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  • 1:09 : Just because the epistle of James does not talk about Jesus's divinity does not mean Jesus isn't God. Sometimes the Apostles don't talk about the divinity of Christ, but rather the morals of Christ to show that they are beneficial to live a spiritual life.The Apostolic Fathers, who were disciples of the 12 apostles, explained The sonship of Christ.

  • @TheYOSHIDUDES this is your way as usual . FORCE your sect beliefs and rejecting.

    keep rejecting. arrogant people will end up in hell.

    GOD sent the Last Prophet Muhammad peace be upon him and corrected the corruption of the Christians and out the stone in its original place.

    keep denying.

  • Jesus never worship God, He is God.

  • @MegaDwell he DID . on the mountain all night. he prostrated on the ground and prayed to GOD.

  • some sweet info here

  • great video thanks

  • Very enjoyable thank you

  • some really good stuff here

  • Jesus Christ is the Son of God, the Messiah of Israel, and the Savior of the World. There will never be another besides Him.

    Praise Him in His holy places. Praise Him in the firmament of His power. Praise Him on account of His mighty acts. Praise Him according to His abundant greatness.

    Let everything that has breath praise the Lord.

  • He IS the son of the God of Israel , Maybe that should tell you something about Israel.

  • genisis says WE when god talks to its self. More than one part

  • are you that desperate ore what

  • more than four marys, Jesus has blood brothers and sisters together with step brothers and sisters, he is God, the holy spirit, and himself. He died for everyone's sins yet every child is born with a sin, Man, whats going on here?

  • The book of acts calls Jesus Gods servant. This is propaganda trying to take things out of context and the same document tells people to baptize in the name of the father, son and holy spirit. Its called the Didache, look it up.

  • Jesus had a brother ???? wait a minute ... that just adds another twist in the mystery of trinity. You have God, the holy spirit , the son, and now the son's brother which means God has had TWO sons or else how can they both be brothers? Was the brother elder than Jesus, if yes, How was Mary virgin then? If the brother was younger than Jesus than who was his biological father if not the God himself? So Jesus technically had two dads? Something isn't right with this entire trinity story at all.

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  • @WoundsOfPerfection

    So who is the biological father of Jesus' siblings?

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  • @DrDhakna Jesus had no brothers from the Virgin Mary this is Orthodox Dogma. Jesus's brothers are the brothers so his aunt Mary.. When the Virgin Mary was conceived the Lord commanded Juachim (her father) to give her away to the Temple where she would serve as a virgin till 14 years of age. When Virgin Mary left her house her parents had another daughter and they named her Mary also.. so 2nd Mary is the Sister of Virgin Mary and she is in the Gospel at the Cross also. (Cont)

  • @DivineAegis02

    Another Mary? Are you trying to bring another twist to the story?

  • @DrDhakna There are more then 4 Marys in the Gospels.

    Mary the Virgin (Mother of Christ)

    Mary the Sister of Virgin Mary (Jesus Aunt)

    Mary Magdalene (The repented prostitute)

    Mary the wife of Clopas (Brother of St Joseph)

    Reference: John 19:25

  • @DrDhakna 2 - Also Jesus had brothers from Joseph the Carpenter.. Joseph was married early in his age and had a son named James.. Josephs wife died and he later won the lottery to take care of the Virgin Mary and his sons from his older wife became also called Jesus step brothers.

    So Jesus did not have brothers from the Virgin Mary but had brothers from His aunt and from his care father Joseph.

  • Matthew 19:17

    17 So He said to him, “Why do you call Me good? No one is good but One, that is, God. But if you want to enter into life, keep the commandments.

    Gods truth is in the bible and in other texts too. Attacking Christianity serves no purpose. People dont read the bible but I do so I know the truth. A tree is known by its fruit,a good tree does not bear bad fruit and a bad tree can not bear good. So what kind of tree are you? The fruit of love,light or the fruit of hate and darkness?

  • Jesus,Yahushuah was many things to many people, a person writes what is relevant of their self and all ancient writings should be seen in that way.The writings of His other disciples should not be ignored. The bible does not say Jesus is God

  • What if the bible and the Koran both have mistakes? Then what? Maybe both have truth and both have false marks from the pen of the scribe. What if the Koran left out the sinless life of Yahushuah/Jesus or what about the the fact that He was the spotless lamb of God sacrificed to the devil to free all mankind from sin and the law of death. He was a profit and The son,the only son to ever keep The Fathers word and truth.God is the Father and Yahushuah is His only begotten son,its beautiful,LOVE

  • A dog gives birth to a dog and a bird to a bird. Are we Gods children?To some Yahushuah/Jesus is a profit, to some He is the messiah and to others He is the only begotten son of God. To what end does any religion lead to? God is love and this I'm sure of so if a person denies one way or another in doctrine because of ignorance but has love for the light of love isn't he better than a man who hates others because he is also ignorant? We are all ignorant in some way so love don't hate.

