not percecution. It's education. I know many atheist get angry by just hearing the word "religious", and I admit I feel the same way sometimes, but unless we control that anger, we're going to end up just like them.
The key point here is to avoid hypocracy. If we percecute religious people, what better are we?
Deflectioneer 2 years ago
@Deflectioneer are you sure are an atheist.....
neoarcadezr 2 years ago
I dont see how this is persecution.
its not saying they cant believe what they want.
It only limits where they can prosthlytise.
its like how we have laws against solicitation in certain places.
Freedom of religion means freedom to believe what you want, but it should not mean freedom to prosthlytise anywhere you want, as that is about nagging others with your views.
They want to protect the vulnerable from these cults/religions and thats ok with me.
waltermh111 2 years ago
@waltermh111
As Libertarian I cannot support this law, because when it comes to for example Jehovah's Witnesses, hospitals can already deny them access to preaching to random people at the hospitals, even in free countries. The same goes for people showing up at your door step. Tell them not to come back, and they will not come back.
This law is simply Communism in that the state has to protect individuals. Only individuals can protect individuals.
AtheistJon 2 years ago
Actually, not true.
You can tell them not to come back and they still come back.
I hear people complain about that many times over.
Also, hospitals can only control things at their door, not on the grounds, and try getting police to come arrest a guy for preaching on church outdoors or the sidewalk outside hospitals.
Even then, if your right then this law is redundant at worst, so whats the problem?
waltermh111 2 years ago
Lastly, no, not only individuals can protect themselves.
The point here is people taking advantage of the vulnerable
waltermh111 2 years ago
@waltermh111
If they come back after you unambiguously have told them not to come back, then that is ALREADY illegal. You should tell them that you'll call the police if they come back yet again.
Hospitals need to keep out preachers, and if they can't do that themselves, they have to call the police.
As for vulnerable people then you could use the same logic to ban all private business. They tried that, it's called communism.
AtheistJon 2 years ago
The law is redundant probably, but when you allow the state to make laws that even resembles censorship, then you need to fight that law, kick out the government, and elect some competent freedom loving officials to replace them!
AtheistJon 2 years ago
lol, libertarians.
You keep living in your own world.
brainwashing is bad, and taking advantage of the weak is bad and only american libertarian and conservatives thinks otherwise.
Oh, and also those theists in the other western countries pushing anti-blasphemy laws think so.
They promote the censorship against speaking bad about them, but you promote the inability to classify them as they really are.
Not like anybody is trying to stop them from believing what they want to themselves
waltermh111 2 years ago
walter
Reaaaaaly
What are anti-semitism laws then, you twat!
MilitantPeaceist 2 years ago
what anti-semitism laws?
Either way, if anti-semitism laws say you cant even practice your faith in your home or holy place then that would be covered by my last sentence.
I did not hear of any russian laws banning judaism from russia, though if I hear about that I will be against it.
But I figured those would be moreso in middle east than in russia. I didnt mean nobody in the world is trying to stop those from believing what they want
That should have been obvious since russia was the topic
waltermh111 2 years ago
walter
What anti semitism laws? ROFL
You said anti blasphemy laws - they are the same as anti semitism laws. They protect a religion, the people in that religion, ect.
The best way to abort the anto blasphemy laws is to drop the anti semitism laws (which is stupid in itself as every arab is a semite, religious or not).
I hope all organised religion gets banned, what a stupid thing to do in this modern day of education - to play with skydaddies 8/
MilitantPeaceist 2 years ago
wait, what?
I thought anti-semitism laws were laws against jews.
anti-blasphemy laws are laws prohinbiting blasphemous statements or actions against a religion.
Those are 2 different types of laws.
What am I missing here?
I also dont think its necessary or productive to ban religions, but I also have no problem with their restriction, as you would any other danger to society.
waltermh111 2 years ago
walter
Try and criticise Judaism - and see what laws are thrown at you. Anti semite laws are laws
MilitantPeaceist 2 years ago
walter
Sorry - somehow the post was premature.
Anti semitism laws are there TO PROTECT THE RELIGION OF JUDAISM AND IT'S PEOPLE - it is not against Jews at all, it is the exact opposite!
So you think organised crime, religion and all other organisation that launder money, be it illeagal or tax dollars, are cool huh.
