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  • ...and so Rob Hubbard from 3:17 till 4:00 and especially at 3:52.

  • Sooo many great hooks in this tune!

  • GRONKH!!!

  • GRONKH!!!

  • GRONKH!!!

  • GRONKH!!!

  • GRONKH!!! 

  • : D C64 forever ! : D 

  • Die "Gronkh"-Version gib's hier: snd.sc / oRwfmD (Ohne die Leerstellen)

  • @TechWurst Cool! Hast du noch andere dieser 8-Bit-Gronkh-Lieder? =)

  • @F4NT4ST1X Ich ahbe sie, ich schicke dir eine PN

  • @F4NT4ST1X will ich auch haben, aber find sie nicht wenn sie jemand hat bitte melden :D GRONKH FTW!

  • @kalabrushka Ich ahbe Sie, du bekommst auch ne PN

  • @Maxwell9959

    Ich auch! :D

  • wo ist die version von Gronkh?? kennt sie jemand?

  • @MegaBuel Ich hab sie gefunden, ich schick sie via PN.

  • @TheAffemitWaffe Ich auch, suche aber immer noch die "Gronkh-Version" ;-)

  • @Maxwell9959 Ich habe sie gefunden, bekommst ne PN.

  • nur wegen gronkh hier :D

  • @TheAffemitWaffe ich auch

  • @DerLetzteTod Bekommst per PN, ich hab sie

  • Awesome *__*

  • Best evah....

  • The beginning of this just remains me very much like the film Halloween

  • Great sound! Unbelievable! I love this sound

  • I don't half feel sorry for monty in the pictures of both of these games. The poor mole's being hunted like a dog!

  • Both ZX128 and C64 sound great, but maybe this sounds better on a real C64

  • Wow, how did this guy come from making game music to scientology ;-) Just kidding hehe.

  • Scary

  • masterpiece

  • Far better than its contemporaries. Yeah, I'm looking at you, B-52's.

  • WICKED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • Rob and Ben together... I never made a real sense of the game itself, but the soundtrack ist still great.

    Best regards,

    sys

  • Is it me, or the first 28 seconds sounds like the Helloween theme song?

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  • It's very good, but I don't think it's as memorable as "Monty on the Run".

    Impossamole's theme was rather excellent too.

  • Mine went like that too. Nev.

  • I'd love to see an LP of this game. I used to love wandering around the colourful and surreal platform world listening to this tune in a 7 minute loop. Happy times..

  • @AbsurdistLover "I'd love to see an LP of this game"

    You don't think loading games from cassette was bad enough? ;-)

    Perhaps you could get fast load by speeding it up to 78 RPM? (^_^)

  • GREAT song, I had the fantastic MSX version of the game, however that version in very good

  • Speaking as someone who owned the C64 and Spectrum 128 versions of this game, I'd say the C64 music was much better (and you didn't have to put up with those irritating speech samples - to this day I can't work out what they're saying).

  • It's amazing to believe that a soundchip made in 1982 actually could achieve this and it wasn't even used to it's potential until 1984 when Rob Hubbard started writing music, followed by numerous other music writers, but he was the 1st. It's also amazing to remember that Commodore wanted the C64 as a business machine, this held back games - CBM64 it was called (Commodore Business Machines). This brings back memories and shows my ages, LOL.

  • @pjcnet "Commodore wanted the C64 as a business machine, this held back games - CBM64 it was called (Commodore Business Machines)"

    The CBM name originated in the 1950s when they *did* mainly make business products. AFAIK the C64 was never meant as a business machine though- Commodore launched the business-oriented CBM-II line at the same time as the C64, and abandoned a home version of the CBM-II, strongly confirming that they saw the C64 as their home product with the CBM-II for business.

  • The SID was an amazing chip, way ahead of its time. That said, this particular piece sounded better (and was coded better) on the 128 Spectrum version.

