Cool snake I wonder how similair it is to other rattlesnakes and if you can turn the skin into boots like other snakes. if it was near my house I would probably kill it or else my cat would mess with it and killed or my dog would.
I don't care what anybody says. A rattlesnake that is that size is potentially very dangerous. It's a hard-hitting snake that looks like it could inject a hefty dose of potent hemotoxic venom. I value my life and certainly would leave something like that alone if I saw it out in the woods.
in ridgecres california he was in his outside kennel and i walked out there to feed him but he was dead and there was blood coming out of his mouth so the vet said it was a mohave green he was a 6 yr. old german shorthair
Wow that is sad, sorry to hear that. I hear that some dogs appear to be frightened by snakes and stay out of striking range, while other dogs don't seem to know any better and attack snakes like they would any small animal.
Of course, even the most deadly snake in the world, the black mamba, isnt going to kill you if you get medical attention quickly enough. So this dismissal you make of cotalus is also true for all snakes. But if you are bitten by one of these guys, dont think its not necessary to go to the hospital quickly. It would be a miracle if you survive.
uh, concerning this argument, the US is home to 3 of the most venomous snakes in the viper family, the poison of which is quickly fatal to an adult human. I dont really see why this matters or why it should be suprising. The most venomous and the most deadly snakes of course are still in africa.
You have beautiful timbers in PA, but I don't think they can be classified as "deadly." None of the venomous species in the U.S. are in that category. They are only deadly to their prey and not humans.
Nope, people have died from timber bites before and many other species in the US. Although most bites are not deadly, they can be without treatment. A handful of people have even died from copperhead bites, although they're the least venomous (LD 50 potency) in the US and not usually considered deadly.
Most dog attacks do not result in death, but dogs kill more people in the U.S. yearly than venomous snakes. So by your reasoning dogs are deadly, so are horses, cows, and even cats. Timbers and Copperheads certainly have the potential to be dangerous, but deadly? Goody003 is right, our native snakes really fall short of deserving to be labeled deadly. The ratio of people envenomed vs. people that actually die is quite small.
Most US bites aren't lethal, but not because the snakes aren't deadly -- it's because #1 we have access to great medical treatment and #2 we don't have to work barefoot so close to snakes like Asian, African, and Indian workers (by comparison, we're always in contact with dogs, cats, horses, etc). Australia has the most "deadly" venoms (by LD50 rating) but few deaths for the same reasons. Americans survive most exotic bites here, too, but not because the exotic hots aren't deadly.
A timber example from my state: a young man made the mistake of picking up a timber rattlesnake in 2005 with his bare hands. He suffered a vascular bite (see my "unlucky" comment above), which is the worst kind you can receive. That, coupled with the fact that the car got a flat tire on the way to the hospital, earned this person the distinction of being the first person in 25 years to die in Oklahoma from venomous snakebite. Let me repeat that because it's important: 25 years!
I agree that you can die from venomous snakebite in the U.S. but you have to be extremely unlucky or totally inattentive to your symptoms. LD50 for our native pitvipers is essentially meaningless due to a couple of reasons, one of which you mention below. First, they're not so venomous that you have no time to get medical treatment. Second, we have lots of hospitals and plenty of antivenin to treat bites. To me, LD50 for U.S. pitvipers is only significant if you're a small rodent. :)
It seems as though my comments are a tad out of order. I'm sure you can figure out how they read.
Anyway, my point is this - yes, they're potentially dangerous, but I can't see calling them "deadly." If being able to possibly lead to your death, then we can say the exact same thing about humans, which account for far more human deaths than timber rattlesnakes. Human beings are the only animal I fear and with very good reason.
You guys keep talking about LD50's. The majority (at least a good deal) of venomous snakes have evolved venoms to kill mice. Therefore LD50's show how efficient a venom is in killing mice. There is no way an experienced scientist can use those figures to directly relate to humans. Mice and humans are very dissimilar in size, genetics, and metabolism. If we used LD50's based on elephants, goats, or salamanders they would not be the same as they are with mice.
cool first veiw and comment this si a cool looking snkae =] im 13 and i was golfing and i saw a gopher snake it was very freindly i realy like your videos
Cool snake I wonder how similair it is to other rattlesnakes and if you can turn the skin into boots like other snakes. if it was near my house I would probably kill it or else my cat would mess with it and killed or my dog would.
valstar1000 9 months ago
Dangerous or not, nobody can deny that this is an incredibly beautiful animal.
