Nobody said love them more than your friends and family. Quite to the contrarary God encourages having a loving relationship with your spouse and children. But he also wants you to have a loving relationship with him. It doesn't mean you have to be an extremist and love him more than anything.
On the other hand if you want to be counted out of Heaven, then suit yourself.
.........But you are wrong,as Christians our Lord comes before anything and anyone,INCLUDING OUR FAMILY. We are to love the Lord with all our soul,mind and strength.He's first,our wives 2nd,our children 3rd,our church family fouth.After that there will be a differing on what comes next.
There is a difference sdt1944 , between get suicide , blow yourself up to be rewarded by God , and to witness for the truth and being condemned to death 'by others' for it ..
The disciples were killed as their Master was killed just because they preached love , testified for the truth and made miracle , and there's a big difference in here , between dying for your own good , and dying for the sake of others .
Thanks for the awesome video. If you are looking for truth and not drowning in your own bias, it will give the Holy Spirit and opening to truly open your eyes. The problem with all those that attack the presentation is they prefer their own darkness then allowing the Love of Christ to penetrate the darkness. Christ died for all of us while we were his enemies and never stops loving us even when we deserve His righteous judgement. CHRIST LIVES and I LOVE HIM Because He first loved me.
Great video! Jesus is alive & well. He just raised a guy from the dead by the power of His name...Jesus! It can be found on Ch. 7 News in FL, the broadcast from early February 2008 has a modern day resurection... in Jesus name! Google it! Somebody is bound to put it on youtube. Keep proclaiming the truth brother!
Jesus did not know ONE of the authors of the Gospels and those were their INTERPRETAIONS of the life of Jesus - HEARSAY...They were not signed or attested Gospels and were ACCORDING to them. Those people never existed and some say Luke was a physician to Paul...They died for whatever .... so what?....did the Germans die for the cause of HITLER ....some did MANY were co erced ....
So this God was nailed to the Cross?...God who created the Universe which is BILLIONS OF LIGHT YEARS ACROSS?.....Jesus was real but was a man who was a Messenger of God who brought the Gospel which was lost FOREVER - he did not die but raised alive to the Heavans
No, for the reasons I've cited. Even when I was a believer, I thought the "they never cracked" argument was of dubious value in Christian apologetics precisely because the same argument can be made for adherents of non-Christian religions.
The prophesies in the Bible,Jesus resurection,are good reasons to be a christian.I think the cracked argument is good given the when and where it took place.
Considering the common excepted morals of the time.
I suspect you believe Joseph Smith didn't truly have a revelation from God that led him to establish Mormonism. If you don't believe he had this revelation -- that it was all made up -- how do you explain the fact that Mr. Smith never "cracked," but went to his death (a violent death) defending the religion he had founded?
Joseph Smith may have had a revelation, from what he believed to be GOD. But the Book of Mormon has many, as you know, historical inaccuracies, unlike the Bible, which is still used in historical analysis to this day.
I'm not really seeing how this explains why Mr. Smith never "cracked," but went to his death (a violent death) defending the religion he had founded. But thanks, in any case.
From memory Joseph Smith was shot by an angry Mob whilst in Jail. He wasn't given a choice of 'renounce your religion and live', he thought that the mob were Mormons coming to free him. Correct me if I am wrong please.
It would be speculation on my part to assume that he would have cracked under inquisition. I believe he was trying to set himself up as a Mormon monarch, and believed his followers would come to free him. Do you believe he would have 'cracked' under an inquisition? or Like I said, he may have believed that the revelation he recieved was from God, but the innacuracies in the Book say other wise.
I understand that. My point is that there have been lots of people who have claimed to witness a divine revelation and who, despite persecution (even threats of death), never recanted. They're not all Christian. If the "they never cracked" argument strengthens the Christian case, it strengthens the non-Christian case, too. See what I mean?
Well, if one assumes for the sake of argument that he believed that he had received a revelation from God and was on a divine mission to estabish the true church and so on, it seems to me that would have placed him in the same position as the apostles, who also believed they had received a divine revelation. Long story short, I don't think the "they didn't crack" argument gets ones very far in establishing the truth of Christianity.
This argument shows that under the most torturous conditions, the apostles remained true to their testimony of the resurection of Jesus Christ. yes it doesn't go far in establishing the whole truth of Christianity, but it does support the ressurection argument. Do You Agree?
