Password 1970's

[thefungarian]

I like the mechanical noises heard as the card changes during the bonus round.

[miamivicepastels83]

lmao at 4:19...i thought he was gonna lean over so far he fall out the seat

[Golbez1991]

This show is really an in-between CBS and NBC's Password. Looks weird, in a good sense. It's like Password is in the Twilight Zone.

[zamusicza]

Is Brett the most famous unfamous person in the world?

[Quindal]

@quindal

[twiztidMage]

I tried to make my password penis but it said it was too short :(

[KIRK976]

I'll bet Jack was tempted to bitch-slap that dumb blond !

[delightfulstar]

I always love seeing Brett and Jack together - fantastic game players, always. He was on Match Game before she was (he was in the pilot!), and actually suggested to the producers that they bring her on and give her a shot on the panel. The rest is history, and Brett became an integral part of MG's success.

[howellfilm]

Jack Klugman is a really nice guy. In the summer of '72, Klugman and Tony Randall toured the country doing THE ODD COUPLE. I was in high school in Toledo and contacted him about doing an intv for the school paper. He invited me over, and gave me a great interview. Most stars would've just ignored me, but he was one of the nicest guys you could ever meet. And, what a talent! He was excellent in other shows as well like the Twilight Zone. Thanks, Jack!

[msdemos]

@howellfilm

Nothing better than finding out the people you admire are as nice as you imagine they are!

Thank you for sharing that, 'howell' !!

[dustin12388]

EVERYONES ON LSD IN THIS SHOW.

[cheyenne86]

I just adore Jack Klugman. loved him in 12 angry men, Odd couple, quincy. Brett was really good with him

[HaySto15]

I love Brett and Jack! They are so cute! :)

[dboy122660]

"Hey..how do you like playing games with your wife?" ;^)

[lorrr55]

@dboy122660 see, back then nobody even laughed at that innuendo, these days everybody would've started laughing. Perverted society...

[dboy122660]

@lorrr55 Yeah,,,Given the non-PC climate back then...

Iam surprised it didnt

generate even a chuckle

I found it amusing..I chuckled

.Not belt busting funny...

but amusing...Innocent

innuendo, in my opinion,

compared to the more

raunchy stuff today...

[wdm1219]

First time we saw Password "PLUS", so to speak....

[delightfulstar]

To cr78fan...Sets from TV shows and movies often are recycled or altered in some form, if possible. On other occasions, an entire set may be scrapped if it's not feasible to reuse any part of it. The labor and material used is often quite costly, and even the most profitable of production companies will keep the bottom line in mind, and will rework or even sell off what they need to.

[cr78fan]

Two Questions:

1. I bought the Game Show Theme Music CD a few yrs ago and this PW theme is on it, but sounds somewhat different (no rhythm on mine.) Why?

2. Does anybody own the rights to sets or are they destroyed after a show's cancellation.

[gamshwfan]

We have here the first Goodson-Toddman game show to tape permanatly in California. Doesn't change the game but we just have the big adjustment which really does work when you think about it; the betting word. Allen is back in his element where we love him and a husband and wife celebrity combo looks great and gives a great flavor to the week. Brett is a low key quick witted Match Game player who does okay here. Jack has great experience playing w/ Randel so he's great.

[hugggyion]

You are th game Show fan, after all...thanks for the dry diatribe!

[lennysvibe]

damn she won 3 games and only won 1100 dollars..lmfao...I know she wish she was playing 1 million dollar password

[nextbarker]

Was Match Game going on during this original airing?

[secondchance1977]

It might have, it might have not. This revival aired from 71-75. By 1973, the format changed in the bonus game so that each word was worth $100, so this must have been before that, so no.

[Hondo20132]

I sure would love to see one of those episodes resurface.

[megamanj2004X]

@secondchance1977 and also w/ the change to the dobuled stakes in the Lightning Round, the maingame changed was also to a best of 3 match.

[Gnillob802]

It would have been funny if for DERBY she gave the clue: HAT.

[GarfieldnPyramid]

mikek1975 Stop rating my comments low and unblock me please or I will report you.

[Stratman78]

Somebody, anybody, tell me! Set the record straight!

I've heard two sources about this video clip. Wikipedia said that this clip is from 1971 (ABC, Week 36: December 6-10, 1971). But the ABC Password page says that it's from 1973 (ABC, Week 133: October 22-26, 1973).

Is this from 1971 or 1973?

[WarioBarker88]

Since Allen says "Happy Tuesday to you", this is either December 7, 1971 or October 23, 1973.

Apparently, the former is the correct date.

