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  • I agree he knew WAY too much

  • I smell a conspiracy... Perhap one of the men knew too much?!

  • @silentiumestaureum93  Too much about what?

  • cannibalism

  • Foil is used as a fishing lure. An experienced fisherman might laminate it to paper for durability. I'm guessing it was the only thing the deceased had on him when he died that was of no value so it was buried with him. The rest is pretty self-explanatory - men died during storm, partially eaten skeleton washed up years later with the boat and was buried by an outlaw or a native of one of the neighbouring islands.

  • @EClein2 Still doesn't answer where the boat was between the time the island was first checked---a few years before it was found and when it was found. And how did it drift some 3,000 miles away and endure for years?

  • @napachild It was either at the bottom of the sea with the body entombed in the wreckage and churned out some time after the survey, or had drifted to a neighbouring island where it stayed for years before being found and then towed to an uninhabited island for a simple burial. That will always be speculation though. Fascinating story.

  • 2:53 Charlie Sheen?

  • @TheAngelicDemise Almost, but no cigar!! LOL!

  • @TheAngelicDemise Dr. Oz!

  • Keep in mind that these men were not amateurs-they had many years of seagoing experience and one of them was a professional fisherman.

    Unlikely these guys would stay out too long with a major wind blowing.

    Something happened to these men-they were killed.

    I wouldnt be surprised if they were murdered.

  • @MultiSmartass1 I LOVE your User ID! LOL! I tend to agree with you, but I have heard explanations that make sense in one way or another but still doesn't explain the whole thing. Question still remains: Who buried Scott Mooreman and where are the other 4? I saw a comment from someone that said Asian cultures use white squares of paper with silver in the middle for burials. That's one possibility as to the paper. Still leaves questions.

  • @napachild Thanks for the compliment. Napachild doesnt sound too bad either.

    Yes, this is case is mysterious (thus the segment on UM).

    Again, these men were experienced on the water and unless there is reason and evidence to prove otherwise, it wouldnt make any sense for them to remain out on the water with those kinds of winds blowing up and eventually getting stormy.

  • Air date?

  • @tall32guy I believe it was originally aired in the late 80's. Because the men disappeared in 1979 and there was a 10-year gap in the time they went missing to when the remains were found on that island. So I believe it was aired in the late 80's. Hope I helped.

  • @tall32guy 1987 to presentday

  • @minibike11110 No I was asking the air date of this episode. Not the whole UM series. LOL I was already aware of the airdates for that....

  • @tall32guy o my bad sorry

  • im surprised they didnt look into the paper book foil thing. I believe it was a hawaiian or religious/cultural tradition of some tribe or something that when someone dies that you place a booklet like that in the grave.

  • have the family contacted there spirit they can learn to touch objects and moved them in order to better communicate.

  • Likely that these men were killed but i dont think they were killed by any storm.

    The fact that the boat was placed on shore and one of the men was buried is suspicious.

    I wouldn't rule out murder here.

  • Im looking for an episode of UM where some guys get stranded out in the ocean presumed dead, then years later the mother of one of the guys gets strange calls saying her son will be returned to her soon...does anyone remember this episode?

  • @GetMyFeetGirl casie nicole

  • @GetMyFeetGirl From what I remember--and believe me at times that's not much!--it sounds like two different episodes. One I can remember is where a man finds a syrofoam container (large one) and was able to survive in it---and I remember the mother of a young woman getting calls years later from someone who sounded like her daughter, but that's all I remember. Go to unsolved.com and you can find out about all the cases presented on tv.

  • There was a similar fishing boat disaster involving four guys in 2009 off the Coast of Florida in the Gulf of Mexico. There was one survivor of that disaster by the name of Nick Schuyler and he wrote the book "Not Without Hope," describing the whole ordeal.

  • @afbocc Wasn't that the one that involved the NFL players? If so, I remember that one. Glad you liked this episode.

  • @napachild Yep, the NFL involved were Corey Smith and Marquis Cooper. I do enjoy the Unsolved Mysteries epidoes in general.

  • I have a pretty simple theory...

    All but Scott are swept overboard during the storm. Scott dies in the boat while it is drifting out on the Pacific. Afterwards, as in years later, a fishing boat passes, seeing the tiny vessel. They tow the little boat to the island, bury Scott (who is only bones at this point) out of respect, and move on.

    Why not report it? Poaching..pirating... illegal cargo or catch.. or maybe because he'd been dead so long

  • @dravenousone I agree it sounds like a very plausible explanation. There is another comment on this page from someone who explained the squares of paper. He said they are Joss Paper which the Chinese use to bury their dead. The only thing strange about the Joss Paper is that none of the "experts" or anyone else came up with the Joss Paper theory. Combine your theory with the Joss Paper theory and its very plausible.

  • @dravenousone

    Solid theory.

  • @alikill Thank you! :)

    I love this show and those similar to it.

