6 thousand years ago? What are you talking about? There are records of humanity existing 10000 years ago! And there are proof that humanity existed before that too. What about the dinosaurs? What about the big bang? Have you explained that?
Why can't we agree that God is real, created the universe, and decides we should decide how to act without intervening. It fits everything but the bible's narration of history.
Only that the bible was written by men. Gossip and Rewriting distorts things, even unwillingly.
If gravity is a billionth stronger/weaker the universe wouldn't operate as efficiently, same with the expansion of the universe, which makes the plausibility of a creator and fine tuner probable if this is the only universe.
I believe time and space is infinite and that there are infinite universes out there, as infinity does exist and we just can't comprehend it and I believe we are living in 1 of very few probable universes which can efficiently operate by chance. As for god, we don't know
No offense man, but this isn't "proof", this is stating what you believe. A more appropriate title for this would be "Why I believe God exists". And don't get me wrong, I'm in no way trying to denigrate you for your beliefs, if that's what you believe, more power to you. But there was no definitive proof or evidence in what you said.
there is proof that the earth has existed billions of years before human kind. what do you say about dinosaurs?
ignoring science is easy. but let me ask you this: if the bible is right about anything,than why are there so many mistakes in it? and why didnt god put the most important rule of mankind to his 10 commendments: "every human being is equal"
why didnt he do that? he would have saved billions of lifes! that seems much more important to me than "dont fuck other bitches than your wife!"
@jmann114 wow, great answer... i guess this is your last resort if an atheist powns you. anyone can be a brainless follower as well. anyone can be dumb. anyone can ignore science.
go and pray to santa claus for forgivness for me please. thx. or to the flying spaghetti monster. whatever
You proved absolutely nothing in fact I think you proved that god is more to an extent of just a flymsical fancy, basically you said earth was created 6,000 years ago, yet there is definitive proof that is not true.
Time cannot start because for time to start that would mean there would be a period before time. Thats not possible because that is still dealing with time, there would have to be a time before time. Its nonsense. And to say a God created time and was before the existence of time is just assinine. You would have to say God existed as soon as time began. God couldnt have existed before time because there was no before, now, or after, so he couldnt take any action that would have had an effect.
All this video relates is the God of the Gaps. It is no proof at all, simply an apeal to ignorance. I am a Christian by the way. God does not need proof, faith is what counts.
Let me tell you why your a fucking imbecile say there was no water then we would have evolved to no longer need to drink so your idea that it was made that way is fucking stupid I got you in a corner go ahead and reply but remember your stupid
Saying that the universe is proof of God existing is like saying a puddle is proof of God. If you were the puddle and say "The ground has conversed in such a way that I am perfectly shaped and the water gathered here. An intelligent being must have created me," because the rain, or God, still comes down, and if the ground hadn't conversed in such a way, there will be another area where the ground has conversed, therefor causing another puddle!
I think, rather, the answer to your first question relating to whether or not you would give me said chocolate bar is "yes and no". Not to get too off topic, it's closely related to quantum physics. Infinity, as a concept, means that there both is and is not a point at which you would give me the chocolate bar. Infinity is an all-encompassing word that, in this context at least, means that every point in time is a suitable moment for you to give me the bar, but also every moment is not suitable.
Hey buddy .. i study string theory ..and your logic with time matter and space are incredibly stupid. You have no idea how complicated these stuff are. Do you know time and space is an emergent property of the universe not a fundamental property? And the whole energy of the universe is zero ..the positive energy of mass gets canceled by negative gravitational energy.
I hate when people just pull scientific facts out of their ass!
See the thing is that he asked,"If I said I would give you a chocolate bar AFTER an infinite amount of time. Would you ever receive the chocolate bar? No." He mentioned nothing about DURING an infinite amount of time in which you could receive your chocolate bar.
You agree with scientists that "Matter (and energy) can neither be created nor destroyed," but for some odd reason, you DON'T agree with evolution??? That makes no sense, but neither does religion. LOL.
Why do people post ridiculous videos like this? We can conclude there is a God because six thousand years ago there was no time or matter. He's got us cornered now...Why didn't Einstein think of this? VFX exudes arrogance and must think very poorly of his audience.
Actually, scratch what I said about not understanding infinity; you've made a grammatical error merely. According to your own logic, giving me something after an infinity of time means you'll never give it to me. So... if the Universe started an infinity of time ago, that only means it was never created... which is what science demonstrates. I think you've come close to DISPROVING God. Thanks, I'll use that one!
You've made a little mistake with your physics which affects your conclusion radically:
Time is dependent on matter in so much as it is the other side of the coin from movement, i.e. no time = no movement.
I actually think that your discussion of infinity is faulted because humans are not built to understand infinity (I don't), however your argument fails because the Big Bang (if it happened) began movement and thus time. 'Before' that there was NO time, not an infinity of it.
That could be proof that there's might be A god but it might not necessarily be YOUR god or whosever god. Decent arguement tho nice to find some intellegance on the Internet for once.
there are houndreds of gods and goddesses, why is YOUR GOD the only one?
and don't tell me you know it because it is said in a fairytale book written 2000 years ago.
I deny the existence of a God or Goddess but I don't think the one you are talking about is the true one. You have no proof, again, the bible is man-made, every intelligent person knows it.
According to your own logic, god is under the same restrictions that matter is, therefore is "accountable" to his own creator and thusly, not god.
Your idea was makin' sense until about the 2 minute mark. Powerful, yes. Big bang; powerful. Intelligent? No, that's you just spinning words to suit your theory rather than thinking logically. Resources in the universe were not created to suit humans. Humans grew and evolved to suit our surrounding resources.
infact i beleive you God is the creator and to put it scientifacally something has to start it all if God doesnt exist then how are we here everyone says eveloution but eveloution also needs a creator i beleive the human race was evelouted but God created are eveloution , the put it Religously Our Lord Created us the wise men like this guy know that he exists and we must all pay respects to the Lord without question
No, we cant determinate anything. We create theories to explain everything, that may be founded on studies or... faith. This last one is limited to a belief, which is nothing but a belief that one claims to be true with no logical reason or explanation. The Christian beliefs are actually astrological references made by pre-christian "pagan" religions in which christianism was based (i.e. plagiarized).
This is not proof of God. You are having a philosophical line of thought as anyone can have. That is not proof. There is no way to prove or disprove God. If I claim to believe in Brahma there is no way for you to prove or disprove him. Just as you can quote your holy tests someone else can quote theirs. Creationism can only be acceptable in one part of the world, where Christianity is dominant. On the other side is can never even begin to arise.
OK, let's suppose that your theory is correct. Why would YOUR God be the creator? Again, if we suppose that there is a creator, it then becomes best guess at which religion and which god IS that creator. Furthermore, we then have to say that if the heaven and hell existed, hypothetically stipulating to the christian god's existence over every other god (with the same evidence currently possessed), then we should simply take damnation as a matter of CHANCE, instead of a preventable alternative.
i appreciate the logic you used up until you said, without logic, that what "it" was that created everything we had now had to have been intelligent. no one knows for sure what "it" was, and therefore there is no telling whether "it" was a something capable of thought and intelligence. "it" could have easily been an occurrence that progressed over billions of years until intelligence was formed. you do not have me cornered. im not an atheist because im afraid of being "accountable"
simple christian fundlementleist time is constant mater cant be created nor destroyed dumb ass they always been there. for 1 your useing science to prove your right but then you contredict yourself by doing so face the fact that your trying to use logic to defend something thats primitive like religion thats like smart barbarian in doesnt work its a oxy moron people need to stop wasting there time and move on would benefit society ive read your bible its a shity book and i use it to roll joints!
heres an idea, are your parents religious? do you think that every religious person in this world was born into it, or had no where else to turn? i think that the only reason we have religion is that people are born into it. how is it that we have been here for thousands of years, but havnt seen him once, not a word? its because he is nothing but a theory created by man
coming in... A lot of them think: If he leaves his faith, we win. But Jesus says to me: The real faith doesn´t need to defeat to others using social pression. By the way, your pronunciation english has improved. I still learning english, and you speak it very quickly.
VenomFangXP: It´s not necessary to prove the existence of God; the mankind knows God exists, their own hearts say to themselves that God exists. The existence of God only must be evidenced. You are an evidence as well. When you try to prove the God existence, you risk seeming doubtful. In my country the majority says we are Roman Catholic, and I bear a social pression every day. A lot of them think: If he leaves his faith, we win. A lot of them think: If he leaves his faith, we win...
