A lie put into big Trouble-Debate on Quran Malayalam 1 of 2

[kariyiljose]

adeel ur comment "now if the saudi govt is going in the other way than i cant do anything for it" r u brave enough to say wat they r doing is wrong? so it seems if ur father or brother does big mistake just say "i cant help it" and seems that ends ur part. bible teaches first clean urself then help to clean others. look brother mistake is always a mistake whether done by ones own or another!

[adeelalam084]

whateevr they do against Islam..they do wrong..i can it..

now regarding Bible..Bible says many things but none of u Christians follow it..look at the christian countries...dont u think that people r far far away from God in those countries as compared to muslim countries?..

[kariyiljose]

adeel i am a person who is studying bible what u said is right bible does not support trinity. talks about one God and son and holy spirit (the power released from God)non of the christians follow because they split up into thousands of groups and with different rules of their own forgot the real God in bible. all christians available today r just imposters of self made christianity. if want to know the how a real chirstian was read new testament.

[adeelalam084]

i m consisted of soul and ofcourse body..and for me my body is not that important..only my soul thus my life after this life!!!!!

[ETworldjone]

ok...good...so that what makes you 'one person' isn't it? body + soul = man. agree?

[adeelalam084]

ya it does...so whats the point?..if its regarding trinity..than let me tell u something..this one + one or one into one into one formula should hold true to every biblical statement..but Jesus said...God is greater than i...so it means that for example Jesus is not one in this case ...he is let us say 0.9 ..so now the end result becomes 0.8..which isnt equel to one.

[ETworldjone]

Quran is nothing but a copy of the Bible which Muhammed changed according to his will and convenience. What evidence is there to prove that Quran was handed from heaven? how is it ever possible to to believe a person like Muhammed who converted the tribes of arabia through violence and bloodshed? todays violence and bloodshed in the name of islam is itself a testimony to the dogmatic, unrealistic and stupid teaching of Islam.

[adeelalam084]

Quran is not a copy of Bible..its from the same GOD who sent Bible to Jesus(PBUH) thats y there r similarities between the both..the first arabic Bible was written 200 years after the death of PRophet Mohammad(SAW) and he had no idea whats written in the Bible

and GOD didnt promise to preserve Bible and thats y we dont accept it as the one which was given to Prophet Jesus(PBUH)

[ETworldjone]

adeelalam, your comment is one of the most ignorant and senseless i have ever seen on this subject. if muhammed was such an ignoirant person on the subjects within the Bible then how come he make references to it in his life? Bible is not like Quran. It was compiled and put together in 1600 years and thats why it is so unique. Your quran is just a product of a madman in the deret who had close connection with the jews.(contd.)

[adeelalam084]

dude..Mohammad(SAW) was guided by ALLAH..he didnt do anything religious on his own..everyhitng reagrding the religion he said..it was from GOD..now u dont believe in it so u can ask these questions to YOURSELF...but i know that he was guided by ALLAH

[ETworldjone]

What evidence do you have to believe in Muhammed? Jesus had the apostles and they recorded them and thats evidence. Muhammed claims he got a revelation from Allah thru jibril in the desert when he was alone. There are none other than him who can claim this to be true. Muhammed is a liar, he got nothing from God. All he did was change the stories in the Bible and made up a new violent religion called Islam. (CONTD.)

[adeelalam084]

Quran is the evidence and thats y many people all around the world r coming towards Islam..Quran is a living Miracle..the miracle of Jesus got finished when he was raised and now poeple question about them in west and make fun of them..but Quran is a living miracle and despite so much hatred against Islam it is conquering the hearts of people!!!

[ETworldjone]

(CONTD.)Is there any prophet in Islam thats not in the Bible other than Muhammed?no That proves he is a copycat and liar. He was a power-thirsty nomad in the desert who converted the tribes of Arabia and other places through force and violence. Why dont you get it?

[adeelalam084]

dude your own Bible prophecised of the coming of Prophet Mohammad(SAW)...and what happpened in cave Hira has already been told in Bible!!!

and its christianity which spreads through hate, murder and vilence..not Islam!!! ydont u get it??

[ETworldjone]

There is no mention of muhammed in the Bible. You are interpreting some of the prophecies in the Bible to accomodate muhammed naively. Thats a shameless thing because you r cowards and you r dependent on the Christians and jews yet u disagree with them. Christianity spreads hate, murder and violence??????? anyone who is living in the 21st century clearly know that Islam is the cause for about 80% of bloodshed in this world. You even kill ur own people.

