Using plates like yours that the upper part of the plate were allowing
more current to flow due to the resistence of the ss plate when the electrolite was of a high concentration. Creating a voltage drop down the length of the plate as the current takes path of least resistance .I connected the plates top and bottom to even it out, it worked well.I also believe uneven spacing would do the same, larger gap at the terminal end of the plate would increase resistace to force current down the plate.
with 12 volts at 7 amps (140watts), how big is the efficiency if burned in a car? is it enough to recharge the battery and run the motor while not moving, is it enough to run the car including the recharging battery or will the battery run out of power after a few hours and the car won't drive. watched other videos of you but never see actually a driving (working) car.
couldn't you create a device that switches power on and off repetively so you get many of those big bubbles which occur at the beginning in every second thus enlarging the amount of gas?
John how are the oil companies about out of oil?. I thought there was other place's they will be drilling in the future or am i misinformed?. thanks keep up the good work.
There is oil out there but the oil will or has already hit its peek... There is still fields we could tap here but that is not enough... Also a lot of the oil people are looking at is deeper or requires much more money to get it... It is time to stop the stupidly and get to work on a new energy system... John AArons
The neutral plates become a static field, kind of electromagnetic... Put some buckets outside to collect rainwater, for testing with your focus cell?..
i'd be interested in you breaking it down and experimenting - looking for the same visual phenomenon - by first doing +|-, then +|N|-, then +|-|+|-, then +|N|-|N|+, then +|N|N|N|- etc. when i built my first cell out of 304 wall plates (b/c they're cheap) - i did the same thing - and could not find an order or method (all other parameters being the same) that showed an increase with neutral plates.
This vid has a lot of questions in it. The answers could be very simple or new such as the pressure of the water having an effect deeper down... or perhaps a "jacobs ladder" effect. Other points to ponder might be should the plates (pos or neg...not both) be closer to the neutral plates.
Could just be my imagination, but when I watch your video it reminds me a bit of the way a lobe of RF is pulled out by the directional elements of a yagi type antenna. The way the gasses are pulled from the negative plates towards the neutral plates. It may be doing the positive ones the same but since your generating twice the amount of H it isn't as noticable.
Great Video. Looks like it's producing more on the ends than in the middle. From the left + n - n ; So it looks like 4 plates are better than 11. This is a great example of testing. What about testing that theroy ? Just a thought.
I am going to have to reconfigure mine and see the output comparison. This could possibly allow for smaller cell units
You're on the right track John. If you measure between each of your cells you should find they each receive half of the supplied voltage approx 6 volts. If you add another neutral plate between each +nn-nn+nn-nn+nn- you'll find each will receive 1/3 of the supplied voltage or approx 4 volts and so on. You have to imagine each neutral plate as having a north and south pole. Voltage is reducing each time electrons pass in-between each neutral cell.
My brother and I have been discussing it and we believe that the voltage is getting to the end of the plates before the current starts to flow and that voltage only is causing the surge. when the current catches up it is business as usual . Kinda makes a case for high speed switching. Just a thought...... :)
john, your the man!
chakmisss 3 years ago
hell ya! thanks amigoooo! for tips
betodeco 3 years ago
Hi What are the nutral plates for, because i built one it it only has possitive and negative ones, what is the role of the neutral plates thanks.
ysh25 3 years ago
Using plates like yours that the upper part of the plate were allowing
more current to flow due to the resistence of the ss plate when the electrolite was of a high concentration. Creating a voltage drop down the length of the plate as the current takes path of least resistance .I connected the plates top and bottom to even it out, it worked well.I also believe uneven spacing would do the same, larger gap at the terminal end of the plate would increase resistace to force current down the plate.
jipninty 3 years ago
with 12 volts at 7 amps (140watts), how big is the efficiency if burned in a car? is it enough to recharge the battery and run the motor while not moving, is it enough to run the car including the recharging battery or will the battery run out of power after a few hours and the car won't drive. watched other videos of you but never see actually a driving (working) car.
by the way, good work! keep on experimenting!
myztic123 3 years ago
I don't know where you are looking it is all there..