  • @dravenousone what's the explaination for the notebook?

  • @555paint The pieces of paper found with the body?

    I'm thinking a crude attempt at a type of burial rite? Not sure.

    Some parts are still a mystery. :)

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  • Well... Scott didnt bury himself. This is very creepy.

  • @mdf39735 I agree. That's why I recorded this episode years ago. I did have one viewer comment about the pieces of paper. He said it looks like Joss Paper the Chinese use when burying the dead. Its the best explanation for that part of it. But still the question remains: Who buried Scott Mooreman? And where are the other 4? I'm sure they are probably dead, but what happened to their bodies? Since the boat was found close by, where are the others?

  • @napachild the other four fell into the sea during the storm and are now bones somewhere in the pacific, good luck at ever finding those... the partial body of scott was probably attached to the boat when this mystery person found the wreckage and decided to bury the remains.

  • @akuma4u: This is a very good episode. Why would the mystery person buried the body and put some papers there? If I found the wreckage, I would call the police first. So they can investigate it. It's their job to find the answer and take the body away. So they can contact the victim's relatives. This mystery will never be solved because the idiot person who buried the remains didn't tell the police about it.

  • Creepy...!

  • @whitneyv Isn't it though? I have been very interested in viewer's opinions about what happened. And every theory that has been mentioned still can't answer all the questions. For instance, the island was uninhabitated. So who buried Scott Mooreman? One viewer said the paper found in the grave looks like Joss Paper the Chinese use when burying the dead. That's the best answer for that part of the mystery I've heard. But no one has come up with who buried Scott that's really logical.

  • Creepy...!

  • I think what simply happened was the men all died at sea, and Moormans body remained in boat longer than anyone elses, and got close enough to the island to wash ashore there. My guess is someone came along and found the body and buried it. The Navy simply overlooked the grave when they came along. I can imagine those guys having to survey all those many islands may not have been thorough enough to spot it.

  • i doubt they buried him knowing he was christian, the cross is just a symbol for a grave, they probably did it so if anyone found it they would know it was a grave. instead of just seeing a pile of rocks.

    VERY weird case, is it possible they just didnt notice the boat when they checked the island? like how well did they actually check it

    Definitly a mystery!!

  • the sound is not the best on this video

  • @TheMrmoonlight I apologize for the poor quality on some of these videos.  They were originally recorded back in the late 1980's and early 90's on VHS cassette. Then when I got a combo VCR/DVD that dubbed, I transferred them all to DVDs. It just didn't improve the quality when I did that. I hoped that they are still watchable enough for other Unsolved Mysteries fans that might not have seen these episodes or are just an Unsolved Mysteries buff like me.

  • @napachild yeah well thats cool, sorry for saying. I shouldn't complain really, just be grateful you have uploaded

  • @TheMrmoonlight As long as the quality is good enough so it can be comprehended, that's all good! I'm glad you enjoy the episodes.

  • The "notebook" looks like Joss Paper. Square white paper with a smaller square foil in the middle. In the Chinese Tradition, they burn paper money for the dead, so the dead can have a easier time getting to their destination. So the person who buried Scott could be Chinese. What do you think?

  • @twinkles518 I think its a very logical theory. Only why did they put up a cross unless one of the others was still alive to tell them they were Christian. But see--you knew what those little squares were--at least you're the first one to take a stab at what they are. When this was originally filmed, no mention was made of anyone understanding what those squares of paper were. So let's say it was the Chinese who buried him. Do you think he was the last one left alive? More thoughts, pls.

  • @napachild I figure the Chinese person who buried Scott prob thought "white person, religion is cross". So that person put up the cross in respect of the dead and added his/her touch (the Joss paper) to help Scott along to his journey. He/she was prob a foreign traveler and saw Scott's boat and came to investigate. Then he/she found Scott's body. and figure he/she'll bury Scott. After the burial, they continued with their travels.

  • @twinkles518 Still sounds good to me. But if that is what happened, then this mystery person must have found the boat with everyone gone (presumably lost at sea) except Scott Mooreman. Now there's just one more little thing that is still not explained. Why was there no trace of that boat when they checked the island back in 1985? They didn't find the boat and the grave until 1988. Where was it all those years? And if everyone was killed at sea, how did Scott Mooreman make it till 1988?

  • Would anyone like to know what MY theory is? Let me know.

  • @napachild what is YOUR theory?

  • @entehrend Oh dear, I'm having a bad hair day! Please see the general comment above. This is what I couldn't fit in above. It could be there were only one or two survivors left when the UFO abducted them. This theory explains all the other questions remaining. It would explain why the boat wasn't there in 1985 when the island was checked and Scott Mooreman died sometime after that and they came back to bury him. It would explain those strange pieces of paper found in the grave. More..