[adeelalam084]

look...whatever i know about christianity makes no sense at all!! this is pure blasphamy!!!!

and we muslims we dont believe becoz its like that...we have proof...and that is Quran and many of the hadiths...scientifically aproved..and i agree with everything in Bible whihc is not colliding with Quran..but trinity,orgnaöl sin etc not orignal christian concepts..and christianity has been changing itself with the passage of time and thats y its unreliable

[ETworldjone]

whatever u know about christianity makes no sense because ur a retard and ur ignorant of christianity. u dont have to say that..everyone reading ur comments understands it. u r a muslium because muhammed promised u virgins in heaven...isn't it? wow...wat a religion! u should be ashamed of urselves

[adeelalam084]

no..i m not retard..its the concepts of modern christianity whih is reatrded and laughable and illogical and non-sense

the basis of christianity is trinity(completely illogical)..orignal sin(another laughable illogical phenomenan) and crufiCtion of Jesus(yes crucifiction not crucifixtion!!!)-becoz according to Bible Jesus had to live for 3 days and 3 nights in the belly of earth but he lived there only for 2 nights and 1 day!!!-modern christianity is based on illogical and false philosophies

[ETworldjone]

To know about the sense of trinity go here--answering-islam dot org/Authors/Arlandson/trinity_­brief.htm

To find answers to ur questions visit the 'answering Islam' website.

[adeelalam084]

and to find your answers visit:

answering-christianity(dot)com

[ETworldjone]

These are some of the naive and laughable things that Quran says:

1. Selling Joseph for a few 'DIRHAMS' (before coins was even invented!!)

2. Alexander the great--a muslium???? lol!

3. crucifixon of pharoahs??? (crucifxion was the invention of romans thousands of years later!!)

4. Who was the first muslium???? contradiction- Muhammad [6:14, 163], Moses [7:143], some Egyptians [26:51], or Abraham [2:127-133, 3:67] or Adam, the first man who also received inspiration from Allah [2:37]?

etc.

[adeelalam084]

i have never seen such big hypocrates than christian..their Bible is full of blood and hate and they still call others religion to b violent..although every thing associated to christianity is full of blood

[ETworldjone]

Christianity is associated with the New Testament and I dont think so there is a single verse that encourages stoning or any sort of such things. Jesus said to love ur enemies not to hate them. The message of christrianity is love. The Old Testament is the jewish law but for christians it is not just OT. But the message of Islam is hatred. Go and ask Bin laden why he is doing what he does and you'll know what ur Islam really is. The quran is full of beheadings and cutting of hands.

[ETworldjone]

That jewish connection is the source where he got the Old Testament information of the Bible and the christian personality of Jesus. He just made a few changes within it and creted some extra laws and established another religion through violence and blood shed.How can anyone trust such a person as muhammed? His lifetime information recorded in the hadith is itself evident that he was a liar and power-thirsty person.

[adeelalam084]

u people cant even prove the crucifixion of Jesus..Deedat destroyed your claims..and once every muslim watches those debates ..they dont even think about christianity anymore

u people r most violent people on earth but with the help of your media u hide this aspect!!!

[ETworldjone]

adeel, the apostles of Jesus who witnessed first hand the crucifixon of Jesus, recorded what they saw in the gospels and their sermons, hundreds of years before that liar muhammed. On the other hand, muhammed who hundreds of years later started claiming that Jesus' face turned into Judas and he was crucified. Who would with some common sense believe? A person who have not an iota of information or seen the crucifixon of Jesus (muhammed) or first hand witnesses of it (apostles)? apostles ofcourse

[adeelalam084]

oh...have u heard the name Deedat...he burried the concept of crucifixtion and he prooved that it was crucifiction

look Bible said that Jesus will remain in the belly of the eart for 3 days and 3 nights and Jesus lived there only for 1 and half day!!!!!

nobody can help u prooving this thing!!!

so Bible is unfortunately flawed

[adeelalam084]

violence!!

u know i laugh very hard when the christians talk about VIOLENCE!!!!

christians massacred at the times of crusade

Christian massacred 6 million jews becoz Bible asks them to kill even the CHILDREN, Women and animal of the enemy..and asks them to slay everybody!!!

so its nothing else hypocracy when u guys tlak about violence..lolz..really most of u christians r really hypocraitc

[VividVisionV2]

When did John find out Jesus was the Messiah? (Matthew 11:2-3) While imprisoned. John the Baptist sent followers to Jesus to inquire if Jesus was the messiah. (Luke 7:18-22) While imprisoned. John the Baptist sent followers to Jesus to inquire if Jesus was the Messiah.(John 1 :29-34,36)John already knew Jesus was the Messiah.

When did the fig tree hear of its doom? (Matthew 21:17-19) Jesus cursed the fig tree after purging the temple.(Mark 11:14-15 & 20)He cursed it before the purging

[VividVisionV2]

How many generations were there between Abraham to David? Matthew 1:17 lists fourteen generations. Matthew 1:2 lists thirteen generations.

