keating did a big job on hawkie and made bob look a total tool bob didn't diserve it and still hates pk today with as much passion as keats loves himself and that's huge
The thing is that Bob is speaking facts - the forthcoming Wall Street meltdown will be based on greey dudes nor speaking/reporting facts. We can argue about past wars/millitary actions but the fact remains that "W" has seen a once powerful and proud American ecomomy looking at a small recession at best and a terrible depression at worst. "W" broke away from the strength of multilateralsisim and took a chance on the say so of his"big oil"buddies. Now his country has a weak $ and an uphill battle
If you're an Aussie; it's very hard to dislike Bob Hawke (even if you hate him with a passion). He personifies that larrykin bloody-minded bastard 'I don't give a rats-arse or two fucks what you think' character that resonates favourably with Australians. Like actors, politicians are born ;not made... and he's a 'born' one. I'm sure he has a fixed agenda and he will say or not say whatever fits the moment.
I don't know about that. I just think that it is passing strange Bob talking like this when not so long ago when he was PM, he got really pissed off in his inimitable way when protesters made it clear that they wanted 'no blood for oil' as he looked just as committed to send our troops to the middle East as Johnny Howard. Both ends of the political spectrum hate Larouche with a passion; but now, he's talking like him.
When Hawke was PM he was buddies with Reagan & Bush. Now here he is criticising Bush Snr & Bush jnr. This is the only highly retarded speech made by Hawke. I was reading Anthony Giddens book & can't believe how he failed to acknowledge that Hawke was adopting centrist policies well before Blair came into power!
He sounds like the typical person that is anti american with this speech. Back in the 80s he was pro American/Australian alliance. Aside from that he does deserve the honor of being given a strong recognition in the ALP. It seems the ALP have focused on economic destroyers like Whitlam rather than Hawke who did a lot more than any other ALP leader
Whitlam couldn't even do a good job on the Australian economy. Bob Hawke was the first kickass leader of the ALP that was highly praised by both the left & the right and truly boomed the economy along with Keating. He did a much much better job than Whitlam and did more for the economy than any other leader
If Bob Hawke ran I'd most likely vote him. Rudd I am skeptical b/c of the amount of ppl that fail me. Garrett, Kim Carr (wtf are you thinking Kevin?), Julia Gillard, Simon Crean, ARRGGGGHH!
@BennelongResident rudd is an utter smear on the great party that gave us leaders like hawke, keating, curtin etc. he's a nobody and is little better than the idiotic premiers of the past decade who do nothing.
I disagree with you Ames. Hawke had nothing to do with the recession but Keating definitely carried on the recession in Australia by driving up unemployment. Keating's big mouth in the end cost him. But if you look at it also do you think Wilson Tuckey is not a crook?
Exactly. Hawke was a lovely gentlemen,I've actually met him before. He is a kind hearted person. I do however wish that he had continued on & not allowed Keating to continue. All he needed was a good treasurer to help him punch holes into Dr Hewson. Then after that maybe resign. Rudd's frontbench,I don't mind Wayne cos hes labor right.
I'd like to add to the fact that I can say the same about the liberals frontbenches and former ones too. Wilson Tuckey,Abbott,Craig Nairn,Kevin Andrews,Alexander Downer are examples. Malcolm Turnbull & Peter Costello are the 2 good leaders of the liberals and maybe Dr Nelson. He seems like a good chap but damn he used to be a labor & his reason for joining the liberals was kinda weird
Am wondering if all the children of Australia are now living out of poverty, seems Old Jelly Back's comments from 1990 show the fellow is not as credible as some say.
It would have been interesting too if Hawke were PM today & in the past few years, would he have gone into Iraq ? There were no probs also back in 1990 in sending a few ships of The RAN to The Persian Gulf under his watch & that of George Bush Senior.
Also wonder if he thinks the partition of Palestine by The UN back in the 40's was well handled ? There is a strange love affair between The ALP & The UN it seems, talk about hypocrites, The ALP are not short of them by any stretch ! It is a very common practise throughout history for ones enemies to be friends & at other times for ones friends to be foes, Hawke has a very selective view on history too.
i dont know too much about Whitlam but what he did for the arts and education is more then anyone else ever did... high ammounts of spending though...i think social policies are just as important as economic policies
Whitlam destroyed the economy due to overspending. Not only this his immigration policy was an embaressment then he gets hypocritical about Howard on asylum seekers. Plus the bribes from Saddam's Baath party & of course East Timor.