Your argument is that god created the world for us "created all the elements that we need to sustain life"...but what if we simply adapted to this world's elements through evolution.
As far as being held accountable to the creator... When do we hold him accountable for the atrocities that have been caused because of him (or the lack of him). If God is real, why is he so quiet? Why does he leave the world in doubt about who he is? A book proves nothing.
@VenomFangXP Right, well he's God. And if he wanted to reunite us, he could have done that in an instant. Instead he chose...this? This world of war, poverty, and death.
I know you'll say it's because of Eve's original sin, of eating from the tree of knowledge of good and evil. But if god is omnipresent, omnipotent, and untouchable, then he would have known all this would happen. Ergo, god wanted us to suffer.
@Locksheon The bible says "THE WAGES OF SIN IS DEATH!" God is a judge. He can do it in an instant but that will make God looks like a useless JUDGE. All Lawlessness will have punishment, otherwise what society would we live in?
God gave mankind FREEWILL to Obey Him, God will not Hipnotized men to Obey Him.
THE WAGES OF SIN IS DEATH, BUT THE GIFT OF GOD IS ETERNAL LIFE THROUGH JESUS CHRIST.
The question is, WOULD YOU ACCEPT GOD'S GIFT AND COME TO REPENTANCE?
@Locksheon It was not Eve's sin, God never told Eve not to eat the fruit of the tree of knowledge of good and evil. God told Adam not to eat of the tree. When Adam ate of the tree he had sinned. It was his job to tell Eve that she should not have eaten of the tree, if he had we would still be with God. God does not want us to follow him because we have to, he wants us to follow him because we want to. Do you want your friends to like you because they have to, or becuase they want to?
The Fall 1 Now the serpent was more crafty than any of the wild animals the LORD God had made. He said to the woman, “Did God really say, ‘You must not eat from any tree in the garden’?” 2 The woman said to the serpent, “We may eat fruit from the trees in the garden, 3 but God did say, ‘You must not eat fruit from the tree that is in the middle of the garden, and you must not touch it, or you will die.’”
@Locksheon I never said that Eve did not know, I said God never told her directly, and even still Adam was the head of their household(or whatever they lived in), if he were to tell her "No" then we would still be with God, but he partook of the tree when she handed him the fruit and that is when the separation happened.
@trumpetmen259 Just b/c you read it in a book doesn't make it true.
For instance, A child asks "Mommy, why do people speak diffferent languages?"
Mom, lacking understanding, weaves a story of how human pride was punished by God, and he changed all languages from a common tongue.
In reality, people who do not share the same reference points will form different methods of doing...ANYTHING. A german man and I both recieve a never before seen item. Am I to expect we'll call it the same thing?
@Locksheon I admire your conviction, but I am far from convinced. I used to be a christian, until I realized that there is no punishment for "sin" other than what we make. We were asked to just lay down and be trampled on with no reprecussions for those who trample us. I will not spend my life on my back for others to use and abuse.
Riddle me this: We are god's chosen, over angels even! Who was GIVEN paradise freely, and who has to work/die for it? Who does he love more?
Your logic is quite reasonable. I have to somewhat agree with your statements. If it if there isn't a god. I don't really know but we all should respect the fact that somehow were here, alive, today. -jon Buckingham
time is not real, did you study that? Time is a lie created by you, me, and everyone else. its as real as that paper(money) you put in the basket every Sunday.
people who dont believe in god god are fools?in the bible Adam and eve "sinned" by eating from the tree of KNOWLEDGE, the bible rewards stupidity. and have you ever noticed a pattern? that all these internationally known scientist who have iQ's of like a million are atheist? hmmmmm... nope you'll just keep spouting the senseless dribble
And yes, I'm aware that this account may be a troll account, mirroring VenomFangX's videos, but if that's the case, then the same comment applies to anyone who agrees with this video. If you're wrong about the religion you choose, based upon any argument like this, then you're probably going to toast in a hell of sorts, for all of eternity. Enjoy worrying for the rest of your life, while I relax, playing a nice game of Team Fortress 2.
You didn't prove that God was real, you just thought that you proven something by attempting to relate to the average Atheist's beliefs and then say that if nothing existed, but then something complex suddenly appeared then a God must have created it. Where's the proof that God is real? Where's the proof that evolution is wrong? More importantly, where is the proof that YOUR God is real? For all you know, another religion could be right. Stop with the logical fallacies and make a real rant.
Thanks for using a strawman, rather than proving that your God is correct and that all other Gods are ficticious. You've just proven to me, without a doubt, that you're either the stupidest Christian to ever exist, or a fairly successful troll. I was born a Christian and the religion was forced upon me, yet I never believed and I will never believe. Your badly thought out rants aren't going to change that. I'd rather be indecisive about my religion than waste my life believing.
@VenomFangXP You suck at replying. Really suck at replying. If you reply to this it will just be a thing about god. But you fail to realize we are arguing about the EXISTANCE of god. Not God.
@VenomFangXP lol a reasonable commented posted against you, and you put a bible verse. god would have to be real for that verse to be even somewhat relevant.
@VenomFangXP How is that relevant exactly? Also, no, it doesn't have to be extremely intelligent. I'm not saying that we happened to be perfectly suited for this Earth to survive, instead I'm saying that the Earth was created of millions of years, and life adapted through evolution (i.e. survival of the fittest) to suit it. And if you say "How is it that the life managed to live on long enough to adapt" well, it could be that millions of species were there, and some just didn't make it.
@Kozoi I think the point he is trying to make is that there is beyond a reasonable doubt that there is a creator. It's like the cosmological argument i think is what he's getting at.
Yes, I was aware that it was a pretentious version of the Cosmological / Watch Maker's argument. I like how the original poster still hasn't proven to me that it's his God, or even a theistic God for that matter. If he's chosen the wrong God then he's just as hell bound as the rest of us, so I'm sure that if a God exists then there's a good chance that we'll see Venom Fang roasting in the nearest fire pit.
because he says, that just like an ape is our ancestor, and it cannot possibly comprehend a VCR for example, Nietzsche claims that eventually as we evolve so will our intellect's ability to understand things like infinity, and the universe, etc.
THANK YOU, yes I can see that you read aristotle, because basically you just explained his famous 3 axioms. I myself am a believer in God, but actually there have been arguments against what you said, and I would like to hear your opinion on them, Nietzsche talks about the evolution into a "superman". Which is a being that can comprehend far more than we humans can, Nietzsche says, that this being (the superman) will be able to comprehend things we cant, for example the concept of infinity.
LOL @ "i gotcha cornered" God is supposed to be perfect. If something is perfect, it is complete--it needs nothing else. We humans engage in activities because we are pursuing that elusive perfection, because there is disequilibrium caused by a difference between what we are and what we want to be. If God is perfect, there can be no disequilibrium. There is nothing he needs, nothing he desires, and nothing he must or will do. - Chad
@blackblackgrey God is ETERNAL, He never Begin He never End.
God created Time and space.
Time Dependent on God, But God do not dependent to time. Time can be ended depends on when God will cut it short.
Anyway, you are free to believe there is no God or there is God before the RAPTURE occur. If it doesn't occur I can't convince you there is a God, but if it does occur, you have no other choice but to believe the existence of God. who knows you;ll die before the rapture occurs.
Why do the rules that apply to everything else not apply to god?
If god needs no creator, why does the universe need a creator?
You say the earth is so beutiful and complicated to require, to NEED a designer, if god is so wise and immensily powerful why does HE not need a creator?
I want to belive in god. When a man goes through a peaceful english village near me and starts shooting people dead, I want to say "its ok, its part of gods plan." let me.
@blackblackgrey God is the Source of anything that exist in this Entire Universe, cosmos,space or any existence. Period. It's Just they way it is.
Have you read the Bible Honestly. God created The world PERFECT, FLAWLESS, no BLEMISH in the first place Until SIN came to the World. Yes God already see the Future. But Love is FREEWILL, and God gave Freewill to mankind.
On top of that, God says, "MY WILL BE DONE."
sinful mankind can't justify a HOLY God. Humble ourselves to God firt.
I'm sorry, but call me self centered, I prefere my own belifes and reasons for those belifes to christianity, if that is what christianity is. Maybe one day a priest will change that mindset, maybe one day a glorious event will change that mindset. You are indisputibly right about one thing- I shan't belive in god until rapture, until he is proven real.