[adeelalam084]

well well well....they liked to do it...but it was when the muslims didnt know anything abt Bible..like in the early 19th century when a german came to idia and challenged all the muslim shaikhs....

now.....muslims have an upperhand and thats y they avoid doing it...dont beleive?...than watch zakir naik vs wlliam campbell...or deedats debates...

also Science is now coming to its climax and with that its becoming in accordance to Quran and Hadeeth but with bible its the totally different story!!!

[VividVisionV2]

Is Paul lying? In Acts 20:35 Paul told people "to remember the words of the Lord Jesus, how he said, 'It is more blessed to give than to receive.'" Since Jesus never made such a biblical statement, isn't Paul guilty of deception?

When did the leper become not a leper? (Matthew 8:13 & 8:14) Jesus healed the leper before visiting the house. (Mark 1:29-30 & 1:40-42) Jesus healed the leper after visiting Simon Peter's house.

[mmtitan2007yt]

Christian don't like to debate Muslim with regards to religion because we know that the fury is yours and that you are boasting about that.

[zencv]

it may be accepted, but next day you may not find your head on neck :D . let me know whether this would be accepted in saudi arabia or pakistan..would appreciate if you answer to the point and also make reference to your claim.

[adeelalam084]

oh...in pakistan...u can debate on these issues....the only prob is that people dont have money fo these things...

and currently is the situation terible(but it wasnt always like this)

and by the way....freedom of expression in pakistan is not associated with relligion infcat its more with politics and media...listen to the news!!!...Christians r practicing their relligion in pakistan...we have got a huge church in our city and we respect it as muslims...

[ETworldjone]

oh ya...u respect non musliums a lot...liars..everyone know how much trouble and persecution are christians in stupid islamic countries are suffering. yet u guys eat the food of christians and live peacefully without any sort of trouble in christian countries. morover, the fact that christian countries are the most developed and successful countries in this world is itself a testimony to the truth of the Bible and lies and dogmatic teaching of Quran.

[adeelalam084]

well..throughout the history till today u people have been killing so many and its about the propaganda otherwise christians live in muslim countries also peacefully except when u invade muslim countries than soe of the muslims get enraged and they do silly things

u people dont like to come from the front doors.debate muslim scholars on issues and than do your missionary work ..

[ETworldjone]

"christians live in muslim countries also peacefully except when u invade muslim countries than soe of the muslims get enraged and they do silly things"

haha..lol...wat a joke. I was born in Saudi arabia and for 16 years me and my family suffered in that land for being christians. and saudi arabia is the closest ally of USA and has american style systems for almost everything in that nation. btw, if for u torturing and killing are 'silly things' then I pity on u and ur dogmatic religion.

[adeelalam084]

well..the same holds true for muslims in west ..they also face much prblems...look i youtube for anit-islamic videos and muslims also get some problmes...so its equel

[ETworldjone]

ur such an idiot...how many western gvernments torture and jail musl;iums just for being musliums? u see very few churches in islamic countries whereas u r allowed freedom of worship. no one cuts ur throat for changing religion in the west but in ur naive nations it happens. so no...its not equal in a million years. Infact, u should bow ur head and be ashamed of yourself for the barbarism thats happening in ur society.

[adeelalam084]

well. u r an arogant idiot not i..

the history of christianity is full of hate and violent...even now they r doig this in afghanistan and iraq after smashing planes into their own trade towers

and its your civilization which deserves to b ashmed for going away from the Bible!!!

95%+ people like to have pre-maritel sex...children r total disobedient and according to Bible they should b stoned to death(lolz)

[ETworldjone]

yopur comments itsfelf prove who's ignorant and arrogant. Its americans who r in afganistan and iraq not christians.Christians in the world have opposed thiose wars. They did not go to Iraq or afganistan in the name of christianity but you killed 3000 people in new york and conducted suicide bombings in numerous countries (even among your people) in the name of Islam and muhammed.For instance, in iraq, women get killed just for wearing western clothes. Thats why ur soiety is barbaric and stupid.

[adeelalam084]

the one who believes in 911 is an idiot..never ever in history came 3 buildings down becoz of fire..lolz...that was an inside job and i m not the only one who is saying this..36% american believe in it..and outside usa majority of people everywhere believes in it!!!

and the problem is that ur media highlights very very small incidents in islamic world..but they forget the crimes whihc r being commited in their own countries!!!

[ETworldjone]

ur like one of thoise stupid, laughable and naive conspiracy theorists who thinks that 9/11 was a hoax. To mention that how fire destroys buildings exposes ur lack of educatiuon at all and ignorant of 9/11 events. ur really a stup[id guy living at the expense of the west.

[ETworldjone]

Just because some people are coming to Islam is no way an evidence to the credibilioty of quran u moron. There are more converts to christianity than to Islam in this world. Just last week the pope baptized an egyptian muslium. Moreover there are many secret conversions in Saudi Arabia, egypt and thousands of islamic countries. You kill them when they convert but its Jesus thats protecting them from barbarians like u.