If you want to talk about immigration policy, look at the way howard put people into detention centres as a way of appearing "tough" on immigration and then let in record numbers of immigrants without telling the Australian population.
Sure he let many of them in but when comparing to scumbag Whitlam, Whitlam was more disgraceful. Not only on immigration but a whole heap of other things but we won't get into too much detail there. The fact Whitlam dared criticise Howard's treatment on asylum seekers is plain hypocritical. But nobody says anything about that
@yourgasm Whitlam was PM during a global recession, yet the liberals love to blame him for the economy at the time. It's like blaming Kevin Rudd for the current economic crisis; though I'm sure it will only be a few years before the liberals start doing that too!
@ex0ja global recession didn't force whitlam to send the country bankrupt by overspending. the recession didn't force whitlam to use an incompetent treasurer instead of someone who knew what he was talking about like hayden, who he didn't end up getting desperate enough to use until the very end, when it was too late
is this an ex PM? beware alcool will drive you like that !! by the way Bob can talk today he was one more Ozzie PM bum licker right behind Israel , he got nothing to talk of Howard he was as bad
"Afraid that Kerr would call out the army". Afraid. Hmmm... afraid. When was a nation's freedom ever won by being afraid? This is why you don't own your country today. This is why the people who own western capitalism play table-tennis with your two-party system and meanwhile control a vast mineral wealth while you sit thinking that Costello has done a wonderful job with your hobby-farm economy with a GNP not 1 percent of the value of annual export of mineral wealth. You are a nation of sheep.
You should never forget that when this nation faced it's greatest challenge this man went on National Television, presenting a subdued and sombre mood, slump-shouldered and weak, to urge the nation to "stay calm". Here was the man who, as president of the ACTU should have boldly asserted that the nation was on strike until such time as the (twice) democratically elected and legitimate government was restored to power. He later said he was "afraid that Kerr would call out the army".
In Hawkie's defence, he did speak for nearly an hour so 9 mins of summary is fair enough. I just wish I had recorded his first 15 mins as he was blistering.
Actually if you did your research and knew Kevin Rudds political agenda. You would know beyond doubt, that Kevin Rudd supported and STILL supports the Troops in Iraq. he was on of the first from Labors front bench to agree to the invasion. He has even spoke about deploying troops against Iran. Do your research.
and if you did your homework you would know that both wars are based on bullshit.
and we shouldnt be in either.
but with religious nutters at the top you know its going to continue coz that is what they do best. even in america both sides of politics are talking about iran and iran hasent done shit.
Iran has threatened numerous times that destroying Israel and the rest of the western "infedels" are in its best interests. Don't kid yourself, Irans president is insane.
Do they need the tech to reach us? Dude your a douche. All they have to do is set off a few nukes and we are all screwed. Howard hasn't even mentioned taking action against iran. But Kevin Rudd has. obviously you havent come to terms with your anal heroes agenda.
i called him an howard arse licker coz that is what he is i dont turn poli's into idol's or hero's. now to your nuclear bomb idea that if one gos off it will be the end of us all what a load of shit two were dropped on japan and we are still here.second of all we dont fight other peoples battles that have gone on for centurys . and is mad to try.
vote for howard and watch him go in if bush gos he will be there . he will support bush all the way .
by the way what is howards policy on iraq how much money was in the budget for the iraq people .and i keep telling you morons i dont like rudd he is a bible thumper like howard and when it comes to war i dont trust either but i will not trust that lieing piece of shit howard or vote for him.
but to vote howard back in when there is danger of more war is to vote for war coz he will go .dont kid yourself howard is a fucking maniac.are you going to sign up to the army/navy sometime soon are you ready to put your feet on iran /iraq/afganistan soil
you sure dont mind shooting your mouth off in here .
Howard is not a maniac. No one seems to remember the peacekeepers he sent into east timor. Nor the billions of dollars he donated to Timor and Indonesia.
We are hardly involved as it is in war. 1500 troops is hardly a battalion.