@VenomFangXP you didnt even answer @blackblackgrey's answer you dumbass. your 'theories' or whatever you call those flawed, half-finished thoughts made me cringe. this is a honest question(its easy so even you might understand)
If the world's so PERFECT and god made everything FLAWLESS, Why do we take shits?!?!
SERIOUSLY WHATS THE POINT? did god want me to think of him as i got rid of my waste? wtf?! not to mention the million other things that are still wrong that nature is still perfecting
@blackblackgrey I would also like to say, That if God exists and he "created" all the natural universe where we ourselves exist, then that God is certianly above and beyond all of this natural universe, making him "supernatural" beyond creation itself as we know it, nor can we begin to try to explain or understand such a "supernatural" God in our own finite words, ideas and knowledge
@blackblackgrey I would also like to say, That if God exists and he "created" all the natural universe where we ourselves exist, then that God is certianly above and beyond all of this natural universe, making him "supernatural" beyond creation itself as we know it, nor can we begin to try to explain or understand such a "supernatural" God in our own finite words, ideas and knowledge
Yeah thats great, but WHY? Why would god be supernatural, and us not? What makes him special? Planets and stars are HERE, I can SEE them. God I cannot see, and I personally cannot feel. Why SHOULD planets need creating by something I cannot see or feel, when this all powerful thing does not? It makes no sense to simply say "oh, hes supernatural, needs no creator."
@blackblackgrey I would also like to say, That if God exists and he "created" all the natural universe where we ourselves exist, then that God is certianly above and beyond all of this natural universe, making him "supernatural" beyond creation itself as we know it, nor can we begin to try to explain or understand such a "supernatural" God in our own finite words, ideas and knowledge.
@blackblackgrey I would also like to say... When we talk of "Creation" we speak of natural things like planets, stars and life itself being created in a natural universe, if God exists, he would certainly not be natural but "supernatural" beyond nature and "creation" itself as we understand it.
@blackblackgrey OK. God is. That's the only thing I can say. He is alfa and omega, and he has ALLWAYS existed. Someone who has allways existed cannot be created.
I did not ask, tell me that god is real so I can sit back down in my chair and agree, I said give me a REASON to belive in him. Not that he is alPHa and omega.
Why do we need a god? Tell me that! If all it takes to be a god is that you always existed, why couldn't it be the first, tiny little organisem that always existed? why can't we cut out this opressive, greedy middle man? The only reason is the greed of the church.
@VenomFangXP 2.You say "It's either EVERYTHING came from NOTHING, or SOMETHING that always existed created EVERYTHING." Something cannot make itself from nothing,plain and simple.and how can something exist when time hasn't begun?You say that matter can't exist until time begins,so now I've cornered you.
@VenomFangXP 2.You say "It's either EVERYTHING came from NOTHING, or SOMETHING that always existed created EVERYTHING." Something cannot make itself from nothing,plain and simple.and how can something exist when time hasn't begun since you say that matter doesn't exist without time.
@VenomFangXP Just some questions for you.(NOT Atheist BTW.)
1.If the bible says that Adam and Eve started the human race,wouldn't their children's children be retarded(I'm not scared to say retarded.), then so on and so on, so the world would be filled with retards until the human race ended?
2.You say "It's either EVERYTHING came from NOTHING, or SOMETHING that always existed created EVERYTHING." Something cannot make itself from nothing,plain and simple.and how can something exist when tim
He's right, it pisses me off how everyone tries to do everything by logic, and they think they're so smart just because they estimate everything, just quit being an atheist and name your god.
I think the best part of this video is that he anticipates a lot of negative comments like "You're an idiot". Then I scroll down, and that's all I see.
There's no point getting mad at the guy. If you're so grounded in your own beliefs, why lash out at him? If what you think is real, his existence makes no difference. If what believes is real, maybe you do have a creator to answer to?
this was so smart im ready to change everybody lets go to church guys what created matter what created time nothing it just appeared it wasn't infinite and but even though infinity is non existent god is infinite this makes so much since no wonder only dumb people are atheist like Thomas Jefferson Albert Einstein and Richard Dawkins
@metalrocker853 WHAT DOES GOD HAS TO SAY ABOUT SCIENTISTS, ATHEISTS AND EVOLUTIONIST?
Proverbs 1:7 The Fear of the LORD is the foundation of true knowledge, but fools despise wisdom and discipline.
Romans 1:22 Claiming to be wise, they instead became utter fools.
All of Scientists will DIE eventually and God Will be the judge and God will always have the last checkmate. Those smart Scientists only as smart as their lifespan. Once they died, God will judge.
so your trying to disprove my argument with words from a book that i've read that is very inconsistent and i don't believe in thats like me saying i hate superman and you say well dc comics says superman is awesome so you should believe that do you know how much is missing from your bible the dead sea scrolls are proof of that how many more missing books are their how many were taken out so how can you try and disprove me with an incomplete book
Time is not linear, nor does it actually exist. We only think it does because we see everything as a "beginning" or "end". Matter however does exist, can't argue with that. "BUT MR ATHEIST, GOD CREATED MATTER AM I RIGHT?" You just said yourself matter cannot be created, not can it be destroyed.
Put the most intense godly or whatever force on a single atom of hydrogen. Can that destroy it? No, it is a basic component of matter. "BUT MR ATHEIST, GOD CAN DO ANYTHING." Oh, go fuck a cat.
You are a fool because, although it is considered that before the Big Bang there was no time, that's just a label, there was energy before the Big Bang (energy can't be destroyed nor created, not even God can), how the fuck would such an explosion occur out of "nothing"????
now matter creates out of energy (in a very basic level of understanding)
Go stone an adulterous women as your holy book says so!! XD
What is time before light existed in our universe? You obviously can't measure time before light, hence lightyears measure how we know approximately when the big bang occurred. Wow, accountability to a creator? Be more pompous and ill-informed. In another of your videos you "prove islam wrong"? I really hope you are kidding. How can you be so credulous about a creator god and in the same breath be so sure that YOURS is the only correct one? You amaze me with your stupidity
What is time before light existed in our universe? You obviously can't measure time before light, hence lightyears measure how we know approximately when the big bang occurred. Wow, accountability to a creator? Be more pompous and ill-informed. In another of your videos you "prove islam wrong"? I really hope you are kidding. How can you be so credulous about a creator god and in the same breath be so sure that YOURS is the only correct one? You amaze me with your stupidity
What is time before light existed in our universe? You obviously can't measure time before light, hence lightyears measure how we know approximately when the big bang occurred. Wow, accountability to a creator? Be more pompous and ill-informed. In another of your videos you "prove islam wrong"? I really hope you are kidding. How can you be so credulous about a creator god and in the same breath be so sure that YOURS is the only correct one? You amaze me with your stupidity.
that was actually good bro, God bless :) Hehe U know what I think is the best way to get through to a person? Through God :), God is love, 1 John 4, and it says that How do we see God? 1 John 4: 7 Dear friends, let us love one another, for love comes from God. Everyone who loves has been born of God and knows God. 8Whoever does not love does not know God, because God is love..
Who in their right mind would want to turn around when their beign told their wrong,
But if you instead of Telling them they are wrong and That they are going the wrong direction say blah blah, If we do it the way Jesus Christ would it would be so much DIfferent and easier, If you were to instead of show or tell some1 at all that their wrong, But Infact not tell them their going the wrong way, But Show them THE RIGHT way, its a lot different, but good stuff God bless bro
I could get behind what you were saying right up until the "extremely intelligent" part. That's completely flawed and our current world could exist without whatever force that created all matter even being self aware. Otherwise, this was an interesting video.
wait... wait... wait... so you are saying that the universe couldn't have existed for an infinite amount of time, but god (for some reason or another.) could have been there for an infinite amount of time. yeah right...
Holy shit you're a fucking dumbass. By using inaccurate scientifc principles, completely flawed logical premises and wild assumptions all you've managed to do is make yourself look like the rampaging dingleberry so many on YT know you for. You know, I've seen your name tossed about in various threads but to actually experience the magnitude of your stupidity first hand is incredibly humbling. Please keep making videos as I need the laughs. Thanks!
i thought venomfang's nonsense died when he left youtube, nice to see another plague to reason has appeared to continue his poisonous work. congratulations
we use time as a measurement for our trivial human pursuits, its not some cosmic alignment spun into action by any entity. you'd say that god made time and it is perfect... but don't forget that little quarter of a day we only account for every four years ;P the concept of infinity is beyond your silly little comprehension so don't try to debate over things in which you have no knowledge of.
