4 Arin - geeze man, the look on your face with the kiss part. that hurts man. I know how it feels. And LO fucking L. This guy Kyle? What a douchebag. How did susan leave you for him? or did that happen... i'll have to watch the next episodes....
Yeah but people are what make a society. And people are dumb, but a person is smart. So are you going to actually listen to what people say? They say it's wrong and ugly, but we do it anyway. Because we know not to listen to those stupid people. We know to do what we think is love.
i accidently found this. i didnt start to watch episode one. just wanted to tell you that this episode is like it was describing the part i was going through since the beginning of this year.
i quit relationship, but now we're still meeting ...
I apologize for gtting off topic, but in reality this IS the topic. Like I said before, people in this day and age think that they are living life like it is supposed to be lived. In a society that changes virtually EVERY DAY, we can see all the fallacies in a human being. We are living in a society that deems something bad one day and is good the next. Rapid social changes portray a weak social system filled with conflict; we can all attest to that. Alls we care about is outer beauty these days
First off its hard to take someone talking about society seriously when they have 'Naruto" in their name. Secondly, I'm assuming you're talking about American (U.S.) society. On that note I would like to point out that American culute has been mostly the same for several years and pushes to change anyhting in our culture involving love, relationships, and sex have been gradual. NOTHING happened over night. What you see today is the result of social evolution.
You are looking for a world where your own social behavior is made up for you. I'm sorry, I don't want to live in that world. People fuck up. People make mistakes. If you think you can just live life, and try to avoid making mistakes- that's just impossible. People make choices. They make up what is good and bad by their on social perception. It's what being human is all about. Making choices, and learning from it. The social system you know about is just about the same and will remain that way
People don't realize that Islam seeks to prevent any sort of pre-marital relations. It seeks to prevent them before they even occur--this is God's law. People think that "this is how people are supposed to live; you know, with all the dating and materialsim". They're wrong, God has set a way for us all to live the right, clean way, and his message has been spread already. People think dating and having lots of fun is good but society is better off preventing these things in the first place.
You should shut up. Stop trying to use advice related to god because there is no proof of god. God is something that is a "primal" instinct, were all born with it and some of us grow mature enough to start believing in ourselves, and not in imaginary comforters(I don't really care for your prespective on this so don't talk of it). Yes, I really suppose that we should guess on who we are compatible with right? We shouldn't experiment at all through dating, right?
wow, I went through the same ordeal with my ex-gf ... we decided that we needed to explore more about relationships outside of our own. We were together for 4 yrs, I wanted to propose, but something held me back. Finally we talked, and the only thing that we could finally agree on was...
"If we truly loved each other, we would let each other go"
Next day, I moved out and haven't talked to her or seen her.. so I knew it would have been to be with her.
Arin, I know you're hopelessly in love or whatever, but Susan is immature, pretentious, and reminds me of all the girls in high school that convinced me that they were some kind of emotionally distressed enigma that you had to unlock the key to. Sure, that might be attractive to you, but you don't want to live with someone like her your entire life. Find someone more gentle and understanding.
The problem I see here is both people are looking at the relationship as something for themselves. The other person thusly becomes a tool towards happiness and should you find yourself unhappy (which everyone does) then it makes sense to find another tool for happiness..
In a healthy relationship it isnt about you it is about the other person and the giving of yourself to the other person 100%. They in turn do the same and thusly it is the happiness of the other person that matters.
I find it very brave that they are putting theyr relationship out there, and the ugly part of it especially, but i have to agree w you.....they're using this relationship to make films. If you wanna sleep w loads of people why r u in a relationship?
Kirk, I'm not convinced total dedication is the way to a healthy, happy relationship. You will end up in a situation, where you can only be happy by proxy; and that just sounds unhealthy to me. Being individuals, we can never rid ourselves of our egos; so you will have to find the balance between the two to get it to work. Simply dismissing yourself for the good of the other will simply not work.
I think true love is simply being four eyed monsters. If you really want to be into a long-lasting relationship, it won't last if it's all based on emotion towards one aother. It isn't about you, or the other person- it's about the commitment of looking at the same direction. You aren't looking at each other, but looking at the same place- being one. Four eyes, toward one commitment. Four eyed monsters. :P
I haven't seen any of your other episodes but watching this one made me curious, so I'm going to check them out.