  • jesus doesn't claim to be devine at all. The christian bible and church has spoken falsely about god. Guess the truth will reveal itself slowly but surely.

  • all bibles were written by MEN, for MEN, to benefit MEN!!!!

    they are all a hoax, christianity, islam, judaeism! its all a hoax!!!

    to control the masses, to keep the rich rich. to keep the poor poor, to stop human beings from finding there own inner power!

  • keep seeking for the truth ,if you really believe in it, God, who is One,the Eternal Refuge,He neither begets nor is born,Nor is there to Him any equivalent.,..will surely guide you to it

    peace

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  • @tonganfoilole6

    ve you ever thought that trinity itself came into Christianity with the Greek and Roman theological patrimony, cuz they did have trinities in their belief too??

    do you even know that Jesus never even called himself as a "Christian" ?? even in the bible itself he says " people of the way",do you know that even Jesus is a name he never heard of, cuz his name was hebru pronounced "Yahshua"

  • @tonganfoilole6 then if people are nt supposed to believe what they see,how did you believe in Jesus peace be open him as God himself??

    why you think others are made blind by the devil but not you, why you re so sure, ve you ever thought that it might be you who is made blind and not others?

    wasnt the video so clear with that church father, and the book and the people who made the documentary??

  • Pple; don't believe everything u see; this man thinks he know it all, but he doesn't know anything or understand anything about the bble..Don't even think that Islam is the truth,cause islam is from hell, everything they teach is from hell..If u don't believe inthe bble, then u don't believe in the true word of God. So many evil pple think they know it all, they don't realise how the devil make them blind and deaf to see and hear of the truth..so just keep yr little poor understanding to yrself.

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  • Islam is war against Jews/ Christians sura 9:29-9:30 which states wage war with those whom the scriptures have been given...

    The Christians say the Messiah is the Son of God, how they sound like infidels of old, God do battle with them

    The Lord God Almighty is the God of Israel who took on the human form that he created and God became known as the Son of God, for his temporary body was that of a human. When Jesus returns as God Almighty all will acknowledge he had been crucified Rev 1:7-8

  • The original Bible in Jerusalem proves that the Bible was never tampered with as it is the same Bible that the Western Christians use only the Bible in Jerusalem is in its original language,Greek. Muslims are so afraid of being called a hypocrite, that they become blind to reality. It is the Quran that contradicts itself and the Bible.

    Sura 9:30 states God do battle with the Christians who sound like infidels of old for they say the Messiah is the Son of God when the Son of God is God incarnate

  • Read the Bible...then Read the Quran...both are Holy books in Islam, but the Bible has been rewrriten and editted by MAN for centuries. Dont say anything, Dont Listen to anybody, Dont watch video, Dont follow the internet.. Get the Books and READ, this is for your own sake, Inshaallah Allah will guide you, it is the job of Muslims to pass on the message of Islam!...Please just read the Bible (old testiment/new testiment) then read the Qu'ran with an open heart...This is for yourself !

  • @atown2k3 The Quran was Not in Muhammad's hand when he died, the Quran came into existence by his successors who collected anything from anyone then burnt all the writings which explains why the Quran contradicts itself. The Bible remains the Word of God without needing Islamic approval or acceptance because God himself honors his promises he made in the Bible.The Quran contradicts the Bible because Muhammad didn't know the Bible and because Muhammad was never a prophet of God

  • Islam es la verdad. El Coran es la verdad. Jesus es el mensajero de Alah. Mohamad es el ultimo mensajero de Alah

  • Islam is war against Jews, Christians and all non Muslims. Muslims are only allowed to attack other religions for they are forbidden to question their own, lest they doubt and become an apostate and Islam is the only religion that kills apostates.