Is it me or do I remember seeing this video ages ago? Why post it again? lol... Didn't you get in enough trouble last time? Good luck with your life fellow human being.
Talking about life: make sure you enjoy it while it lasts. Because when you die, its over. You will decay and you will return to where you came from. Think of it this way: What did it feel like before you were born? That's what you will feel after death. Sad but true story.
THANKS FOR BEING OBEDIENT N MAKING THS VIDEO IM SURE IT HELPED SOMEONE OUT OF THE 667 BUT WE JUS GOTA PRA FOR THOSE THAT BELIEVE N MAKE SRE THAT WERE READY FOR JESUS RETURN! CUS EVERY KNEE WILL BOW N TONGUE WILL CONFESS WHETEHER WE BELIEVE OR NOT. GOD IS AMAZING N HE NEVA CHANGES!!! AMEN I LIKE WA U AI E DNT BELIEVE CUS E DNT WANT ACCOUNTABILITY WE WANA STAY IN OUR SIN BT THATS OKAY CUZ GOD STILL LOVES US N E ACCEPTS US HOW WE ARE BT LOVES US TOO MUCH TO LEVE US DAT WAY
Even if you was actually right, why do your claims in this video lead you to Christianity? Why not believe that Thor, Woden or the Flying Spaghetti Monster was the magical creator?
I've heard this age old argument a million times before (and yes, it's been debunked), and nobody ever seems to address the question of why does your opinion that this can't have all been here forever (when yes, it could) lead you to believe in an Adam-creating, prayer-listening, sin-forgiving God from the Bible?
ok one time is an illusion. it isn't real, it is here to tell us when the Sun goes up and down. there is also no proof that matter didn't exist before the big bang. also if matter didn't exist is doesn't matter. gases existed, and put nitrogen and oxygen together you got the basic blue print for life. now enter more gases which cause the creation of cells, which later lead to the creation of life which leads to the evolution which leads to man
6 thousand years ago? What are you talking about? There are records of humanity existing 10000 years ago! And there are proof that humanity existed before that too. What about the dinosaurs? What about the big bang? Have you explained that?
hake174 4 months ago
Why can't we agree that God is real, created the universe, and decides we should decide how to act without intervening. It fits everything but the bible's narration of history.
Only that the bible was written by men. Gossip and Rewriting distorts things, even unwillingly.
Lexadrik 6 months ago
what a doooooosh
TheLongestMile 7 months ago
Your argument just begs the question, if nothing is infinite, then where did God come from?
slipperywhenwet5 7 months ago
@slipperywhenwet5 Please make no mistake between Infinite and Eternal.
God is Eternal, but the Universe is Infinite.
Eternal means "Never begin and Will never end" God has always been existed
Infinite means "Once Begin and will never end"
VenomFangXP 7 months ago
@VenomFangXP god is eternal? in my toilet.
c0mpiled 7 months ago
@VenomFangXP Wait wait wait wait ...wait...
You agree with this nut, and are not showing his old videos for the purpose of ridicule and mockery?
Carbide195 5 months ago
If gravity is a billionth stronger/weaker the universe wouldn't operate as efficiently, same with the expansion of the universe, which makes the plausibility of a creator and fine tuner probable if this is the only universe.
I believe time and space is infinite and that there are infinite universes out there, as infinity does exist and we just can't comprehend it and I believe we are living in 1 of very few probable universes which can efficiently operate by chance. As for god, we don't know
oasisfan2005 8 months ago
your ignorance makes me wanna slit my throat.
WannaBeLoris 9 months ago
No offense man, but this isn't "proof", this is stating what you believe. A more appropriate title for this would be "Why I believe God exists". And don't get me wrong, I'm in no way trying to denigrate you for your beliefs, if that's what you believe, more power to you. But there was no definitive proof or evidence in what you said.
snoogins231 9 months ago
there is proof that the earth has existed billions of years before human kind. what do you say about dinosaurs?
ignoring science is easy. but let me ask you this: if the bible is right about anything,than why are there so many mistakes in it? and why didnt god put the most important rule of mankind to his 10 commendments: "every human being is equal"
why didnt he do that? he would have saved billions of lifes! that seems much more important to me than "dont fuck other bitches than your wife!"
DrivinMeWild09 10 months ago 4
@DrivinMeWild09
Anyone can be a critic.
jmann114 8 months ago
@jmann114 wow, great answer... i guess this is your last resort if an atheist powns you. anyone can be a brainless follower as well. anyone can be dumb. anyone can ignore science.
go and pray to santa claus for forgivness for me please. thx. or to the flying spaghetti monster. whatever
DrivinMeWild09 8 months ago
@DrivinMeWild09
May God bless you.
jmann114 8 months ago
@DrivinMeWild09
May God bless you.
jmann114 8 months ago
@jmann114 gesundheit!
you think you are being forgiving and wise now, huh?
DrivinMeWild09 8 months ago
@DrivinMeWild09
No. Don't make assumptions.
jmann114 8 months ago
humans created time. there was no time before we made it up
aceofspades57 10 months ago
You proved absolutely nothing in fact I think you proved that god is more to an extent of just a flymsical fancy, basically you said earth was created 6,000 years ago, yet there is definitive proof that is not true.
NexusARC 10 months ago
Time cannot start because for time to start that would mean there would be a period before time. Thats not possible because that is still dealing with time, there would have to be a time before time. Its nonsense. And to say a God created time and was before the existence of time is just assinine. You would have to say God existed as soon as time began. God couldnt have existed before time because there was no before, now, or after, so he couldnt take any action that would have had an effect.
thes54 10 months ago
All this video relates is the God of the Gaps. It is no proof at all, simply an apeal to ignorance. I am a Christian by the way. God does not need proof, faith is what counts.
ASerousWorld 10 months ago
Let me tell you why your a fucking imbecile say there was no water then we would have evolved to no longer need to drink so your idea that it was made that way is fucking stupid I got you in a corner go ahead and reply but remember your stupid
xeivrom 10 months ago
I believe the Earth was created 10,000 years ago by the flying spaghetti monster who just makes things seem older than they really are.
sutjas16 10 months ago
Saying that the universe is proof of God existing is like saying a puddle is proof of God. If you were the puddle and say "The ground has conversed in such a way that I am perfectly shaped and the water gathered here. An intelligent being must have created me," because the rain, or God, still comes down, and if the ground hadn't conversed in such a way, there will be another area where the ground has conversed, therefor causing another puddle!
wtfomgstudios 11 months ago
powerful? lots of energy? What is the energy value of the universe?
Mekiwyn 11 months ago
I think, rather, the answer to your first question relating to whether or not you would give me said chocolate bar is "yes and no". Not to get too off topic, it's closely related to quantum physics. Infinity, as a concept, means that there both is and is not a point at which you would give me the chocolate bar. Infinity is an all-encompassing word that, in this context at least, means that every point in time is a suitable moment for you to give me the bar, but also every moment is not suitable.
Vix847 11 months ago
Hey buddy .. i study string theory ..and your logic with time matter and space are incredibly stupid. You have no idea how complicated these stuff are. Do you know time and space is an emergent property of the universe not a fundamental property? And the whole energy of the universe is zero ..the positive energy of mass gets canceled by negative gravitational energy.
I hate when people just pull scientific facts out of their ass!
astoma199 11 months ago 10
@astoma199 TBH I hate it when people pull things out of their ass in general.
Carbide195 5 months ago
@Carbide195 this side doesnt talk out of its ass like you .. read this you moron. necsi.org/events/iccs7/papers/75ChevalierPhysical.pdf
Next time use your brain before opening your big stupid mouth..
astoma199 5 months ago
@astoma199 Right back at you mate, did I ever say that I disagreed with you?
Carbide195 5 months ago
buddy I have one word for you
dinosaur
figure that shit out. Peace
vietbuhletz 11 months ago
Read a book on the big bang. It will explain everything to you. And while your at it, read a book on abiogenesis and evolution.
Now that you have a basic understanding of these subjects, maybe you can understand that anything and everything can exist without a god.