I remember a time watching Warhol's Blow Job film thinking how personal relationships have and will continue to be sacrificed for art, power (money) and fame. Go for it!!
it's sort of interesting how honest you were about what you were going through, not being to stop thinking about "kyle"...
i find it rather illogical to force a relationship to "work".... "sacrifice a part of ourselves" ??? relationships sometimes require compromise, but compromise and sacrifice are not the same thing.
if two people stop being in love (or maybe in this case if one person feels the need to move on) shouldn't they stop being together? love is supposed to be happy, period. if you arent thrilled then it's not right. i never really understood why millions and millions of people are in loveless relationships. yes its scary but wounds heal. everyone deserves true happiness, everyone. even you guys and if that means breaking up, everyone can just deal with it. peace, love, happiness :)
I found this to be absolutely and completely disturbing. Question: Why is it we can take so much for granted? Answer: Because we're selfish. This makes life harder..having to be patient, waiting to just die. Is all the self indulgence in the meantime worth the emotional pain we get to endure in the long run?
I'm sorry, but this is just pathetic. Now cheating on someone is art? "I'm skinnier than I've ever been in my life..." she just proves that she is a heartless bitch. "I wanna fuck" Why didn't she just tell the poor guy "Hey, I don't find you attractive anymore, instead I find a guy that looks almost EXACTLY like you attractive and I wanna fuck him cause I'm skinny"...
Then they decide to make it work because they don't want to lose..... their jobs? WTF? This is just WRONG.
I don't understand, you just film your actual relationship, add music and animation? I mean how can he talk about you cheating on him so calmly? why is it called four eyed monsters?
Four Eyed Monsters refers to the entity of a couple. 2 mouths, 8 limbs wrapped around it's self. The project is a study of our own real relationship to try to learn what love is. Episode 13 is posting very soon and provides that final conclusion.
Yea, I'm that pathetic. And I'm expressing the sentiments of many others out there. At least I'm honest enough to give them constructive criticism. I'd hardly call it 'dumping on them."
wow, great episode. Very well done. So sad, though, the line, "It was the beginning of the end." :-( I commend you both, though, for your commitment to each other. It's more than you see in a lot of married couples. Hope everything works out by the end of the next few episodes.... :-|
It blows my mind how personal you let your documentary get. The line between fact and fiction with you guys is completely blurry to me. And I love watching it.
im gonna check out four eyed mosters this coming sunday at theater. cant wait to see it ^^
bittercokejjang 3 years ago
Hey you guys are such an inspiration and have helped me to take the steps i needed to make me who i am.
DiabloDemon778 3 years ago
AAAAaaah! I just bought your dvd from borders and I'm sooo excited!
Bookitty07 3 years ago
god you're beautiful. that guy doesn't deserve you :p
oldhacks 3 years ago
Why would you sacrifice freedom for "love"?
awkwardfigurine 3 years ago 3
4 Arin - geeze man, the look on your face with the kiss part. that hurts man. I know how it feels. And LO fucking L. This guy Kyle? What a douchebag. How did susan leave you for him? or did that happen... i'll have to watch the next episodes....
PEACE
L0VECHILDD 3 years ago
4 Susan:
Don't tell me, you became a stripper!!! Oh myah gawd. I will have to find out in the next episode....
And what the fuck is up with our generation and their gerascophobia? fucking fuck that man, you are gonna be hot til you die. Seriously.
-Tall Paul From Montreal
L0VECHILDD 3 years ago
Love is a four letter word, the meaning? no one knows.
CN7039 3 years ago 2
Love is not about sex.
TheDragonPaladin 3 years ago 3
Yeah but people are what make a society. And people are dumb, but a person is smart. So are you going to actually listen to what people say? They say it's wrong and ugly, but we do it anyway. Because we know not to listen to those stupid people. We know to do what we think is love.
apocalypse123 3 years ago
totally awesome great job i luv it.
fussb 3 years ago
ex nihilo?? thats latin for "out of nothing"
mootard4life 3 years ago
beautiful
snailboy38 3 years ago
i accidently found this. i didnt start to watch episode one. just wanted to tell you that this episode is like it was describing the part i was going through since the beginning of this year.
i quit relationship, but now we're still meeting ...
i like how you implement the art!
cekay69 3 years ago
very good show
!!!
