Everyone knows about the snap oversteer, but to the guys saying they rarley understeer you are very much mistaken, even with the spare wheel in mr2's lack front wheel traction due to their being no weight over the front wheels, even the stock bumper is plastic, you understeer into corners and then snap oversteer on the way out, they are really not ideal drift cars, bmw 3 series make nice cheep drifters and dare i say it....mx5's :P FR is the way foreward imo
actually, MR2s are hard to drift because: it's hard to make it slide, it has understeer. if ever you make it in a slide, it would hard to bring it back to a straight, it has oversteer.
So yea, mid-engines are mainly for gripping the track.
the mr2 i drove didnt have much under...steer, especially when we were drifting it...yes the dynamics of most mid-engine (sports)cars is to increase it's grip on the track...but i was referring to drifting only...which the mr2 is prone to snap-oversteer and spinning out, for example, drifting through a chicane where you have to go left then right, the weight distribution of the mid-engine (WHILE DRIFTING) makes it difficult to control, often causing snap oversteer and the car spinning out.
not exactilly, but your on the right track, all mid engine cars have something called snap oversteer, they rarely understeer. and its almost impossible to get out of it after you have gone and gotten your self into some snap over steer, it only happens when you are at peek cornering ability of the car, then any slight movement of the throtal brake or steering can throw the car into over steer, if you are not ready, it can be a deaster!!!
i know there is a very fine line between letting it slide and losing controll of it once you lose traction, but to me it sounded as if you were not exactly using the gears to there greatest potential and not exactly giving it alot of hell to keep it sideways..
Holy hell, that place looks like a dream come true! Flint Mi? Nice! I live one state over (Wisconsin). The only place I can think of that is even similar is still government owned and operated, but, this looks like the same thing I would do with my AW11 if given the chance. Despite the "not wrecking the car" attitude, that was pretty big! Screw what other people say, it takes brass balls to drive an MR2 like you do in this video. This really brightened my day to see someone having fun, safely.
If simply "sliding" around on wet pavement is your definition of drifting, then you need to do a bit more research on the subject.
Go punch in "MR2 Drift" in Youtube's search bar and look for the video of the blue MR with an unpainted body kit, thats how drifting and mid engine car is done.
there is a big difference between power sliding and drifting. a power slide is where you just overpower the traction in the rear, a drift is where you control that power slide and can maintain it.
if you remove weight from the front by geting rid of the spare and removing the front bumper brace aircon rad and other bits and pieces you will find the turn in much more responsive with very little understeer. remove what you can from the rear to even things up abit
you can do what you want with an mr2 they can be set up for track or drift mine is set up for track and it still drifts real easy {must have good tyres tho} snows not to bad just dont go over 20mph or turn corners.
I found the factory toe in is way too high with the toe set to less then 0.5mm total front and rear provided better balance but still to understeery when drifting rely on the steering wheels feedback
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sry your 2 retarted to read enet engrishhhh here .....u need to get car grip racing not drift that bad drift bad mr? you get it? or mabe hey stuuupid car ment to be sturdy on ground not sliding that bad, bad mistake very baddd
I agree with S15veilside. I drive an MR2, it isnt a very easy job of going drifting in that car, but its so fun and so exciting in middle of the night. Some scary ass points though on some of the downhill roads. PestVic I dont have lsd and its not a problem at all man.
That is exactly what i was told by some mr2 owners, that its more difficult to drift in that car. My rx7 is too easy to slide the back out. i wondered why i hardly saw any mr2 drift cars. but then again, i'm not into drifting:D
Dont even start drifing the turns until you know the turns. Just drive the road dont speed it for a while. Or if im wrong so I dont feel moded, you might be a grip driver??
Watch drift bible by bestmotoring. MR2 is a great car for drifting if you just learn to brake lightly and countersteer as soon as the tail starts to slide. And I'm talking now about brake drifting, not power-overs. But when practicing with an MR2, be caution. It really is a spin happy car, make sure that you have enough space when you start training..