John AArons
johnaarons 3 years ago
okay then it is because i have not listened concentrated enough or because my english is not the best ;) thanks anyway for answering
myztic123 3 years ago
couldn't you create a device that switches power on and off repetively so you get many of those big bubbles which occur at the beginning in every second thus enlarging the amount of gas?
myztic123 3 years ago
try inverting it and see of you get the same bottom action. May be a natural gravity thing relating to negativivty or something along that paradigm.
Makes me wonder what existed. Negative or positive. They could only exist simultaneously.
bradq 3 years ago
We will see... I do think there is something here to capitalize on..
John AArons
johnaarons 3 years ago
See why us QA Inspectors are so important???
What gage of metal are you using? 18ga.?
bradq 3 years ago
.028 stainless
John AArons
johnaarons 3 years ago
The oil companies are about out of oil... I don't believe they will be the one to worry about....
John AArons
johnaarons 3 years ago
John how are the oil companies about out of oil?. I thought there was other place's they will be drilling in the future or am i misinformed?. thanks keep up the good work.
3Hunter7 3 years ago
There is oil out there but the oil will or has already hit its peek... There is still fields we could tap here but that is not enough... Also a lot of the oil people are looking at is deeper or requires much more money to get it... It is time to stop the stupidly and get to work on a new energy system... John AArons
johnaarons 3 years ago
The neutral plates become a static field, kind of electromagnetic... Put some buckets outside to collect rainwater, for testing with your focus cell?..
alvastornado 3 years ago
perhaps the neutral plaits are acting as an electro lite
omacx 3 years ago
john,
i'd be interested in you breaking it down and experimenting - looking for the same visual phenomenon - by first doing +|-, then +|N|-, then +|-|+|-, then +|N|-|N|+, then +|N|N|N|- etc. when i built my first cell out of 304 wall plates (b/c they're cheap) - i did the same thing - and could not find an order or method (all other parameters being the same) that showed an increase with neutral plates.
maybe you can finally put this debate to rest...!
usuryfree1776 3 years ago
This vid has a lot of questions in it. The answers could be very simple or new such as the pressure of the water having an effect deeper down... or perhaps a "jacobs ladder" effect. Other points to ponder might be should the plates (pos or neg...not both) be closer to the neutral plates.
trailkeeper 3 years ago
John,
Could just be my imagination, but when I watch your video it reminds me a bit of the way a lobe of RF is pulled out by the directional elements of a yagi type antenna. The way the gasses are pulled from the negative plates towards the neutral plates. It may be doing the positive ones the same but since your generating twice the amount of H it isn't as noticable.
Keep up the good work.
KyHighlander59 3 years ago
Great Video. Looks like it's producing more on the ends than in the middle. From the left + n - n ; So it looks like 4 plates are better than 11. This is a great example of testing. What about testing that theroy ? Just a thought.
I am going to have to reconfigure mine and see the output comparison. This could possibly allow for smaller cell units
Thank John.
Drew2bBlue 3 years ago
are you still using lye for electrolyte?
cameronnc 3 years ago
yes..
John AArons
johnaarons 3 years ago
You're on the right track John. If you measure between each of your cells you should find they each receive half of the supplied voltage approx 6 volts. If you add another neutral plate between each +nn-nn+nn-nn+nn- you'll find each will receive 1/3 of the supplied voltage or approx 4 volts and so on. You have to imagine each neutral plate as having a north and south pole. Voltage is reducing each time electrons pass in-between each neutral cell.
gonjokie 3 years ago
My brother and I have been discussing it and we believe that the voltage is getting to the end of the plates before the current starts to flow and that voltage only is causing the surge. when the current catches up it is business as usual . Kinda makes a case for high speed switching. Just a thought...... :)
fan1701 3 years ago