Won't be long before it will become egypt, if government kept cutting funds like that.. you have closed libraries now.. u are after volunteers now... what a shame.... Government is creating catastrophe.... c'mon people lets teach british mubarak a lesson... in more mannerful way though ;)
These people are literally incomprehensible, particularly the man who believed in "conservatism", not the "progressivism" behind Liberalism - how anyone can switch from a party that backs progressive taxation, electoral reform, a genuinely green economy, soft power in foreign policy, and the EU, to a party that believes in absolutely none of those things is beyond me.
Money couldn't buy my vote 4 the corupt war mongering labour and conservative parties. Doesn't matter how many leaflets, billboard posters, press conferences and PR stunts like this that Cameron Conservatives do.
LIb Dem party has EARNED my vote without spending a penny, 4 putting principles above political ambition.
Money couldn't buy my vote 4 the corupt labour and conservative parties. Doesn't matter how many leaflets, billboard posters, press conferences etc. that Brown- Labour and Cameron- Conservatives have.
LIb Dems have earned my vote without spending a penny, 4 putting principles above political ambition.
cameron, brown and clegg are puppets (with the same advisors) as is any party that keeps this country in the EU, they have all been commiting treason since the 1972 parliament act when edward heath illegaly took us into the EU (No foreign power is legally allowed to have control over our land)...our queen should be standing up for her people and this Island yet she stands by and does nothing as our libertys, rights and freedoms have been stripped from us... VOTE UKIP (UK INDEPENDANCE PARTY)
And if the Tories gave a referendum on whether we should stay in the EU or not, then they would get all of the UKIP voters as well and win the election - so why don't they do this? They supposedly are against big government but do not oppose the implementation of a big government European superstate - stupid.
i ageee with hoping the lib dems stay lib dems, but tories? open minded? no chance, remember the tories are the party which wants to enforce their own morals and values in the UK, they are the party which will ban more victimless crimes and are deffo the most supressive of the 3 main parties.
I don't know why i got a thumbs down,maybe i wasn't clear enough.What i was trying to say was,was the fact that the liberals are more open minded than the Tories and that the conservatives are more open minded than what they were before.P.S those candidates never were what i call a true Lib Dems if they keep moving about!!!
One of the other reasons they've switched is because they're dirty filthy rats. It's true that Clegg is a patsy & the Lib Dems are a side show. Norsheen BHATTI? I do hope she gave her parents hell for that. She'll be one of 'Camerons babes'. LOL @ Mr Cameron pretending to look interested 0:41-0:44
"But Conservative, because our [foreign] policy must be hard-headed and practical, dealing with the world as it is and not as we wish it were."
(from the Conservatives web site)
practical, spiritual, ethical, with a soft gooey head sometimes. The world is what we make of it. 'Utopia' isn't real. It's a journey, a dream. When you make it a destination, it is even less real. That's my two pennies. David Cameron is a good family man, but what does he think about hedge funds?
Well I shall keep saying this until the cows come home..
Mr Cameron if you want to be worthy of our vote then make a solemn pledge to restore this country to the proper rule of law, i.e. Common Law (not the legal trash that is just illusionary and keeps people in ignorance).
This alone will restore our PROPER human rights and liberties and make us proud to be a free country.
The EU is an encroaching monster also and you know this so give us the choice and we will tell them to shove it.
Fascinating stuff. What's interesting is that almost all of these former parliamentary candidates were rejected by their membership in favour of other candidates. One wonders what they would be doing now if they'd been selected. We shouldn't ignore that spite probably plays a large role in why these people crossed over. At the bottom of the screen for each one it should say "failed" former parliamentary candidate. It seems the members were absolutely wise in rejecting these sorry creatures.
Lets all hope they cut the bearaucrasy & top-down targets that hinder decent, hard working, people from achieving their potential.
