I agree with postbop as jazz musicians we all make mistakes. It is weird they screwed up a blues but hey shit happens. I hate to judge any musician on one performance or be judged myself on one performance.
People are bagging freddie but I understand where he's coming from. Think of how pissed off you get (assuming you're even a musician) when you're about to come up on an improv section and your pianist or drummer fucks things up for you. It's irritating to say the least.
People don't realize that if the drummer or pianist fuck up ONE change or rhythm that it throws the entire song off.
@jerec576 : you are correct. freddie hubbard plays trumpet. sometimes context clues can help us determine those sorts of things, i.e., the video is titled "Freddie Hubbard - Hubtones" and the camera is on a man playing trumpet for nearly the entire video. One may then deduce that the star of the video is Freddie Hubbard and that he is playing trumpet. No worries, though, that's just what happens on YouTube!
Ralph was laying it down, but poor Renee and Kenny on here, lol! Happens to the best of us sometimes, and as Freddie put it: "It's not that easy to play with Freddie Hubbard... ain't that hard either!"
Every musician on that bandstand is world-class. For those watching who aren't jazz musicians, this happens to all of us; sometimes WE goof up, sometimes it's someone else in the group and is up to the rest of us to help that person along for the betterment of the music being played. If you are a jazz musician and passing heavy judgment, be careful: the jazz karma troll will be sitting in on your gig sometime soon, and he likes to play Giant Steps at quarter note=400,
That's true as far as I know -- Kenny Davis is fantastic, and Ralph Peterson is one of the best drummers working today. I couldn't even hear how they pissed off Freddie.
i was watching the grammys tonight and saw them saluting Freddie Hubbard and I got so confused...i can't believe i didn't hear about his heart complications....what a legend man...."it ain't hard to play with freddie...but it certainly ain't easy either!" rip....
Freddie inspired me to play flugel and trumpet. I even have a picture with him in New York. I loved him stretching out to reach those high notes. It felt as if his playing represented life. You try as much as you can to succeed in everything you do, but you can't do everything. The main thing was to attempt and not regret. Even in your experimenting you can sometimes discover some beautiful things that amaze even yourself. That was the beauty of my friend Freddie. I'm going to miss him!
It also sucks that I didn't find out he died until just now (3 days after he died). Of all the awesome trumpet players that ever lived, he's the one i wish I could play like the most. RIP Freddie
Freddie Hubbard greatly inspired me to play this music callad jazz ! First of his records I`ve ever heard was as this video here entitled Hub Tones. I`m fortunate and very happy to be able to meet him in person. Rest in peace Freddie. I love you forever ! Have a Happy New Year in Heaven
Just heard virtuoso musician Freddie Hubbard passed away ! Man...slowly all that great jazz muzzo´s of the 50´s and 60´s are leaving planet earth, one more hard bopper gone !
Let´s stick to the thought Freddie is now joining that great session band way up with Parker, Getz, Coltrane, Navarro, Brown etc !
they were in fact lost. listen to the cd recording, and you can feel where its supposed to be. Bass was the first off, that's where is messed up, i think they had trouble feeling the time in relation to the melody. Secondly, Hubbard is a legend. Check him out in his prime, very few come close to that. Freddie is one of the biggest influences on the Nicholas paytons and roy hargroves of today, no doubt.
honestly, listen to the head. it's a 6-bar phrase repeated 4 times that sounds like an improvised solo, especially with hubbard's embellishments that sound more like random squeaks than a melody. The bass and keys players didn't come in together but they did a fantastic job of recovering and keeping up the level of intensity.
James Spaulding is an incredible alto player and was unfortunately not given the attention he should have received. Check out his work with Wayne Shorter on many Blue Note albums to hear what I mean.
I loved this number so much that I made the head my ringtone. That was a big mistake because after a year of that, everytime I listened to the song on the album I thought my cell was ringing.
It does seem a difficult performance. But I like it. My favorite jazz musician. Were those charity glasses? Ha ha. They look like the 2 for 1 type, I had a pair like those years ago. Glad he took them off. It came together well after the glasses were off.