LOL at posts telling mr2 is good drift car, For one, its engine location is Mid< which is almost rear, and drift car rules is that it should have more mass on front than rear. My current Se-R will probably be more suitable for drifting, Hovewer, driver did decent job, i really liked the way he countered.
dude you don't know shit about cars, drifting rules my ass(maybe only in D1)but in real life anything is possible. MR2 is a good drift car, an easy car to drift no, the best one out there neither, but once you master the car and learn to control it you can drift it almost like a FR car,(exept you wont get really crazy angles.
yea, i agree 1:00 and 1:14 were awesome, I try it in the rain and its freakn insane with my MR2, it slides so easy, Sometimes it happens when im normal driving lol, its kinda scary cuz I might fly off the road :D, Good Drifting, keep it goin
where did you find a place to do that? i mean in a driver's ed place, you were supposed to learn how to drive safely but not drift, i was just wondering how come they let you do it in a educational place. Nice one, i wish i have place to try that too. i used to owe a MR2 1nd Gen Red and 2nd Gen Black. MR2 Owns~~ Nice try
powersteering? what year mr2 is this
FreeRunMonster802 3 months ago
if your driving instructor was next to you i think he might have failed you for breaking traffic rules once or twice. Lol
TheYourmommasucks 11 months ago
You're pretty good, driftfing an MR2 and not wrecking it....nice!!
snowmanii 1 year ago
If I was driving I would have hit that lamp post at least twice.
hardenedman 1 year ago
was this a turbo? do you think you can do this with the 156hp NA?
badmelon18 1 year ago
Everyone knows about the snap oversteer, but to the guys saying they rarley understeer you are very much mistaken, even with the spare wheel in mr2's lack front wheel traction due to their being no weight over the front wheels, even the stock bumper is plastic, you understeer into corners and then snap oversteer on the way out, they are really not ideal drift cars, bmw 3 series make nice cheep drifters and dare i say it....mx5's :P FR is the way foreward imo
NewRomantic4 1 year ago 2
Good stuff!
dariunas 1 year ago
ugly ass road
hiluss 1 year ago
I wish there's a place like this around my area where I can practice all day every weekends.
pocketkiriyama 2 years ago
nice job, it's hard to keep a mid engine car from spinning out, especially since MR2s are very prone to snap oversteer
cusil4d 2 years ago
actually, MR2s are hard to drift because: it's hard to make it slide, it has understeer. if ever you make it in a slide, it would hard to bring it back to a straight, it has oversteer.
So yea, mid-engines are mainly for gripping the track.
steinarmacedadaddy 2 years ago
the mr2 i drove didnt have much under...steer, especially when we were drifting it...yes the dynamics of most mid-engine (sports)cars is to increase it's grip on the track...but i was referring to drifting only...which the mr2 is prone to snap-oversteer and spinning out, for example, drifting through a chicane where you have to go left then right, the weight distribution of the mid-engine (WHILE DRIFTING) makes it difficult to control, often causing snap oversteer and the car spinning out.
cusil4d 2 years ago
not exactilly, but your on the right track, all mid engine cars have something called snap oversteer, they rarely understeer. and its almost impossible to get out of it after you have gone and gotten your self into some snap over steer, it only happens when you are at peek cornering ability of the car, then any slight movement of the throtal brake or steering can throw the car into over steer, if you are not ready, it can be a deaster!!!
reatard132 2 years ago
my mr2 would fall apart if i did that :/
maxrieser 2 years ago
road shit
BongoVIP 2 years ago
Around 1:15... clean ass slide man. Gold stars for you.
(P.S. I'll post some vids when I get my mr2 here late june early july :3!!!! Too excited)
greyskullgrim 2 years ago
i know there is a very fine line between letting it slide and losing controll of it once you lose traction, but to me it sounded as if you were not exactly using the gears to there greatest potential and not exactly giving it alot of hell to keep it sideways..
bloodreighn 2 years ago
No turbo!
GTFour550 2 years ago
dude you have bars
disbealec 3 years ago
turbo?
alexlex85 3 years ago
skillz!!!!
omegaeyez 3 years ago
I know it sounds weird but that reminds me of project torque.
KingScottProductions 3 years ago
at least you had the smarts to do it where no oine was and you wore a helmet 5 starts
Norrek4040 3 years ago 10
That road looks like you would need new ball joints after 5 minutes of regular driving let alone drifting...
Squishydoodoo 3 years ago
hey Jw. Could someone explain the difference between understeer and oversteer?
Liberty2431 3 years ago
Understeer is when you continue to move in a straight line when trying to turn (ie plowing).
Oversteer is when the back end tries to overtake the front (ie sliding or drifting)
stampedemag 3 years ago
thats alot of under
vietgmac10 3 years ago
the 1.00 was pretty kwl
DONDEHOOD2 3 years ago
That looked fun!
midenginemagic 3 years ago
Cool!
iluvmorrissey 3 years ago
you blew a stop sign!! :O
SilverBoarder312 3 years ago
very nicely done my friend!