I have been unemployed for the best part of 5 years. I been in retail catering mgt for 10 years, I can program in high level languages, including assembler, I am proficient in many engineering diciplines & Physics. Yet I go into a "job centre" & i'm treated like im inumerate, illiterate & workshy but anything I try to do to get back to work is blocked by "rules".
play it my way, I am on Income Support, and was previously allowed to work up to 16 hours per week, I am registered self-employed with the DWP. It is just a matter of going self-employed and learning to sell, which a lot of computer programmers find difficult. I am on the sick also due to Manic Depression/Bipolar Disorder and because of that I can work more than 16 hrs but can't earn more than an average £90 extra per week - I am a computer programmer and Internet Consultant since 1995 honest
I find David Cameron really annoying? He is ALWAYS angry looking, always the first to jump on some bandwagon, to point a finger...I am exchauted by him. The idea of him as PM and seeing and hearing his whinning leacturing voice for 4 years may just cause me to live the country. Brown lack character, but at least he work hard and has substance. DC is defintely not Obama...sorry Tories! I rather vote Lib Dem than Tories...wolves in sheeps clothing. Any idea what they are offering this time?
the Tories have gone all Multicultural - 'a broader church' they are not a religion love, 'them and us' you will find out - none of the 3 parties are suitable, I will be doing my bit and standing against Jack Straw in Blackburn where I live in the middle of a Muslim Community - I'm shouting 'Tories Out' before they even get in which they probably will do - watch some of my videos and see who controls the weak politicians, it is not the leaders of the parties - worry your lives away
What a sad roomful of haven't beens and never was's. With all the over-inflated egos jostling for position I'm surprised there was space for a camera.
Liberals have always been two parties: left v right of centre. Those, like me, coming over to the Conservatives are right of centre: Liberals, who were never really Lib Dems but who had no political alternative until you became leader.
We're one nationists who fight for civil liberties, detest authoritarianism, loathe the undemocratic EU and love enterprise and individualism.
We could never have supported Thatcher, but we support you!
We could never have supported Thatcher either especially when the police were attacking the Miners - the working classes will rule forever one day soon
As they do under the Labour party now? They're more downtrodden than ever under Labour. It's not the working class who rule under the various manifestations of socialism, trumpet, but those who live parasitically off of them: socialist politicians, filling their boots with the hard earned pay of the working class.
Amazing how quickly the US economy tanked at the sight of a liberal government. Sorry 'bout the ripple effects. We'll have our country straightened out in 2010, or at least on the road back there.
You mean like Labour and Tony Blair's "big tent" nonsense in 1996/7. Then they win so massively they just stick two fingers up at everyone and tell them where they can shove their consultation/power-sharing deal
exactly, made worse by the fact that 101 seat labour swing involved bringing a hell of a lot of unexperienced MPs, and now everyone hates the MPs we got due to expenses etc, we're gonna get loads who dont have a clue what they're doing!
One of the many problems of democracy lol! But there isnt much that can be done about inexperienced but popular people winning, it is inherent in democracy.
All politicians promise change. And that is what we never get. They are all full of shit. Show me a politician who will change anything, and I`ll vote in favour.
If you vote, you will vote for nothing. Because the rich will continue to be rich, the MP`s will continue to have their good life, and the poor will continue to pick up the bill. Mark my words.
If I became PM tomorrow, all mp`s would earn the average wage - to reflect the average man on the street.
All remember that libertarianism beats totalitarianism every time. Socialism equals totalitarianism. Clement Attlee, the hero of Labour, kept up Identity cards after the end of World War two and actually increased the information on them. He was forced to back down thanks to a public backlash, lets make sure Labour is forced to back down again!
In what sense does Libertarianism beat Totalitarianism every time?
From the perspective of a nation fighting a war, surely a totalitarian set-up, where the government uses the power of the collective, is more effective than a Libertarian set-up where you cannot even harness a big army together.
Indeed, Britain found in WW1 that she had to few volunteers for her war effort, Thus she brought in compulsory volunteering in 1916 conscription.
Britain, the most Libertarian country in Europe beat Germany, perphaps the most totalitarian. In the Napoleonic wars the Libertarian British beat the Totalitarian French. Of course in emergencies certain totalitarian policies have to be taken up in emergencies but in the long term the libertarian country is wealthier, the people are better off, and the country is, overall, generally safer. We were the country to create the industrial revolution due to our libertarian ways.
Britain used its Empire and its French, Russian, Italian and American allies to defeat Germany and Austria in WW1.