No, for the reasons I've cited. Even when I was a believer, I thought the "they never cracked" argument was of dubious value in Christian apologetics precisely because the same argument can be made for adherents of non-Christian religions.
Many people died for a wrong believe, that is not unusual. Look at the unfortunate people blowing themselves up believing they will be rewarded by God and receive 70 virgins! The incredible truth of this video is that 12 people closest to Christ died without recanting. 100% did not recant. Do you remember the Watergate 12- they all crumbled under no threat of death! Jesus Lives and Love you friend.
actually, i am so tired of hearing this biblical bullshit.., where the fuck is this little fsg, jesus. if he shows up, i want to see who will kill her first
these people were smoking weed.. jesusm is dead.. hey the bible is fiction. it was written by men to control others.. you need to wake up and get your head out of your ass
THAT'S RIGHT SON!
kingmichele27 1 month ago
That was the most awesome thing I've ever seen. If I had more time, I'd have to use the format for some serious topic. :D Thanks!!
ideologger 3 months ago
So let me get this straight your supposed to love God and Jesus more than your own family and friends??? Count me out.
LordMalice6d9 3 years ago
Nobody said love them more than your friends and family. Quite to the contrarary God encourages having a loving relationship with your spouse and children. But he also wants you to have a loving relationship with him. It doesn't mean you have to be an extremist and love him more than anything.
On the other hand if you want to be counted out of Heaven, then suit yourself.
rhdez11 2 years ago
.........But you are wrong,as Christians our Lord comes before anything and anyone,INCLUDING OUR FAMILY. We are to love the Lord with all our soul,mind and strength.He's first,our wives 2nd,our children 3rd,our church family fouth.After that there will be a differing on what comes next.
CBALLEN 2 years ago
There is a difference sdt1944 , between get suicide , blow yourself up to be rewarded by God , and to witness for the truth and being condemned to death 'by others' for it ..
The disciples were killed as their Master was killed just because they preached love , testified for the truth and made miracle , and there's a big difference in here , between dying for your own good , and dying for the sake of others .
comali2212 3 years ago
Amen.
IZAKDAVID911 3 years ago
Thanks for the awesome video. If you are looking for truth and not drowning in your own bias, it will give the Holy Spirit and opening to truly open your eyes. The problem with all those that attack the presentation is they prefer their own darkness then allowing the Love of Christ to penetrate the darkness. Christ died for all of us while we were his enemies and never stops loving us even when we deserve His righteous judgement. CHRIST LIVES and I LOVE HIM Because He first loved me.
sdt1944 3 years ago
Great video! Jesus is alive & well. He just raised a guy from the dead by the power of His name...Jesus! It can be found on Ch. 7 News in FL, the broadcast from early February 2008 has a modern day resurection... in Jesus name! Google it! Somebody is bound to put it on youtube. Keep proclaiming the truth brother!
healthygal 4 years ago
yes, it's a damn miracle they didn't crack, otherwise we would be living in a world of war and greed from the lies of our ancestors.
chrisgreendog 4 years ago
Jesus did not know ONE of the authors of the Gospels and those were their INTERPRETAIONS of the life of Jesus - HEARSAY...They were not signed or attested Gospels and were ACCORDING to them. Those people never existed and some say Luke was a physician to Paul...They died for whatever .... so what?....did the Germans die for the cause of HITLER ....some did MANY were co erced ....
salahuddin786 4 years ago
So this God was nailed to the Cross?...God who created the Universe which is BILLIONS OF LIGHT YEARS ACROSS?.....Jesus was real but was a man who was a Messenger of God who brought the Gospel which was lost FOREVER - he did not die but raised alive to the Heavans
salahuddin786 4 years ago
You are wrong
goldmarker 4 years ago
You are right? .... I doubt it .... you THINK you are right ..... rather you are astray and lost
salahuddin786 4 years ago
God rules in the affairs of men.
Whistlegip 4 years ago
No, for the reasons I've cited. Even when I was a believer, I thought the "they never cracked" argument was of dubious value in Christian apologetics precisely because the same argument can be made for adherents of non-Christian religions.
The prophesies in the Bible,Jesus resurection,are good reasons to be a christian.I think the cracked argument is good given the when and where it took place.