[adeelalam084]

u pagan...lolz...i know how do the christians convert people to Islam... they ask to become christian and than help them!!!!!

oh btw Bible says:"If your very own brother, or your son or daughter, or the wife you love, or your closest friend secretly entices you, saying: Let us go and worship other gods (gods that neither you nor your fathers have known, gods of the peoples around you, whether near or far, from one end of the land to the other, or gods of other religions)(contd)

[ETworldjone]

In 2004 or 2005 the muslium terrorists took some people as hostages. They were forced to be musliums and only after that they were released and they were given some qurans. its the same story everywhere. I know coz I lived in ur so called holy land for more than a decade.

[adeelalam084]

once again..take one incident and claim on its basis that Islam is spreading through sword?..lolz..have u forgotten the massacre done by crusaders? and uknow y they did this..becoz Bible tells them to kill the children,women and even the animals of the enemy..wow..so much "LOVE"..and christians always have been showing this love to their enemies.like killing 6 million jews...like killing all the muslims in spain and so on!!!!

[ETworldjone]

Its not one incident mate. this happens everywhere. that was just one of the thousands of examples i've given.The crusade massacrees were done by the pope not christians and it was not based on the teaching of the Bible.The musliums did massacre too. Dont you know that Saladdin had the support of vast number of christians in the crusades? .

[adeelalam084]

well..as far as i know pope is considered asto b very close to GOD and is the highest ranked personality in christianity...and he is a christian...and whatever he does is written as the actions of christians...and sladin forgave everybody when he entered in jerusalm..becoz he followed Prophet Mohammad(SAW) when he entered in mecca!!! this is what ISLAM is..(contd)

[ETworldjone]

ur an idiot....the pope is the highest ranked personality of the Roman catholics not christianity. Saladdin sold many women and children who were poor when he entered Jerusalme. Human traffiking is worst than killing. Islam is the most barbaric religion ever and wherever there are muslioum there is b;loodshed, killing, rape, and every possible sins.

[adeelalam084]

and as far as i know..majorit of the europian countries r catholics!!!...pope is not a neglectable figure in christianity..this is what i meant...and u cannot just say POPE IS NOT A CHRISTIAN!!!...no it doesnt work!!!

and its christianitywhich is barbaric stupid ,illogical,hypocratic and non sense

[ETworldjone]

you still dont know the difference between Old and New Testament. you should seriously go and get some education mate. you are now just like a parrot repeating what ur mullahs have taught you without thinking. 6 million jews were killed by nazis and nazism is an ideology in itself. Moreover, the people who saved jews by defeating the nazis were not any muslium mullah idiots but americans and other countries of christian tradition. So, u have proved that ur a hypocrite. shame on u mate.

[adeelalam084]

i dont have any problme with bible..i have only one problme when people like u try to teach me my religiona dn tell me that the terrorist r doing it becoz they r muslims!!!..Quran says it clearly and also Mohamamad(SA)W never killed any innocent human being!!! those terrorist r not following Islam..one who saves the life of a human being has saved the whole humanity(Quran)

[adeelalam084]

do not yield to him or listen to him. Show him no pity. Do not spare him or shield him. You must certainly put him to death. Your hand must be the first in putting him to death, and then the hands of all the people."Deutronomy 13:6-9

Bible asks u to kill the apostates....but u people dont follow Bible!!!! u r responsible for that not us!!! we want to follow GD's order

[ETworldjone]

u idiot deuteronomy is part of the Old Testamemt and we christinas follow Jesus and the teachings oif Jesus are recorded in the New Testament. Read Mt.5-7. "Love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you"...."Love your neighbour as yourself"

[adeelalam084]

lolz...this is just a showpiece otherwise christians r invading every country...neo-cons r controlling and giving advices to go for war with every muslims recognizable country and than after conquering it spread their faith ...with their lie cheat and steal tactics

[adeelalam084]

"u idiot deuteronomy is part of the Old Testamemt and we christinas follow Jesus.."

so u dont agree with old testament and the GOD in old testament..although u use the verse..in the begining there was word and the word was with.."..and u believe that Jesus is God..so all of these r his commandments and he confirmed by saying" i have not come to change the law"..right???

so it means if he is (trion)GOD as u believe than he is responsible for everything in old testament too!!!

[ETworldjone]

The Old Testament are for the jews and when Jesus came he opened the doors of salvation for the whole world and accordingly he revised the laws of the Old Testament. You really need to have some education mate...you r pathetic and I have never come across as ignorant as a person like u.