Was this a fair match? In manpower terms, certainly not. In financial terms, no. In geographical terms, with Britain having access to all the seas, again no. I think if you thought about WW1 deeply rather than glibly, you will see the relative libertarianism of Britain was irrelevant to her victory over Germany.
The industrial revolution was not a spin off from libertarianism. It was a spin off from people like Isaac Newton who furthered science, and also a desire by individuals to use this science to reduce business costs and enhance profit.
I call that capitalism merging with science. I do not call that Libertarianism.
Unlike in other countries the British people were far more free to work where they wanted, for who they wanted, and make money any way they wanted. This initially led to the quite brutal agricultural revolution where landlords maximised efficiency and increased both amount of food and profit, making the country wealthier and more populace. This new found wealth could be used by the landlords to invest in the scientific inventions while the increase in population could man the new factories
New technology is no good without investment, it lies dormant. In the totalitarian states advancement was suppressed as it affected the stability of the regime. The industrialization would damage the complete domination of the aristocracy, the only ones loyal to the monarchs. Later on a more educated populace would also challenge the position of the rulers. Thus it had to be suppressed, and hence France and Russia. We were one of the first to get rid of serfdom etc, which allowed us to advance
Fact is this. The Conservative Party has never been a Libertarian Party.
To be a Conservative is first and foremost to care about your community and to want to preserve it for future generations. In short, Conservatives care about identity and culture.
As liberty is part of our history, Conservatives cherish this. But they cherish a freedom embedded in our culture, not the abstract human rights liverty of Liberals and Libertarians!
Yes the Conservative party in Britain protects peoples freedoms and rights, not the modern infatuation of the word HUMAN rights, but those rights that people like Jean-Jacques Rousseau and those barons who forced King John to sign the Magna Carta were aiming at. The ones we have had for hundreds of years.
Thatcher defended the freedom of homoeconomicus. That is, the freedoms Adam Smith postulated man had.
Rousseau is a total irrelevance to the British history. In intellectual thought, J S Mill, Adam Smith and Edmund Burke are the most effective thinks on British policy. Then it is John Maynard Keynes, William Beveridge and Von Hayek.
These man are all tilted towards a type of liberty. For Burke it is a liberty inherited over time. For Mill it is freedom as autonomy defeating custom. For Smith is economic liberty. Then Keynes attempts to make liberty consistent with good living standers.
None of the above, save maybe Hayek, is a Libertairan. And Hayek was wrong, but alas, too heavily influenced the Conservative Party
The fundamental and core foundations on which the freedoms of the people of the United Kingdom are based are the 800 year old Magna Carta and the 400 year old Habaeus Corpus. These men you mention all had an influence (of course Edmund Burke is the founder of what we call conservatism and had the most) but their influence built on the two foundation stones of our constitution
Magna Carta is a total irrelevance to our constitution today. It is solely a stepping stone to the creation of our constituion rather than an active element.
Heabeus corpus is important.
But the men I mentioned are totally fundamental. Smith and Keynes have formed our economic policy and therefore how our business sector and our employees make a living.
J S Mill provided a moral foundation for the Liberalism of this nation. That is, the indiviudal knows better than any other.
Cameron will not make Britain a great nation. He will watch as China, India and Brazil overtake us in economic size, meaning his power in the world is totally reduced.
A the same time, Cameron's social, moral and cultural policy will further enocurage the many nations within our one country, causing suspicion and disunity.
Finally, we will have high unemployment, no major industry except the City, and thus no power.
PS Winston Spencer-Churchill was a Conservative (like his father the Right Honourable Lord Randolph Churchill) but who became a Liberal, friendly with Lloyd George, before becoming a Conservative again
As a former Liberal Democrat candidate I support the request that Liberal Democrats vote Conservative. I have not discarded Liberalism; it is because the Progressive Conservatism embraces Liberal Democrat ideology.
Conservatives and Liberals united in voting for Ghurkhas to remain in Britain and in opposition to the ID cards. They share a history, rising together through the evolution of Parliamentary democracy. Liberals and Conservatives are libertarian rather than authoritarian.
As a Conservative, I call on all Conservatives to think twice about voting for Cameron.
Cameron may talk a generally free market game, but when it comes to social, cultural and moral issues, he is clearly a Multiculturalist, a Liberal, and represents the nonsense positions that have destroyed the identity of this nation.