They did get lost. If you listen to the piano player she plays the same two bars twice in a row b/c she realized that she was two measures ahead of herself. That was right before Freddie sent her a look of death lol.
man he`s not wasted just teeded off,freddie`s a great piano player and the rythm section was off to a bad start,the two fingers were to indicate the second chourus.great playing in spite of a rough start.
Leadership is tough when you are in a set that is under the prying eyes of the authorities. It was a fluke that the first two bars went on that way because of a miscue in tempo. The drummer kicked it off and the rhthym did'nt catch up! Freddie knew it was off from the jump so he was queing them to get back in two measures of "feel beats" so everyone could be together.
I read in a book on jazz that Freddie Hubbard played commercially for some years and then had difficulty playing jazz again. Perhaps that is true and this video may be an example. At any rate he doesn't look happy; is he contemplating in what style to play? Here he sounds less boppish and farther out than he used to, but I wonder if that is an improvement. I greatly admired him when he was with Blakey.
I've been trying to figure out what threw everything out of whack during the first two choruses. Hubbard's last two notes of the theme was actually the start of the chorus. But the bass player wasn't able to nail that down and started later. Then on Eb7, the bass player suddenly plays II-V. Gee, that would throw anyone off.
you honestly think freddie hubbard was lost? its not his job to catch up to a band who cant play a blues. he's not arrogant at all, and if he was, he has every right to be.
A legend but this shows either early signs of his slide down OR he was just pissed off about the band or whatever. Does seem t pull it together a few mintes in but its a shaky start and he looks f'd up about something. But ain't no one like the Hub.
Man, these guys are always just gonna be like this. Not even worth arguing about. I got stuff to practice.
TheJazzSwings 6 months ago
FabFreddie.
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TLC
PapaLuvTLC 9 months ago
Oh SHit..... And HE STILL SWINGS HARD AS BALLS
TJSax1986 10 months ago
I agree with postbop as jazz musicians we all make mistakes. It is weird they screwed up a blues but hey shit happens. I hate to judge any musician on one performance or be judged myself on one performance.
Cymbalgroove 11 months ago
Maybe he thought what everyone else was playing was hip.....maybe he was bugged at one of the TV camera people?
badddnote 1 year ago
No messing around he injured his lip playing, love what you do, do what you love!
ajr0988 1 year ago
People are bagging freddie but I understand where he's coming from. Think of how pissed off you get (assuming you're even a musician) when you're about to come up on an improv section and your pianist or drummer fucks things up for you. It's irritating to say the least.
People don't realize that if the drummer or pianist fuck up ONE change or rhythm that it throws the entire song off.
James9533 1 year ago
It's blues in Bb...How can much lesser players get lost?
Maybe if they stopped trying so hard to be hip and just play, this would'nt have happened..
Freddie could be an asshole, but he had every reason to be pissed off...
It got to a point that none of it was any good, just some ideas that lacked any real key center..
I loved Freddie's playing, but this was one that could easily be forgotten..
tpt1111 1 year ago
If Hubbard had just kept playing instead of acting like a jerk, not many would've noticed they'd messed up.
denzelsnipes69 1 year ago
@jerec576 : you are correct. freddie hubbard plays trumpet. sometimes context clues can help us determine those sorts of things, i.e., the video is titled "Freddie Hubbard - Hubtones" and the camera is on a man playing trumpet for nearly the entire video. One may then deduce that the star of the video is Freddie Hubbard and that he is playing trumpet. No worries, though, that's just what happens on YouTube!
gregopvuur 1 year ago
the description doesnt list what instrument hubbard is on...
jerec576 1 year ago
Ralph was laying it down, but poor Renee and Kenny on here, lol! Happens to the best of us sometimes, and as Freddie put it: "It's not that easy to play with Freddie Hubbard... ain't that hard either!"
intrepidpooch 1 year ago
one of the cooooleest cats ever too bad they dont make them anymore
staysea36 1 year ago
lol, had so much in mind he forgot where the tune was. doesn't matter though.
ivantpt89 1 year ago
@ivantpt89 other way around. renee and kenny were playing the wrong changes.
polkadots1234555 1 year ago
badass motherfucker on trumpet
B00718 2 years ago
Hubbard behaving badly.
denzelsnipes69 2 years ago
He behaves badly every time he picks up a a trumpet!! I don't mind!
orjazzmicintentions 1 year ago
im a little suprised they lost the form on a blues
donotclickonthis 2 years ago
Ouch... it just makes you uncomfortable watching the beginning, but they sure make up for it later on!