Camaroheat3400 3 years ago
Where is a good place to get an MR2 on the web like craigslist or something, at 1:15 you kinda lost control
protoman002 3 years ago
autotrader or ebay...craigslist can be scammy so be careful.
Camaroheat3400 3 years ago
lost control? just a little ambitious :p haha
1tehmoog1 3 years ago
Damn that place looks like alot of fun!!!! Nice job!!!
94miata 3 years ago
damn i wish that was there when I was in flint...
damanwitoutaname 3 years ago
Holy hell, that place looks like a dream come true! Flint Mi? Nice! I live one state over (Wisconsin). The only place I can think of that is even similar is still government owned and operated, but, this looks like the same thing I would do with my AW11 if given the chance. Despite the "not wrecking the car" attitude, that was pretty big! Screw what other people say, it takes brass balls to drive an MR2 like you do in this video. This really brightened my day to see someone having fun, safely.
toctuning 3 years ago
Sounds good :)
NFSmaster14 4 years ago
where is this place?? i would love to drift here. and i like yr mr2, sounds healthy ahah
dorifto91 4 years ago
It was in Flint, MI, but it's since been torn down, unfortunately.
Raptor13x 4 years ago
@Raptor13x ouch flint michigan? hows the town now? still bad or getting alittle better?
Deidric1 8 months ago
some nice drifts =D
indulgence1988 4 years ago
your drift entry speed is too slow
happyKiat 4 years ago
my "not wrecking my car" goal is too high ;)
Raptor13x 4 years ago 16
then why are you drifting in the streets??... take that to the track if your "my 'not wrecking my car' goal is too high"
giodachamp 4 years ago
never mind
giodachamp 4 years ago
r u wearing a helmet???
ZappFlyPL 4 years ago
No, I have a big round white shiny head with a Bell sticker on my forehead. :P
Raptor13x 4 years ago 23
cool reminds me of hitman =0
ZappFlyPL 4 years ago
AKA he is the Stig >D
KonohanoNaruto 1 year ago
@ZappFlyPL hahahaha
tlesiak91 1 year ago
wow you ran HELLA STOP SIGNS lol... nice... is this a closed course??? cuz shoot I was like "damn I hope no cars come!!!" haha
minhtake 4 years ago
haha, apparently you neglected to read the video description. :) It's an old driver education facility in Flint, MI- nothing to hit.
Too bad they bulldozed it a few years ago, it used to be a great auto-x course for my school at the time.
Raptor13x 4 years ago
ahh my bad... but that sure loooks like fun!
minhtake 4 years ago
This is nice and all, but your not drifting, your just driving aggressively.
SpikeRazzor 4 years ago
yes, it is drifting. he's sliding, his car isnt pointed the way he's actually going
its drifting
tho in an MR2 its hard to do, and you cant get the same angle as in an FR car
hopethisainttaken 4 years ago
If simply "sliding" around on wet pavement is your definition of drifting, then you need to do a bit more research on the subject.
Go punch in "MR2 Drift" in Youtube's search bar and look for the video of the blue MR with an unpainted body kit, thats how drifting and mid engine car is done.
SpikeRazzor 4 years ago
there is a big difference between power sliding and drifting. a power slide is where you just overpower the traction in the rear, a drift is where you control that power slide and can maintain it.
blackdelsol 4 years ago
Looks like great fun! Nice drifting!
Gassolinebonce 4 years ago
nice drifts you rock!
Pianokid999 4 years ago
if you remove weight from the front by geting rid of the spare and removing the front bumper brace aircon rad and other bits and pieces you will find the turn in much more responsive with very little understeer. remove what you can from the rear to even things up abit
hattoni 4 years ago 2
Way ahead of you there ;)
Weight reduction is my speciality :)
Raptor13x 4 years ago
you can do what you want with an mr2 they can be set up for track or drift mine is set up for track and it still drifts real easy {must have good tyres tho} snows not to bad just dont go over 20mph or turn corners.
hattoni 4 years ago
I found the factory toe in is way too high with the toe set to less then 0.5mm total front and rear provided better balance but still to understeery when drifting rely on the steering wheels feedback
atleastitsnotcrack 4 years ago
holy shit what the fuck are saying
bagofsuck22 4 years ago
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sry your 2 retarted to read enet engrishhhh here .....u need to get car grip racing not drift that bad drift bad mr? you get it? or mabe hey stuuupid car ment to be sturdy on ground not sliding that bad, bad mistake very baddd
nepopolus 4 years ago
Seriously dude, what the hell are you trying to say? I could train a monkey to type better English.