[secondchance1977]

This would have been from 1971; By 1973, the bonus round was changed to $100 a word.

[wmbrown6]

There might be a thing to the point about this being December 1971. For one thing, at that time "Password" taped at the Prospect & Talmadge studios, which used Norelco PC-60/70 cameras; by 1973 the show was at the Vine Street studios (don't know if they were still using GE PE-250's there, or if they had such cameras replaced).

[wmbrown6]

And on this clip, the picture quality screams Norelco PC-60/70.

[nycboy3489]

When did GSN air this?

[GarfieldnPyramid]

Sept 11 2006.

[stormthorgerson]

miiiiiiiiinus, opposite... number? 

retard

[gpciie]

Percentage? Stupid stupid stupid.

[munchkinthecat]

I like the set design.

[andybowe]

totally narly dude very cosmic octogons and organge and brown and white lights how 70's yee haww

[gameshowluvr86]

More like hexagons, I think.... But, yeah, awesome set. :-)

[KIRK976]

Bet Jack was tempted to bitch-slap her! LOL

[iCuMlOuD]

Bitch is dumb!

[nextbarker]

Was this version of Password ABC's first daytime game show?

[Hondo20132]

Nope; there was a few in the mid to late '60s (Supermarket Sweep, Let's Make a Deal, .etc).

[GarfieldnPyramid]

Only 7 Supermaket Sweep episodes exist from ABC.

[Hondo20132]

And 1 finally surfaced in the trading circuit!

[GarfieldnPyramid]

Was it one that was erased by ABC?

[secondchance1977]

Nope, the Dating Game was first

[nextbarker]

At first, I thought it was Allen entering from the left, not knowing he comes in the door on the right.

[nextbarker]

Was this John Harlan's first game show assignment?

[banjochris]

Nah, he was the announcer on Queen for a Day. Maybe others too, but that's one I can remember off the top of my head.

[Hondo20132]

Take a look on the far left at 0:30 - :32. You can see some guy backstage.

[nanlisa]

Sorry about that.

[nanlisa]

This was from October of '73. But unfortunately, I was in school when this was on.

[Hondo20132]

Really? I heard from many other sources that this aired on December 1971.

[Hondo20132]

Interesting that the first version wasn't entirely erased, when the second version was.

Pity it was, though.

[AdamStabelli666]

Password one of the greatest game shows of all time. Thank you Bob Stewart for creating such a legendary show that stood the test of time.

[Hondo20132]

Why did GSN air this rarity?

[NJNoob]

In honor of Brett Somers's death.

[Hondo20132]

Do you think they'll reair this during their "Tribute to the 70's" in early September.

[secondchance1977]

I hope so!

[Hondo20132]

Well, they will air Michael Larson's PYL reign in 9/14/2008. I'll tell you that.

[j6282]

how do u kno

[Hondo20132]

During a promo for the '80s marathon, they showed a split-second of Michael.

[nfnelson]

This is what replaced Dark Shadows after ABC pulled the plug on the show. I heard that there were people protesting on the show. I don't know if there is any truth to that, but I read that people weren't happy about it.

[sogood1111]

TRICK.....MISCHIEF!! So easy when the answers are given backstage beforehand, as they are with all quiz game shows.

[Jnelson09Returns]

Do you have any idea how stupid you sound? Get a life.

[Hondo20132]

Go back to the '50s and '60s!

[secondchance1977]

Ah, If this was a B-E produc. you could say that in the 1950's, but this was 1973! They had LAWS about giving away answers, and MG-BT never participated in that nasty sport!

[nanlisa]

If this clip was from October of '73, I had just turned 16, and I was in school when this was on.

[recordman64]

I see a GSN bug on this clip. My understanding is that this particular run of Password is pretty much lost, so how did they come up with this episode of the 'missing' version of Password?

[kes1963]

I think there is more episodes out there that ABC has but arent saying

[recordman64]

ABC would have them? I thought Goodson-Todman would have had the rights...so Fremantle has nothing in their archives?

[kes1963]

there was a show called "before they were stars". they had a segment of people on game shows before they became famous.  One of the people that was on one of those segments went on to become Naomi Judd. this was an abc show, so either freemantle has more eps than they are letting on or ABC does

[kes1963]

i would have said centipede for catapillar

[barber747]

Wow, I've seen all the Passwords except for this one. I heard that virtually every episode has been erased for some reason, I guess b/c preserving the tapes would have been too costly. No wonder I've never seen this incarnation of the show.

[KIRK976]

It's PLUS you stupid bitch!!!

She sure doesn't discourage the stereotype of 'dumb blond' does she???