[ETworldjone]

The Old Testament are for the jews and when Jesus came he opened the doors of salvation for the whole world and accordingly he revised the laws of the Old Testament. You really need to have some education mate...you r pathetic and I have never come across as ignorant as a person like u.

[ETworldjone]

The Old Testament are for the jews and when Jesus came he opened the doors of salvation for the whole world and accordingly he revised the laws of the Old Testament. You really need to have some education mate...you r pathetic and I have never come across as ignorant as a person like u.

[adeelalam084]

y did Jesus say.."i have not come to destroy the law"?

what does this mean?

btw i m talking about trinity...everything done in OT is from gOD..do u accept it?

and u believe that Jesus is gOD..so once again the question..all the killing of innocent people ordered by TRION GOD was also from Jesus..or probably at that time he was a baby Jesus and the OLD GOD was controlling the world..lolz..lmao!!!!!!!

[ETworldjone]

why dont u complete the sentence mate? why dont u read that whole chapter....Jesus said that he has not come to destroy the law but to fulfill them. He did fulfill them by coming to this world and dying for us in the cross and revising the laws that are needed for the world and not just for the jews (which was the OT). That chapter contains a lot of law revisions straight after he said it. read it before saying stupid things mate.

[adeelalam084]

yes...but not change..change means change...it means he came to give u EXTRA laws and not to abolish the old laws...idiot!!!!

go back to school and learn english once again if u cant understand what does CHANGE mean!!!..lolz...btw..Jesus said"i have come only to the lost sheep of ISRAEL" and not for the whole world..the idea of whole world eing christian is not from Jesus

[ETworldjone]

he did not abolish any OT laws but 'revised' them.....ur an idiot actually and ur english is really pathetic...revision includes changes and he did so because the door of salvation was opened to the gentiles which before was only to the jews.....read that whole chapter...he says words like..."you have heard" and "but I tell you now". Read that whole chapter u idiot....c'mon stop being so pathetic.

[adeelalam084]

oh..since when revising means"..mmm..dont follow it"...regarding adultary..dont follow it..regarding gambling..ragarding interest dont follow it..regarding pre-marital sex..dont follow it...lolz...he never abolished any laws...its u people who have done it yrself and r not following him at all!..u have ABOLISHED LAWS and not "changed" them!!!

[ETworldjone]

ofcourse he never abolished laws...he revised 'some' of it like laws related to violence and apostacy in the OT. Thats why I asked u to read the whole chapter u idiot....c'mon ur making youself look like a joker now.

[adeelalam084]

m i losing?..lolz...hahahahahahaha

dude i just showed u what yr own SCHLORS and devoted christians have to say about trinity!! its illogical..the basis of your religion r illogical..lolz

and u r teöling me that i m loosing..hahahahahaha

its a good thing to do..when u dont have any answer..say to your opponent.."hey u r loosing"..lolz...

[ETworldjone]

adeelalam, i have stumped you in the fact that u accept killing a person just for leaving islam. In that case, how can u boast about conversion to ur religion and refuse someone from ur religion to convert to any other religion. You force them to be a muslium. Thats so bad and pathetic mate. Thats hypocratic and double standards. You are sinning....that is a very great sin. shame on u! and shame on islam and muhammed!

[adeelalam084]

well..b4 stumping me..confess to me that u dont accept OT and u dont accept that Jesus was also GOD at the time of OT...do u do it????

lolz...and Jesus never changed the laws

and i have stumped u by giving u quotes of your own devoted christians!!!...showing u how stupid the fundamentals of your religion are...lolz..and u have never prooved to me that 1=3..or 3=6..give me the mathematical formula..lolz...hahahahahahaha

[ETworldjone]

r u threatening me and forcing me to confess like a mullah that I dont believe in the divinity of Jesus....see...thats hy musliums are so shameless idiots...i stumped u with regards to apostacy...Jesus did change the laws and I quote Mt. 5:17-48. so u got stumped there as well. when did I say 1=3?...1=3 is an analogy to explain trinity not trinity itself. you r putting words into my mouth which is another shameful and pathetic thing mate. shame on u mate....shame!

[adeelalam084]

well...trinity means.. 3 person= 1 person its not my words..this is what christianity is..and as i gave u refference..u can watch that video and look how he had to confess at the end that noody understands trinity!!

[adeelalam084]

let me give u the quote of a very devoted christian about trinity..he is a phd and an active evangelist:

"niether i nor u can understand what trinity is..but please accept it as it is"..so he confessed that his religion is based on illogical concept(1=3...lolz)

his name is Anis Shorrosh and u can find these words in the 22nd part of his debate with deedat where deedat brought him to his knees and anis had to admit the fact-lolz

[ETworldjone]

Let me ask you this one question.

Is apostacy right or wrong? should a muslium be killed or punished for changing his religion?