If you think it is vital for Britain to have as strong a national identify as the Chinese, Indians, or Americans, dnt vote for Cameron. Cameron hates British culture.
Because compassionate conservatism worked so well for the Bush administration? I hope Daniel Hannan will influence the Conservatives in a more pro-individual liberty direction, and away from the EU.
I had always known that Conservatives had great policies. It is about time we had someone like David Cameron who not only talks, but takes action. This sets him aside from other leaders.
I have noticed that Nick Clegg dresses and talks like David Cameron, and the Lib Dems have also transformed its conference stage to be an exact replica of a Tory Conference stage!!!
Hasan, you're absolutely right about following the teacher and not the student, I have seen similarities in techniques used by David Cameron mimicked by Clegg.
1) He is committed, via his rhetoric, to aggressive fiscal restraint. This means reduced demand in our economy and thus unemployment;
2) He has no clear plan on how to reduce unemployment;
3) He will not adequately reduce immigration;
4) He is not committed to the integration of our communities into a British mindset. He prefers multiculturalism. As the 21st century will see powerful national blocks like China and America, we will be divided.
Won't be long before it will become egypt, if government kept cutting funds like that.. you have closed libraries now.. u are after volunteers now... what a shame.... Government is creating catastrophe.... c'mon people lets teach british mubarak a lesson... in more mannerful way though ;)
crackingguy123 11 months ago
Oh the Irony!
kavyman1066 1 year ago
These people are literally incomprehensible, particularly the man who believed in "conservatism", not the "progressivism" behind Liberalism - how anyone can switch from a party that backs progressive taxation, electoral reform, a genuinely green economy, soft power in foreign policy, and the EU, to a party that believes in absolutely none of those things is beyond me.
ThePretender4 1 year ago
Show me a young Conservative and I`ll show you someone with no heart. Show me an old Liberal and I`ll show you someone with no brains.
ssurreydocks 1 year ago
Asian, ex-liberal democrats welcomed into the Conservative party??!! Well, this video has certainly convinced me that the Tories have changed.
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LIb Dem party has EARNED my vote without spending a penny, 4 putting principles above political ambition.
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LIb Dems have earned my vote without spending a penny, 4 putting principles above political ambition.
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MaSteRKuSH010 1 year ago
LIB/LAB/CON Party
check out Brian Gerrish on utube 'child stealing by the state'
If you really want to know the truth
CorruptCourts 2 years ago 3
the tories keep homosexuals behind closed doors-where they belong....
PeteGeeza86 2 years ago
cameron, brown and clegg are puppets (with the same advisors) as is any party that keeps this country in the EU, they have all been commiting treason since the 1972 parliament act when edward heath illegaly took us into the EU (No foreign power is legally allowed to have control over our land)...our queen should be standing up for her people and this Island yet she stands by and does nothing as our libertys, rights and freedoms have been stripped from us... VOTE UKIP (UK INDEPENDANCE PARTY)
catchtwenty2ube 2 years ago
Or alternatively, a party which can spell its own name.
AdamGillett 2 years ago
And if the Tories gave a referendum on whether we should stay in the EU or not, then they would get all of the UKIP voters as well and win the election - so why don't they do this? They supposedly are against big government but do not oppose the implementation of a big government European superstate - stupid.
ddpoops2929 2 years ago
I hope a lot of Lib Dems stay with their party and don't move to the right.Even though the conservatives are more open minded.
renaultlover1 2 years ago
i ageee with hoping the lib dems stay lib dems, but tories? open minded? no chance, remember the tories are the party which wants to enforce their own morals and values in the UK, they are the party which will ban more victimless crimes and are deffo the most supressive of the 3 main parties.
ImEuanAndIGotsSkeelz 2 years ago 3
I don't know why i got a thumbs down,maybe i wasn't clear enough.What i was trying to say was,was the fact that the liberals are more open minded than the Tories and that the conservatives are more open minded than what they were before.P.S those candidates never were what i call a true Lib Dems if they keep moving about!!!
renaultlover1 2 years ago
the white are disapearing rapidly. its frightning.
razryan 2 years ago 3
One of the other reasons they've switched is because they're dirty filthy rats. It's true that Clegg is a patsy & the Lib Dems are a side show. Norsheen BHATTI? I do hope she gave her parents hell for that. She'll be one of 'Camerons babes'. LOL @ Mr Cameron pretending to look interested 0:41-0:44
olsjcc 2 years ago
The reason they've come over is that they care more about being in Government than fighting for their principles.