[gm1990ss]

dumb dora. lol

[jdohe]

how does one get MISCHIEF from Ornriness? I suspect some clues that aren't audible on this clip got overheard by Jack.

[wmbrown6]

Even this tape appears to be from one of the ABC affiliates (KABC, perhaps?), as the "lo-fi" 50 Hz-5 kHz frequency-response audio which betrays a transmission through AT&T phone lines (as common on network TV programming as transmitted across most of the country pre-1978) is in evidence here.

[Chuck1701]

Allen was my favorite host when I was growing up.

[FreeFallin1976]

Allen Ludden is so timeless :) He was always a great host, always charming, and always so very handsome.

[maleadmirer]

I really like this PASSWORD theme song. How long was this version of PASSWORD on TV???

Also, will this version of PASSWORD ever be broadcast again on cable TV???? Thanks again for sharing.

[Jnelson09Returns]

Me too. 1971 to 1975. No, because all but three episodes of the ABC version are gone.

[Stratman78]

Out of the 1,099 ABC/Password episodes, 8 are in the UCLA TV & Film Archives, 3 are on the trading circuit, and The Museum of TV & Radio might have a handful as well. A second studio master, from 1972 and with Sheila MacRae and Martin Milner, is also known to have survived. The rest were reused for Family Feud & The Better Sex (that show got erased also).

The theme song on this version of Password is supposedly called "The Fun Of It"

[Jnelson09Returns]

Intresting. Why wasn't Family Feud erased (I'm not complaining, but it seems weird.

[Stratman78]

I think Family Feud was "the" game show for ABC at that time. That's probably the reason why ABC won't erase them.

A wishful thought would be that someone or somebody take the reused Video tapes & disect the tapes to try to get the original programs that were recorded over. Could this happen? It might or might not.

[Jnelson09Returns]

I don't think that's possible. Besides, that would probably destroy what we have.

[midknightryder13]

Well, no - because all of the FF eps have been transferred to digital media. But one wonders if the tapes even EXIST any more. I, too, wish there were a way to recover the ABC Password/Password All-Stars run. And yes, P A-S is considered to be a bad incarnation, but the version of Password (with civilians) that became, I always thought was one of the BEST! Besides, it had the BEST Password theme EVER!

[secondchance1977]

It is ACTULLY pheasible to discreet the tape to get the original recording. I did it on a cassette audio before. Maybe they can do it on video?

[GarfieldnPyramid]

Better sex recorded over Second Chance also.

[jeebs15]

what a stupid blonde

[FreeFallin1976]

Allen Ludden = handsome, handsome, handsome!!

[sfxkaboomer]

good grief. PLUS. She's as blonde as they come.

[KoopaKid17]

Yeah, how could she not get that when Jack kept saying "minus" and "opposite"?

[nanlisa]

I just found out that these shows aired the week of October 22-26 of'73. Since this was a Tuesday show, I assume that this originially aired on Octoher 23, 1973. Unfortunately, I was in school at the time.

[wmbrown6]

In short, after Brett became part of the "Match Game" panel lineup.

[peepantsfunny]

Jack looks like he is gonna blow up

[nanlisa]

At least this portioned was saved. I heard that ABC erased over the tapes of this version and that we'd never see the Password from the 70's again. But I still prefer the Password from the 60's.

[Jeff98177]

So do I. I heard that a lot of shows were erased back then and the tapes reused to save money. It's a shame.

[Stratman78]

Why would they erase history? ABC took the "Password" tapes & recorded over for other Goodson-Todman game shows like "The Better Sex" (which all but 4 episodes were erased) and "Family Feud". ABC also erased "Split Second" (2 episodes do exist)

NBC did the same thing with "Knockout" (entirely erased but 1 episode is on the trading circuit), "Concentration" (rumored that the 1958 to 1973 are destroyed) and the Match Game (only 11 episodes exist from 1962 to 1969). Sad indeed.

[secondchance1977]

NBC Are liars! Someone found out they NBC has over 150 episodes of the original "Concentration" in a storage warehouse. And for some reason there keeping this a secret! Why keep it a secret?!

[secondchance1977]

They erased the CBS version of Password as well.

[jellyrewis]

Really? I read that some of the seasons were saved (with the final season or two on color videotape.)

[secondchance1977]

they erased every episode EXCEPT for the color episodes. Only 3 episodes in black and white exsist. BTW on Concentration, not only 150 episodes exsist, ALL the episodes exsist!!!!!

[secondchance1977]

i found 4 epsisodes of password in black and white

[Stratman78]

Secondchance1977, I just stumbled upon the Game Show Convention Center website, and you are right about Concentration! NBC does have all of the episodes. I can't believe it! They need to release it.