Considering the common excepted morals of the time.
Whistlegip 4 years ago
leave it an idiot, to come up with something like this.. you just don't get it. do you????
UniversalAtheist 4 years ago
Neither do you.
IZAKDAVID911 4 years ago
no actually I do get it, this is why I don't follow jesus.. the m-fer id dead and he is staying dead..
UniversalAtheist 4 years ago
no actually I do get it, this is why I don't follow jesus.. the m-fer id dead and he is staying dead..
No He is alive. Go away with your profanity!
We don't want it!
Whistlegip 4 years ago
shut the f up
UniversalAtheist 4 years ago
leave it an idiot, to come up with something like this.. you just don't get it. do you????
Get out of here with your name calling!!!!
Christians don't care for that kind of disrespect.
Repent and humble your heart before God.
Whistlegip 4 years ago
I suspect you believe Joseph Smith didn't truly have a revelation from God that led him to establish Mormonism. If you don't believe he had this revelation -- that it was all made up -- how do you explain the fact that Mr. Smith never "cracked," but went to his death (a violent death) defending the religion he had founded?
ProfMTH 4 years ago
Joseph Smith may have had a revelation, from what he believed to be GOD. But the Book of Mormon has many, as you know, historical inaccuracies, unlike the Bible, which is still used in historical analysis to this day.
IZAKDAVID911 4 years ago
I'm not really seeing how this explains why Mr. Smith never "cracked," but went to his death (a violent death) defending the religion he had founded. But thanks, in any case.
ProfMTH 4 years ago
From memory Joseph Smith was shot by an angry Mob whilst in Jail. He wasn't given a choice of 'renounce your religion and live', he thought that the mob were Mormons coming to free him. Correct me if I am wrong please.
IZAKDAVID911 4 years ago
It would be speculation on my part to assume that he would have cracked under inquisition. I believe he was trying to set himself up as a Mormon monarch, and believed his followers would come to free him. Do you believe he would have 'cracked' under an inquisition? or Like I said, he may have believed that the revelation he recieved was from God, but the innacuracies in the Book say other wise.
IZAKDAVID911 4 years ago
This video is of what the witnesses said they saw with their own eyes, and kept their testimonies even under torture & inquisition.
Praise God.
IZAKDAVID911 4 years ago
I understand that. My point is that there have been lots of people who have claimed to witness a divine revelation and who, despite persecution (even threats of death), never recanted. They're not all Christian. If the "they never cracked" argument strengthens the Christian case, it strengthens the non-Christian case, too. See what I mean?
ProfMTH 4 years ago
I see what you mean on that point.
911GANG 4 years ago
Well, if one assumes for the sake of argument that he believed that he had received a revelation from God and was on a divine mission to estabish the true church and so on, it seems to me that would have placed him in the same position as the apostles, who also believed they had received a divine revelation. Long story short, I don't think the "they didn't crack" argument gets ones very far in establishing the truth of Christianity.
ProfMTH 4 years ago
This argument shows that under the most torturous conditions, the apostles remained true to their testimony of the resurection of Jesus Christ. yes it doesn't go far in establishing the whole truth of Christianity, but it does support the ressurection argument. Do You Agree?
911GANG 4 years ago
No, for the reasons I've cited. Even when I was a believer, I thought the "they never cracked" argument was of dubious value in Christian apologetics precisely because the same argument can be made for adherents of non-Christian religions.
ProfMTH 4 years ago
I will be uploading more video clips in support of the Bible & Christianity.
IZAKDAVID911 4 years ago
Many people died for a wrong believe, that is not unusual. Look at the unfortunate people blowing themselves up believing they will be rewarded by God and receive 70 virgins! The incredible truth of this video is that 12 people closest to Christ died without recanting. 100% did not recant. Do you remember the Watergate 12- they all crumbled under no threat of death! Jesus Lives and Love you friend.
sdt1944 3 years ago
actually, i am so tired of hearing this biblical bullshit.., where the fuck is this little fsg, jesus. if he shows up, i want to see who will kill her first
UniversalAtheist 4 years ago
these people were smoking weed.. jesusm is dead.. hey the bible is fiction. it was written by men to control others.. you need to wake up and get your head out of your ass
UniversalAtheist 4 years ago
hahaha. typical simplist argument of the simpleton atheist.
lominho 4 years ago