Ryan1468 1 year ago
Okey, I'll bite. Let's say (just for the sake of argument) that God created the universe. The next question you must answer is, what created God?
fokkhead 1 year ago
Pretty sure I heard you fart at 2:28
Skullfuckord 1 year ago
See the thing is that he asked,"If I said I would give you a chocolate bar AFTER an infinite amount of time. Would you ever receive the chocolate bar? No." He mentioned nothing about DURING an infinite amount of time in which you could receive your chocolate bar.
Wheelyboarder 1 year ago
You agree with scientists that "Matter (and energy) can neither be created nor destroyed," but for some odd reason, you DON'T agree with evolution??? That makes no sense, but neither does religion. LOL.
evelsteev 1 year ago
you just proved that you were agnostic if you cant name what god is then youre not a christian but you are agnostic.
TheSpazlad 1 year ago
What is god made of Matter because everything is. Also where and when do you put god time and space you lose VFXP
Uptastuff 1 year ago
WE HAVE NO TIME FOR YOUR CRIPPLED CHRIST - GWAR
arrghnousernames 1 year ago
@arrghnousernames and yet you still have time for watching my vid and commenting on it. Thank you. I'm honored.
VenomFangXP 1 year ago
lol chocolate and time have things to do with eachother and monkeys are gonna come flying out of my ass
arrghnousernames 1 year ago
Why do people post ridiculous videos like this? We can conclude there is a God because six thousand years ago there was no time or matter. He's got us cornered now...Why didn't Einstein think of this? VFX exudes arrogance and must think very poorly of his audience.
brucegrenehan1 1 year ago
Actually, scratch what I said about not understanding infinity; you've made a grammatical error merely. According to your own logic, giving me something after an infinity of time means you'll never give it to me. So... if the Universe started an infinity of time ago, that only means it was never created... which is what science demonstrates. I think you've come close to DISPROVING God. Thanks, I'll use that one!
nfurnival 1 year ago
You've made a little mistake with your physics which affects your conclusion radically:
Time is dependent on matter in so much as it is the other side of the coin from movement, i.e. no time = no movement.
I actually think that your discussion of infinity is faulted because humans are not built to understand infinity (I don't), however your argument fails because the Big Bang (if it happened) began movement and thus time. 'Before' that there was NO time, not an infinity of it.
nfurnival 1 year ago
That could be proof that there's might be A god but it might not necessarily be YOUR god or whosever god. Decent arguement tho nice to find some intellegance on the Internet for once.
animeandgamereviews 1 year ago
6000 years Bhwaaahahahahahahahahahahaaaa haaaa OMG I Can't breathe....Bwhahahahahahahaaaaahahaaaa : D
Vincent229 1 year ago
there are houndreds of gods and goddesses, why is YOUR GOD the only one?
and don't tell me you know it because it is said in a fairytale book written 2000 years ago.
I deny the existence of a God or Goddess but I don't think the one you are talking about is the true one. You have no proof, again, the bible is man-made, every intelligent person knows it.
Aerithandwilus 1 year ago
According to your own logic, god is under the same restrictions that matter is, therefore is "accountable" to his own creator and thusly, not god.
Your idea was makin' sense until about the 2 minute mark. Powerful, yes. Big bang; powerful. Intelligent? No, that's you just spinning words to suit your theory rather than thinking logically. Resources in the universe were not created to suit humans. Humans grew and evolved to suit our surrounding resources.
Yesterteller 1 year ago
There is only one God. My pennis.
neonmix89 1 year ago
infact i beleive you God is the creator and to put it scientifacally something has to start it all if God doesnt exist then how are we here everyone says eveloution but eveloution also needs a creator i beleive the human race was evelouted but God created are eveloution , the put it Religously Our Lord Created us the wise men like this guy know that he exists and we must all pay respects to the Lord without question
Otobob 1 year ago
No, we cant determinate anything. We create theories to explain everything, that may be founded on studies or... faith. This last one is limited to a belief, which is nothing but a belief that one claims to be true with no logical reason or explanation. The Christian beliefs are actually astrological references made by pre-christian "pagan" religions in which christianism was based (i.e. plagiarized).
joaoftl 1 year ago
This is not proof of God. You are having a philosophical line of thought as anyone can have. That is not proof. There is no way to prove or disprove God. If I claim to believe in Brahma there is no way for you to prove or disprove him. Just as you can quote your holy tests someone else can quote theirs. Creationism can only be acceptable in one part of the world, where Christianity is dominant. On the other side is can never even begin to arise.
AmarD87 1 year ago
what proof?
porchi88 1 year ago
One great big textbook argument from Ignorance.
YetAnthony 1 year ago
OK, let's suppose that your theory is correct. Why would YOUR God be the creator? Again, if we suppose that there is a creator, it then becomes best guess at which religion and which god IS that creator. Furthermore, we then have to say that if the heaven and hell existed, hypothetically stipulating to the christian god's existence over every other god (with the same evidence currently possessed), then we should simply take damnation as a matter of CHANCE, instead of a preventable alternative.
1987Yaoi 1 year ago
i appreciate the logic you used up until you said, without logic, that what "it" was that created everything we had now had to have been intelligent. no one knows for sure what "it" was, and therefore there is no telling whether "it" was a something capable of thought and intelligence. "it" could have easily been an occurrence that progressed over billions of years until intelligence was formed. you do not have me cornered. im not an atheist because im afraid of being "accountable"
dumbblonde99775 1 year ago
simple christian fundlementleist time is constant mater cant be created nor destroyed dumb ass they always been there. for 1 your useing science to prove your right but then you contredict yourself by doing so face the fact that your trying to use logic to defend something thats primitive like religion thats like smart barbarian in doesnt work its a oxy moron people need to stop wasting there time and move on would benefit society ive read your bible its a shity book and i use it to roll joints!
CaptainPeenNoPants 1 year ago
heres an idea, are your parents religious? do you think that every religious person in this world was born into it, or had no where else to turn? i think that the only reason we have religion is that people are born into it. how is it that we have been here for thousands of years, but havnt seen him once, not a word? its because he is nothing but a theory created by man
omglmaololjk 1 year ago
coming in... A lot of them think: If he leaves his faith, we win. But Jesus says to me: The real faith doesn´t need to defeat to others using social pression. By the way, your pronunciation english has improved. I still learning english, and you speak it very quickly.
Leivinn20 1 year ago
VenomFangXP: It´s not necessary to prove the existence of God; the mankind knows God exists, their own hearts say to themselves that God exists. The existence of God only must be evidenced. You are an evidence as well. When you try to prove the God existence, you risk seeming doubtful. In my country the majority says we are Roman Catholic, and I bear a social pression every day. A lot of them think: If he leaves his faith, we win. A lot of them think: If he leaves his faith, we win...
Leivinn20 1 year ago
you and every fucked-in-the-head religious fanatic should be put on a desolate island and mustard-gassed.
killa420herb 1 year ago
@killa420herb indeed great coment
CaptainPeenNoPants 1 year ago
Your argument is that god created the world for us "created all the elements that we need to sustain life"...but what if we simply adapted to this world's elements through evolution.
As far as being held accountable to the creator... When do we hold him accountable for the atrocities that have been caused because of him (or the lack of him). If God is real, why is he so quiet? Why does he leave the world in doubt about who he is? A book proves nothing.
Locksheon 1 year ago 2
@Locksheon This question of yours is TOO COMMON in debate and have been answers so many times.
SIN is the answers. IN THE BEGINNING God created everything PERFECT, FLAWLESS, until "SIN" SEPARATED Man and God......
But Got Promise To REUNITE with His creation again, By SACRIFICING Himself on the Cross for the REMINISCING of SIN.
AND HE DID!!!!!
The question now goes to YOU....WOULD YOU LIKE TO RECEIVE JESUS CHRIST AS YOUR SAVIOR?
VenomFangXP 1 year ago
@VenomFangXP Right, well he's God. And if he wanted to reunite us, he could have done that in an instant. Instead he chose...this? This world of war, poverty, and death.
I know you'll say it's because of Eve's original sin, of eating from the tree of knowledge of good and evil. But if god is omnipresent, omnipotent, and untouchable, then he would have known all this would happen. Ergo, god wanted us to suffer.
Locksheon 1 year ago
@Locksheon The bible says "THE WAGES OF SIN IS DEATH!" God is a judge. He can do it in an instant but that will make God looks like a useless JUDGE. All Lawlessness will have punishment, otherwise what society would we live in?