It was labor who sent the troops INTO vietnam in the first place i remember. Who said we are going to fight for them? Kevin Rudd is the only person who has mentioned taking action against Iran. SO go figure.
take a look at the video on my page where he talks about that very subject he dosent say he is going in to iran but he dosent say he wont it all depends on how other countrys handel the situation. and by the way i dont like kevin rudd but i will vote anybody else
Well fair enough. But you calling him an "arse licker" really highlights your stupidity and upbringing. Have an argument but dont be a douche about it.
do your homework he has said he will pull the troops out of iraq and i dont expect the lot to come out they will leave troops there.coz you cannot just pull out in a split second .
basically he told us he will take troops back when its finished. Kevin Rudd will not take you out of iraq. Possibly only the greens will. Even then I think they would run australia into the ground.
Bogan wanker
AdamAus85 4 months ago
best PN Oz ever had.!!
champcol 2 years ago
Geez sincerity plus, he seemed bored out of his brain.
Yob Squawk !!!!!
No orator ah !
duckshover1 2 years ago
has someone got the clip when he called some one a silly old bugger? Or any evidence of his alleged ability to skull a yard glass?
grassh0pper2 2 years ago
he needs to be put in a home
ruddsadudd 2 years ago
Owstrahlyeh Dye!
sicandbored 3 years ago
keating did a big job on hawkie and made bob look a total tool bob didn't diserve it and still hates pk today with as much passion as keats loves himself and that's huge
tmg4evr 3 years ago
that usd to be the case, but isnt any-more, they are actualy good mates
yellowajah 2 years ago 2
haward done far better then bob...like the oil joke...
arregance 3 years ago
How do you pay a mountain of debt when your currency is worth jack shit?
kickittome70 3 years ago
The thing is that Bob is speaking facts - the forthcoming Wall Street meltdown will be based on greey dudes nor speaking/reporting facts. We can argue about past wars/millitary actions but the fact remains that "W" has seen a once powerful and proud American ecomomy looking at a small recession at best and a terrible depression at worst. "W" broke away from the strength of multilateralsisim and took a chance on the say so of his"big oil"buddies. Now his country has a weak $ and an uphill battle
kickittome70 3 years ago
If you're an Aussie; it's very hard to dislike Bob Hawke (even if you hate him with a passion). He personifies that larrykin bloody-minded bastard 'I don't give a rats-arse or two fucks what you think' character that resonates favourably with Australians. Like actors, politicians are born ;not made... and he's a 'born' one. I'm sure he has a fixed agenda and he will say or not say whatever fits the moment.
BastardfromtheBush 3 years ago 2
we didn't need to Bob. we were home and hose without having to do that. a true believer.
valland55 4 years ago
The person who wanted 10% of everything is about to get the finger ! Bye bye Johnny.
Labor has never been more together.
coalltar 4 years ago
I didn't know Hawke was a Larouochie.
This sounds like a webcast from Lyndon Larouche.
BastardfromtheBush 4 years ago
Not quite. At least Bob Hawke's statements here are easily backed up. Accepting Larouche requires certain nonsensical leaps.
pushsense 4 years ago
I don't know about that. I just think that it is passing strange Bob talking like this when not so long ago when he was PM, he got really pissed off in his inimitable way when protesters made it clear that they wanted 'no blood for oil' as he looked just as committed to send our troops to the middle East as Johnny Howard. Both ends of the political spectrum hate Larouche with a passion; but now, he's talking like him.
BastardfromtheBush 4 years ago
When Hawke was PM he was buddies with Reagan & Bush. Now here he is criticising Bush Snr & Bush jnr. This is the only highly retarded speech made by Hawke. I was reading Anthony Giddens book & can't believe how he failed to acknowledge that Hawke was adopting centrist policies well before Blair came into power!
yourgasm 3 years ago
Go on you Hawkie.
Good luck tomorrow Kevin in the erection!
Cya latter Howard - Time for change - a good positive one!
haylele 4 years ago
Typical example of a labor voter.
Can't even spell "election" right...
Amesz00 4 years ago
Even though I don't agree with him on what he said but I did like him as a PM. A legendary PM he was
yourgasm 4 years ago
What didn't you agree about???
flinderstube 4 years ago
He sounds like the typical person that is anti american with this speech. Back in the 80s he was pro American/Australian alliance. Aside from that he does deserve the honor of being given a strong recognition in the ALP. It seems the ALP have focused on economic destroyers like Whitlam rather than Hawke who did a lot more than any other ALP leader
yourgasm 4 years ago
I don't think his antiAmerican. I think he is critical of some of the actions that USA have taken.