CaptainJazz92 2 years ago
I was just thinking he needs to sort out his specs when suddenly he throws them off at 3:36
ijkoool69 2 years ago
LoL @ poor Rene Rosnes at 4:46. Tough day on the job.
denzelsnipes69 2 years ago
Freddie Hubbard was acting like an asshole.
denzelsnipes69 2 years ago
@denzelsnipes69 No, not an asshole... a badass...
carsleuth 2 years ago
Every musician on that bandstand is world-class. For those watching who aren't jazz musicians, this happens to all of us; sometimes WE goof up, sometimes it's someone else in the group and is up to the rest of us to help that person along for the betterment of the music being played. If you are a jazz musician and passing heavy judgment, be careful: the jazz karma troll will be sitting in on your gig sometime soon, and he likes to play Giant Steps at quarter note=400,
postbop 2 years ago 12
That's true as far as I know -- Kenny Davis is fantastic, and Ralph Peterson is one of the best drummers working today. I couldn't even hear how they pissed off Freddie.
bootysurgeon 2 years ago
Very well put, postbop.
latebop 2 years ago
@postbop Great comment, LOL!
intrepidpooch 1 year ago
haha i've never seen so much tension in a combo
itsbenagain 2 years ago 3
freddies trumpet is tight
waldabeast 2 years ago
Lol he was like Im Freddie Hubbard i dont need no Fucking Glasses. Then throws them on the ground.
Man i love listening to him
cschamp93 2 years ago 3
haha and spaulding picks them up off the ground. i think i may have heard about this from someone, hadn't seen it though!
itsbenagain 2 years ago
Lol yea he was nervous about it to
cschamp93 2 years ago
a tight start; then it gets funny. then it's just... thrilling! Freddie...my goodness... plays like a man possessed sometimes.
SERiF7321 2 years ago
In minute 1:19 Freddie is thinking, "gosh, I wish Clifford Jarvis and Herbie Hancock were here!"
vastusinternus 2 years ago 4
hahaaa yeah^^
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serbian9456 2 years ago
I dont understand what is happening in the beginning.
fluffybal 2 years ago
rhythm section lost the form and freddie said WHATSFUCKINGOINON??!!
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BrunoJazzmanLeicht 2 years ago 6
I love how theyres always an asshole that goes 'YEAH!' when someone messes up.
jerec576 3 years ago 5
i was watching the grammys tonight and saw them saluting Freddie Hubbard and I got so confused...i can't believe i didn't hear about his heart complications....what a legend man...."it ain't hard to play with freddie...but it certainly ain't easy either!" rip....
a7secondsfan 3 years ago
das ist ja sieberne scheiSSe!
aufdeutschsagiches 3 years ago
So sad to hear that he passed away already..another giant gone. RIP.
cujazztrpt 3 years ago
He was one of the real giants
jerec576 3 years ago
G-d bless freddie hubbard.
joshuasound 3 years ago
Freddie inspired me to play flugel and trumpet. I even have a picture with him in New York. I loved him stretching out to reach those high notes. It felt as if his playing represented life. You try as much as you can to succeed in everything you do, but you can't do everything. The main thing was to attempt and not regret. Even in your experimenting you can sometimes discover some beautiful things that amaze even yourself. That was the beauty of my friend Freddie. I'm going to miss him!
Jestunes 3 years ago 3
It sucks that Freddie's gone.
It also sucks that I didn't find out he died until just now (3 days after he died). Of all the awesome trumpet players that ever lived, he's the one i wish I could play like the most. RIP Freddie
madscout96 3 years ago
Wow, i didnt know either... That sucks
jerec576 3 years ago
Awesome, excellent video!