Well that is the reason why America has spent billions fighting creationists that us Tax money (billions) to get ID in schools.
Waste of time & money and criminal!
MilitantPeaceist 2 years ago
lets try this again
The confusion here is something I dont feel bad about because whoever called them anti-semite laws was stupid.
Anti-blasphemy laws are laws against blasphemy, yet anti-semitism laws are laws against anti-semites, lol
Weird.
As to the rest of your post, your agian reading into things that arent there, and it doesnt make sense anyway.
Why would you think that I am cool with money laundering and other acts you describe?
What about ID pushing?
What is your point
waltermh111 2 years ago
walter
Please look up the term anbit-semite and read what it says, it says no different to what I have said.
Anti-semitism laws were put in place after WW2 to protect the Jews from further danger.
The UN also adopted war crime laws (which Israel has warrant;s out for as we speak) to prevent any further genocidal atricities.
The fact is - we have global anti-racist laws, anti-semitism laws are just an elaborate, focussed, anti blasphemy law.
Muslims are semites too, but are not covered
MilitantPeaceist 2 years ago
walter
I am a comedian, well educated and a member of the activist group "Artists Against Racism" - So I cannot apologise for flaming you, but I will stop when you stop being, I wont go there as it will just keep the perpetuation going. You have stopped, as should I!
I know you would not be cool - I was putting things into a global perspective.
ID - sorry, Intelectual Design.
eg. Creation
6 day universe
Rapture
6000 year old earth
66%+ of the US population believe in this.
MilitantPeaceist 2 years ago
also, name calling is uncalled for.
Try being civilised.
But then you have an oxymoronic name, so maybe you dont really want a civilised discussion and are just confused about everything.
waltermh111 2 years ago
walter
You are insulted with the name 'twat' - ok try child, or silly person, or a plethera of unimportant diatribe.
You failed to tell me why communism failed and you sidestep the conversation.
You are actually speaking with a very well educated person, my manner is brash, woohoo, long live the flamer of fucktards!
Now I will settle, if you deliver!
The oxymoron - well done - look at my channel and I reference the oxymoron.
Civilised, is everything you did not do in this post!
MilitantPeaceist 2 years ago
Why do you keep reading things that arent there?
I said lets be vcivilised, and that has nothing to do with whether I am insulted or not.
It means dont lower the discourse as far as to get personal.
It just ends up ruining a serious conversation.
It did make me a bit reactionary since your name was just too easy to pick on for its oxymoronic nature. Not like I made that one up.
I didnt see anything about your name on your channel except a repeat of the word peaceist
Wouldnt change what it is
waltermh111 2 years ago
walter
be civilised an answer the dam question - why did communism fail?
It's not a silly question as you are the person that tried to belittle another person by saying
"Well I guess you don't know why communism failed then" or whatever you stated. I pulled you up on that, and as I said, you could have answered it by now.
In my channel it says, and I quote
"A flamin' Moron with an Oxy".
It sucks when you are up against a professional comedian and fuck up infront of them!
MilitantPeaceist 2 years ago
I didnt say the question was silly, I said it was unanswerable on youtube. If I could make videos that would be useful, but I do not have the ability, and dont feel like putting together the text of an essay needed to properly convey the issues and then fit it all into youtube comments.
As to your name, yeah, that explanation is even worse then the name being oxymoronic because now it just doesnt make sense. It also seems to be you insulting yourself?
What a character.
waltermh111 2 years ago
Walter
No the answer can be done, you just need to apply the same amount of time doing it, rather than avoiding it.
Welcome to comedy - lost on the witless!
MilitantPeaceist 2 years ago
I dont get your last line.
Did you mess up and get caught at a comedy club last night where the comedian went after you for laughs?
waltermh111 2 years ago
I also again do not side step the issue, I state a fact that you are trying to simplify a complex issue.
I dont care if you are IQ 200 and 10 degrees, the fact that you want me to simplify a complex issue is a poor representation of your inteligence.
Beside the fact that your proud of being anti-social and uncivilised.
Rude behavior isnt for the intellectual. You just give us all a bad name and make it harder for people to take your words serious.
You obviously care since you comment so much
waltermh111 2 years ago
walter
Look at how many posts you have done now - over 3000 characters, each post is a post closer to that anti goal of yours.