God gave mankind FREEWILL to Obey Him, God will not Hipnotized men to Obey Him.
THE WAGES OF SIN IS DEATH, BUT THE GIFT OF GOD IS ETERNAL LIFE THROUGH JESUS CHRIST.
The question is, WOULD YOU ACCEPT GOD'S GIFT AND COME TO REPENTANCE?
VenomFangXP 1 year ago
@VenomFangXP So a Cristian person who dies have to spend an eternity within Jesus's head? SIGN ME UP .. xD haha
Dakkosa 1 year ago
@Locksheon It was not Eve's sin, God never told Eve not to eat the fruit of the tree of knowledge of good and evil. God told Adam not to eat of the tree. When Adam ate of the tree he had sinned. It was his job to tell Eve that she should not have eaten of the tree, if he had we would still be with God. God does not want us to follow him because we have to, he wants us to follow him because we want to. Do you want your friends to like you because they have to, or becuase they want to?
trumpetmen259 1 year ago
@trumpetmen259 "because we WANT to?" Then why the hell did he kill all those people in the bible??? LOL.
If someone doesn't do what they tell you, just go ahead and kill them. GREAT idea. LOL!!!
evelsteev 1 year ago
@evelsteev God has never killed anyone. If you push him away he can not pretect you, and once his protection is gone the devil comes in for the kill.
trumpetmen259 1 year ago
@trumpetmen259 "God never killed anyone?" Bullshit, in Deuteronomy 32:39 says "See now that I, even I, am he, and there is no god with me: I kill.."
If God is so "good" then he shouldn't let the devil kill anyone. How stupid this all this.
evelsteev 1 year ago
@trumpetmen259 Genesis 3
The Fall 1 Now the serpent was more crafty than any of the wild animals the LORD God had made. He said to the woman, “Did God really say, ‘You must not eat from any tree in the garden’?” 2 The woman said to the serpent, “We may eat fruit from the trees in the garden, 3 but God did say, ‘You must not eat fruit from the tree that is in the middle of the garden, and you must not touch it, or you will die.’”
Clearly she knew.
Locksheon 1 year ago
@Locksheon I never said that Eve did not know, I said God never told her directly, and even still Adam was the head of their household(or whatever they lived in), if he were to tell her "No" then we would still be with God, but he partook of the tree when she handed him the fruit and that is when the separation happened.
trumpetmen259 1 year ago
@trumpetmen259 Just b/c you read it in a book doesn't make it true.
For instance, A child asks "Mommy, why do people speak diffferent languages?"
Mom, lacking understanding, weaves a story of how human pride was punished by God, and he changed all languages from a common tongue.
In reality, people who do not share the same reference points will form different methods of doing...ANYTHING. A german man and I both recieve a never before seen item. Am I to expect we'll call it the same thing?
Locksheon 1 year ago
@Locksheon I admire your conviction, but I am far from convinced. I used to be a christian, until I realized that there is no punishment for "sin" other than what we make. We were asked to just lay down and be trampled on with no reprecussions for those who trample us. I will not spend my life on my back for others to use and abuse.
Riddle me this: We are god's chosen, over angels even! Who was GIVEN paradise freely, and who has to work/die for it? Who does he love more?
Locksheon 1 year ago
Like seriously dude the second coming happened in the eighties in the form of Mr. T. I
monkeysoupman 1 year ago
your fucking stupid. end of discussion.
aarchas 1 year ago
My channel contains the truth, you imbecile.
frohman101 1 year ago
I don't see how this is related to the video this is an answer to.
Anarchy17SB 1 year ago
Your logic is quite reasonable. I have to somewhat agree with your statements. If it if there isn't a god. I don't really know but we all should respect the fact that somehow were here, alive, today. -jon Buckingham
buckylovesit1 1 year ago
Lol and it would be funny to have this guy argue with steven Hawkins
or however you spell that
Franchan10 1 year ago
@Franchan10 Richard Dawkins dear...
VenomFangXP 1 year ago
@VenomFangXP
ah
stephen hawking
thats it (he is insanely smart and he just released a book that said god doesnt exist or somewhere along those lines)
lol.
Franchan10 1 year ago 8
@Franchan10
Romans 1:22 Claiming to be wise, they instead became utter fools
VenomFangXP 1 year ago
@VenomFangXP
whats with the insult?
I never said offensive did I?
I am being raised Catholic right now and lashing out randomly with bible passages doesn't exactly make you appealing to athiests.
('Im not by the way)
>.<
Franchan10 1 year ago
@Franchan10 For the foolishness of God is wiser than human wisdom and the weakness of God is stronger than human strength. 1st Cor chapter 1 verse 25
willthethrill9 1 year ago
believing god doesnt mean you are catholic
seriously people?
Franchan10 1 year ago
time is not real, did you study that? Time is a lie created by you, me, and everyone else. its as real as that paper(money) you put in the basket every Sunday.
budahben1 1 year ago 2
people who dont believe in god god are fools?in the bible Adam and eve "sinned" by eating from the tree of KNOWLEDGE, the bible rewards stupidity. and have you ever noticed a pattern? that all these internationally known scientist who have iQ's of like a million are atheist? hmmmmm... nope you'll just keep spouting the senseless dribble
lucariololol 1 year ago
@lucariololol Proverbs 1:7 The Fear of the LORD is the foundation of true knowledge, but fools despise wisdom and discipline.
Romans 1:22 Claiming to be wise, they instead became utter fools.
VenomFangXP 1 year ago
@VenomFangXP that is not an argument
lucariololol 1 year ago
@VenomFangXP You realize that Hebrew has no capital letters, capitalizing "LORD" does nothing to prove your point.
MegaDeath409 1 year ago
Quoting a book as proof. That's really awesome.
StirItUP1973 1 year ago
twat
gllareva001 1 year ago
Time doesn't exist.
DJflapjackz 1 year ago
Interesting theory. Can I just have the chocolate bar?
nic210 1 year ago
This guy needs to come out of the closet. ^
bennn05 1 year ago
And yes, I'm aware that this account may be a troll account, mirroring VenomFangX's videos, but if that's the case, then the same comment applies to anyone who agrees with this video. If you're wrong about the religion you choose, based upon any argument like this, then you're probably going to toast in a hell of sorts, for all of eternity. Enjoy worrying for the rest of your life, while I relax, playing a nice game of Team Fortress 2.
Kozoi 1 year ago
You didn't prove that God was real, you just thought that you proven something by attempting to relate to the average Atheist's beliefs and then say that if nothing existed, but then something complex suddenly appeared then a God must have created it. Where's the proof that God is real? Where's the proof that evolution is wrong? More importantly, where is the proof that YOUR God is real? For all you know, another religion could be right. Stop with the logical fallacies and make a real rant.
Kozoi 1 year ago 13
@Kozoi God says in the Bible ' Seek me with all of your heart, and you will find Me."
VenomFangXP 1 year ago
@VenomFangXP
Thanks for using a strawman, rather than proving that your God is correct and that all other Gods are ficticious. You've just proven to me, without a doubt, that you're either the stupidest Christian to ever exist, or a fairly successful troll. I was born a Christian and the religion was forced upon me, yet I never believed and I will never believe. Your badly thought out rants aren't going to change that. I'd rather be indecisive about my religion than waste my life believing.
Kozoi 1 year ago
@VenomFangXP You suck at replying. Really suck at replying. If you reply to this it will just be a thing about god. But you fail to realize we are arguing about the EXISTANCE of god. Not God.
undeadhand 1 year ago
@VenomFangXP lol a reasonable commented posted against you, and you put a bible verse. god would have to be real for that verse to be even somewhat relevant.
MegaTROLLTROLLTROLL 1 year ago
@VenomFangXP How is that relevant exactly? Also, no, it doesn't have to be extremely intelligent. I'm not saying that we happened to be perfectly suited for this Earth to survive, instead I'm saying that the Earth was created of millions of years, and life adapted through evolution (i.e. survival of the fittest) to suit it. And if you say "How is it that the life managed to live on long enough to adapt" well, it could be that millions of species were there, and some just didn't make it.
breadfreak96 1 year ago
@Kozoi I think the point he is trying to make is that there is beyond a reasonable doubt that there is a creator. It's like the cosmological argument i think is what he's getting at.
willthethrill9 1 year ago
@willthethrill9
Yes, I was aware that it was a pretentious version of the Cosmological / Watch Maker's argument. I like how the original poster still hasn't proven to me that it's his God, or even a theistic God for that matter. If he's chosen the wrong God then he's just as hell bound as the rest of us, so I'm sure that if a God exists then there's a good chance that we'll see Venom Fang roasting in the nearest fire pit.