    Muslims parrot the teachings of the Quran, that says wage war with the Christians for saying Jesus is the Son of God sura 9:29-30 and because Muslims say Jesus is not the Son of God, they reveal they are the Anti Christ as defined in 1 John 2:22

  • @BonjourNuit120 Islamic war is based on defence against an aggressor, one of our main teachings is to respect our neighbours...dont be sucked into the political state we are in now, just Read the Qu'ran yourself instead of learning from what you hear please. Have you read the Full Bible (new and old testiment)..Can I ask if you found this the most beautiful book you have ever read..the instructions from God..but its been tainted by MAN hands and rewritten for years..Qu'ran= Original script!

  • @atown2k3 Islam is war based on the Quran that prescribed war against infidels and hypocrites sura 66:9.

    Since Islam began in Arabia, Muslims invaded nearby nations in quest of power, spoils and female slaves and Muslims continues invading other nations, as with Lebanon, Sudan, Nigeria etc.

    It is Islam that is the aggressor for no one invaded Arabia. No one threatened Islam but since Islam began over 200 Million people died at the hands of Muslims

  • @atown2k3 as to neighbors: the Quran states wage war with the infidels as are your neighbors sura 9:123 so stop deceiving yourself. Islam is war, it uses God to conquer nations.

    Sura 2:285 states God give us victory over the infidel nations. Muslims await until they become the majority, then they attack, abduct, ransom and apply sura 5:33 as evident throughout Africa, infidels are to be slain, crucified, or have alternate hands and feet cut off.

  • @atown2k3 the Quran not only contradicts itself but the Quran contradicts the Bible as well. Since no prophet was sent after the Messiah as only the Messiah is to return to destroy Satan in which Satan's hiding place is Islam. Then learn honesty because you will be punished for the sins of Islam should you remain a Muslim. Run from Islam as if you were running from pure hell. For the Bible remains the Word of God but the Quran uses God to do evil.

  • Have you read the Quran or Bible?..dont mimic what you have heard or seen, DO your own reading!

    Islam is a religion of peace..aggression is use in order to defend oneself.

    Surah Al-Baqarah 193- but if they cease, then there is to be no aggression except against the oppressors.

    If you think Islam is evil because of what your hear on the news go for it and be ignorant...but when i see terrorist acts in the name of Islam where innocents are dieing, i dont see these terrorist as muslims!

  • @BonjourNuit120 The bible is a Holy Book to me but when it has been rewritten for thousands of years by MAN, it has been tainted and corrupted, this in my opinion is the work of the devil splitting the servants of God into two!

  • Allah loves u

  • duh! what's secret about the didache? it's even available as a penguin classic. one might consider that there are more than one book in the bible because they do contain different things. and it is not really "servant" that jesus is called in the didache but "slave." it was luther, not the church, who wanted to exclude james and judge.

  • Christians claim that Jesus died because of their sins.. This is called inheritance of sins.. How Christians can accept his is really mind-blogging..

    Suppose a person steals a car.. Should we jail his descendents too? Hell No!

    Nowhere in the Bible Jesus said " I come to be cruficied 4 ur sins.. or anything like that"...

    Instead in Mark 14:36

    And he said, Abba, Father, all things are possible unto thee; take away this cup from me: nevertheless not what I will, but what as thou wilt..

  • @johnmakota

    What does this mean to you?

    John 10:15

    As the Father knoweth me, even so know I the Father: and I lay down my life for the sheep. Matthew 26:28

    For this is my blood of the new testament, which is shed for many for the remission of sins.

  • Exactly...Why would Jesus who has been sent down to guide mankind be allowed to be crucified, to be crucified is to be cursed? and for Christians to believe that God would allow Jesus to be crucified that would invalidate his meaning in being sent down to Earth. Muslims believe Allah has saved Jesus from this plot created by the Jews...Christians please just do the readings yourself..most of you just sit in Church and blindly believe, at least read your own bible from beginning to end!

  • Interesting that so many Muslims have made it their lives' bane to try to disprove the two natures of Christ. If their religion was so accurate and infallible, then why isn't it good enough on it's own merit? Instead, they resort to using cheap techniques like that of Jehovah's Witnesses or Mormons to obtain a point.

  • Sounds like Jewish Lies to me. Jews are good at telling lies. They've been doing it for thousands of years and they still do it today. Money is the greatest LIE of the Jews. Lies is how they maintain power and control. Cowards.

  • this is not true the quran is not a book of god it is devilsatan sent the quran in fire....

  • @todobagon This is true, my friend. Do some research.