You side stepped the issue, and added an ad hominem, you are really bad at this game!
Grow a freeking brain cell that divides FFS - get a thicker skin and stop playing the victim.
Answer the question or you are fucktard waving your penis around, pissing on people, coz your bladder lost it's valve!
MilitantPeaceist 2 years ago
Yes, but these posts are all responses and unexpected and took no time to write.
As I wrote in another post just now, I would have to pull together an essays worth of text.
I dont do things half way. or I could go research links as I dont have the info bookmarked.
Either way, its alot more trouble then just commenting as reactions to your posts.
Hope you can use your education to see the difference.
waltermh111 2 years ago
Walter
All I have to do is use my memory - so you are saying that you don't really know and you need time to revise and compile the answer!
I know the difference - my education allows me to 'retain' information, not just educated in researching things "I don't know".
So either you do know, or you are not fully up to speed with the topic, there is no middle ground, this is what you used to belittle someone.
You do not like it when someone belittles you, so don't do it - PERIOD!
MilitantPeaceist 2 years ago
hope this works, youtube is screwing with me
My point is that your memory is faulty, so what does it matter that your answer is in your head to be pulled out into a well worded argument on command.
Still, if you think its so easy, then shouldnt take you long to write out your answer.
I just dont have your gift I guess because I would want to do alot more then recall from memory. I didnt just study this stuff this month after all.
waltermh111 2 years ago
walter
Prove my memory is faulty! (ad hominem)
If I was able to, and be correct, that blows your hypothesis out the window - huh.
I asked YOU the question - LOL@U trying to twist it now. You do not answer a question with a question - that is called sidestepping.
Neither did I - It is a lifetime of added knowledge, enhanced by a Grandmother who speaks 6 languages and interpreter to official Soviets during the cold war.
I prolly could be shot for the things I know!
MilitantPeaceist 2 years ago
Also, retention doesnt come from education, some have better recall memory then others.
Like some having photographic memory and some not.
I dont feel bad that I am not perfect or at least dont have great recall memory.
waltermh111 2 years ago
walter
Way to keep the posts rolling in.
You could answered the question, asked your self more, and answered them too!
MilitantPeaceist 2 years ago
walter
So lets cut the crap - I don't like it when I see aomeone act all superior about knowledge and use that notion to belittle someone.
I am educated enough to bring your arguements to it's knees, and make money from that too.
You just happened to do it infront of me, which is ;
1 your bad luck
2 your character flaw that you used without provocation
If you would like to exchange knowledge that is different, you will see a completely diferent side to me.
MilitantPeaceist 2 years ago
So if the law is redundant then what is the problem?
I addressed the hospital issue. The church cant control all the grounds.
The point is to make it well known to all that no prosethlytising is to be done within a radius of such facilities from my understanding.
Even areas the hospital cant control, so that people coming out distressed or on drugs, etc... arent suckered.
Also, it sounds like you dont know why communism actually failed.
And no, my logic nor this law would ban most business
waltermh111 2 years ago
I'm not disputing the fact that exploiting the gullible minds with bronze age nonsense is bad, not at all! I just don't believe that it's the job of the state to protect said gullible minds. Having rationalists like us debating against religion is far better than any state law. However there are one thing to be said, and that is that people are responsible for their own minds and lives. If they want to believe something crazy, the state has no right to prevent this.
AtheistJon 2 years ago
As for hospitals then it should be up to the individual hospitals to decide and enforce a ban on proselytising, if they so desire. If a bunch of enthusiasts for reality denial then persist in proselytising anyway, then it's up to law enforcement to stop them.
AtheistJon 2 years ago
The problem is that we arent islands.
Its fine for people to be gullible until they kill you for their beliefs.
Many people have a need to push their views onto others, so as a society we try to balance those urges.
I am fine with people believing in ghosts as long as they keep it private. Its not something that canbe disproven which makes it dangerous.
This law isnt trying to prevent people from believing what they want either.
Unless your playing the slippery slope argument.
waltermh111 2 years ago
walter
Look up
UDHR Atricle 18
MilitantPeaceist 2 years ago
Does it ban holy places or practice in your home?
You read it, so simple question.
waltermh111 2 years ago
Well, in the libertarian society people are allowed to keep and carry firearms, so as to avoid some batshit dictator marching people into concentration camps. If some religious idiot wants to kill me in the ideal society, I will protect myself, first with reason, but if that fail, I will have to use force.
