I agree that something can be logical without being "right," in either the factual or the moral sense. What I mean is Chomsky's response would likely begin with him asking you what you mean when you use the term in an abstract sense. Chomsky seems by and large opposed to American foreign policy. That does not make him "anti-American" in some rhetorical sense.
"Chomsky seems by and large opposed to American foreign policy. That does not make him "anti-American""
--He's also highly critical (or you could say disdainful or even hateful) of Americans and America in general. And for foreign policy, its fine to say you don't think this or that is best for America, but to him its not from that perspective. Its from a "hate-America" perspective, and he doesn't want things to benefit America.
"He's also highly critical (or you could say disdainful or even hateful) of Americans and America in general."
False. He constantly mentions that he thinks America is the freest country in the world. From his interview with Pilger, "United States is...the freest society in the world. The level of protection for freedom of speech in the United States...has no parallel elsewhere."
"he doesn't want things to benefit America"
False. If you have actual quotes from him, present them.
"He's also highly critical (or you could say disdainful or even hateful) of Americans and America in general."
Chomsky, 2003:
"In many respects, the United States is the freest country in the world. I don't just mean in terms of limits on state coercion, though that's true too, but also in terms of individual relations. The United States comes closer to classlessness in terms of interpersonal relations than virtually any society."
"The United States comes closer to classlessness in terms of interpersonal relations"
--The USA is totally classless in all respects. Of couse, other than for journalists. They are officiall 1st class citizens and we are all 2nd class citizens, under law. Something I don't like and I wish would change.
So appreciating the USA for its actual freedoms & opportunities and acknowledging the fact that we have a classless society is an "unrealistic standard?"
@dmlauffer Wow. I don't even know what to say to this. Chomsky supported murderous dictators? You might want to read or listen to a lot more Chomsky and then re-evaluate your comment.
@carriellbee Well "support" is the wrong word. You are right. I'll take that back and say "takes the side of." And I'm talking about Castro, Pol Pot, and basically every Arab country around the world.
@dmlauffer I don't see it this way. I get what you are saying, but pointing out the many faults of the US and Israel is NOT the same as taking the other side. Know what I mean? I haven't heard Chomsky sing the praises of ANY government or government leader.
Listen more closely, And maybe even send N.C. an email and ask him about this. I think it would be good to hear it straight from him.
I once emailed Chomsky praising him for "Hegemony or Survival" and I was actually really surprised when he answered me back. I thought that was really cool of him to do especially considering what his schedule must be like.
Good question and as usual on this subject, a wonderful answer from Chomsky.
Thx for sharing this interesting question. Would have like Chomsky to expand on how the US/Israel installed radical Islam and whether they still think it's under control.
"radical islam" is a pretty wide tterm. if you consider the taliban "radical islam", then a report came out not too long ago saying that major contractors in afghanistan are actually paying the taliban off hefty amounts for "protection." the money for these contracts comes from the west. so, in one way, yes.
if you want to take it to mean, does the us/israel collude with foreign actors in internal terrorist attacks like 9-11, he's on the record as disputing this claim. i would agree.
how wonderful! so you just emailed him your question, huh? also, it is interesting to hear text by chomsky realized through text-to-speech; it is quite similar to his his spoken parlance. I mean this, actually, as a compliment; he is as clear and eloquent in his speech as in his writing, which is very much so.
I'd like to ask Chomsky why he's such an anti-American Neo-Communist.
NoGuff 1 year ago
@NoGuff
gooooooodd
openyourfuckingeyes 1 year ago
@NoGuff why are you such a pro-american neo-stalinist?
poop121 1 year ago
@poop121
Pro-American, yes. Neo-Stalinist, no.
NoGuff 1 year ago
@NoGuff
Are you kidding? People like you are an absolute joke.
AntonBatey 1 year ago
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@AntonBatey
"People like you are an absolute joke."
--Ahhh, yes. I'm a joke because I love my country AND the beliefs it was founded on. You're awesome.
NoGuff 1 year ago
@NoGuff
I would also like you to ask him that, just to hear him subsequently destroy you with sheer logic.
jaybeebles 1 year ago
@jaybeebles
His sheer anti-American, Neo-Communist logic?
Hitler and Stalin had their own "logic," too. Doesn't mean they were right.
NoGuff 1 year ago
@NoGuff
I agree that something can be logical without being "right," in either the factual or the moral sense. What I mean is Chomsky's response would likely begin with him asking you what you mean when you use the term in an abstract sense. Chomsky seems by and large opposed to American foreign policy. That does not make him "anti-American" in some rhetorical sense.
jaybeebles 1 year ago
@jaybeebles
"Chomsky seems by and large opposed to American foreign policy. That does not make him "anti-American""
--He's also highly critical (or you could say disdainful or even hateful) of Americans and America in general. And for foreign policy, its fine to say you don't think this or that is best for America, but to him its not from that perspective. Its from a "hate-America" perspective, and he doesn't want things to benefit America.
