Karajan - Rehearsal of Schumann's 4th Symphony - Part 3

[jlaurson]

Celluloid was expensive. :-)

[mrdarcyme]

The musicians must have good memory to keep track of everything K wants. Very interesting upload, thanks.

[SeanMcHugh00]

Just don't mess, okay?!

[sherwig07]

when was this taped again?

[sherwig07]

wish to have more instructive video rehearsals such as this. our local conductors really sucks.

[spiritfool]

I really like Karajan. I have recorded a lot of orchestras, and even with this video that was produced with limited technology, i can identify the instruments. Every change he makes makes musical sense, and the orchestra is really amazing that they are able to do it.

[kissbigego]

very moving stuff. For someone not really acquainted with his work it's quite moving to see the attention to detail in this rehearsal

[1mane2]

Es un placer seguir los ensayos de Karajan. Ayudan a entender el significado de la música.

[hongyimo]

i don't know any truth behind the scene, but wiener phil that time sounded really bad. maybe because of the recording?

[z0tx]

@hongyimo

First of all this is Wiener Symphoniker, and second this is an old recording, obviously the sound isn't perfect

[darkprose]

It becomes kind of pretentious when people continue to say "this is not an actual rehearsal." We all know Karajan was a shameless self-promoter, that he was heavily involved in editing his films, etc. Who cares? That's like saying, you know, don't be scared when you watch Jurassic Park, the dinosaurs are fake. Duh. The point is that this is educational and entertaining. Besides, from interviews it appears this IS how Karajan conducted (pun intended) himself anyway.

[Agomongo1235]

@darkprose i dont get it wats the pun intended for

[darkprose]

@Agomongo1235 You know, conducted...he was a conductor. I didn't say it was a good pun.

[Agomongo1235]

@darkprose i never said it was a good pun

[darkprose]

@Agomongo1235 WELL, this has been a very productive discussion. Good day.

[rickypix]

I have to say, if you think this is an actual rehearsal you've fallen into the public relations trap; this is an arranged and edited Karajan-op, just like the Bernstein-op and the Celibedache-op. Actual Bernstein rehearsals were a revelation, because so little was apparently happening and so much was getting done.

[cellospot]

I guess that's a good thing, huh? Or else Karajan wouldn't be demonstrating as much and music students wouldn't be able to learn from him quite as much. :)

[SonofDostojevskij]

This orcestra is cind of stupid actually, does the same mistakes over and over again.

[Impressionist1]

Have You ever been in an intensive rehearsal? It's not easy to think and do all the things right away. It's not thinking only about music, but also the technique,dynamic and many other things, and at the same time playing with passion! Whose the stupid one?! It's easy for people to judge. It's the best thing that people can do actually...

[SonofDostojevskij]

I actually have, not with a pieace like this though.

[pinky0926]

If the Berlin Philharmonic can be considered a "stupid" orchestra for not being able to instantly adapt to Karajan's imposing demands instantly and on the fly, then there's no hope for music.

[SonofDostojevskij]

Ha ha, thats true.

[7777Scion]

@SonofDostojevskij Yes, almost as stupid as spelling 'kind' as 'cind' - you are a rare form of idiot. Tell me, were you dropped on your head when very small, or are your parents brother and sister?

[SonofDostojevskij]

@7777Scion Yeah probably. I’m not that good at English spelling and I agree, of course their not stupid. But please lets stop calling each others idiots. I’m not and I’m shore you’re not to.

[JorPove]

Toda la sinfonia ,segun explica Karajan es unpretexto de Schuman para construir un "obstinato" a punta de cambios sutiles o drasticos-segun el momento- en las mismas notas y en las mismas melodias. Y al final cuando termina la sinfonia no nos hemos dado cuenta racionalmente de este detalle "tecnico", sino de que hemos escuchado una pieza verdaderamente sublime. He ahi el genio del compositor y la "capacidad" de Karajan de explicarlo de manera sencilla.Muy instructivo.

[yishujia0915]

genius

[contrabone]

I love that the rehearsal's momento never slowed. He kept them going constantly, never wasting a second. Brilliant!

[ZeroSynth]

Comes from practice.

[juanpeople]

i loved karajan

[heifetzthemonster]

simplesmente genial

[sychoi2002]

cool

[reflectum]

N 1

[robertledou]

super video

tres interessante et instructive sur les methodes de travail de karajan

[robertledou]

yeah