AtheistJon 2 years ago
Atheist
That's good if you have
1 the bigger gun
2 not deluded and have the bigger gun
3 there are less of them than there are of you
4 you are not deluded yourself (how would you know?)
5 a nuke was not in existance
Otherwise, having guns and gos, leads to stupid people that shoot their family members to goto heaven and then suicide coz they know they are going to hell.
If you say that does not happen, I have the video!
MilitantPeaceist 2 years ago
In Marxist Denmark we have arguably some of the strictest gun laws in Denmark, and guess what? The stupid people kill themselves anyway! If there's no firearm, they'll just use something else, like arson.
Also, I describe a hypothetical situation: Reason will win, and if not, then it's much better to let good people have guns as well as the scum. In Denmark only violent criminals carry firearms. Honest people are sent to jail, if they carry them.
AtheistJon 2 years ago
AJ
Same in Australia. Worse in America.
Fact is, it takes alot longer to kill someone without a gun - eg, more lives can be saved within the parameter of time.
You made it sound as if criminal that have weapons 'do not' go to jail.
Fact is, all with firearms go to jail and the fluck was someone doing with one anyway? Honest people do not need guns, so that arguement is a little lame.
What the problem is, is fundamentalism. This can exist from lego to religion, Dogmatic arseholes.
MilitantPeaceist 2 years ago
Okay, so it takes a little longer to bleed to death from a stab from a kitchen knife, but does that make any real difference?
I'm not a fundamentalist. I just think that people have a right to defend themselves. And yes, it's worse in America, because of catastrophic decisions in government over the last 100 years. Canada have just as many guns, but not nearly as many murders.
People should have guns, and at the same time people should have no need for guns.
AtheistJon 2 years ago
AJ
Yes it does - you get a chance for medics to help you. Don't you understand that?
I never called you fundamental, at all, I do not know you well enough to have any opinion based on a few pixels.
This arguement is best explained by exagerating the concept.
If every country had nukes, would it be a safer place to live, than a world that never had nukes?
MilitantPeaceist 2 years ago
Your question regarding nukes depends on what sort of peace you want, negative peace or positive peace. I take it you would prefer positive peace, as would I, but until we actually get there, it's better to have nukes than not to have them. Let me explain: The only reason the Cold war didn't turn into WWIII is because of nukes. Without them we in Denmark would have been overrun with commies, and a huge bloodbath, possibly beyond that of WWII, would have been the result.
AtheistJon 2 years ago
AJ
Commies - TYVM, My family is Russian. That was a stupid thing to say, pardon, but it is. It shows a residual hatred for something you were in mere opposition to. All regimes aquire land, this is still going on to this very day, so you have to null that statement.
The nukes scenario is flawed as it only takes one person to set a chain event off - such as everyone having guns.
WW3 - you don;t know the half of it - I will explain in a sec - I am eating.
MilitantPeaceist 2 years ago
AJ
WW3
Do you know that at the end of WW2, the US backed out of the treaty that they signed with Stalin that after the war, the monies would be pooled to help rebuild any countries that were damaged by the War.
The CCCP were increadible allies on our side. In fact they were instrumental in Germans demise due to the retreat into the bitter Russian winter land - Arctic circle.
As soon as WW2 was over, US started the cold war.
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MilitantPeaceist 2 years ago
The CCCP (USSR) was in a crisis. They had sustained incredibale damage and the waterways and land was contaminated by the Germans as tried to retreat (which what stuffed them when they got bogged down in snow).
Millions of Russians, Ukrainians especially, starved to death due to that broken treaty. Over 2 decades of major industry, whilst sanctions were placed - imports too costly - exports too cheep - the CIA counterfeited the Rubel, just to get those people back out of starvation.
MilitantPeaceist 2 years ago
CCCP never had the power to fight, there would have never been a WW3, that is a myth, CCCP never had any might in that area at all, and if it did, the US would have been obliterated for breaking that treaty, no war, just obliteration.
This is why the propaganda of 'commies' was so rife in the US. Due to CCCP being atheist, the US added "In God We Trust" to the money and "one nation under god" to the pledge, thus securing the sides - godless and godgiven.
MilitantPeaceist 2 years ago