KlausVanBrueggen 3 years ago
Freddie Hubbard greatly inspired me to play this music callad jazz ! First of his records I`ve ever heard was as this video here entitled Hub Tones. I`m fortunate and very happy to be able to meet him in person. Rest in peace Freddie. I love you forever ! Have a Happy New Year in Heaven
jazzvisionband 3 years ago
Sweet Return
divajc 3 years ago
RIP to one of the greatest jazz men to walk the planet.
psander78 3 years ago 12
@psander78 agreed. better than miles and better than dizzy i think.
ox092 1 year ago
@ox092 one coooool cat
staysea36 1 year ago
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@psander78 one of the cooooleest cats ever too bad they dont make them anymore
staysea36 1 year ago
Just heard virtuoso musician Freddie Hubbard passed away ! Man...slowly all that great jazz muzzo´s of the 50´s and 60´s are leaving planet earth, one more hard bopper gone !
Let´s stick to the thought Freddie is now joining that great session band way up with Parker, Getz, Coltrane, Navarro, Brown etc !
It´s natures way, but sometimes it sucks !
WaveRoofer 3 years ago
To think he's gone... I just only talked to him about a month ago. So sad...
conmanmusic 3 years ago
RIP!
elysiumstarz 3 years ago
RIP Freddie
atpal 3 years ago
Hey, all bands have moments like these. Hubbard haters, FUCK OFF
mrpossibilities 3 years ago
they were in fact lost. listen to the cd recording, and you can feel where its supposed to be. Bass was the first off, that's where is messed up, i think they had trouble feeling the time in relation to the melody. Secondly, Hubbard is a legend. Check him out in his prime, very few come close to that. Freddie is one of the biggest influences on the Nicholas paytons and roy hargroves of today, no doubt.
remilburne7 3 years ago
F.Hubbart..In my opition,at early 60`s he was in his best.He got a real pressure in his tight solos.Not the best,but very good trumpet player..
JAZZI40 3 years ago
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that man's always been way overrated,
he blows all the bad ugly notes,
there are much better trumpeteers,
like De Gebroeders Brouwer from holland!
slackebacker 3 years ago
Your joking. Freddie Hubbard shaped the sound for modern jazz trumpet playing. Nobody has come close to what he can do.
dqjazz 3 years ago
honestly, listen to the head. it's a 6-bar phrase repeated 4 times that sounds like an improvised solo, especially with hubbard's embellishments that sound more like random squeaks than a melody. The bass and keys players didn't come in together but they did a fantastic job of recovering and keeping up the level of intensity.
mak04005 3 years ago
I love at 3:36 where he throws his glasses on the floor! Great player, great solo
xeno087 3 years ago
Wait, I just fastforwarded...forget it. He had lip.
TerryStJean 3 years ago
I think there was something wron with his lip. He had no lip to play.
TerryStJean 3 years ago
James Spaulding is an incredible alto player and was unfortunately not given the attention he should have received. Check out his work with Wayne Shorter on many Blue Note albums to hear what I mean.
kingpleasure 3 years ago
Why does this kind of video is incomplete?
elsegno 3 years ago
He is the man. Deffinatly my trumpet playing idol. The dude is a straight up ledgend!
RBFJediBond 3 years ago
I use to hear hubtones in my sleep
bigbankX 3 years ago
I loved this number so much that I made the head my ringtone. That was a big mistake because after a year of that, everytime I listened to the song on the album I thought my cell was ringing.
kingpleasure 3 years ago
It does seem a difficult performance. But I like it. My favorite jazz musician. Were those charity glasses? Ha ha. They look like the 2 for 1 type, I had a pair like those years ago. Glad he took them off. It came together well after the glasses were off.
Azorka82 3 years ago
It's not difficult to play with Freddie Hubbard.
What confused the rhythm section is the line "Hubtones".
It is very complex and it is easy to see how anyone unfamiliar with it could find it hard to feel where "one" is.
Once everyone finds "one", the rest is easy and Freddie soars.
Jazzanswer 3 years ago
its a blues. how could they possibly get lost.
nsilveira1216 3 years ago
Oh man they didn't get lost, you just can't hear it.
badnote 3 years ago
They did get lost. If you listen to the piano player she plays the same two bars twice in a row b/c she realized that she was two measures ahead of herself. That was right before Freddie sent her a look of death lol.
coolstruttin1 3 years ago
These are great musicians. It shows that it can happen to anyone.
But had I been Freddie in the position of being on Front Street with the form going bad, I wouldn't have been so pleased myself.