  • @entehrend The first comment is below the one I sent to you. Like I said, I'm having a bad hair day! The reason I think others were still alive when Scott Mooreman was buried is because it was clearly a Christian grave and I'm positive no aliens are aware of the religions in this world. Any way, as impossible to believe as this theory is, it still addresses all other unanwered questions from other theories. Can't wait for your comment!

  • @napachild Gee whiz--I thought you'd NEVER ask!! LOL! My theory is dependent on how much one believes in UFOs and alien abductions. I became a believer in that when I saw the Allegheny 4 on Unsolved Mysteries (I have that one uploaded). I believe a UFO adbucted them (and the boat) and for whatever reasons kept them a long time. When Scott Mooreman died, they allowed any of the others still alive to bury him on that island and they left the boat and took whatever survivors there were.

  • Maybe they drifted to another island during the storm that was also isolated. They lived on fish for 6 years. Then take the boat in a random direction looking for home. But hit the new island and give up there.

  • @entehrend That's also a very valid and interesting theory. But the same question still exists: "What happened to the people that buried Scott Mooreman. The island was uninhabited. And who left the little squares of paper with the metallic squares in the middle? Where would one even find something like that under the circumstances? This is like the story problems you had to figure out in Math class. I hated story problems!! I thank everyone who gives an honest opinion and theory.

  • It is possible that they all died while still out to sea on the boat and that 4 of the 5 bodies eventually got tossed overboard by heavy waves over the course of 6-8 years, and the boat finally washed up on shore in 1986-87

  • @ff2paladin I agree that's possible, but who buried Scott Mooreman? And what's up with the little squares of paper with the tin foil like material in the middle? This has been one of my most favorite Unsolved Mysteries because no matter what explanation people come up with, it still leaves lots of unanswered questions. I welcome all comments and theories as to what happened to all of them.

  • "According to the brother of one of the missing men" sounds unreliable to me, I think most of them drowned in the storm or died of thirst during the 3 months it took to drift to the Island because the boat lost its engines in the storm, Scott's body was probably still in the boat when it was found near or on the island and some locals buried him and didn't contact any authorities the paper could signify an unknown tradition or be meaningless.

  • I agree with these comments. Its clear they didn't die at sea. But where was the boat from 1985 when the island was "checked" (it evidently wasn't there when they checked the island) and 1988 when they went back to the island and found the boat and Scott Mooreman's remains? And who buried him? What happened to them? And where in the world did all those little pieces of paper with the silver squares in the middle come from?

  • @TheNextLevel11 I like your explanation. It makes a lot of sense. But I still have questions. How did the 'spiritual' person get off the island? And where did this person come across the boat? The island was checked in 1985 and nothing was found. Then in 1988 they found the boat and the remains. What about all those little squares of paper with a tin like square on each one? Still so many unanswered questions!

  • @napachild You're right-there are plenty of unanswered questions in this case.

    However, using speculative logic, it is clear to me that these men didn't die in any storm.

    Keep in mind, they had years of combined nautical and seafaring experience-one of them was a fisherman.

    They would have known how to deal with a store out at sea-at least they might have been able to keep alive.

    Iam convinced that whatever happened to them took place after the storm.

    That's how one of them got buried.

  • Yes, especially when they found Scott Mooreman buried on that island and no trace of the other 4. As Robert Stack said: "Who buried him? Where are the others?" And what was the significance of those little while squares of paper with a silver square in the center of each one? Where would the fishermen have gotten such paper? So many questions!

  • @napachild most likely he was buried by a spiritual person...and the other 4 did not make it to the island. The boat probably floated to land with the dead body of Scott...He was found and buried in honor and respect.

  • @TheNextLevel11 I don't know if honor or respect had anything to do with it.

    Perhaps prgamatism.

    Norwood either died on the island or close to when the boat hit the shores.

    The possibility is that the men might have been murdered-atleast Norwood might have.

    That might partially explain the gap between their disappearance and the sighing of the boat.

    I know this-something happened to these guys that had nothing to do with any storm.

  • Baffling indeed. I'm guessing their boat went down in the storm, Just the events that took place over those ten years is very uncertain.

  • @jerodlasater If the boat went down in the storm, it wouldn't show up lying on a small island but be in the bottom of the pacific.

    These guys may have been swept off course by the storm but they weren't killed by it-not all of them at least.

  • dude, youre right that was pretty remarkable. i wonder what happend to the others.

    i dont remember this one.

  • @briantravelman That's what I was hoping for. That this one slid right under the radar of all of us Unsolved nuts. Not only what happened to the others, but that boat didn't show up on that island until 1988 and the island had been checked back in 1985 and there was no trace of it. And stranger still--what were all those little pieces of paper doing in that grave and what do they mean? Baffling!

  • @briantravelman Sorry the quality isn't that good.  All these are episodes I originally recorded on VHS when they first aired. Then I dubbed them all to DVD and there are still the color distortion and snowy lines from the VHS tapes. Sorry they aren't any better, but they are watchable. Have fun!

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