joycel03 3 years ago
I apologize for gtting off topic, but in reality this IS the topic. Like I said before, people in this day and age think that they are living life like it is supposed to be lived. In a society that changes virtually EVERY DAY, we can see all the fallacies in a human being. We are living in a society that deems something bad one day and is good the next. Rapid social changes portray a weak social system filled with conflict; we can all attest to that. Alls we care about is outer beauty these days
TwinNarutoRPG 3 years ago 4
First off its hard to take someone talking about society seriously when they have 'Naruto" in their name. Secondly, I'm assuming you're talking about American (U.S.) society. On that note I would like to point out that American culute has been mostly the same for several years and pushes to change anyhting in our culture involving love, relationships, and sex have been gradual. NOTHING happened over night. What you see today is the result of social evolution.
dagrimmage 3 years ago
You are looking for a world where your own social behavior is made up for you. I'm sorry, I don't want to live in that world. People fuck up. People make mistakes. If you think you can just live life, and try to avoid making mistakes- that's just impossible. People make choices. They make up what is good and bad by their on social perception. It's what being human is all about. Making choices, and learning from it. The social system you know about is just about the same and will remain that way
aaonflames 3 years ago
People don't realize that Islam seeks to prevent any sort of pre-marital relations. It seeks to prevent them before they even occur--this is God's law. People think that "this is how people are supposed to live; you know, with all the dating and materialsim". They're wrong, God has set a way for us all to live the right, clean way, and his message has been spread already. People think dating and having lots of fun is good but society is better off preventing these things in the first place.
TwinNarutoRPG 3 years ago
You should shut up. Stop trying to use advice related to god because there is no proof of god. God is something that is a "primal" instinct, were all born with it and some of us grow mature enough to start believing in ourselves, and not in imaginary comforters(I don't really care for your prespective on this so don't talk of it). Yes, I really suppose that we should guess on who we are compatible with right? We shouldn't experiment at all through dating, right?
terranfighte1 3 years ago
everything you're stating as fact is predicated on a beleif in God, which not everyone shares with you.
you can't state something as fact when it depends on a total variable such as the beleif in a god..
bbqwoa 3 years ago
frighteningly naturalistic
recycledlipstick 3 years ago
Rated it tops
DrawingWisdom 3 years ago
wow, I went through the same ordeal with my ex-gf ... we decided that we needed to explore more about relationships outside of our own. We were together for 4 yrs, I wanted to propose, but something held me back. Finally we talked, and the only thing that we could finally agree on was...
"If we truly loved each other, we would let each other go"
Next day, I moved out and haven't talked to her or seen her.. so I knew it would have been to be with her.
Good luck!
shizuma2007 3 years ago
anyone know what the name of the first song is?
MistaOssu 3 years ago
whatever that was, It was great!
peacefullending 3 years ago 5
Arin, I know you're hopelessly in love or whatever, but Susan is immature, pretentious, and reminds me of all the girls in high school that convinced me that they were some kind of emotionally distressed enigma that you had to unlock the key to. Sure, that might be attractive to you, but you don't want to live with someone like her your entire life. Find someone more gentle and understanding.
AndrewCostaOmgzzz 3 years ago 25
helped me decide what i have to do in my relation ship. I'm not used to seeing the uncomfortable side of things in others. you kids have bravery yo.
powerful work. *favorite's*
hallucinaJason 3 years ago
this is legit.
password34 3 years ago
i appreciate their art
andrespereyda 3 years ago
brilliant.
dookerbaby 3 years ago
Hey I couldn't comment on the last episode. It is very very good, best thing you've done. Visually and everything else.
Ginlah 3 years ago
finally!
kthxrae 3 years ago
The problem I see here is both people are looking at the relationship as something for themselves. The other person thusly becomes a tool towards happiness and should you find yourself unhappy (which everyone does) then it makes sense to find another tool for happiness..
In a healthy relationship it isnt about you it is about the other person and the giving of yourself to the other person 100%. They in turn do the same and thusly it is the happiness of the other person that matters.
Hunterkirk 3 years ago 29
I find it very brave that they are putting theyr relationship out there, and the ugly part of it especially, but i have to agree w you.....they're using this relationship to make films. If you wanna sleep w loads of people why r u in a relationship?
misssupernova 3 years ago
Kirk, I'm not convinced total dedication is the way to a healthy, happy relationship. You will end up in a situation, where you can only be happy by proxy; and that just sounds unhealthy to me. Being individuals, we can never rid ourselves of our egos; so you will have to find the balance between the two to get it to work. Simply dismissing yourself for the good of the other will simply not work.