As for ABC's Password, The Goodson-Todman catalog still lists the 1971-75 episodes, but it's been rumored that they were erased. Or were they not?

[secondchance1977]

You know what? I was first suprised about Concentraition. Someone needs to edit wikipedia! On Password, i heard through the grapevine on some forums that ABC made 2 copies of each, one in color, one in black and white, and that about 170 black and white episodes exsist, gathering dust in a warehouse.

[Stratman78]

".....170 black and white episodes exsist, gathering dust in a warehouse"

If they're found, they should colorize them!

How about the original Jeopardy! (1964-1975, 1978-79)? Is it true that those tapes do not survive or is NBC lying again?

[secondchance1977]

Im telling you, if there was an award for lying, NBC would win it. Im not sure about jeopardy on 64-75, but 78-79 exsists in entirety. There are kines of jeopardy in black and white and a few tapes, but i think it may be a gonnar, unless someone checks the warehouses!

[storrs19]

I gotta agree. NBC was about the stupidest network when it came to saving things. Can you believe they wiped the first two Super Bowls? Or did they? I wonder if those might exist somewhere. But then we are talking about the network that cut away from that famous NY Jets game to air "Heidi"...and we all know how that turned out. If Concentraion does exist GSN wouldn't air it anyway as they are busy with their original garbage most of the time.

[secondchance1977]

Good thing for NFL. They filmed the bowls as well, and they PARTIALLY exsist. On superbowls, the first one is iffy. The Second exsists in ENTIRETY!

[GarfieldnPyramid]

The pilot exists it was the only episode recorded in b&w the rest even the ones from 1960s were rec in color that's why they were erased. Color video tape was expensive in the 1960s.

[secondchance1977]

NBC is lying AGAIN! Tapes exsist of the 78-79 version. On 64-75, kinescopes and tapes exsist

[Stratman78]

What in the hell is NBC doing? Why are they lying to us? I'm afraid to ask on where you're finding these gems!

[secondchance1977]

one of my friends, who works for NBC, "snoops" in old warehouses and finds these videos. yikes, i think that is illegal!!

she evan spoke to one of the nbc guys to play it and he told him to peep down about or be fired. I hope this wont jeopardize her job. But yes, NBC has many "earased" game shows in entirety! F*CK U NBC FOR NOT SHOWING THEM!!!!!!!!

[Stratman78]

Wow!!!! That is shocking. I'll second that too about NBC. Thank you for sharing the info and your friend risking her neck on finding out about these game shows.

You friend will have to remain annonymous.

[secondchance1977]

Of course she will be annonymous!! I am SO sick on NBC hiding these tapes. I wonder why they wont show them. Maybe there trying to do a time capsul thing, or maybe not to be pressured into selling things. God, the media will harp on their backs if they find out about this. You know that show Mindreaders? Guess what? Supposedly "erased", but exsists! Oh, the things NBC will do

[Stratman78]

If NBC is hiding these shows, I presume that ABC & CBS must be doing the same.

[secondchance1977]

ABC to a lesser extent; CBS tells the truth

[rwboa22]

W Ehnnnnnn...BC!!! Why use the former WNBC-AM call signs, because NBC, both the television networks and the former radio division, were jerks for lying about destroying videotapes and for firing Howard Stern. At least CBS has the honesty of tell us that they destroyed tapes, although they goofed when all episodes of TJW was found in the WCBS-TV vaults, and now enjoying its run on GSN.

[secondchance1977]

yes, cbs usually tells the truth; though more tapes on their shows exsist then abc or nbc.

ABC is in the middle. NBC wins the cake for lying.

[Stratman78]

"On superbowls, the first one is iffy. The Second exsists in ENTIRETY!"

CBS & NBC broadcasted the first Super Bowl. CBS broadcasted Super Bowl II.

Now back in 1991, HBO broadcasted a two-part documentary call "PLAY BY PLAY - A History Of Sports Television." The 2 telecast plays that were shown was Max McGee's opening touchdown and Jim Taylor's touchdown run.

If CBS's broadcast of Super Bowl II fully exist, I wonder why it's not being released to the NFL Network.

[secondchance1977]

Dont ask me! Im not CBS. CBS is kinda dumb in some aspects; they left there Superbowl 2 in an NBC gameshow warehouse!

[msdemos]

@Stratman78

"On superbowls, the first one is iffy. The Second exsists in ENTIRETY!"

I seem to recall hearing more than once that no complete copy of Super Bowl One exists anywhere (that anyone is aware of), which, if you think of it, is somewhat ironic, since it was originally broadcast by TWO networks!