BeetzartMusic 2 years ago 3
I agree. This is fake or they they care more about money in their pocket to campaign for tax cuts for the rich.
0613162k 2 years ago 3
clearly the prospect of getting a real job is quite frightful.
BigJamesTheAngry 2 years ago
thinking about it they aint no different to the labour party, forget broader party, vote BNP
Britlandish 2 years ago
they are all black where are the white ones
Britlandish 2 years ago
Give us a referendum on Europe David!!!! Hope you get in next year!!
Britlandish 2 years ago 3
He won't give you a referendum - They're clearly backing out of that at the moment so they're no better then labour
adamscott 2 years ago
"But Conservative, because our [foreign] policy must be hard-headed and practical, dealing with the world as it is and not as we wish it were."
(from the Conservatives web site)
practical, spiritual, ethical, with a soft gooey head sometimes. The world is what we make of it. 'Utopia' isn't real. It's a journey, a dream. When you make it a destination, it is even less real. That's my two pennies. David Cameron is a good family man, but what does he think about hedge funds?
squidcreek 2 years ago
Well I shall keep saying this until the cows come home..
Mr Cameron if you want to be worthy of our vote then make a solemn pledge to restore this country to the proper rule of law, i.e. Common Law (not the legal trash that is just illusionary and keeps people in ignorance).
This alone will restore our PROPER human rights and liberties and make us proud to be a free country.
The EU is an encroaching monster also and you know this so give us the choice and we will tell them to shove it.
GeneHunt1973 2 years ago
Fascinating stuff. What's interesting is that almost all of these former parliamentary candidates were rejected by their membership in favour of other candidates. One wonders what they would be doing now if they'd been selected. We shouldn't ignore that spite probably plays a large role in why these people crossed over. At the bottom of the screen for each one it should say "failed" former parliamentary candidate. It seems the members were absolutely wise in rejecting these sorry creatures.
BenedictGreening 2 years ago
Your choices end up being:
Follow the rules, get nowhere and became more unemployable with every day.
Do something sensible to find work but esentially commit fraud because as sensible and logical as it may be, the "rules" do not allow it.
I'm sick of it! This government has a one-size-fits-all approach to everything but in reality does nothing for most.
And the lie works because thier schemes & initiatives appeal to those who won't actually be forced to use them.
skeletorphd 2 years ago
Lets all hope they cut the bearaucrasy & top-down targets that hinder decent, hard working, people from achieving their potential.
I have been unemployed for the best part of 5 years. I been in retail catering mgt for 10 years, I can program in high level languages, including assembler, I am proficient in many engineering diciplines & Physics. Yet I go into a "job centre" & i'm treated like im inumerate, illiterate & workshy but anything I try to do to get back to work is blocked by "rules".
skeletorphd 2 years ago
play it my way, I am on Income Support, and was previously allowed to work up to 16 hours per week, I am registered self-employed with the DWP. It is just a matter of going self-employed and learning to sell, which a lot of computer programmers find difficult. I am on the sick also due to Manic Depression/Bipolar Disorder and because of that I can work more than 16 hrs but can't earn more than an average £90 extra per week - I am a computer programmer and Internet Consultant since 1995 honest
trumpettelly 2 years ago
I find David Cameron really annoying? He is ALWAYS angry looking, always the first to jump on some bandwagon, to point a finger...I am exchauted by him. The idea of him as PM and seeing and hearing his whinning leacturing voice for 4 years may just cause me to live the country. Brown lack character, but at least he work hard and has substance. DC is defintely not Obama...sorry Tories! I rather vote Lib Dem than Tories...wolves in sheeps clothing. Any idea what they are offering this time?
hope4thepeople 2 years ago
At 1:18 he says "Them and us". Yes that has happened under Labour and will happen under the Conservatives.
renaultlover1 2 years ago
the Tories have gone all Multicultural - 'a broader church' they are not a religion love, 'them and us' you will find out - none of the 3 parties are suitable, I will be doing my bit and standing against Jack Straw in Blackburn where I live in the middle of a Muslim Community - I'm shouting 'Tories Out' before they even get in which they probably will do - watch some of my videos and see who controls the weak politicians, it is not the leaders of the parties - worry your lives away
trumpettelly 2 years ago
liberal democrats=epic fail!