Aaberg123 3 years ago
I think true love is simply being four eyed monsters. If you really want to be into a long-lasting relationship, it won't last if it's all based on emotion towards one aother. It isn't about you, or the other person- it's about the commitment of looking at the same direction. You aren't looking at each other, but looking at the same place- being one. Four eyes, toward one commitment. Four eyed monsters. :P
aaonflames 3 years ago
aw.. kinda sad :/
babybuddybear 3 years ago
nice
DaveOfCleveland 3 years ago
please, can someone tell me the name and band of the song that starts at around 1:12?
NKchef 3 years ago
The lists of bands are in the description box.
SaviRaine 3 years ago
wow awesome!
HILARIOUSfunnyPRANKS 3 years ago
LonelyGirl15 ring any bells?
chickentikka88 3 years ago 4
another WOW. you guys are still doing it, still pushing yourselves, still pushing the envelope. awesome.
cookingupastory 3 years ago
Awesome... Very brave!
Laurent510 3 years ago
ahhh I didn't know there were episodes of this. The movie was great. Keep up the work, please. :)
Much much much love.
marinasakimotofilm 3 years ago
Emo as fuck..Kinda makes me sad in a way :(
scilla22 3 years ago
wow wow wow !!!
Shikanoss 3 years ago
Now You're Thinking With Portals
Maaxxwell 3 years ago
Proof that guys get the shitty end of relationships if given enough time.
Women wonder why we just want to get in and get out.
Here's why.
screw you!
btbullard 3 years ago
MY first thought was "Damn what a cheap bitch", my second was "LonelyGirl15"... Anybody following my trace...?
yasserm7amed2000 3 years ago 4
I remember this project it started back in 2004 wow WTG keep up the good work.
lee mochow
MasterLeeMochow 3 years ago
I love your videos, so honest and close to reality.
HoneysuckleBing 3 years ago
wow didnt kno u guys were still making videos
kingpolaris 3 years ago
Wow. I actually enjoyed this. My first episode. I think this may be the best item I have played at random from the front page of youtube.
yavin1 3 years ago
LOL LOL LOL LOL
rochet75 3 years ago
wow a very intresting ep my first and now soon to be meny.
semieviljoe 3 years ago
MY first thought was "Damn what a cheap bitch", my second was "LonelyGirl15"... Anybody following my trace...?
Zhadow65 3 years ago
yes, I also thought about LG15 at first xD
Gerlywood 3 years ago
Stick to your day job...
angelheartnsoul 3 years ago 4
Watch my video and comment plz!!!
DARTHTOM56 3 years ago
I haven't seen any of your other episodes but watching this one made me curious, so I'm going to check them out.
I remember a time watching Warhol's Blow Job film thinking how personal relationships have and will continue to be sacrificed for art, power (money) and fame. Go for it!!
bluhousworker 3 years ago
"take your will and fill of love, where, when & with whom ye will but always unto me"
Liber Al vel Legis, "The Book of the Law"
thecalling418 3 years ago
wow... i love how brutally honest you were.
g00521280 3 years ago
wow ... that was pretty moving
benji3111 3 years ago
it's sort of interesting how honest you were about what you were going through, not being to stop thinking about "kyle"...
i find it rather illogical to force a relationship to "work".... "sacrifice a part of ourselves" ??? relationships sometimes require compromise, but compromise and sacrifice are not the same thing.
lezlieprapra 3 years ago
if two people stop being in love (or maybe in this case if one person feels the need to move on) shouldn't they stop being together? love is supposed to be happy, period. if you arent thrilled then it's not right. i never really understood why millions and millions of people are in loveless relationships. yes its scary but wounds heal. everyone deserves true happiness, everyone. even you guys and if that means breaking up, everyone can just deal with it. peace, love, happiness :)
summerfae 3 years ago
I found this to be absolutely and completely disturbing. Question: Why is it we can take so much for granted? Answer: Because we're selfish. This makes life harder..having to be patient, waiting to just die. Is all the self indulgence in the meantime worth the emotional pain we get to endure in the long run?
leftyakaphil 3 years ago
Congrats on the feature, guys!! :D
aky22 3 years ago
I'm sorry, but this is just pathetic. Now cheating on someone is art? "I'm skinnier than I've ever been in my life..." she just proves that she is a heartless bitch. "I wanna fuck" Why didn't she just tell the poor guy "Hey, I don't find you attractive anymore, instead I find a guy that looks almost EXACTLY like you attractive and I wanna fuck him cause I'm skinny"...