Kozoi 1 year ago
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nitelite78 1 year ago
Even if anyone could prove God exists that proof would give no reason to accept the Bible as truth. The world does not need Religion.
nitelite78 1 year ago
isn't he the nutter that had to apoligize to the internets abnd thunderf00t??? i thought he was banned. can someone inform me.
Frog869 1 year ago
@Frog869 i think his old acount got banned or something :P it was venomfangx, without the p
legendin2 1 year ago
Wait, what?
Sorry I wasn't listening.
MrClanzO 1 year ago
this doesn't proove god for shit.
Hejzwej 1 year ago
Arrg.. Whatever great sage/scientist.
Broke that wide open... Ughh
ShaunPuusaari 1 year ago
because he says, that just like an ape is our ancestor, and it cannot possibly comprehend a VCR for example, Nietzsche claims that eventually as we evolve so will our intellect's ability to understand things like infinity, and the universe, etc.
rockstar08876 1 year ago
THANK YOU, yes I can see that you read aristotle, because basically you just explained his famous 3 axioms. I myself am a believer in God, but actually there have been arguments against what you said, and I would like to hear your opinion on them, Nietzsche talks about the evolution into a "superman". Which is a being that can comprehend far more than we humans can, Nietzsche says, that this being (the superman) will be able to comprehend things we cant, for example the concept of infinity.
rockstar08876 1 year ago
LOL @ "i gotcha cornered" God is supposed to be perfect. If something is perfect, it is complete--it needs nothing else. We humans engage in activities because we are pursuing that elusive perfection, because there is disequilibrium caused by a difference between what we are and what we want to be. If God is perfect, there can be no disequilibrium. There is nothing he needs, nothing he desires, and nothing he must or will do. - Chad
iiHateSouljaBoy 1 year ago
why can't you have matter without time?
AdamBond7 1 year ago
Allright then, who created god?
You belive that time itself had to be created, then why does this rule not apply to your god?
Please respond.
blackblackgrey 1 year ago 13
@blackblackgrey God is ETERNAL, He never Begin He never End.
God created Time and space.
Time Dependent on God, But God do not dependent to time. Time can be ended depends on when God will cut it short.
Anyway, you are free to believe there is no God or there is God before the RAPTURE occur. If it doesn't occur I can't convince you there is a God, but if it does occur, you have no other choice but to believe the existence of God. who knows you;ll die before the rapture occurs.
VenomFangXP 1 year ago
@VenomFangXP
You didn't answer my question.
Why do the rules that apply to everything else not apply to god?
If god needs no creator, why does the universe need a creator?
You say the earth is so beutiful and complicated to require, to NEED a designer, if god is so wise and immensily powerful why does HE not need a creator?
I want to belive in god. When a man goes through a peaceful english village near me and starts shooting people dead, I want to say "its ok, its part of gods plan." let me.
blackblackgrey 1 year ago
@blackblackgrey God is the Source of anything that exist in this Entire Universe, cosmos,space or any existence. Period. It's Just they way it is.
Have you read the Bible Honestly. God created The world PERFECT, FLAWLESS, no BLEMISH in the first place Until SIN came to the World. Yes God already see the Future. But Love is FREEWILL, and God gave Freewill to mankind.
On top of that, God says, "MY WILL BE DONE."
sinful mankind can't justify a HOLY God. Humble ourselves to God firt.
VenomFangXP 1 year ago
@VenomFangXP
Your point one:
1) God exists because thats the way it is.
Your point two:
2) God exists because a book says he exists.
I'm sorry, but call me self centered, I prefere my own belifes and reasons for those belifes to christianity, if that is what christianity is. Maybe one day a priest will change that mindset, maybe one day a glorious event will change that mindset. You are indisputibly right about one thing- I shan't belive in god until rapture, until he is proven real.
blackblackgrey 1 year ago
@VenomFangXP you didnt even answer @blackblackgrey's answer you dumbass. your 'theories' or whatever you call those flawed, half-finished thoughts made me cringe. this is a honest question(its easy so even you might understand)
If the world's so PERFECT and god made everything FLAWLESS, Why do we take shits?!?!
SERIOUSLY WHATS THE POINT? did god want me to think of him as i got rid of my waste? wtf?! not to mention the million other things that are still wrong that nature is still perfecting
turkishxboi 1 year ago
@blackblackgrey I would also like to say, That if God exists and he "created" all the natural universe where we ourselves exist, then that God is certianly above and beyond all of this natural universe, making him "supernatural" beyond creation itself as we know it, nor can we begin to try to explain or understand such a "supernatural" God in our own finite words, ideas and knowledge
hezekia100 1 year ago
@blackblackgrey I would also like to say, That if God exists and he "created" all the natural universe where we ourselves exist, then that God is certianly above and beyond all of this natural universe, making him "supernatural" beyond creation itself as we know it, nor can we begin to try to explain or understand such a "supernatural" God in our own finite words, ideas and knowledge
hezekia100 1 year ago
@hezekia100
Yeah thats great, but WHY? Why would god be supernatural, and us not? What makes him special? Planets and stars are HERE, I can SEE them. God I cannot see, and I personally cannot feel. Why SHOULD planets need creating by something I cannot see or feel, when this all powerful thing does not? It makes no sense to simply say "oh, hes supernatural, needs no creator."
blackblackgrey 1 year ago
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@blackblackgrey I would also like to say, That if God exists and he "created" all the natural universe where we ourselves exist, then that God is certianly above and beyond all of this natural universe, making him "supernatural" beyond creation itself as we know it, nor can we begin to try to explain or understand such a "supernatural" God in our own finite words, ideas and knowledge.
hezekia100 1 year ago
@VenomFangXP
Oh as a wrap up, I watched the video "the good fight continues", I dont hate you or anything like that, please dont add me to that list...
peace :)
blackblackgrey 1 year ago
@blackblackgrey I would also like to say... When we talk of "Creation" we speak of natural things like planets, stars and life itself being created in a natural universe, if God exists, he would certainly not be natural but "supernatural" beyond nature and "creation" itself as we understand it.
hezekia100 1 year ago
@blackblackgrey OK. God is. That's the only thing I can say. He is alfa and omega, and he has ALLWAYS existed. Someone who has allways existed cannot be created.
MacJARedd 1 year ago
@MacJARedd
you. have. not. told. me. why.
What is WRONG with you people?
I did not ask, tell me that god is real so I can sit back down in my chair and agree, I said give me a REASON to belive in him. Not that he is alPHa and omega.
Why do we need a god? Tell me that! If all it takes to be a god is that you always existed, why couldn't it be the first, tiny little organisem that always existed? why can't we cut out this opressive, greedy middle man? The only reason is the greed of the church.
jordan123321cookson 1 year ago
@MacJARedd
Sorry, used wrong account. This is still blackblackgrey.
...
the 31 year old Zambian blackblackgrey.
Obviously.
jordan123321cookson 1 year ago
@jordan123321cookson What... ahm... ok... :/
MacJARedd 1 year ago
One flaw with this video: Time is a perspective.
EmceeGlitch 1 year ago
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@VenomFangXP 2.You say "It's either EVERYTHING came from NOTHING, or SOMETHING that always existed created EVERYTHING." Something cannot make itself from nothing,plain and simple.and how can something exist when time hasn't begun?You say that matter can't exist until time begins,so now I've cornered you.
iampokefanjohnny 1 year ago
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@VenomFangXP 2.You say "It's either EVERYTHING came from NOTHING, or SOMETHING that always existed created EVERYTHING." Something cannot make itself from nothing,plain and simple.and how can something exist when time hasn't begun since you say that matter doesn't exist without time.
iampokefanjohnny 1 year ago
@VenomFangXP Just some questions for you.(NOT Atheist BTW.)
1.If the bible says that Adam and Eve started the human race,wouldn't their children's children be retarded(I'm not scared to say retarded.), then so on and so on, so the world would be filled with retards until the human race ended?