Raptor13x 4 years ago
after reading this and the responses you got I'd say your more intoxicated then I or born with severe brain retardation
atleastitsnotcrack 4 years ago
LMAO!!! BTW Nice video.
GhostRider3149 4 years ago
car is not ment to be drifted...it is mr enough said lol go track race it and grip it is alot faster.
nepopolus 4 years ago
If you're going to type, please do so in English.
Raptor13x 4 years ago
much mr2 drifter love
blatz66 4 years ago
I agree with S15veilside. I drive an MR2, it isnt a very easy job of going drifting in that car, but its so fun and so exciting in middle of the night. Some scary ass points though on some of the downhill roads. PestVic I dont have lsd and its not a problem at all man.
zodiak650 4 years ago
That is exactly what i was told by some mr2 owners, that its more difficult to drift in that car. My rx7 is too easy to slide the back out. i wondered why i hardly saw any mr2 drift cars. but then again, i'm not into drifting:D
vkotis 4 years ago
Dont even start drifing the turns until you know the turns. Just drive the road dont speed it for a while. Or if im wrong so I dont feel moded, you might be a grip driver??
zodiak650 4 years ago
Drive it like you stole it lol
welshie06 4 years ago
Watch drift bible by bestmotoring. MR2 is a great car for drifting if you just learn to brake lightly and countersteer as soon as the tail starts to slide. And I'm talking now about brake drifting, not power-overs. But when practicing with an MR2, be caution. It really is a spin happy car, make sure that you have enough space when you start training..
Lewenos 4 years ago
LOL at posts telling mr2 is good drift car, For one, its engine location is Mid< which is almost rear, and drift car rules is that it should have more mass on front than rear. My current Se-R will probably be more suitable for drifting, Hovewer, driver did decent job, i really liked the way he countered.
S15veilside 4 years ago
dude you don't know shit about cars, drifting rules my ass(maybe only in D1)but in real life anything is possible. MR2 is a good drift car, an easy car to drift no, the best one out there neither, but once you master the car and learn to control it you can drift it almost like a FR car,(exept you wont get really crazy angles.
topsecret5 4 years ago
where is this course, it looks great
mustang500e 4 years ago
Dude good job man, what gear did you stay in mostly 2nd??
Boostinmister2 4 years ago
I'd pay money to drive on this course! It looks like a lot of fun!!
fusionvic 4 years ago
the guy is just trying to get a feel for his car...just figuring out the balace..and the Mr2 is all about balance
youngweezy11 4 years ago
i love my turbo two. but i dont got an lsd or a track to practice :(
PestVic 4 years ago
yea, i agree 1:00 and 1:14 were awesome, I try it in the rain and its freakn insane with my MR2, it slides so easy, Sometimes it happens when im normal driving lol, its kinda scary cuz I might fly off the road :D, Good Drifting, keep it goin
Elephant831 4 years ago
is it skate broad helmet? cuz my cusin use snowboard helmet when he practice. lol
lovingmy240 5 years ago
nice helmet
dbaker525 5 years ago
plese learn how to drift before putting this pure attempt of drifting people like you give mr2's a bad name in the drifting world!!!! geeeeeeeeeeeeek
a1gubb 5 years ago
at least hes trying i dont see you with a drift video so blow it out your ass fwd boy.
mark7371 5 years ago
hmm I am saving for an MR2.. Cant wait! with my current car i need snow to get a drift .. hehe !
Syrax2Beta 5 years ago
and with snow and an mr2 you will wrap yourself around a pole if you don't have a lot of experience with mr2's lol
topsecret5 4 years ago
where did you find a place to do that? i mean in a driver's ed place, you were supposed to learn how to drive safely but not drift, i was just wondering how come they let you do it in a educational place. Nice one, i wish i have place to try that too. i used to owe a MR2 1nd Gen Red and 2nd Gen Black. MR2 Owns~~ Nice try
sdutango 5 years ago
too jerky, but nice stuff anyhow
gpwap1 5 years ago
good job. 1:00 and 1:14 were nice
alexunwin4 5 years ago
pretty sic....nice counter steering
pwalk123 5 years ago
lol i do this too.. should do it in the rain or when its snowing. :D
chiigo 5 years ago