  • Matthew-ch-26-vs-63 (author speaking)

    But Jesus kept silent. So the high priest said to him: “by the living god I put you under oath to tell us whether you are Christ the son of god. 64- Jesus said to him: “you yourself said it. Yet I say to you men, from henceforth you will see the son of man sitting at the right hand of power and coming on the clouds of heaven.

  • @culi472 I'm saying that God, Jesus are the same! God came down in human form to be with us and die for our sins because you do know that wayy wayyy back in the bible days. like before Jesus came to earth. People died if they did any kind of sin, like say you commited adultry, you wuold die just like that. But then God is merciful so he came down in human form to die for every sin and bad thing we have committed and took it all upon himself on the cross.

  • @culi472 I dare You. To have a read of the bible, what have you got to lose? oh and when i started reading it, John is a good place to start :) And don't get a bible that is like the old kind of one where it uses all that olden language. And then have a read of the Psalms. But start on John :) And before you read it just pray to urself asking God to reveal himself to you :)

  • This is what we Muslims try to tell you Christians that the bible was manipulated and Jesus(A.S) is not God 

  • Jesus claiming to be God?

    If Jesus Is In Fact God Then Who Is Jesus Praying Or Supplicating To? Does He Go On To Thank Himself?

    11:41 Then they took away the stone from the place where the dead was laid. And Jesus lifted up his eyes, and said, Father, I thank thee that thou hast heard me.

    11:42 And I knew that thou hearest me always: but because of the people which stand by I said it, that they may believe that thou hast sent me.

    John 11:41-42

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  • Jesus Is the Messiah and he is coming soon. It also says in the bible that people will be blinded and not know the truth about God and that is what is happening here. Yous need to believe and have faith in God and he will show you great things and give you life and joy. He loves each one of us and wants a real true relationship with us so that we may spend eternal life with him. All you need to do is ask him to come into your life and he will. Respond to his Calling. Jesus Christ loves you.

  • @xxJennah95xx your using the new bible to prove this point..not the oldest one...lol...one of the writer's (Paul) never even meet jesus, yet he still wrote a few parts of the bible??...WOW

  • @jaw118 the bible made in man not god but the words of the bible is true and jesus is a son of god

  • It also says in the bible when Jesus was having his last meal with his disciples he asked "If you really knew me, you would know my Father as well". Whe Philip questioned him on it, certian he had no idea who his Father was, Jesus got even clearer: "Dont you know me... even after i have been among you such a long time? Anyone who has seen me has seen the Father. How can you say, Show us the Father?" John 14 :7-9.

  • Jesus IS the Son of God and is also God. It says in the scriptures :

    John 14:20: "On that day you will realize that I am in my Father, and you are in me, and I am in you."

    So Jesus and God are 'One'. God came down to earth in human form to save our sins and have an intimate relationship with us. So when Jesus comes back we will see they are One.

  • issa("jesus") was not white or black!! nobody will know for sure but from my research he was arab like

  • if you like the teachings of issa("jesus") read the quran. i spoke to a convert and he enlightend me about some things i did not ever think about like the cross and the bible...

  • They have a white Jesus on the wall@6:04, but in the book of james, the picture of james was a black man @6:26! i wonder if anyone noticed!

  • Proof Jesus is the son of God, I am just stating facts here!!

  • On the 31 of december 1999 the freemasons organised a helicopter to lift a new golden capstone and place it on the Great Pyramid, but at the last minute the Egyptian Government canceled it, because Jesus is the chief cornerstone is the capstone, he is the first and the last, he is the beginning and the end, he is the Alpha and the Omega, the Author and the finisher, he is lord of lords, and Kings of Kings.

  • Bible, Peter chapter 2 verse 7, Unto you therefore which believe he is precious: but unto them which be disobedient, the stone which the builders disallowed, the same is made the head of the corner.

  • the first one reads, when Moses was given "the Ten Commandments", a few more inches on you will see the birth of Jesus Christ, and a few more, you will see the Crucifixion of our Lord Jesus Christ, read on and you will see the date for world war one and world War two. You can read many things written there. The writing stops at the year 2000.

  • As you enter the Great Pyramid you will see the ascending passage, which takes you to the Kings Chamber, you will also see a symbol of the Cross, and the open coffin which represents the "Resurrection". If you look down you will see the descending passage which takes you to the pit. In the Kings Chamber, It is like a history book in stone, an inch equals a year,

  • The great Great Pyramid.