[adeelalam084]

i showed u from Bible that according to christianity..the punishment for apostacy is death..and i dont want to interfere in GOD's business...i dont want to ipose my own thoughts on anything...now if u dont accept OT..than its yr problme..but if according to Islam apostate must die..than i m for it!!! although there r incidents fromProphet's life when he spared appostates

[ETworldjone]

So, u accept apostacy. Thanks for exposing that. Thats why I was telling all along that Islam is the worst religion in the whole world. We do not have apostacy mate. Jesus revised that law and anyone can leave christianity without any problem. No ones gonna cut their throat as in Islam. BTW, do u know that according to OT no one can become a jew unless special circumstances?

[adeelalam084]

hahaha...Jesus didnt revised the law...it was those people(like Paul) and others who revised it!!!...lolz..u make a fool out of yourself when u claim that he changed the laws!!!!!!...it was Paul not Jesus...read your Bible!!!

[ETworldjone]

yes we do invite people to chroistianity and preach them the word of God. We pray for them and they get healed of their diseases, their problems and so on. They themselves pray to God and read the Bible and they come to Christ. You convert people through force.

[adeelalam084]

oh...where is the sword in usa?...1.5 million converts r present in usa and 20000 r accepting it each year..only after 911 within 2 months 33000 people accepted islam..where is the sword u lier???..and also in uk..George Bernard Shaw said" if any religion has chances to spread in europe within next 100 years than its Islam..and its happening..in your own country..people r coming in great numbers towards islam..where is the sword man???..oh yes there is one..the sword of intellect and proof!!!!!

[ETworldjone]

The growth of Islam is due to marrying a lot of wives and having a lot of children. Its generational not convertional. The convertion rate in islam is very low but in christianity its very high and that is what counts. Not birth rate....you just marry a lot of women and treat them as ur slaves and have thousands of children. thats were your growth is not in conversion which is shameful and pathetic.

[adeelalam084]

Islam is largest and fastest growing religion of the world...and this has been admitted by Bush himself!!!...and the main thing is that despite all of the false propaganda Islam is the fastest growing religion in usa and europe...dont just read Chrisitian-stats..also read from neutrals..

[ETworldjone]

and do u think stupid deedat and naik and answering christianity dot com are neutralks...idiot??? dont just be a brain washed idiot mullah! go and read the newutral viewpoint

[adeelalam084]

lolz..deedat and naik destroyed u guys...and its going to happen again when u guys face naik..he is not somebody u can catch...lolz...i love that Naik-william campbell debate...in which the later admitted that naik has brought problmes for him and he couldnt answer even a single one..lolz..and Deedat was totally uncatchable too..he always won!!!..

[ETworldjone]

deedat?naik?destroyed?r u mad? naik came to our school in saudi arabia and he was the laughing stock...he just made a lot of stupid jokes about other religions.and one christian asked him a question about freedom of religion and he was stumped.hahaha..lol he and deedat are no different to osama bin laden actually. and i think they r now ur new islamic gods.

[adeelalam084]

well we dont have man-gods like u..who accept Jesus as God...without thinking..btw that old-new testament was a good joke...who ordered all the killing in OT?..wasnt that your trion GOD?..lolz...now ull say"no, i follow only NT"..lolz....watch the debate between naik and campbell and than ull never utter a word about it

[ETworldjone]

watch what ravi zacharias have to say and then you'll relaize why islam is such a joke and stupid. who ordered all the killing in Quran? who ordered muhammed to kill and forcibly convert many people to islam? why r musliums killing fellow musliums just because they converted to another religion? why are women in Islam treated like slaves? Why cant women drive and have proper freedon in saudi arabia? why do u kill people? why do they kill women and children? islam is stupid!

[adeelalam084]

i dont care as long as he doesnt debate with somebody..u answer my question..what is stupid orignal sin?..what is stupid trinity..what is stupid crucifiction...ill watch ravi zacharias after he debates a known muslim and gets his *** kicked..than ill watch

[ETworldjone]

thats exactly why we say that you guys are losers....the only thing u know is to kick*** and kill. thats why I said all along that Islam is a religion of death, violence,bloodshed, stupidity and almost every sin. shame on u mate for exposing all these things in ur comments

[adeelalam084]

lolz...so u admit that yr***** get kicked by muslims in debates..hahahahahahahahahaha.­..yes atlast u accepted truth partially

and everybody knows how violent has christianity always been..i dont need to repeat myself

[ETworldjone]

hello...calm down mate....you seem to be frustrated as clearly ur losing here and cannot answer one question I have put forward. yes, I accept that musliums kill people, they kill women and children, they love bloodshed and violence and so on. And if u think that I have accepted the truth about islam's brutality and barbarism...then you r right....I do accept that truth...hahah..atalast u realised it!