  • was the speccy a modded sid?

    if not it isn't really a fair comparison is it? speccy 128 was released MUCH later than c64 and it's wonderful SID chip

  • No; the Spectrum 128 had an AY-3-8912 sound chip - same design as the Atari ST YM2149 sound chip.

  • The Spectrum 128 came out much later, but had an inferior 3 channel sound chip that was less programmable than the SID chip in the Commodore 64. The next sound chip to beat the C64 was in the Commodore Amiga in my opinion with it's 4 channel digital sound + synthesised sound too.

  • This reminds me of arguments in the school playground circa 1985.

    The SID chip was an amazing piece of custom hardware. But to say that the 128 Speccy's AY chip was 'inferior' is a bit harsh. It was the same chip as the Amstrad range, MSX, and even the 16bit Atari ST. BUT the Spectrum 128 also contained a second chip that synthesised the original 48K Spectrum buzzer, so technically it had 4 channels in total. Listen to the music on 'Chase HQ' for an example of both chips playing together!

  • That's a very good way of putting it. Under certain circumstances, the SID was able to achieve 4 channels given some clever coding and 2 channels producing "similar" sounds. On top of that, it was a hardware error that gave the SID some of it's distinctive character - although it seems harsh to call other chips "inferior" to the SID, it is actually fair. There is no other sound chip in history that is so recognisable. The original SID is king of 8-bit sound :)

  • @astralbee: I don't know what you're hearing that I'm not, but the Spectrum/AY version of this tune is NOT better in any way, shape or form. That's like saying music sounds better from a small AM radio than through a dedicated system.

  • @inphanta : what an appalling comparison. The AY chip and the SID chip were both dedicated sound chips. This C64 version is badly programmed - so many pauses and breaks in the rhythm it is embarrassing. The "drum" sounds are pathetic squelches and the lead sound pierces your soul but not in a good way. Do not mistake my feelings on this piece for an attack on the SID chip which was a wonderful synth ahead of its time. But the Spectrum version of THIS tune was superior in every way. Fact.

  • @astralbee: You may not appreciate my analogy, but it is no more "appalling" than you attempting to posit your own personal opinion as fact. I prefer the SID version in spite of its "imperfections"... this makes me "wrong" does it?

  • @inphanta : I think any rational person reading our exchanges will see that all my comments have been balanced and are from someone who respects both systems. Yes, it is my "opinion" that the AY version of this theme was superior, and you are entitled to argue contrary, except you attempted to close off the discussion to all other possibilities by saying "in no way shape or form"!! Quite sad that you seem to be carrying on the same childish playground arguments about C64 vs Spectrum.

  • @astralbee: Much like you attempting to do the same with your use of "fact" try and make your opinion seem more important or worthwhile then. And how does me preferring this theme equate to me carrying on childish playground arguments? This after all is a page for the C64 theme from Monty on the Run onto which YOU brought up the Spectrum.

  • @inphanta Well I'm sorry that the mere mention of another micro from almost 30 years ago offends you, infanta. I imagine you will be denying the holocaust next.

  • @astralbee: Oh dear...

  • @astralbee in many ways i prefer the spectrum 128 version too - despite my full knowledge that the c64 had a superior sound chip - the AY one sounds clearer somehow.

  • @astralbee Are you completely out of your mind? :-)

  • @freejaytea Out of my mind? No! Listen to the fill-in at 1:00 - it's all herky jerky and out of time. I'm not calling the C64 or it's sound chip - I'm saying that this particular piece was badly programmed compared to the 128 Spectrum counterpart which was note perfect and played smoothly throughout the game.

  • @astralbee Agreed, I never heard the Speccy version but the MSX version was a lot smoother as well..

    But either way still one of my favorite game tunes ever ^^

  • @astralbee "(and was coded better)"

    I wrote that code!

  • Unbelievable what they pulled off with the SID chip. Loved this 20 years ago and still today.

  • A great game, and a good start for the tune but not one of my favourites from the C64 era.

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