Thus, anti-American.
NoGuff 1 year ago
@NoGuff
"He's also highly critical (or you could say disdainful or even hateful) of Americans and America in general."
False. He constantly mentions that he thinks America is the freest country in the world. From his interview with Pilger, "United States is...the freest society in the world. The level of protection for freedom of speech in the United States...has no parallel elsewhere."
"he doesn't want things to benefit America"
False. If you have actual quotes from him, present them.
openyourfuckingeyes 1 year ago
@NoGuff
"He's also highly critical (or you could say disdainful or even hateful) of Americans and America in general."
Chomsky, 2003:
"In many respects, the United States is the freest country in the world. I don't just mean in terms of limits on state coercion, though that's true too, but also in terms of individual relations. The United States comes closer to classlessness in terms of interpersonal relations than virtually any society."
openyourfuckingeyes 1 year ago
@openyourfuckingeyes
"In many respects"
--In all respects.
"The United States comes closer to classlessness in terms of interpersonal relations"
--The USA is totally classless in all respects. Of couse, other than for journalists. They are officiall 1st class citizens and we are all 2nd class citizens, under law. Something I don't like and I wish would change.
NoGuff 1 year ago
@NoGuff
ok, so now that you've seen and processed those quotes, you can stop spreading misinformation.
openyourfuckingeyes 1 year ago
@openyourfuckingeyes
In other words, you're just going to ignore what I wrote. Typical Liberal, no dissenting opinion will be considered.
If he were an "all American patriot" he would not have said what he did. Learn to interpret, please.
NoGuff 1 year ago
@NoGuff
Sorry he doesn't live up to your unrealistic standards.
openyourfuckingeyes 1 year ago 2
@openyourfuckingeyes
So appreciating the USA for its actual freedoms & opportunities and acknowledging the fact that we have a classless society is an "unrealistic standard?"
Wow, whatever you say.
NoGuff 1 year ago
@openyourfuckingeyes Noam Chomsky is a dishonest propagandist who has supported murderous dictators for the last 40 years. You know it's true.
dmlauffer 1 year ago
@dmlauffer Wow. I don't even know what to say to this. Chomsky supported murderous dictators? You might want to read or listen to a lot more Chomsky and then re-evaluate your comment.
carriellbee 1 year ago
@carriellbee Well "support" is the wrong word. You are right. I'll take that back and say "takes the side of." And I'm talking about Castro, Pol Pot, and basically every Arab country around the world.
dmlauffer 1 year ago
@dmlauffer I don't see it this way. I get what you are saying, but pointing out the many faults of the US and Israel is NOT the same as taking the other side. Know what I mean? I haven't heard Chomsky sing the praises of ANY government or government leader.
Listen more closely, And maybe even send N.C. an email and ask him about this. I think it would be good to hear it straight from him.
carriellbee 1 year ago
I once emailed Chomsky praising him for "Hegemony or Survival" and I was actually really surprised when he answered me back. I thought that was really cool of him to do especially considering what his schedule must be like.
Good question and as usual on this subject, a wonderful answer from Chomsky.
BloggerMusicMan 2 years ago
Thx for sharing this interesting question. Would have like Chomsky to expand on how the US/Israel installed radical Islam and whether they still think it's under control.
alex871uk 2 years ago
"radical islam" is a pretty wide tterm. if you consider the taliban "radical islam", then a report came out not too long ago saying that major contractors in afghanistan are actually paying the taliban off hefty amounts for "protection." the money for these contracts comes from the west. so, in one way, yes.
if you want to take it to mean, does the us/israel collude with foreign actors in internal terrorist attacks like 9-11, he's on the record as disputing this claim. i would agree.
openyourfuckingeyes 2 years ago
My understanding was that Hamas was encouraged by Mosad, the Israeli intelligence service because it was an opposition to the PLO and Fatah.
It grew out of the social projects which were providing food in the name of Islam.
Israel hit the left and PLO, Hamas was able to take it's place, thus it killed the peace process and was able to point to radical Islam as the reason.
Same in Iran and Iraq, the opposition they really fear is left secularism as this radicalises their own populations.
marsCubed 2 years ago
transcript please, cannot process text-to-speech :(
alex871uk 2 years ago
sure, its in the video description now. check that.
openyourfuckingeyes 2 years ago
how wonderful! so you just emailed him your question, huh? also, it is interesting to hear text by chomsky realized through text-to-speech; it is quite similar to his his spoken parlance. I mean this, actually, as a compliment; he is as clear and eloquent in his speech as in his writing, which is very much so.
walterm85 2 years ago