[ETworldjone]

hello...calm down mate....you seem to be frustrated as clearly ur losing here and cannot answer one question I have put forward. yes, I accept that musliums kill people, they kill women and children, they love bloodshed and violence and so on. And if u think that I have accepted the truth about islam's brutality and barbarism...then you r right....I do accept that truth...hahah..atalast u realised it!

[adeelalam084]

second problem..Bible told us regarding crucifiction

The son of man will b in the belly of earth for 3 days and 3 nights"

Jesus remained there only for 2 nights and 1 day....another problem regarding your fundamental belief...oh but i think christians claim 1=3 so they can also say 3=6

lolz...and totally illogical!!!!!

[adeelalam084]

third problme regarding the Orignal sin..another joke..lolz..typical stupid christian mentality.." a kid is born with load of sins and if he dies at an erly age..he would go to hell"..lolz...another pathetic sick minded argument..Islam tells me that every kid is born as innocent and if he dies at an early age than he would go to heaven becoz he is responsible for what Adam and Eve did...perfectly logical..but the christian theology is as usual illogical

[ETworldjone]

You dont know anything about original sin mate. When God created the world it was perfect...there was no sin. But when Adam and Eve sinned by disobeying God, the world came under the devil and sin. So, everyone born are born into a sinful world...a sinful prison. A child is innocent and the Bible teaches the same and they will go to heaven if they die. (contd)

[adeelalam084]

hahaha..everyone s born with sin..oh..y is your loving and forgiving trion GOD like this that he tells u that everybody has been created with a sin although the poor soul has got no idea of whts going on!!!!

but i know..in order to b a christian u have to turn the your BRAIN-SWITCH off...so its ok..i understand your mentality..lolz

[ETworldjone]

when did I say everyone are born with sin? everyone are born 'into' a sinful world and therefore they are 'influenced' by sin. To come out of it they just need to follow Jesus. Achild will not get influenced by it until he reaches an age to understand. He will go to heaven if he passes away as a child. Thats why Jesus asks his followers to be like a child to eneter heaven. Why dont u get it? oh...i know...u have gone mad...or ur brain is not working.

[tasli]

Mr. ETworldjone. tell me have you ever read the quran with a neutral mind. With neutral mind i say a mind not to criticize it. If not stop this hate mongering.about original sin check

Ezekiel 18:20-21. But if you say its wrong and original sin does exist. that means bible is wrong. But if you say original sin is wrong the bible is right.

I would like to say this. Research a bit before you speak.

[kariyiljose]

look u r asking others to read quran will saudi allow the citizens to read or listen to bible with freedom. a big no is the answer! bcoz they dont allow that. what do they fear actually. christians dont do that. u are asking to read quran with a nuetral mind. well brother thats what all people knowing quran should do. read the first book - bible then go for the next- quran as it was written later

learn the alphabets (bible) properly before u say i can write english well. God bless u brother

[tasli]

Brother I agree with u.Saudi doesn't allow bible there!!u should understand Islam is not Saudi .Whatever Saudi does, its the King's decision. Recently Saudi banned taking pets be it dogs or cats out for a walk.Abu-hurrair was named because of his love for cats and he was a sahabi.I am happy to know that u acknowledge Quran as the latest.ur own words "read the first book - bible then go for the next- quran as it was written later". So brother if u r done with bible,Its high time you move on.

[tasli]

So if you want to study the latest revelation(Quran)get any copy(there are no revisions or changes in it) and start reading and try to keep up with the fluent and simple language and the lack of ambiguity.

For future reference.. I am a sister not a brother.

[ETworldjone]

Jesus asks his followers to be like a child to enter the kingdom of God. But those who gain the capability of understanding must accept Jesus Chrost as their saviour to be saved from sin and to come onto the path of righteousness.

[adeelalam084]

dude..for me QURAN is enough...and by following it..i get everything..peace of mind and soul

Quran has transformed my life and has made me a much better person than i was b4..despite living in germany..i m still a virgin,never drink alcohol,smoking or gambling and last week i found a handy on road costing more than 150 euros and i sent it back becoz of the teachings of Quran..etc.

[ETworldjone]

i know Quran is enough for you to support killing a person just for changing his religion from Islam. Its not quran that transformed your life...its the fact that you r living in a western country with christian tradition. You have better prospects in life now unlike pakistan. I dont smoke, gamble nor drink alcohol...and I am a christian and Jesus have transformed my and my family's life.

[adeelalam084]

hahahahaha..that was a good joke lolz.if i follow christian traditions than i will become an animal..will have pre-marital sex...will drink alcohol like a mad man...will do everything bad which one can imagine..and becoz of these short-comings of christian faith people in germany r also accepting Islam..and thats y in the last a Christian Priest committed suicide after observing the growth of Islam in germany

[adeelalam084]

and thanku very much for attacking iraq, afghanistan and now headin for pakistan..thanku evry much for showing us your CHRISTIAN love and true face of your religion!!!

thanku very much for massacring the people in crusades

thanku very much for killing all the muslims in spain(in 16th century)

thanku very much..christianity is so LOVELY!!!

i m so deep in love with it!!!