Whitlam wasn't an economic destroyer BTW
flinderstube 4 years ago
Whitlam couldn't even do a good job on the Australian economy. Bob Hawke was the first kickass leader of the ALP that was highly praised by both the left & the right and truly boomed the economy along with Keating. He did a much much better job than Whitlam and did more for the economy than any other leader
yourgasm 4 years ago
As long as you all vote for Kevin tomorrow I don't really mind what you think.
BennelongResident 4 years ago
If Bob Hawke ran I'd most likely vote him. Rudd I am skeptical b/c of the amount of ppl that fail me. Garrett, Kim Carr (wtf are you thinking Kevin?), Julia Gillard, Simon Crean, ARRGGGGHH!
yourgasm 4 years ago
@BennelongResident rudd is an utter smear on the great party that gave us leaders like hawke, keating, curtin etc. he's a nobody and is little better than the idiotic premiers of the past decade who do nothing.
AussiePolitics 1 year ago
"Bob Hawke was the first kickass leader of the ALP that was highly praised by both left & the right and truly boomed the economy along with Keating."
Oh yes, and does that include the recession that "Australia just had to have" from "The world's greatest treasurer"?
Wake up people! Labor is full of unionists and thugs that wouldn't know the first thing about an economy.
Amesz00 4 years ago
I disagree with you Ames. Hawke had nothing to do with the recession but Keating definitely carried on the recession in Australia by driving up unemployment. Keating's big mouth in the end cost him. But if you look at it also do you think Wilson Tuckey is not a crook?
yourgasm 4 years ago
Actually Bob Hawke himself was not all that bad, just (as you say) his treasurer was.
Same goes for Kevin Rudd.
It's not him that I'm scared of, it's his frontbenchers and MPs.
Amesz00 4 years ago
Exactly. Hawke was a lovely gentlemen,I've actually met him before. He is a kind hearted person. I do however wish that he had continued on & not allowed Keating to continue. All he needed was a good treasurer to help him punch holes into Dr Hewson. Then after that maybe resign. Rudd's frontbench,I don't mind Wayne cos hes labor right.
yourgasm 4 years ago
I'd like to add to the fact that I can say the same about the liberals frontbenches and former ones too. Wilson Tuckey,Abbott,Craig Nairn,Kevin Andrews,Alexander Downer are examples. Malcolm Turnbull & Peter Costello are the 2 good leaders of the liberals and maybe Dr Nelson. He seems like a good chap but damn he used to be a labor & his reason for joining the liberals was kinda weird
yourgasm 4 years ago
Wilson Tuckey is scum. He makes Howard look like a Saint
akeaneau 3 years ago
Am wondering if all the children of Australia are now living out of poverty, seems Old Jelly Back's comments from 1990 show the fellow is not as credible as some say.
It would have been interesting too if Hawke were PM today & in the past few years, would he have gone into Iraq ? There were no probs also back in 1990 in sending a few ships of The RAN to The Persian Gulf under his watch & that of George Bush Senior.
BigDon62 4 years ago
Also wonder if he thinks the partition of Palestine by The UN back in the 40's was well handled ? There is a strange love affair between The ALP & The UN it seems, talk about hypocrites, The ALP are not short of them by any stretch ! It is a very common practise throughout history for ones enemies to be friends & at other times for ones friends to be foes, Hawke has a very selective view on history too.
BigDon62 4 years ago
If anyone thinks I have, am happy to stand corrected, but reserve the right to correct others as well.
BigDon62 4 years ago
This double comment was supposed to be the last paragraph of the ones below....not sure how that happened ?
BigDon62 4 years ago
If anyone thinks I have, am happy to stand corrected, but reserve the right to correct others as well.
BigDon62 4 years ago
i dont know too much about Whitlam but what he did for the arts and education is more then anyone else ever did... high ammounts of spending though...i think social policies are just as important as economic policies
Miyabiii 3 years ago
Whitlam destroyed the economy due to overspending. Not only this his immigration policy was an embaressment then he gets hypocritical about Howard on asylum seekers. Plus the bribes from Saddam's Baath party & of course East Timor.
yourgasm 3 years ago
Howard let in record numbers of immigrants - including record numbers of Muslims and Asians - for 10 years.
