Dave Emory - The First Refuge of a Scoundrel Excerpt

[DJcaliban]

surely his position on israel and palestine is that it's a lot of bullshit, governments using religion to fan fanatical flames, and that (like democrat versus republican) it's all a play on a stage, full of sound and fury, signifying nothing.

[khavarian]

Look at Dave, an unwitting CIA asset used in the 80s to bait the Soviets into the western sound paradigm. Dave, you are a moron. Did you know that you're actually working for Evil?

[jeffery234567]

Emory's Anti- Christian guru speaks:

"But before CBS could fall, ABC went into the hands of none other than William Casey and the Central Intelligence Agency; and William Casey is a Knight of Malta also, so that would be two major networks in the hands of the Vatican agents whose oath is to the Vatican, to Rome and to the Roman Empire."

- mae brussell,

KAZU-FM,

Pacific Grove, Ca.

April 8, 1985

[utyriiii]

Why print the dialog? The entire broadcast and the statement can be heard in the context of whatever else he says, not taken out of context.

Why are you afraid of people listening to Dave's broadcasts at WFMU ORG?

By the way, he answered both your questions in the broadcast.

[jeffery234567]

Are you on drugs? Now you say he answered? What did he say?

[utyriiii]

Are YOU on drugs? He clearly answers the questions on the 3-13-07 broadcast which can be heard at WFMU.

On the archive broadcast at WFMU, the host says someone with the name "Joe" has some questions and gives Dave the questions you mentioned above.

I assume that "Joe" is you since those are the questions you say you asked.

[jeffery234567]

Emory is a balless twerp. I (Joe is my middle and nickname)was asked if he would debate a 911truther.

He said no. I don't have the time. PERIOD.

He attacks others, has time to record his silly show and make a movie, but won't crawl out of his hole to debate.

COWARD.

[utyriiii]

I consider Emory very brave, especially with nutcases like you walking around.

Why don t you show how much of a non-Coward and non-twerp you are by posting your real name or posting a video response with your face showing.

We all like anonymity, but you are the one calling a public figure every name in the book. Show how brave YOU are.

[jeffery234567]

I hereby challenge you and Emory, to show up at GROUND ZERO in NYC any Saturday from 2 to 4pm and debate me and any of the other 911truthers, right in the Plaza.

And don't try to weasel out of it by saying you did when you didn't. All the debates are vid. I can't wait to see the "great antifascist" there.

[utyriiii]

We are still waiting for you to back up one of the first of many statements you made attacking Emory:

"I have questioned this clown on a number of subjects and he squirms all kinds of ways."

When asked to back up the statement you give the non-response that I should send you my email. Then you start using the fact that I didn t send you my email as a reason to attack ME!!

That is not documenting your statement.

[jeffery234567]

Oh poor you. I would love to post all of the questions I posed to Emory here, but you won't answer them, any better than he will.

[utyriiii]

Liar. He wasn t on WFMU to answer questions. He was doing a fundraiser with a couple of co-hosts. It wasn't set up as a call-in show The broadcast can be heard at the WFMU org website archive page for Dave Emory. Click on the broadcast for March 20, 2007.

[jeffery234567]

Fine! I have questioned this clown on a number of subjects and he squirms all kinds of ways.

Why don't you ask him:

Why doesn't he debate a 911truth person in public?

[utyriiii]

Document those occasions where you say you have questioned him. When were they? What were the questions?

Do you expect people to take your word for all the claptrap you put out?

He was never asked: "why doesn t he debate a 911truth person in public." You are shooting him down for something he never even had put to him.

[jeffery234567]

I would be happy to foward dated e-mails to you, where I asked him many questions. He refused to answer. I look forward to getting your e-mail.

He was infact asked if he supported the Iraq war, and if he would debate a 911truth person.

If it is not on the Spitfire site, did you think maybe, he decided not to post that portion of the fund raiser?

BTW, when will you post the dialog?

[utyriiii]

Fundraiser shows for wfmu are not posted on SPITFIRELIST COM. The Marathon fundraiser shows for the past few years are archived at wfmu.

YOU are making the accusation against Emory, not me, so YOU should "post the dialog"- though it isn't clear WHAT the accusation is.

[utyriiii]

You publicly made a claim about Emory so you should publicly back it up, or retract the statement.

Since you won t back it up, the statement, like all of your other claims, must assumed to be false.

Besides, why would anyone give their email to a freak like you?

[jeffery234567]

Seems you are afraid to see that your pal is a coward.

You don't have to post your email here. Send me a private message. I won't share it.

Why don't you say your real name? Oh that's right your name is Emory.

[jeffery234567]

utyriii(Dave Emory):

Prove I'm a liar. Where is the dialog, word for word, from your appearance on WFMU?

[utyriiii]

Someone is defending Dave, so the person must be Dave himself? Is that your logic? Perhaps you would like to explain it.

[jeffery234567]

Who else but Dave and me know about this caracther. How many people have viewed this silly video or commented?