[ETworldjone]

Look at the jewish and christian countries of this world and compare it with islamic countries. Then you musliums will understand why ur allah (who u say is Jehovah or father in heaven himself) has nothing to do with ur religious dogmas. Israel is a small nation in the middle of big fat islamic nations and it is more powerful and developed than everyone one them.

[adeelalam084]

yes i c them and i know that they put all of their religious values aside and progressed...and if u r not an atheist..u have to regret all what is happenign in your own countries..

premarital sex is spreading in world from these CHRISTIAN and JEWish countries..their whole society does this crime and its agaisnt GOD's laws

[ETworldjone]

haha...your stupid assertions makes u look like a joker mate. your society beheads and kills people for simple matters as changing their religion. and if you think that the popular media and hollywood represents west you are very stupid and ignorant to believe that.

[adeelalam084]

yes.Bible orders u this:

Deuteronomy 13:6-9 "If your very own brother, or your son or daughter, or the wife you love, or your closest friend secretly entices you, saying: Let us go and worship other gods (gods that neither you nor your fathers have known, gods of the peoples around you, whether near or far, from one end of the land to the other, or gods of other religions), do not yield to him or listen to him. Show him no pity.(contd)

[ETworldjone]

i cant stop laughing at your ignorance of theology. You cant even differentiate betwen Old Testament and New Testament. The verses that u refer to are jewish laws and not part of christian teaching whch comprises of forgiveness, hope, faith, love and compassion. Please go and learn some theology and then comment otherwise you'll turn out to be a laughing stock of the world.

[adeelalam084]

Do not spare him or shield him. You must certainly put him to death. Your hand must be the first in putting him to death, and then the hands of all the people." europe progressed only after they put their Bible aside! and i've given u the proof that Bible orders to kill people if they convert to other religion..so the laugh is at u..if u talk to me as a non-christian than i would listen to u but if u talk to me as a christian than i can bring arguments from your book to prove u wrong

[ETworldjone]

the western society's proigress did not began today or tomorrow. u seriously need to learn some history. the christian principles are at the core of the western society's system and thats why u dont see killing, beheading and torturing as in an islamic society or community. pre-martial sex and so on is a modern developement and you cannot apply it to a whole society.its individual choice. thats a typiocl stupid muslium person's claims.

[ETworldjone]

the last time i checked the majority of Israeli population are religious and the same applies to western nations especially USA. and you say they progresses without christian principles?? haha...again ur showing urself as an uneducated and silly mullah. the constitution of UK and USA are based on christian principles and tradition....they did not get developed just yesterday. islamic countries even with their extremist religious backgrund has no sign of their allahs help to get out of corruption

[adeelalam084]

lolz...aska rabi and he would tell u what the spirituality level of the poeple of israel is...majority of them r atheists and the real jews r infact against zionists

and ALLAH will hep us but only after we put our differences aside and follow Quran rather than following the europe and usa!!!

[adeelalam084]

i m living ingermany and u in uk and let me tell u one thing..i havnt met even a single girl or women who doesnt make sex b4 marriage!!! infact in germany the average is like this: till the age of 19 years a girl changes 6 boy friends!!!

what does Bible say to this?..i cant write more than 500 words but i hope that u know that yor countries r far away from Christianity and they progressed once they put the religion aside

[ETworldjone]

do u get tortured in germany for being a muslium? do u have to do salah in secret there? do u have to hide ur quran in public and in the customs at the airport? do the police destroy ur home and personal items for being a muslium? no ...not at all. but it happens in muslium countries even in ur holy place- saudi arabia. shame on u mate..u should be ashamed of your community

[adeelalam084]

but u people want to enter in those countries through backdoors by your typical lying tactics and this is what is not permissible!!!

and christian countries had to put their faith aside and adopt non.christian values and than they progressed!!!..its not becoz of christianity..u can cheat yourself but not others!!!

[VividVisionV2]

Was she dead or just dying? (Matthew 9:18) He asked for help, saying his daughter was already dead. (Luke 8:41-42) Jairus approached Jesus for help, because his daughter was dying.

Just what did Jesus instruct them to take? (Matthew 10:10) Jesus instructed them not to take a staff, not to wear sandals. (Mark 6:8-9) Jesus instructed his disciples to wear sandals and take a staff on their journey.

[zencv]

<<I couldn't understand a word..

well, this is the Islamic evangelists using the freedom of expression and "infidel media" to try to prove that other religions are false - something that is not permitted in Islamic countries

[realguitarshredder]

I couldn't understand a word..