GEORGIANGUSTIL 2 years ago
What a sad roomful of haven't beens and never was's. With all the over-inflated egos jostling for position I'm surprised there was space for a camera.
Ekklektika 2 years ago
Chuckle - you are witty ;-)
trumpettelly 2 years ago
Good luck in 2010, David, knock the Brown and Labour dictatorship into the political wilderness for generations and give us our freedom back!
Roseaeae 2 years ago 3
Another Liberal convert here, David!
Liberals have always been two parties: left v right of centre. Those, like me, coming over to the Conservatives are right of centre: Liberals, who were never really Lib Dems but who had no political alternative until you became leader.
We're one nationists who fight for civil liberties, detest authoritarianism, loathe the undemocratic EU and love enterprise and individualism.
We could never have supported Thatcher, but we support you!
Roseaeae 2 years ago 3
We could never have supported Thatcher either especially when the police were attacking the Miners - the working classes will rule forever one day soon
trumpettelly 2 years ago
As they do under the Labour party now? They're more downtrodden than ever under Labour. It's not the working class who rule under the various manifestations of socialism, trumpet, but those who live parasitically off of them: socialist politicians, filling their boots with the hard earned pay of the working class.
Roseaeae 2 years ago
Amazing how quickly the US economy tanked at the sight of a liberal government. Sorry 'bout the ripple effects. We'll have our country straightened out in 2010, or at least on the road back there.
oldNavyJZ 2 years ago
conservatism is always the answer! :) im a american but glad to see the conservative party thriving across the pond!
dee150586 2 years ago
It's not conservative and it's not thriving. Only 40% of the public would vote for it. 60% would not.
churchillwinstonspen 2 years ago
"who... who's the team?"
give this woman a medal.
FlabberFlob 2 years ago
These poor "Limp Democraps" have finally seen the light and joined the only group that ever has and ever wil matter.
theredraven 2 years ago
The former Lib Dems guys only joined because the Conservatives will win next year.
darkastonvillafan 2 years ago 2
what ball crap!
'conservatives will give power back to the people'
what, wil their projected 100 plus majority that can do ever they like! why would they caare what people want when they can do what they want!
BigJamesTheAngry 2 years ago
You mean like Labour and Tony Blair's "big tent" nonsense in 1996/7. Then they win so massively they just stick two fingers up at everyone and tell them where they can shove their consultation/power-sharing deal
thebigJM92 2 years ago
exactly, made worse by the fact that 101 seat labour swing involved bringing a hell of a lot of unexperienced MPs, and now everyone hates the MPs we got due to expenses etc, we're gonna get loads who dont have a clue what they're doing!
BigJamesTheAngry 2 years ago
One of the many problems of democracy lol! But there isnt much that can be done about inexperienced but popular people winning, it is inherent in democracy.
thebigJM92 2 years ago
good stuff ! power to the people!
benbarclay20 2 years ago 2
All politicians promise change. And that is what we never get. They are all full of shit. Show me a politician who will change anything, and I`ll vote in favour.
If you vote, you will vote for nothing. Because the rich will continue to be rich, the MP`s will continue to have their good life, and the poor will continue to pick up the bill. Mark my words.
If I became PM tomorrow, all mp`s would earn the average wage - to reflect the average man on the street.
morgandrim 2 years ago
If you became PM tommorow you'd probably fail horribly.
Remember, politics is so much more complex than what you see on the surface.
theredraven 2 years ago
Hi theredraven. I`d be joining the majority, then !
morgandrim 2 years ago
All remember that libertarianism beats totalitarianism every time. Socialism equals totalitarianism. Clement Attlee, the hero of Labour, kept up Identity cards after the end of World War two and actually increased the information on them. He was forced to back down thanks to a public backlash, lets make sure Labour is forced to back down again!
thebigJM92 2 years ago
big JM92,
In what sense does Libertarianism beat Totalitarianism every time?