[utyriiii]

You have already been proven a liar since you admitted that you were the caller on the show and therefore knew Emory was not "on the WFMU, to answer questions" and was not setup to have questions "presented from the actual caller."

Since you knew they were false statements when you made them, you are a liar.

Anyone in doubt should listen to the broadcast then read your statements again. March 13 2007 archive show for Emory on WFMU ORG

[jeffery234567]

Were you listening that day?

So a female screener, did not pick up the phone ask me what questions I had for the wimp, write them down, hand them to host of the show who asked the wimp the questions?

Obvious to anyone but YOU, Dave is a major liar is editing Spitfire.

[utyriiii]

Not even a nice try, Adolpho.

The marathon fundraiser shows are not even on SPITFIRELIST COM, liar.

The 3-13-07 broadcast is on WFMU and it sounds like the show is heard all the way through.

You are saying the broadcast at WFMU was edited by Dave to remove some of your questions? LOL

[jeffery234567]

Oh that's what I am? Well that's when I know I have a neocon or a liberal on the ropes, they pull out the old stand by. Anti-semite/racist label.

Right Dave? I mean rituryii.

Where's your e-mail so I can expose your hero, once and for all!

[utyriiii]

I have no doubt you are pro-fascist, probably a neo Nazi. Not to difficult to figure out from your statements.

You would tend to get such a name when you viciously heckle and verbally attack one of the world's major anti-fascists, and in the vid where he is describing and condemning Nazi atrocities (clip 5--5:15 minutes). You cackled that Emory was a "communist", giving no reason, and a label often used by the Nazis to attack their opponents.

[jeffery234567]

Losing a debate? Call your opponent a nazi. Typical PC fascist way to suppress free speech.

I don't doubt that pompous ass,considers himself: "one of the world's major anti-fascists"

Again junior, I never said he was a communist. Let some one read my post to you about Abzug.

[utyriiii]

I didn t say you were a "nazi," I used a qualifier (something you never do) saying I thought you were pro-fascist and PROBABLY a neo-Nazi.

Although there are other reasons why I think its true, I gave one big reason (something you do give for your statements):

you verbally broadside a man on a vid where he is condemning Nazi atrocities.

[jeffery234567]

Stalin condemmed the nazis too. Means nothing.

I think you're PROBABLY a fascist since you and Emory fail to address the British/Zionist conspiracy to take Palestine.

Your "thinking" is not my concern.

[jeffery234567]

Yet another question for you. The PLO, the Popular Front for the Liberation of Palestine, the DPFLP, all condemn racism and anti-Semitism in their charters.

Why do we never hear about this from the great "anti-fascist?"

Yet another sourse of info. on the British/MB nexus:

Go to Worldwide Larouche Youth Movement. Click on books, see 'Hostage to Khomeini.

When will you show at Ground Zero? We're waiting.

[utyriiii]

What does that have to do with anything? Are you claiming that Emory is against Palestinians and for Israel?

Provide the date of the broadcast so anybody can verify if this is true and hear what Emory said in context.

[jeffery234567]

You're an expert on yourself, I mean Emory. Tell us his position on Israel and Palestine?

Cite in broadcasts and writings his positions.

[utyriiii]

It s not to me to disprove a lie. It is up to you to make your case which you haven t. You simply repeat your accusations rather than give evidence or reason for their validity.

[jeffery234567]

Simple question.

Tell me his position on Israel and Palestine?

[utyriiii]

The date of the broadcast should be: March 13, 2007 (2007 Marathon week two with Marathon co-hosts Ken Freedman and Dan Bodah). It is on Daves WFMU archive page at wfmu org

[jeffery234567]

Print the dialog. Where is it? Word for word. What did I write here, that is incorrect?

He was asked if he would debate a 911truther.

He said no, I haven't the time. True?

[jeffery234567]

This guy was on the WFMU, to answer questions. His questions were not presented from the actual caller, which should tell you something.

I called and spoke to the screener.

Question: "Will you debate someone from the 911 Truth Movement?"

Emory: No.

Emory calls 911 Truth, the 911 BS Movement.

After his short answer, he latter came back with an excuse.

He does not have the time.

Really. Yet he has time to record one of those silly tapes for one hour each week.

[utyriiii]

Liar. He wasn t on WFMU to answer questions. He was doing a fundraiser with a couple of co-hosts. It wasn't set up as a call-in show The broadcast can be heard at the WFMU org website archive page for Dave Emory. Click on the broadcast for March 20, 2007.

[jeffery234567]

The cohosts asked him if he would takes some questions. He said yes.

Like I said:

"I called and spoke to the screener"

She asked me what's your questions. I asked her to ask him two questions.

Do you support the war in Iraq?

Will you debate someone from 911Truth?

The cohosts asked him.

Where did I lie? Where is the tape?

[utyriiii]

The date of the broadcast should be: March 13, 2007 (2007 Marathon week two with Marathon co-hosts Ken Freedman and Dan Bodah). It is on Daves WFMU archive page at wfmu org