  • UPC Codes Contain the number "666"

    v=VdY5ghcnaw0

  • Satanic United Nations Symbolism, if you look carefully, you can see 666 on the wall, watch-

    v=Bihccfayq6Y

  • Revelation 13:17-18, 17 and that no one may buy or sell except one who has the mark or[a] the name of the beast, or the number of his name. 18 Here is wisdom. Let him who has understanding calculate the number of the beast, for it is the number of a man: His number is 666.

  • The Comforter Jesus spoke of was the Holy Spirit who filled the Apostles while they gathered together on Pentecost. While gathered together they all began speaking in foreign tongues. The Comforter/Holy Spirit also imparted the ways of God on the Apostles that day. The Comforter was NOT Mohammed. There is no mention of any Allah, Mohammed, or any prophet to follow Jesus in any Christian or Jewish Holy Books.

  • Muslims often deliberately claim that Jesus spoke of Mohammed as that prophet who would follow him, or that Mohammed was the Comforter Jesus promised would come. Both of these are more Islamic lies. Jesus did warn us that false prophets (Mohammed) with false Gospels (Qur'an) would follow Him, and try to deceive many.

  • @centauri2300 lol actually years ago, a devoted Christian told me something else. He said the reason we disagree with Muslims is that Jesus didn't say "Mohammed"... he said "Ahmed"......

    So which ones of you Christians is correct?? lol

  • @Circle777, there is no word of muhammed in the Bible, Jesus loves all people, but he hates Islam.

  • @centauri2300 did Jesus himself tell you he hates Islam or are you making this thing up?

    Let me guess: you ARE making this shit up ;)

  • @Circle777, why are all these Muslims countrys having floods earthquakes and so on, because they say Jesus is not the Son of God. Look at the pakistan floods, where is Allah now.

  • @centauri2300 LMFAO!! That is what I was talking about when I advised you to shut up, since you have no answer! The more you talk, the more stupid shit comes out of your mouth, further hurting your religion.

    Japan, 1181

    A famine wipes out at least 100,000 people.

    Netherlands, 1228

    Estimate: 100,000 lives lost from the flooding after some dykes broke.

    China, 1290

    Earthquake takes at least 100,000 people.

    so fucking what? LOL! Dude! You are killing me here! Stop for your own good!

  • @Circle777, Umm, actually your wrong. In Matthew Chapter 24, Jesus predicts that before the great tribulation, "There shall be earthquakes in many various places". Already in 2010 there was a 7.0 in Haiti, 8.8 in Chile, 6.9 in China, 7.2 in California and a 7.4 in Indonesia. Not to mention the hundreds of other earthquakes that the news media fails to recognize since they fear it will cause nationwide panic. Try thinking before criticizing

  • @centauri2300 LOL WTF are you talking about now?!

    What does that have to do with your bogus claim that earthquakes come to Muslim countries as punishment? LOL Dude.. you've officially lost your mind! LMFAO!

  • @Circle777, I just told you Jesus predicted earthquakers, not only to Muslims country's, but you have to admit, Muslims are having a hard time. Bad weather and and earthquakers will continue. 

  • @centauri2300 I don't fucking care if Jesus predicted earthquakes or not!

    Quran too predicted many of the natural disasters that are happening today. So what? It also predicted that there will come a time where muslims will be great in number but very weak in faith and occupied by others.. happening in our age.

    The Quran also gave detailed information about emberyology & how human beings are shaped step by step WAY before science discovered it! So what?

    Both books predict... so what?

  • @centauri2300 point is, there are several DIFFERENT versions of the Bible, contradicting each other... while only one version of the Quran.

    If I had to choose between them, I'll go with the one unchanged book that's for sure. At least its claim that there is an old first version of the Bible with no Trinity turned out to be true... Other than that, both books are very similar.

  • @Circle777, repent, and Jesus will forgive you.

  • @centauri2300 My friend.. take my advise: go bring a christian who is more knowledgable than you for us to have an objective debate with.

    Although he still won't be able to provide logical explanation to the contradicting bible versions other that they were edited.... but I'm certain he'll do considerably better than you..

    You are NOT presenting Christianity in a good form.

  • @Circle777, well, I am not using the f word, so you are not presenting Islam in a good form. I am doing better than you, you know nothing!!!

    P.S. ANSWER MY QUESTION.

  • @centauri2300 I am not a muslim, idiot.. I am an abnoxious atheist... thought I told you that from the beginning. And you are not fooling anybody by avoiding the main question which I've asked you over 10 times:

    What are your explanations for the contradictions I've showed you in the video?