From the perspective of a nation fighting a war, surely a totalitarian set-up, where the government uses the power of the collective, is more effective than a Libertarian set-up where you cannot even harness a big army together.
Indeed, Britain found in WW1 that she had to few volunteers for her war effort, Thus she brought in compulsory volunteering in 1916 conscription.
churchillwinstonspen 2 years ago
Britain, the most Libertarian country in Europe beat Germany, perphaps the most totalitarian. In the Napoleonic wars the Libertarian British beat the Totalitarian French. Of course in emergencies certain totalitarian policies have to be taken up in emergencies but in the long term the libertarian country is wealthier, the people are better off, and the country is, overall, generally safer. We were the country to create the industrial revolution due to our libertarian ways.
thebigJM92 2 years ago
Britain used its Empire and its French, Russian, Italian and American allies to defeat Germany and Austria in WW1.
Was this a fair match? In manpower terms, certainly not. In financial terms, no. In geographical terms, with Britain having access to all the seas, again no. I think if you thought about WW1 deeply rather than glibly, you will see the relative libertarianism of Britain was irrelevant to her victory over Germany.
churchillwinstonspen 2 years ago
The industrial revolution was not a spin off from libertarianism. It was a spin off from people like Isaac Newton who furthered science, and also a desire by individuals to use this science to reduce business costs and enhance profit.
I call that capitalism merging with science. I do not call that Libertarianism.
churchillwinstonspen 2 years ago
Unlike in other countries the British people were far more free to work where they wanted, for who they wanted, and make money any way they wanted. This initially led to the quite brutal agricultural revolution where landlords maximised efficiency and increased both amount of food and profit, making the country wealthier and more populace. This new found wealth could be used by the landlords to invest in the scientific inventions while the increase in population could man the new factories
thebigJM92 2 years ago
New technology is no good without investment, it lies dormant. In the totalitarian states advancement was suppressed as it affected the stability of the regime. The industrialization would damage the complete domination of the aristocracy, the only ones loyal to the monarchs. Later on a more educated populace would also challenge the position of the rulers. Thus it had to be suppressed, and hence France and Russia. We were one of the first to get rid of serfdom etc, which allowed us to advance
thebigJM92 2 years ago
Fact is this. The Conservative Party has never been a Libertarian Party.
To be a Conservative is first and foremost to care about your community and to want to preserve it for future generations. In short, Conservatives care about identity and culture.
As liberty is part of our history, Conservatives cherish this. But they cherish a freedom embedded in our culture, not the abstract human rights liverty of Liberals and Libertarians!
We believe in Conservative freedom!
churchillwinstonspen 2 years ago 2
Yes the Conservative party in Britain protects peoples freedoms and rights, not the modern infatuation of the word HUMAN rights, but those rights that people like Jean-Jacques Rousseau and those barons who forced King John to sign the Magna Carta were aiming at. The ones we have had for hundreds of years.
thebigJM92 2 years ago
Thatcher defended the freedom of homoeconomicus. That is, the freedoms Adam Smith postulated man had.
Rousseau is a total irrelevance to the British history. In intellectual thought, J S Mill, Adam Smith and Edmund Burke are the most effective thinks on British policy. Then it is John Maynard Keynes, William Beveridge and Von Hayek.
churchillwinstonspen 2 years ago
These man are all tilted towards a type of liberty. For Burke it is a liberty inherited over time. For Mill it is freedom as autonomy defeating custom. For Smith is economic liberty. Then Keynes attempts to make liberty consistent with good living standers.
None of the above, save maybe Hayek, is a Libertairan. And Hayek was wrong, but alas, too heavily influenced the Conservative Party
.
churchillwinstonspen 2 years ago
The fundamental and core foundations on which the freedoms of the people of the United Kingdom are based are the 800 year old Magna Carta and the 400 year old Habaeus Corpus. These men you mention all had an influence (of course Edmund Burke is the founder of what we call conservatism and had the most) but their influence built on the two foundation stones of our constitution
thebigJM92 2 years ago
Magna Carta is a total irrelevance to our constitution today. It is solely a stepping stone to the creation of our constituion rather than an active element.
Heabeus corpus is important.