It sure came together, though, and Freddie is hot.
JazzMaster1955 3 years ago 2
man he`s not wasted just teeded off,freddie`s a great piano player and the rythm section was off to a bad start,the two fingers were to indicate the second chourus.great playing in spite of a rough start.
smoothdee1 4 years ago 2
man,he looks wasted
mcintosh2k 4 years ago
Ralph Peterson is all there, though. Poor Renee, indeed. Now... Hubard solo was good. miss Spaulding´s.
perovaas 4 years ago
Play it! Don't spray it...!
Leadership is tough when you are in a set that is under the prying eyes of the authorities. It was a fluke that the first two bars went on that way because of a miscue in tempo. The drummer kicked it off and the rhthym did'nt catch up! Freddie knew it was off from the jump so he was queing them to get back in two measures of "feel beats" so everyone could be together.
MovieVidKing 4 years ago
No listen.. The problem is they lost the form on a god damn blues. I would be pissed too, especially if it was my gig.
lorenzini 4 years ago
What's the 2 fingers for?
chc0423 4 years ago
who knows.. I thought it meant start of the 2nd chorus? Or maybe II/V to the top of the tune. Maybe it means, look at these eyes, they shoot lazers!
lorenzini 4 years ago
Allways respect an artist for his bright moments.. and Freddie hava a lot. I love all his good music and ignore the worst
Torpeeep 4 years ago
And actually, what Freddie did play here was glorious! He was just pissed.
lorenzini 4 years ago
I read in a book on jazz that Freddie Hubbard played commercially for some years and then had difficulty playing jazz again. Perhaps that is true and this video may be an example. At any rate he doesn't look happy; is he contemplating in what style to play? Here he sounds less boppish and farther out than he used to, but I wonder if that is an improvement. I greatly admired him when he was with Blakey.
klactv 4 years ago
I've been trying to figure out what threw everything out of whack during the first two choruses. Hubbard's last two notes of the theme was actually the start of the chorus. But the bass player wasn't able to nail that down and started later. Then on Eb7, the bass player suddenly plays II-V. Gee, that would throw anyone off.
crackerjazz 4 years ago
haha thats funny. renee wasnt the last to catch on, rather freddie was the last to *catch up and coorporate...he seems arrogant
gsgrulloni 4 years ago
no, she was the last to catch up.
lorenzini 4 years ago
you honestly think freddie hubbard was lost? its not his job to catch up to a band who cant play a blues. he's not arrogant at all, and if he was, he has every right to be.
nsilveira1216 3 years ago
freddie's fuckin PISSED!
pianoanimal09 4 years ago
Of course he is... he's a trumpet player.
coolbraz 4 years ago
Great performance...
Bertiklein 4 years ago
A legend but this shows either early signs of his slide down OR he was just pissed off about the band or whatever. Does seem t pull it together a few mintes in but its a shaky start and he looks f'd up about something. But ain't no one like the Hub.
jonsilence 4 years ago
This is angry jazz. And I love angry jazz. :D
swedenstu 4 years ago
I'm a thankful fan ,,, and worship at the altar of just about everything he did, but I don't really dig this.
zacary9bibi1 4 years ago
the cameranam should backoff a bit.
phumlanimtiti 4 years ago
the cameranam should backoff a bit.
phumlanimtiti 4 years ago
Poor camera guy
Superphilipp 4 years ago
the first time i saw it i thought he had injured his lip or something
VoteForMiles89 4 years ago
when he took the glasses of it was on!!
tapjet 4 years ago
megane!megane!
anarchy378 5 years ago
Freddie taking a look a his trumpet asif to say "is it me?"
strozier 5 years ago
I thought he was checking his tuning slide.
HADJEE 5 years ago
Ouch. That felt wrong from the start. 2 fingers--2 flats...
rsalvucc 4 years ago
ha it looks like those glasses were finally too much for freddie lol...i would've been chucked 'em
ScreaminDeamon4lyfe 5 years ago
how could you miss on a blues? Kenny Davis was not in the right place at all,lol.
CJ81 5 years ago
Bass player gets lost on a 12 bar blues....YIKES!!!
Shemp56 5 years ago
If looks could kill
kalcom 5 years ago