JustinFromSydney 3 years ago
If you want to talk about immigration policy,look at the way Whitlam treated the Sth Vietnamese who were looking for refuge in Australia
yourgasm 3 years ago
If you want to talk about immigration policy, look at the way howard put people into detention centres as a way of appearing "tough" on immigration and then let in record numbers of immigrants without telling the Australian population.
JustinFromSydney 3 years ago
Sure he let many of them in but when comparing to scumbag Whitlam, Whitlam was more disgraceful. Not only on immigration but a whole heap of other things but we won't get into too much detail there. The fact Whitlam dared criticise Howard's treatment on asylum seekers is plain hypocritical. But nobody says anything about that
yourgasm 3 years ago
@yourgasm Whitlam was PM during a global recession, yet the liberals love to blame him for the economy at the time. It's like blaming Kevin Rudd for the current economic crisis; though I'm sure it will only be a few years before the liberals start doing that too!
ex0ja 1 year ago
@ex0ja global recession didn't force whitlam to send the country bankrupt by overspending. the recession didn't force whitlam to use an incompetent treasurer instead of someone who knew what he was talking about like hayden, who he didn't end up getting desperate enough to use until the very end, when it was too late
AussiePolitics 1 year ago
When I was a kind Bob I thought you rocked!
sylviesangels 4 years ago
Bob Hawke is one of the finest speakers I've ever heard.
Do you think John Howard will come across so well in 15 years?
And does anybody expect to be hearing ANYTHING from that assinine clown currently infesting the White House after he smirks off into retirement?
geoff2204 4 years ago 2
is this an ex PM? beware alcool will drive you like that !! by the way Bob can talk today he was one more Ozzie PM bum licker right behind Israel , he got nothing to talk of Howard he was as bad
thevoiceofbennelong 4 years ago
your and idiot
flinderstube 4 years ago
"Afraid that Kerr would call out the army". Afraid. Hmmm... afraid. When was a nation's freedom ever won by being afraid? This is why you don't own your country today. This is why the people who own western capitalism play table-tennis with your two-party system and meanwhile control a vast mineral wealth while you sit thinking that Costello has done a wonderful job with your hobby-farm economy with a GNP not 1 percent of the value of annual export of mineral wealth. You are a nation of sheep.
allenjasson 4 years ago
You should never forget that when this nation faced it's greatest challenge this man went on National Television, presenting a subdued and sombre mood, slump-shouldered and weak, to urge the nation to "stay calm". Here was the man who, as president of the ACTU should have boldly asserted that the nation was on strike until such time as the (twice) democratically elected and legitimate government was restored to power. He later said he was "afraid that Kerr would call out the army".
allenjasson 4 years ago
little johnny hitler howard is a criminal..in time he will be jailed
yitbopalay 4 years ago
Err.
Chaosmongers666 4 years ago
bring back bob for pm
01macca01 4 years ago
Lol, "can I just very quickly finalize..." [goes on talking for nine minutes]
nah, seriously, Hawkie, good stuff!
macchilavel 4 years ago
In Hawkie's defence, he did speak for nearly an hour so 9 mins of summary is fair enough. I just wish I had recorded his first 15 mins as he was blistering.
BennelongResident 4 years ago
a vote for howard is to support bush as well
and i think most people in australia think bush is a maniac so why would enyone vote howard . howard and bush are both the same there both maniacs
sgtkicker111 4 years ago
Kevin Rudd supports Bush just as much douche. two pees in a pod
Chaosmongers666 4 years ago
lol no he dont .
iran is still a target for the usa and france
the two looneys with nuclear bombs.
wake up befor you have us in a war iran
and with russia now puffing its chest out.
vote for howard vote for ww3.
sgtkicker111 4 years ago
Actually if you did your research and knew Kevin Rudds political agenda. You would know beyond doubt, that Kevin Rudd supported and STILL supports the Troops in Iraq. he was on of the first from Labors front bench to agree to the invasion. He has even spoke about deploying troops against Iran. Do your research.
Chaosmongers666 4 years ago
and if you did your homework you would know that both wars are based on bullshit.
and we shouldnt be in either.
but with religious nutters at the top you know its going to continue coz that is what they do best. even in america both sides of politics are talking about iran and iran hasent done shit.
sgtkicker111 4 years ago
Iran has threatened numerous times that destroying Israel and the rest of the western "infedels" are in its best interests. Don't kid yourself, Irans president is insane.
