I bet if it was backed against thing..supported...it would have penetrated more...goes back to newton physics there....the power was just being transported to the steel and then it released it by flying in the air
did some research, NAAMO lists no such round, they claim on their website to produce ammo from 12.7mm(.50 cal) to 20mm. you said the block weighs 10 lb, a block of A2 of that size would weigh alot closer to 60 lb than 10, and all raufoss rounds currently in the US are technically illegal because the only way to get them is to steal them from a US military base.
no it wont make a mess cause tissiue is soft u need to hit something hard where can i get the tungsten carbine ap rounds ??? ne help ppl thanxx in advance
Is this Raufuss round like the famous .50BMG Raufuss round in that it is a Armor Piercing, Incendiary and High Explosive "all in one" projectile? If so, then that is amazing that they made a .30 caliber version of it and watch out body armor!
Supposed to be the same stuff, but I dont think it has a steel core in the .30 cal. There was very little penetration at all. Just a big flash and a tiny divot in the metal...
@dangslow Actually studies have been done on that, whether they are legal for anti personnel use or not because I believe there are laws against using explosive rounds under a certain size against personnel, they found that they pretty much go through before they explode, but if the person is against cover or the bullet hits at a certain angle it can be inside when it detonates, making it illegal, though it seems to be permitted for snipers.
Can a rifle chambered in .308 accept 7.62 x 51mm rounds in all instances or are there restrictions? (ie. like some .223 rifles not being able to fire 5.56 x 45mm rounds, but all 5.56 x 45mm being able to fire .223 round without any problems)
the 7.62x51 is the metric designation for the .308 Winchester. There are match grade rifles that are made to tolerances tight enough that they need to be handloaded for. Sometimes the old loose-tolerance military stuff just wont fit anything but a loose tolerance military rifle. Every rifle is on a case-by-case basis, and every choice is at your own risk.
My .308 has a tight neck, so I reload for it. If I dont, some rounds develop high pressures with flattened primers.
The civilian one has slighly shorter chamber so it may not take .308Nato, was done on purpose, the military guns can thus take all civilian .308 but not necessarily the other way around
not at all. The difference is pressure. 7.62x51mm has a lower pressure, and will chamber in .308win rifles. They're dimensionally the same, but the nato round is thicker walled, yeilding less case volume.
That is a piece of tool steel that is about 6 by 7 inches, and 2 inches thick. It weighs about 10 pounds or so. The mark left by the bullet is the size of a penny.
I've read on the internet (so it MUST be true) that rauf is being redesigned in the .50 cal projo and offered in the 20mm little mini-grenade for the new modular infantry rifle.
Sounds cool. It'd give a ton of punch to the average Soldier...
Are you sure its 'raufoss'? Raufoss has the indicator of a white band under a green painted tip; and not just a light blue tip. The green and white tip raufoss was origionally developed in norway and probably has native symbols on 50bmg but not sure of it on .308.
Nope. Not sure at all. Since I put up this video I did some research and discovered it may very well have been simple incindiary.
Whatever it was, it looks awesome when you do a full mag dump with it!
I bought a bunch at a shoot in New Mexico years ago. When I got home I cleared my rifle prior to cleaning and THIS round came popping out. Came pretty close to an accidental discharge, it was just the habit of weapon clearing that saved me.
I'm not LE and I was able to buy. At the shoot, there were cops who were shooting also and they didn't seem to have any problem with it at all. Depends on your State laws too. California wont even let you have firecrackers...
They make them. I dont think Law Enforcement would have much use for them. The military still uses them, and they have every round that comes off the load line. With our current wars I dont expect to see any surplus of any specialty ammo for a long time.
Yea plus the companies that make em wouldnt sell them to civilians anyways probably. Just like AP "black tips", they aren't illegal everywhere but they won't sell em to you either.
It was just straight up raufoss with the light blue tip. I dont think they ever made raufoss tracer in .308, just .50 BMG but I could be wrong. This round was just a single color light blue tip that I wanted to shoot into a chunk of metal to see what it would do. As it turns out, it didn't do much at all...
Maybe if you had held the block in place the penetration would have been better
ppitm 4 months ago
I bet if it was backed against thing..supported...it would have penetrated more...goes back to newton physics there....the power was just being transported to the steel and then it released it by flying in the air
TheBabyGenocide 7 months ago
did some research, NAAMO lists no such round, they claim on their website to produce ammo from 12.7mm(.50 cal) to 20mm. you said the block weighs 10 lb, a block of A2 of that size would weigh alot closer to 60 lb than 10, and all raufoss rounds currently in the US are technically illegal because the only way to get them is to steal them from a US military base.
mcdowellbri 7 months ago
I think what you have is super incendiary raufoss which does not have a tungsten carbide penetrator.
drewsisely 7 months ago
no it wont make a mess cause tissiue is soft u need to hit something hard where can i get the tungsten carbine ap rounds ??? ne help ppl thanxx in advance
TheJohn10992 10 months ago
Is this Raufuss round like the famous .50BMG Raufuss round in that it is a Armor Piercing, Incendiary and High Explosive "all in one" projectile? If so, then that is amazing that they made a .30 caliber version of it and watch out body armor!
wargod2009 1 year ago
Supposed to be the same stuff, but I dont think it has a steel core in the .30 cal. There was very little penetration at all. Just a big flash and a tiny divot in the metal...
dangslow 1 year ago
I heard about blackwater shooting people with these...