    Running around in circles won't help you. Answer this first, then we continue. Otherwise, like I advised you: Bring another christian who knows better than you. You FAILED ;)

  • @Circle777, was Jesus a Jew.

  • @Circle777, if I am killing you there, that is a good thing LOL.

  • @Circle777, you studied all religions, can I ask you a question, where did the Hindu religion come from, and is Jesus a Jew?

  • @centauri2300 Besides, what are you still doing here? lol Where are your explanations of all of these contradictions?? Everyone witnessed your weakness... You've got no logical explanation!

    Either answer this if you know or, for the sake of Christianity, don't talk. You are only adding up more damage to the already shattered image of Christians..

  • @Circle777, or, where is this so-called allah.

  • @Circle777, I think you got that wrong, you should have said the shattered image of Islam, my comments prove it below.

  • @Circle777, stop all this lol lol, I know you are not laughing. You fail fundamentally.

  • Christianity and Judaism is heavily corroborated by many different prophets and apostles of God. Additionally, Christianity and Judaism abound with many many miracles witnessed by throngs of people. Physical evidence such as 5,300 original manuscripts confirming the New Testament (Injil) are still here to read.

  • Christians were told in the Bible to be on-guard and that the Antichrist will not only just be a man who appears shortly before the Lord Jesus, but also a movement which denies that Jesus of Nazareth is the Son of God. Islam is adamant in its denial of the deity of Jesus. It is easy to overlook, but followers of Islam place their eternal salvation entirely on the whimsical sayings of only one single man - Mohammed.

  • Matthew 7:15 "Beware of false prophets who come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly are ravaging wolves. 15:9 They worship Me in vain, teaching as doctrines the commands of men." 15:14 Leave them alone! They are blind guides. And if the blind guide the blind, both will fall into a pit." 24:24

    False messiahs and false prophets will arise and perform great signs and wonders to lead astray, if possible, even the elect.

  • Note: Begotten means "come from" without necessarily being created. Before the beginning of time, Jesus, who is also called the Word of God and the Logos, came from God the Father. Logos means the divine Word of God; the second person in the Trinity (incarnate in Jesus). God is Spirit and loving light! Exactly how Jesus and the Father are one is a mystery. Try and picture two spot lights focused on the same spot. These lights merge as one.

  • no one knows the truth the book was fucking written 23 times!!!

  • I have to laugh at all these masonic videos on youtube.

  • great video..

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  • @centauri2300 hmmmm.... nope. Islam based on my extensive studies and research, teaches that Jesus was a prophet yes.. but it also teaches that he never claimed divinity .. just a human being who is blessed and certainly not the son of God...becaue God is divine

    It also teaches that the original Bible has been re-written to suit the needs of corrupt people back in the days.

    Interesting video. So all these centuries Muslims were right and Chritians thought they were fucked up? Looooool!

  • @Circle777, Jesus said, I and my Father are one. Bible, John 10:30. In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God...All things were made by him...He was in the world, and the world was made by him, and the world knew him not...And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us John 1:1, 3, 10, 14

  • @centauri2300 my friend.. you are not quoting from the old testaments. Problem is you are using a reference which is the same topic of debate... it has been rewritten... there was no mention of Jesus being God or devine in the first version. Just a prophet.

    I'm not here to convince you nor can you convince me. It is almost impossible. I've studied religions for years and think they are good teachings but not necessarily from God. But if I were to choose one, I'll go with Islam for sure.

  • @Circle777, I am laughing so hard here, the Qur'an said the world is flat.

  • @centauri2300 Quran teaches the world is flat? LOOOOOOL! I've heard this one before... but I'm sorry to tell you, it is just a lie made to fool people whom haven't read the book. Have you read the book from an objective point of view? Didnt' think so... nor are you ready..

    I know it is hard to accept the truth, but everyone knows the Bible has been rewritten over and over with several sections ommitted and others added. They pick what they like and erase the rest. Sad truth.

  • @Circle777, The Bible, The number of translations cannot affect the original." The Faithful Translation (1842)

  • @centauri2300 we are not talking about the number of translations of the Bible.. we are talking about the different VERSIONS... it is not a matter of translation, but CHANGING....

    You want me to prove more?