Chaosmongers666 4 years ago
they dont have the tech to reach us so what is the problem .
why has howard got you shitting your dacks
or terrorists and iran .
at the moment iran is straight down the line
within the law . so what do we do make up some bullshit and invade. that is bush and howard style . i say again fucking maniacs.
sgtkicker111 4 years ago
Do they need the tech to reach us? Dude your a douche. All they have to do is set off a few nukes and we are all screwed. Howard hasn't even mentioned taking action against iran. But Kevin Rudd has. obviously you havent come to terms with your anal heroes agenda.
cackle33 4 years ago 2
i called him an howard arse licker coz that is what he is i dont turn poli's into idol's or hero's. now to your nuclear bomb idea that if one gos off it will be the end of us all what a load of shit two were dropped on japan and we are still here.second of all we dont fight other peoples battles that have gone on for centurys . and is mad to try.
sgtkicker111 4 years ago
vote for howard and watch him go in if bush gos he will be there . he will support bush all the way .
by the way what is howards policy on iraq how much money was in the budget for the iraq people .and i keep telling you morons i dont like rudd he is a bible thumper like howard and when it comes to war i dont trust either but i will not trust that lieing piece of shit howard or vote for him.
sgtkicker111 4 years ago
and crackhead33 iran is within the law
they have not broken any laws
stop listening to bush who is talking ww3 now.
wait and watch as bush gos to work on iran and come up with some bullshit reason to go in its coming.
and with howard you know we are in to. simple question for you . are you going to join the army. navy. and head off into a bullshit war
sgtkicker111 4 years ago
but to vote howard back in when there is danger of more war is to vote for war coz he will go .dont kid yourself howard is a fucking maniac.are you going to sign up to the army/navy sometime soon are you ready to put your feet on iran /iraq/afganistan soil
you sure dont mind shooting your mouth off in here .
sgtkicker111 4 years ago
Howard is not a maniac. No one seems to remember the peacekeepers he sent into east timor. Nor the billions of dollars he donated to Timor and Indonesia.
We are hardly involved as it is in war. 1500 troops is hardly a battalion.
Chaosmongers666 4 years ago
timor big deal he also supported vietnam which turns out was a big mistake.
and israel there going backwards they have different sections on busses for woman .the religious nutters are going to take control
of that country again .isarel extreamists
against palestine extreamists why should i even care. let alone fight for them fuck that
there been at it for centurys
sgtkicker111 4 years ago
It was labor who sent the troops INTO vietnam in the first place i remember. Who said we are going to fight for them? Kevin Rudd is the only person who has mentioned taking action against Iran. SO go figure.
Chaosmongers666 4 years ago
once again you have it wrong.
take a look at the video on my page where he talks about that very subject he dosent say he is going in to iran but he dosent say he wont it all depends on how other countrys handel the situation. and by the way i dont like kevin rudd but i will vote anybody else
that will put howard out.you howard arse licker
sgtkicker111 4 years ago
Well fair enough. But you calling him an "arse licker" really highlights your stupidity and upbringing. Have an argument but dont be a douche about it.
cackle33 4 years ago
do your homework he has said he will pull the troops out of iraq and i dont expect the lot to come out they will leave troops there.coz you cannot just pull out in a split second .
sgtkicker111 4 years ago
No he said "we are in there for the long haul;"
basically he told us he will take troops back when its finished. Kevin Rudd will not take you out of iraq. Possibly only the greens will. Even then I think they would run australia into the ground.
Chaosmongers666 4 years ago
Australia's best PM still kicking it. A man of great wisdom & much respected.
swimming4000 4 years ago
Go Bob!, and BTW, I always thought Bob was an unreconstructed old Zionist.
gadflyzzz 4 years ago
Vintage Hawke: great stuff.
unirover 4 years ago
ughhh c'mon you know our download limit is only 30gb. the video is 9 mins! you even tell me that i shouldnt download ones over 3 mins =(
clashdo 4 years ago
Australian Prime Ministers are always way better after they've been sacked. Why is that?
dodgyville 4 years ago
People actually believe what they say.
volantare 4 years ago
Dodgyville,
It's easier to forgive someone whose sins are in the past.
Progressive75 4 years ago
Yup Bennelong will be the icing on the cake
sneakyam 4 years ago
Nice work, Bob. Still talking sense, 20 odd years on. Loves it.
WhiteRarebit 4 years ago