Gordonalways1 2 years ago
Yea, that would make a mess...
dangslow 2 years ago
@dangslow Actually studies have been done on that, whether they are legal for anti personnel use or not because I believe there are laws against using explosive rounds under a certain size against personnel, they found that they pretty much go through before they explode, but if the person is against cover or the bullet hits at a certain angle it can be inside when it detonates, making it illegal, though it seems to be permitted for snipers.
EvaUpfold 1 year ago
Im thinking about hunting down and killing the mIchigan dogman. Its like 6-10ft tall probably 300-500lbs.
Think this would do it? Im thinking .50 from pointblank range from inside a titanium cage.
derfsanderson 2 years ago 2
Shot placement is the key. Be sure to watch out for his alien allies to couterattack though. You DO know he is from outer space, right?
dangslow 2 years ago 7
can a Civilian own these? i bet these would kill an elephant
greatestsongsofLIFE 2 years ago
Depends on your State, but I imagine that the military is getting every round that comes off the assembly line right now.
dangslow 2 years ago
not really, that steel was really hard, if it was against milder steel it would have dont alot more.
headphones222 2 years ago
Why does the explosion start at the bottom of the screen then work its way to the box?
CCCXSE 2 years ago
I dont see that happening.
dangslow 2 years ago
Can a rifle chambered in .308 accept 7.62 x 51mm rounds in all instances or are there restrictions? (ie. like some .223 rifles not being able to fire 5.56 x 45mm rounds, but all 5.56 x 45mm being able to fire .223 round without any problems)
InItForTruth 3 years ago
the 7.62x51 is the metric designation for the .308 Winchester. There are match grade rifles that are made to tolerances tight enough that they need to be handloaded for. Sometimes the old loose-tolerance military stuff just wont fit anything but a loose tolerance military rifle. Every rifle is on a case-by-case basis, and every choice is at your own risk.
My .308 has a tight neck, so I reload for it. If I dont, some rounds develop high pressures with flattened primers.
dangslow 3 years ago
Yes, the 7.62X51 is just a NATO designation for the Winchester .308
sakoshooter48 2 years ago
@sakoshooter48 they are different though
halogod1170 1 year ago
The civilian one has slighly shorter chamber so it may not take .308Nato, was done on purpose, the military guns can thus take all civilian .308 but not necessarily the other way around
Kenzofeis 2 years ago
not at all. The difference is pressure. 7.62x51mm has a lower pressure, and will chamber in .308win rifles. They're dimensionally the same, but the nato round is thicker walled, yeilding less case volume.
Pantallicadeth 2 years ago
was that a slab of steel? of was in hollow or something? geez, if that was a solid chunk of steel it must hav weighed 250 or so pounds!
billson556 3 years ago
That is a piece of tool steel that is about 6 by 7 inches, and 2 inches thick. It weighs about 10 pounds or so. The mark left by the bullet is the size of a penny.
dangslow 3 years ago
oh, the camera made it look bigger, LOL
billson556 3 years ago
I've read on the internet (so it MUST be true) that rauf is being redesigned in the .50 cal projo and offered in the 20mm little mini-grenade for the new modular infantry rifle.
Sounds cool. It'd give a ton of punch to the average Soldier...
dangslow 4 years ago
its been in .50 since wwii
493175001 3 years ago
I have seen raufoss in 7.62x39, and .308 and not just the 50BMG.
bmwsux1 4 years ago 4
Are you sure its 'raufoss'? Raufoss has the indicator of a white band under a green painted tip; and not just a light blue tip. The green and white tip raufoss was origionally developed in norway and probably has native symbols on 50bmg but not sure of it on .308.
bmwsux1 4 years ago
Nope. Not sure at all. Since I put up this video I did some research and discovered it may very well have been simple incindiary.
Whatever it was, it looks awesome when you do a full mag dump with it!
I bought a bunch at a shoot in New Mexico years ago. When I got home I cleared my rifle prior to cleaning and THIS round came popping out. Came pretty close to an accidental discharge, it was just the habit of weapon clearing that saved me.
dangslow 4 years ago
Whatever round it was, it looks like it penetrated at least a 1/4 [.25] inch into the metal. Not bad for a .308
bmwsux1 4 years ago
where can i get some of those?
gandb21 4 years ago
you cant!
JenkyBoom 4 years ago
I haven't seen .308 raufuss in YEARS. Last time I saw any was at a shoot in Reno, it was .50BMG and it was 110 bucks each.
I think the best way to blow stuff up when you shoot it is to buy some Tannerite and just mix it right there...
dangslow 4 years ago
they dont make em anymore or you have to be in law enforcement?
gandb21 4 years ago
I'm not LE and I was able to buy. At the shoot, there were cops who were shooting also and they didn't seem to have any problem with it at all. Depends on your State laws too. California wont even let you have firecrackers...
dangslow 4 years ago
They make them. I dont think Law Enforcement would have much use for them. The military still uses them, and they have every round that comes off the load line. With our current wars I dont expect to see any surplus of any specialty ammo for a long time.
dangslow 4 years ago
Yea plus the companies that make em wouldnt sell them to civilians anyways probably. Just like AP "black tips", they aren't illegal everywhere but they won't sell em to you either.
gandb21 4 years ago
is that the
308 Raufus high explosive ammo
308 red and blue tip incendiary tracer ammo
Arnovitz 4 years ago
It was just straight up raufoss with the light blue tip. I dont think they ever made raufoss tracer in .308, just .50 BMG but I could be wrong. This round was just a single color light blue tip that I wanted to shoot into a chunk of metal to see what it would do. As it turns out, it didn't do much at all...
dangslow 4 years ago