  • @centauri2300 this is only the tip of the iceberg.. watch this video and pay attention to the second half of it... the 10 commandments:

    watch?v=8RV46fsmx6E

    The video is by an abnoxious atheist I know, but forget about the miracles.. suppose they exist.... focus on the INCONSISTENCY of the diff versions of the Bible... you will know things you weren't taught unless you do further research on your own.

  • @Circle777, The Bible said the earth is round, The Bible says 3 times that earth is round. Read this: Job 22:14 Thick clouds cover Him, so that He cannot see, And He walks above the circle of heaven.' Prov 8:27 When He prepared the heavens, I was there, When He drew a circle on the face of the deep,

  • @Circle777,Isa 40:22 It is He who sits above the circle of the earth, And its inhabitants are like grasshoppers, Who stretches out the heavens like a curtain, And spreads them out like a tent to dwell in.

    Circle is also translated as sphere in Hebrew.

  • @Circle777, This is where the Qurain says the earth is flat, Sura Taha (20:53) Who has made earth for you like a bed (spread out); and has opened roads (ways and paths etc.) for you therein; and has sent down water (rain) from the sky. And We have brought forth with it various kinds of vegetation.

  • @centauri2300 my friend.. this is misunderstanding in the translation of that quote from Quran... if you read the arabic quote, there was NO "like a bed".... it was merely spread for you (people to be able to walk on it and such) & has nothing to do with the "shape" of the earth.

    Why haven't you brought this quote for example "wal ardo bada zaleka dahaha" which means "the earth which he then made an egg".. which is scary because it was recently that scientists discovered earth was egg shaped

  • @Circle777, The earth which he then made an egg, man, are you tripping or something, the scientists will say anything to make sure they get their money. The Bible said the earth is round, and that is the truth, point made.

  • @centauri2300 LOL! OMG! you just made youself look so bad man. Dude.. the earth is OVAL.. it is NOT a perfect sphere! So the scientists are lying now??? were they Muslim scientists who discovered that the earth was OVAL?

    Go read Quran: surat "AlNazeat"... it is where that verse I quoted came from.. the same exact word as it is... So I used your same point of debate to dismiss yours and turn it around ;)

    Like I said, perhaps those prophets were just lucky... we don't know...

  • @centauri2300 the same scientists that said the earth was round back then, now say it is oval... hmmmm... so you accept their first word because it matches that's of the Bible that has been rewritten over and over, but dismiss their new discovery because... well, because it matches that's of the Quran???

    Dude.. you gotta do better than that..... forget about Quran... let's see if the Bible is the same and hasn't been manipulated like you claim.

  • @Circle777, I don't believe what scientists say, I believe what the Bible said, the earth is round!!.

  • @centauri2300 OMG! This is a hilarious video:

    watch?v=RB3g6mXLEKk

    If this doesn't convince you that the Bible has been rewritten over and over with each version contradicting the other, nothing will. (verses quoted are clearly written down including the Bible versions they came from).

    Enjoy! ;)

  • @Circle777, LOL, that video you posted is so immature, it is easy to see, this video is taking the Bible out-of-context.

  • @Circle777, no, this is hilarious, this proves how stupid people are who believe everything scientists say, watch-

    v=80v9fa5sZXc

  • @centauri2300 have you watched my above two videos first before sending yours??? we can both spam videos all we want here but it is meaningless if neither of us watch that's of the other.

    My two videos above contain undeniable evidence that the Bible has been manipulated. Especially the second hilarious video. If you STILL think the Bible is the same and perfect (literal word of God) after watching this, let me know

    I'll then have to consult a psychiatrist to learn to deal with your case.

  • @Circle777, Quran, Sura An-Naziat (79:30) And after that He spread the earth; These verses would only be applicable to a flat earth belief!!!!

  • @centauri2300 lol you are hilarious! I've already explained to you that in An-Naziat it is clearly stated "wal ardo bada zaleka DAHAHA"... Dahaha = means made it an egg..... and we've already moved back to the Bible contradictions topic.

    But I don't blame you for returning back to the old topic. You couldn't handle the truth in these videos.. the main subject of our discussion ;)

    Plus: whether or not Quran was fault (and I'm an atheist), that doesn't mean the Bible wasn't rewritten ;)

  • @Circle777, This Sura below shows how Mohammed had a complete misunderstanding of the Christian Gospel, and what the Trinity is. Apparently, Mohammed is referring to Christians. But his error here is that both Christians and Jews believe there is only One God. Mohammed also mistakenly thought the Trinity was the Father, Son and Mother (Mary).