Then they decide to make it work because they don't want to lose..... their jobs? WTF? This is just WRONG.
mommy3102 3 years ago 5
Yeah! Youtube featured this! Nice work.
rrrconserve 3 years ago
wtf, so these guys are goin out but they are fuckin others behind each others back :S :S :S
hainesy619 3 years ago
It's an extremely strange video, but interesting all the same!
jay661uk 3 years ago
I don't understand, you just film your actual relationship, add music and animation? I mean how can he talk about you cheating on him so calmly? why is it called four eyed monsters?
zQWASZX 3 years ago
zQwaszx,
Four Eyed Monsters refers to the entity of a couple. 2 mouths, 8 limbs wrapped around it's self. The project is a study of our own real relationship to try to learn what love is. Episode 13 is posting very soon and provides that final conclusion.
Arin
foureyedmonsters 3 years ago
Thanks man... so it's their real relationship or a recreation of one?
zQWASZX 3 years ago
Yea, I'm that pathetic. And I'm expressing the sentiments of many others out there. At least I'm honest enough to give them constructive criticism. I'd hardly call it 'dumping on them."
yoshitownsend 3 years ago
You really think telling someone their relationship is "lame" isn't dumping on them? Oh well. Guess I was wrong, then.
nrgins 3 years ago
just.... wow
Feliesje 3 years ago
You guys are seriously amazing.
aky22 3 years ago
The best episodes ever to be cut on FCP.
Erik :)
filmsinfocus 3 years ago
You two are just remarkable. Breathtaking. Hard to express, but just thank you. Thank you for sharing your story and yourselves with us.
blindmonk07 3 years ago
wow, great episode. Very well done. So sad, though, the line, "It was the beginning of the end." :-( I commend you both, though, for your commitment to each other. It's more than you see in a lot of married couples. Hope everything works out by the end of the next few episodes.... :-|
nrgins 3 years ago
This is BRILLIANT
again
easternlights 3 years ago
Hang in there: you did what you did, now do what you have to.
LtdAttnSpn 3 years ago
It blows my mind how personal you let your documentary get. The line between fact and fiction with you guys is completely blurry to me. And I love watching it.
rrrconserve 3 years ago
Well first of all I have to congratulate you because all the way that you have already pass for making this project
Actually I'm from Mexico and such great things doesn't pass here becasue manu people are afraid of just making it
Guys you did it and if you finished it or not it's your decission and that doesn't have to change the quality of this terrific project
Seee you sooon with all my kisses
Humpkin_Phersoix
Humpkin 3 years ago
have you ever watched a video
and by the end of it
you have to take a step back
to absorb it all in and you just think 'wow'
theres no other words for it...
'wow'
i havnt seen any full episodes yet. i started watching the whole film but then realised that i was using up the bandwidth that i didnt have.
but...
WOW
i cannot wait for future episodes. keep it going.
pommypictures 3 years ago
I'm still engrossed in your story after god knows how long.
I hope I can pick up your dvd sometime soon.
you guys have madeso much stuff clear in my own life by almost being a voyeur to yours.
it's weird
but I love it.
christheperson 3 years ago
I'm reminded that somethimes sadness is the right direction.
In any case a well constructed episode.
bellpei 3 years ago 2
u know....im still not sure,till now, whether its all a documentary, or a fiction..
..yet i still enjoy it :]
unique/original/inspiring :]
eladbari 3 years ago
Eladbari,
It's not fiction.
foureyedmonsters 3 years ago
don't become a stripper :( :( :(
thereswaterhere 3 years ago 2
Congrats on making your DVD available offline =).
Mfisch016 3 years ago
nice
Mynda23 3 years ago
You are living my life as I am living it. It's almost scary how much I relate to your episodes and how deeply you've touched my life.
I love you guys.
<3
xqxballx69x 3 years ago
Although, don't you think the breakup contradicts your film somewhat?
Or maybe it proves the point of your film?
BlackNoir 3 years ago
Likewise.
BlackNoir 3 years ago
Wow guys.
matthewdryden 3 years ago