88polywog 10 months ago
dude;.. hes telling you to go away listen to it it can kill you in minutes
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hippie6669 1 year ago
my grandpas dog is totally scared of the tniest of snakes he has to kill the snake but the dog is not affraid of anything else
JAKEAROO72 2 years ago
I don't care what anybody says. A rattlesnake that is that size is potentially very dangerous. It's a hard-hitting snake that looks like it could inject a hefty dose of potent hemotoxic venom. I value my life and certainly would leave something like that alone if I saw it out in the woods.
vogtste 2 years ago
Leaving them alone is the best idea.
rugbyman2000 2 years ago
a mohave green rattler killed my dog last week....
rcooper95 2 years ago
Where was this and how did it happen?
rugbyman2000 2 years ago
in ridgecres california he was in his outside kennel and i walked out there to feed him but he was dead and there was blood coming out of his mouth so the vet said it was a mohave green he was a 6 yr. old german shorthair
rcooper95 2 years ago
Wow that is sad, sorry to hear that. I hear that some dogs appear to be frightened by snakes and stay out of striking range, while other dogs don't seem to know any better and attack snakes like they would any small animal.
rugbyman2000 2 years ago
he was in a fenced kennel he had no chance... maybe 8-10ft
rcooper95 2 years ago
HA!!!!
Pr3dat0r5000 2 years ago
Of course, even the most deadly snake in the world, the black mamba, isnt going to kill you if you get medical attention quickly enough. So this dismissal you make of cotalus is also true for all snakes. But if you are bitten by one of these guys, dont think its not necessary to go to the hospital quickly. It would be a miracle if you survive.
idlenessss 3 years ago
Idlenessss, please tell me you don't work around venomous snakes.
DrJomes 3 years ago
uh, concerning this argument, the US is home to 3 of the most venomous snakes in the viper family, the poison of which is quickly fatal to an adult human. I dont really see why this matters or why it should be suprising. The most venomous and the most deadly snakes of course are still in africa.
idlenessss 3 years ago
You have beautiful timbers in PA, but I don't think they can be classified as "deadly." None of the venomous species in the U.S. are in that category. They are only deadly to their prey and not humans.
goody0033 3 years ago
Nope, people have died from timber bites before and many other species in the US. Although most bites are not deadly, they can be without treatment. A handful of people have even died from copperhead bites, although they're the least venomous (LD 50 potency) in the US and not usually considered deadly.
rugbyman2000 3 years ago
Most dog attacks do not result in death, but dogs kill more people in the U.S. yearly than venomous snakes. So by your reasoning dogs are deadly, so are horses, cows, and even cats. Timbers and Copperheads certainly have the potential to be dangerous, but deadly? Goody003 is right, our native snakes really fall short of deserving to be labeled deadly. The ratio of people envenomed vs. people that actually die is quite small.
DrJomes 3 years ago
Most US bites aren't lethal, but not because the snakes aren't deadly -- it's because #1 we have access to great medical treatment and #2 we don't have to work barefoot so close to snakes like Asian, African, and Indian workers (by comparison, we're always in contact with dogs, cats, horses, etc). Australia has the most "deadly" venoms (by LD50 rating) but few deaths for the same reasons. Americans survive most exotic bites here, too, but not because the exotic hots aren't deadly.
rugbyman2000 3 years ago
A timber example from my state: a young man made the mistake of picking up a timber rattlesnake in 2005 with his bare hands. He suffered a vascular bite (see my "unlucky" comment above), which is the worst kind you can receive. That, coupled with the fact that the car got a flat tire on the way to the hospital, earned this person the distinction of being the first person in 25 years to die in Oklahoma from venomous snakebite. Let me repeat that because it's important: 25 years!
goody0033 3 years ago
I agree that you can die from venomous snakebite in the U.S. but you have to be extremely unlucky or totally inattentive to your symptoms. LD50 for our native pitvipers is essentially meaningless due to a couple of reasons, one of which you mention below. First, they're not so venomous that you have no time to get medical treatment. Second, we have lots of hospitals and plenty of antivenin to treat bites. To me, LD50 for U.S. pitvipers is only significant if you're a small rodent. :)
goody0033 3 years ago
It seems as though my comments are a tad out of order. I'm sure you can figure out how they read.
Anyway, my point is this - yes, they're potentially dangerous, but I can't see calling them "deadly." If being able to possibly lead to your death, then we can say the exact same thing about humans, which account for far more human deaths than timber rattlesnakes. Human beings are the only animal I fear and with very good reason.
goody0033 3 years ago
You guys keep talking about LD50's. The majority (at least a good deal) of venomous snakes have evolved venoms to kill mice. Therefore LD50's show how efficient a venom is in killing mice. There is no way an experienced scientist can use those figures to directly relate to humans. Mice and humans are very dissimilar in size, genetics, and metabolism. If we used LD50's based on elephants, goats, or salamanders they would not be the same as they are with mice.
DrJomes 3 years ago
Mind posting a link to the copper deaths? I thought that we never have had a death do to their venom only...
iloveherp 2 years ago
cool first veiw and comment this si a cool looking snkae =] im 13 and i was golfing and i saw a gopher snake it was very freindly i realy like your videos
Blo0dYbuLL3T 3 years ago
Thanks, I love gopher snakes!
rugbyman2000 3 years ago
i wish timber rattlesnakes still inhabited rhode island:(
puddingzombie 3 years ago