  • @centauri2300 Islam doesn't teach Trinity. They don't believe in it. They don't believe Jesus was actually crusified... he was raised to God. Quran teaches that true Christians and Jews (those who follow the old unedited versions) are going to paradise too.

    I don't know where you bring your info from. Again, you are AVOIDING answering my question... what do you explain the contradictions of the diff versions of the Bible?

  • @Circle777, Blessed be the God of Abraham (Ibrahim), whose words are perfect in truth and incorruptible! (Sura 6:115; 10:65; 6:34). In Sura 5:48 we are told that Mohammed is given the Qur'an as a confirmation of the bible; that is - it is meant to prove the bible's authenticity....

  • @centauri2300 yes, he was given the Quran as a confirmation of the Bible... but you are intentionally forgetting that the Bible referred to in the Quran, is NOT the Bible you are following now.... yours is edited.....

    Muslims believe in the old unedited version... you know, that one locked up in the Vatican church... like the one this above video is referring to... your new edited version contains SOME of the things that muslims agree with.

    You understand now?

  • @Circle777, Islam is built on subtle lies which have been concocted by evil men in order to maintain cohesion and discipline within their robber band. Islam is the only religion that says that Jesus did not die on the cross. Islam denies this historical fact about Jesus which therefore negates the salvation given us by the Son of God's painful death and miraculous resurrection from the dead.

  • @centauri2300 my friend.. you either have a very low IQ and don't get it, or that this is your way of admitting defeat.... attacking the other side while ignoring the main question...

    I don't fucking care whether or not Quran was right or wrong... point is, they beat you this time...

    the Bible they believed in, turned out to be true.. it is the one in this video.... that the bible IS infact rewritten and heavily edited. Trinity became the main teaching while it wasn't in the old one.

  • @Circle777, Muslims are wrongly taught about the Trinity. The Trinity has nothing to do with how many gods there are. It only has to do with God's nature and the three persons that make up the one God. Christians know there is only one God, but this God has 3 persons (Father, Son, Holy Spirit). This is a mystery. "Can a dog understand the nature of man?" Likewise, we only have proofs of God's nature.

  • @Circle777, Even the Jewish Sanhedrin (High Religious Court) in Jerusalem admits Jesus died there. In addition to the writers of the 4-Gospels, the Jewish Babylonian Talmud (Sanhedrin 43a) from the Tannaitic Period recorded: "On the eve of Passover Yeshu was hanged".... This means on a wooden cross.

  • @Circle777, Sura 5:73-75, "They do blaspheme who say: Allah is one of three..."

    Again, below Mohammed attests to the Torah's authority. So, for Muslims to claim the Bible was corrupted is an argument already lost....Blessed be the God of Abraham (Ibrahim), whose words are perfect in truth and incorruptible! (Sura 6:115; 10:65; 6:34).

  • @Circle777, Muslims have no choice but to believe in the Christian Bible and the Apostles who wrote it. The Qur'an forbids anyone, on pain of shameful punishment, from making distinctions between the authority of the apostles and prophets of God, or from choosing between God's words. No one is permitted to believe in part and reject a part. Those who presume to do so, it says, are infidels in reality (Sura 4:150-52; 2:89; 2:139; 42:15; 29:46-47)

  • @centauri2300 The old bible discovered in this video above, is EXACTLY the one that muslims claim to be the real Bible.. no trinity.. no divinity of Jesus.. he is only a prophet... God has no siblings and shouldn't have... he is divine....etc.

    How the fuck were they able to find an exact copy of the Bible that Muslims believe in... ?? were the people in the video muslims pretending to be christians and playing a prank on us???

    Still confuses the hell out of me..... Christians busted

  • @Circle777, Also, A pagan historian by the name of Thallus, who lived shortly after the resurrection of Christ (about A.D. 52) wrote concerning a miraculous darkness that covered the earth at the Passover of A.D. 32 and attempted to explain it as an eclipse of the sun..

  • @Circle777, Islam claims to be a religion of "the book" which would have one believe it is a continuance of that book God revealed to his Jewish Prophets. If it were, it would not deny what is in that "book". If it were, it would know the name of the true God is not Allah, but Yahweh.

  • @centauri2300 again.. you are not reading my answers... you've asked the same question over and over and I've already answered it... read my above answer. Your new Bible ISN'T the same old Bible Muslims believe in.

    The real Bible according to Muslims, is the one referred to in the video above. Got it, thickhead?

  • @Circle777, the video above is full of lies.