2.You say "It's either EVERYTHING came from NOTHING, or SOMETHING that always existed created EVERYTHING." Something cannot make itself from nothing,plain and simple.and how can something exist when tim
iampokefanjohnny 1 year ago 2
Time is a human creation you fucking idiot.
iMThrill 1 year ago
He's right, it pisses me off how everyone tries to do everything by logic, and they think they're so smart just because they estimate everything, just quit being an atheist and name your god.
munruthel1 1 year ago
I think the best part of this video is that he anticipates a lot of negative comments like "You're an idiot". Then I scroll down, and that's all I see.
There's no point getting mad at the guy. If you're so grounded in your own beliefs, why lash out at him? If what you think is real, his existence makes no difference. If what believes is real, maybe you do have a creator to answer to?
AirshipOverWater 1 year ago
this was so smart im ready to change everybody lets go to church guys what created matter what created time nothing it just appeared it wasn't infinite and but even though infinity is non existent god is infinite this makes so much since no wonder only dumb people are atheist like Thomas Jefferson Albert Einstein and Richard Dawkins
metalrocker853 1 year ago
@metalrocker853 WHAT DOES GOD HAS TO SAY ABOUT SCIENTISTS, ATHEISTS AND EVOLUTIONIST?
Proverbs 1:7 The Fear of the LORD is the foundation of true knowledge, but fools despise wisdom and discipline.
Romans 1:22 Claiming to be wise, they instead became utter fools.
All of Scientists will DIE eventually and God Will be the judge and God will always have the last checkmate. Those smart Scientists only as smart as their lifespan. Once they died, God will judge.
VenomFangXP 1 year ago
so your trying to disprove my argument with words from a book that i've read that is very inconsistent and i don't believe in thats like me saying i hate superman and you say well dc comics says superman is awesome so you should believe that do you know how much is missing from your bible the dead sea scrolls are proof of that how many more missing books are their how many were taken out so how can you try and disprove me with an incomplete book
metalrocker853 1 year ago
Time is not linear, nor does it actually exist. We only think it does because we see everything as a "beginning" or "end". Matter however does exist, can't argue with that. "BUT MR ATHEIST, GOD CREATED MATTER AM I RIGHT?" You just said yourself matter cannot be created, not can it be destroyed.
Put the most intense godly or whatever force on a single atom of hydrogen. Can that destroy it? No, it is a basic component of matter. "BUT MR ATHEIST, GOD CAN DO ANYTHING." Oh, go fuck a cat.
Yohannu 1 year ago
I'm glad he is in a mental institution now.
jib1000 1 year ago
You cannot create energy nor destroy it, is what I believe you meant to say.
VisigothViking 1 year ago
thou art a fool!
BruceBaran 1 year ago
XD
You are a fool because, although it is considered that before the Big Bang there was no time, that's just a label, there was energy before the Big Bang (energy can't be destroyed nor created, not even God can), how the fuck would such an explosion occur out of "nothing"????
now matter creates out of energy (in a very basic level of understanding)
Go stone an adulterous women as your holy book says so!! XD
GABOBO1991 1 year ago
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What is time before light existed in our universe? You obviously can't measure time before light, hence lightyears measure how we know approximately when the big bang occurred. Wow, accountability to a creator? Be more pompous and ill-informed. In another of your videos you "prove islam wrong"? I really hope you are kidding. How can you be so credulous about a creator god and in the same breath be so sure that YOURS is the only correct one? You amaze me with your stupidity
no1fanboy 1 year ago
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What is time before light existed in our universe? You obviously can't measure time before light, hence lightyears measure how we know approximately when the big bang occurred. Wow, accountability to a creator? Be more pompous and ill-informed. In another of your videos you "prove islam wrong"? I really hope you are kidding. How can you be so credulous about a creator god and in the same breath be so sure that YOURS is the only correct one? You amaze me with your stupidity
no1fanboy 1 year ago
What is time before light existed in our universe? You obviously can't measure time before light, hence lightyears measure how we know approximately when the big bang occurred. Wow, accountability to a creator? Be more pompous and ill-informed. In another of your videos you "prove islam wrong"? I really hope you are kidding. How can you be so credulous about a creator god and in the same breath be so sure that YOURS is the only correct one? You amaze me with your stupidity.
no1fanboy 1 year ago
that was actually good bro, God bless :) Hehe U know what I think is the best way to get through to a person? Through God :), God is love, 1 John 4, and it says that How do we see God? 1 John 4: 7 Dear friends, let us love one another, for love comes from God. Everyone who loves has been born of God and knows God. 8Whoever does not love does not know God, because God is love..
Who in their right mind would want to turn around when their beign told their wrong,
jimjemrules 1 year ago
But if you instead of Telling them they are wrong and That they are going the wrong direction say blah blah, If we do it the way Jesus Christ would it would be so much DIfferent and easier, If you were to instead of show or tell some1 at all that their wrong, But Infact not tell them their going the wrong way, But Show them THE RIGHT way, its a lot different, but good stuff God bless bro
jimjemrules 1 year ago
I could get behind what you were saying right up until the "extremely intelligent" part. That's completely flawed and our current world could exist without whatever force that created all matter even being self aware. Otherwise, this was an interesting video.
redvsbluefanman 1 year ago
wait... wait... wait... so you are saying that the universe couldn't have existed for an infinite amount of time, but god (for some reason or another.) could have been there for an infinite amount of time. yeah right...
asgamoul 1 year ago
Holy shit you're a fucking dumbass. By using inaccurate scientifc principles, completely flawed logical premises and wild assumptions all you've managed to do is make yourself look like the rampaging dingleberry so many on YT know you for. You know, I've seen your name tossed about in various threads but to actually experience the magnitude of your stupidity first hand is incredibly humbling. Please keep making videos as I need the laughs. Thanks!
captwasabi 1 year ago
i thought venomfang's nonsense died when he left youtube, nice to see another plague to reason has appeared to continue his poisonous work. congratulations
elusive0406 1 year ago
we use time as a measurement for our trivial human pursuits, its not some cosmic alignment spun into action by any entity. you'd say that god made time and it is perfect... but don't forget that little quarter of a day we only account for every four years ;P the concept of infinity is beyond your silly little comprehension so don't try to debate over things in which you have no knowledge of.
apokalypze07 1 year ago
agreed. so dumb.
eeeaten 1 year ago
Is it me or do I remember seeing this video ages ago? Why post it again? lol... Didn't you get in enough trouble last time? Good luck with your life fellow human being.
Talking about life: make sure you enjoy it while it lasts. Because when you die, its over. You will decay and you will return to where you came from. Think of it this way: What did it feel like before you were born? That's what you will feel after death. Sad but true story.
Filiforme 1 year ago
Again? lol... Good luck.
Filiforme 1 year ago
THANKS FOR BEING OBEDIENT N MAKING THS VIDEO IM SURE IT HELPED SOMEONE OUT OF THE 667 BUT WE JUS GOTA PRA FOR THOSE THAT BELIEVE N MAKE SRE THAT WERE READY FOR JESUS RETURN! CUS EVERY KNEE WILL BOW N TONGUE WILL CONFESS WHETEHER WE BELIEVE OR NOT. GOD IS AMAZING N HE NEVA CHANGES!!! AMEN I LIKE WA U AI E DNT BELIEVE CUS E DNT WANT ACCOUNTABILITY WE WANA STAY IN OUR SIN BT THATS OKAY CUZ GOD STILL LOVES US N E ACCEPTS US HOW WE ARE BT LOVES US TOO MUCH TO LEVE US DAT WAY
Iceream1 1 year ago
Even if you was actually right, why do your claims in this video lead you to Christianity? Why not believe that Thor, Woden or the Flying Spaghetti Monster was the magical creator?
I've heard this age old argument a million times before (and yes, it's been debunked), and nobody ever seems to address the question of why does your opinion that this can't have all been here forever (when yes, it could) lead you to believe in an Adam-creating, prayer-listening, sin-forgiving God from the Bible?
StraitKnopfler 1 year ago
ok one time is an illusion. it isn't real, it is here to tell us when the Sun goes up and down. there is also no proof that matter didn't exist before the big bang. also if matter didn't exist is doesn't matter. gases existed, and put nitrogen and oxygen together you got the basic blue print for life. now enter more gases which cause the creation of cells, which later lead to the creation of life which leads to the evolution which leads to man
louis1152 1 year ago
So what makes you think they don't have "religions" of their own?
Hell, they're probably too smart to be believing in shit like god.
They're probably millions of years more advanced then use because they didn't have religion in their way.
JackyRBKwan 1 year ago