If true, that makes me SICK just thinking about it (not to mention all of the other tv shows/specials/sporting events that have been lost forever because somebody decided to be CHEAP!!!)

[secondchance1977]

you know what stratman? i tried discreeting my tape to get the original recording, and to my surprise, it WORKED! though the quality on both was a bit less than broadcastible. But maybe with some tweaking, we could get the episodes of some "erased" game shows and see the originals, if the process is tweaked :O

[recordman64]

How is it, then, that GSN seemed to have quite a few B&W Passwords if they were all destroyed?

[secondchance1977]

BEcause, as i said earlier, i heard that someone made B&W Copys of the episodes!

[recordman64]

OK...I should have read your comments a little more carefully. Sorry!

[kes1963]

the black and white ones gsn has are the nighttime version and somehow, not as many of those were lost

[recordman64]

Very interesting!

[behemoth8504]

Those were aired on CBS and CBS was far less prone to erasing and reusing the tapes unlike ABC back in that era. Its sad; I'd have loved to see this rendition of Password air on GSN...

[GarfieldnPyramid]

So NBC erased CBSs password??

[secondchance1977]

No.

[miamivicepastels83]

i like when they give the clue and they look all intense like that's gonna help the other person figure it out! like they're ms cleo or something

[boblonain]

kentucky... DERBY. i dont get it :S

[DENo1MatchGameFan]

Jack Klugman always loved to bet on horses - therefore, that is how he got Kentucky for DERBY.

[gsnman]

I love Password!

[trev17ian]

I like the orange set

[loveisok]

i love this catchy theme,too

[hwyfan]

When did Allen Ludden start using "Hi Doll" as his opening greeting to the audience (and referring to his mother in law)? I'm surprised to see Ludden say, "happy Tuesday" here.

[baldy2006]

I'd say 1963, the year he married Miss Betty. Incidentally, Allen and Betty had first me the previous year. They were working together on stage in "Critic's Choice".

[kes1963]

If i understand right, betty and allen started dating sometime in 62, his first wife died in oct. of 61

[voyage2k]

Sounds about right -- I can't seem to find Betty's biography about her life in TV, it's around here, though. It's called "Here We Go Again: My Life in Television". If you're a fan of hers -- or Allen's -- it's worth getting for the stories. :)

[leetonia]

I think Brett could kick anyone's ass. Wasn't she married later to Charles Nelson Reilly?

[onevestalfan]

No, Charles Nelson Reilly was Gay. They were just good friends.

[dijeinyje]

That set is trippy lookin'.

[the06bug]

I like the old set better if I'm really honest. Y'know, with all those rectangles?

[smashwhammy]

And the plus sign was everywhere on Password Plus

[secondchance1977]

Dosnt The Hollwood Squares Old Set and the Password Plus Set have some sort of resemblance? The hosts areas look awfully the same.

[Herbert7J]

Great to hear that electronic music theme again! It, along with the early 70s "To Tell the Truth" and the original 60's Jeopardy! theme are my vote for the canon of most memorable game show tunes.

[Jnelson09]

I like that theme, but I liked Password Plus' theme the best. That and the 70's Tattletales, and possibly Press Your Luck.

[megamanj2004]

If you look very closely on the left side of the set, after Brett Somers comes out, you might of thought that it was Allen coming out of the left side, but it's actually an ABC cameramen over there.

[sammyreed]

That was Jack Klugman's head bending down. He stood up while she was entering.

[GarfieldnPyramid]

I see him I did think it was Allen at first.

[flacubfan84]

Thanks for posting this. This is the version of Password I grew up watching in the 70s - along with shows like Match Game, Tattletales, Price is Right and Gambit. Most of those shows have survived in some fashion and have made their way onto GSN - but this is the first and only version of the ABC Password I have seen. Hopefully more will turn up - but thanks for posting this!

[mimsy1]

It's way cool to see an Episode of the First ABC Password series. I am a big fan but never have seen this version before. Thanks.

[sweet2boy]

I agree! I love this theme. Along with the Pyramid theme, I think it is quite a catchy tune!

[WhatsAYak]

Personally, I prefer the 75 theme...this one was OK, but not great.

[midknightryder13]

Oh, good -- glad I'm not alone on that. I liked the 75 theme best, too. After that it's a toss-up between this one and the theme from "Password Plus".

[gameshowluvr86]

Visit my channel, I have the final episode from 1975! :)

[micmac99]

Wasnt this right before they got divorced? Their interaction seems a little strained.

[disneyfan81]

Actually, if you remember in Brett's obituary, they never really got divorced. They just seperated.