But the men I mentioned are totally fundamental. Smith and Keynes have formed our economic policy and therefore how our business sector and our employees make a living.
J S Mill provided a moral foundation for the Liberalism of this nation. That is, the indiviudal knows better than any other.
churchillwinstonspen 2 years ago
As it is, it does not matter.
Cameron will not make Britain a great nation. He will watch as China, India and Brazil overtake us in economic size, meaning his power in the world is totally reduced.
A the same time, Cameron's social, moral and cultural policy will further enocurage the many nations within our one country, causing suspicion and disunity.
Finally, we will have high unemployment, no major industry except the City, and thus no power.
churchillwinstonspen 2 years ago
Not forgetting the 400 year old Habeaus Corpus, which the EU is posing a great threat too
thebigJM92 2 years ago
churchillwinstonspen:
"Conservatives care about identity and culture."
Yeah, you are right, thats why Tories not conservatives since David Cameron's standup.
The Tories actually like a B-class Democratic Party(USA) in UK.
kovacsgaga 2 years ago
PS Winston Spencer-Churchill was a Conservative (like his father the Right Honourable Lord Randolph Churchill) but who became a Liberal, friendly with Lloyd George, before becoming a Conservative again
thebigJM92 2 years ago
Fernando: All this from someone who stood as the Lib Dem Party President a few months ago.
Least your opportunism will fit in with Cameron.
JaneBowie 2 years ago 2
ugh
anon2999 2 years ago
It is good to see Asians joining the party but your video must encourage native English to come over as well
quaips 2 years ago
David demonstrates the bridge to change is a
wide pathway for many diverse members to cross, and this encounter demonstrates his party is dedicated to the process of real change by inviting all!
shiva4u2 2 years ago
Look at this! Even the Lib Dem candidates are ditching their own party to join the Conservatives.
The choice is clear. Vote Conservative.
YudhishthraNathan 2 years ago 4
As a former Liberal Democrat candidate I support the request that Liberal Democrats vote Conservative. I have not discarded Liberalism; it is because the Progressive Conservatism embraces Liberal Democrat ideology.
Conservatives and Liberals united in voting for Ghurkhas to remain in Britain and in opposition to the ID cards. They share a history, rising together through the evolution of Parliamentary democracy. Liberals and Conservatives are libertarian rather than authoritarian.
MrsJane1963 2 years ago 3
As a Conservative, I call on all Conservatives to think twice about voting for Cameron.
Cameron may talk a generally free market game, but when it comes to social, cultural and moral issues, he is clearly a Multiculturalist, a Liberal, and represents the nonsense positions that have destroyed the identity of this nation.
If you think it is vital for Britain to have as strong a national identify as the Chinese, Indians, or Americans, dnt vote for Cameron. Cameron hates British culture.
churchillwinstonspen 2 years ago
Because compassionate conservatism worked so well for the Bush administration? I hope Daniel Hannan will influence the Conservatives in a more pro-individual liberty direction, and away from the EU.
ErikNikolai 2 years ago 3
he needs to be leader
ColonelRoss111 2 years ago 2
I had always known that Conservatives had great policies. It is about time we had someone like David Cameron who not only talks, but takes action. This sets him aside from other leaders.
I have noticed that Nick Clegg dresses and talks like David Cameron, and the Lib Dems have also transformed its conference stage to be an exact replica of a Tory Conference stage!!!
Best to follow the teacher and not the student!
Hasan Ali Imam
Ex-Parliamentary Candidadte (2005)
Conservative Party
hasanimam35 2 years ago 9
Hasan, you're absolutely right about following the teacher and not the student, I have seen similarities in techniques used by David Cameron mimicked by Clegg.
Einy7 2 years ago 5
Hasan,
What is so great about Cameron?
1) He is committed, via his rhetoric, to aggressive fiscal restraint. This means reduced demand in our economy and thus unemployment;
2) He has no clear plan on how to reduce unemployment;
3) He will not adequately reduce immigration;
4) He is not committed to the integration of our communities into a British mindset. He prefers multiculturalism. As the 21st century will see powerful national blocks like China and America, we will be divided.
churchillwinstonspen 2 years ago
and of course, Mr Cameron would not dream of copying the style and substance of one Mr Blair...
BigJamesTheAngry 2 years ago 2