Pinch-hit response to Aaronk1994 and Ukchristian28 Part 1

[MissKatRob]

If we deny those parts of the Bible, or any part, than we are not true Christians! And it is not dilusional to think Noahs ark ect. is real, there is evidence of a worldwide flood! However I do think its retarded to think life and intelligence just popped up out of chemicals!

[dgdbg]

Schwong? WTF? This whole thing is a major gay-fest. 1:28 CERTAINTY you sayy it gaaay.

[BornInAsphodelMeadow]

@dgdbg So I say one word weirdly and that makes me gay? And that's a bad thing?

Are you just stupid and bigoted or are you actually retarded?

[dgdbg]

@BornInAsphodelMeadow Nooo I didn't say it based solely on how you say a word.Also on your combed conditioned hair,your nickname(Meadow is ver gay)And the fact that you are corepsonding to a guy named Schwong(that sounds suspiciously gay)Could be wrong though.

[BornInAsphodelMeadow]

@dgdbg First, his name is Shwanerd, not shwong, lol. Heard what you wanted to hear I suppose.

And second, how does it matter if I'm gay or not?

[blackchimp99]

Good video.

[migkillertwo]

7: You would be the first person to convert? Shwanerd is a "proof-oriented person"? AAAHAHAHAHAHA! No sir, look up my own debate with Shwatard. He would NEVER convert to Theism. He has an enourmous emotional investment in his atheism.

8: What qualifies an argument for God as "convincing"?

9: "His beliefs are irrelevant" actually yes they are entirely relavent. You can't use Carl Jasper's authority in one area and reject his authority on another.

[BornInAsphodelMeadow]

Well, It's unfortunate that you doubt him, but I'll give you my word that what I said is true. If shown proof, myself, and probably shwanerd too would convert to whatever belief this god happened to belong too.

A convincing argument for god is one that is flasifiable, grounded on evidence, unambiguous, and that people can't mannage to falsify, as well as one that is peer reviewed.

And Carl Jasper's authority only exists in psychology, he has none over judgements about the existence of god.

[migkillertwo]

5: People who find theistic arguments persuasive are stupid, naive, emotionally weak, or ignorant? What a presumptious statement. Pray tell, is every academic christian delusional? Is Quentin Smith delusional for finding Maydole's modal perfection proof persuasive?

6: "based on empirical evidence rather than fairy tales" How about actually responding to the arguments before using well-poisoning terms like "fairy tale" or "nonsense"

[BornInAsphodelMeadow]

If one meets the characteristics of being delusional, one is delusional. If all academic christians do, then yes, they are.

And again, I don't have to, this is about delusion, not about antitheistic rhetoric. Look up your own answers.

[migkillertwo]

3: How are those things (creation, resurrection) you listed improbable or false? So this is how atheists operate nowadays? Rather than actually show how they are improbable, they just assert that belief in them is a delusion/mind disorder? The mind is capable of holding a false belief.

4: You MUST doubt your faith to not be irrational? How about giving us some defense of skepticism.

[BornInAsphodelMeadow]

I don't feel responsible for explaining how coming back from the dead, and a magical man in the sky creating everything are illogical, others have done it before me, look them up.

Also, yes, you must doubt your faith to be rational, if you think you know anything absolutely aside from your own existence, you are irrational.

[migkillertwo]

"look them up"

and look up MY refutations of them. And look up other's refutations of them. HEY! I LIKE THIS GAME!

"if you think you know anything absolutely aside from your own existence, you are irrational"

How do you know THAT?

[BornInAsphodelMeadow]

Because if you think you know anything aside from that you exist, you are mistaken, and if you are knowingly mistaken and refuse to acknowledge it, you are irrational.

[migkillertwo]

Classical Foundationalism has been subjected to severe criticisms. Look up particularism and weak foundationalism. The external world is properly basic.

[migkillertwo]

1: How can incorrigability be a criterion for delusion when we have incorrigable beliefs which are perfectly rational to hold to?

2: How does having doubts not preclude the incorrigability of a certain belief? if we are calling a specific belief incorrigable, then it cannot be doubted. But many christians have doubted their faith and have deconverted.

These are the reasons I consider incorrigability to be an absolutely absurd criterion for calling something a mental disorder.

[BornInAsphodelMeadow]

Have you studied psychology? if not, how do you feel like you're capable of judging whether or not people who've studied it for years and made it their life's work are right or wrong?

[migkillertwo]

what a brilliant argument! It surely follows from the fact that I do not have a Ph.D in a useless discipline that I therefore am not qualified to make judgements within this "discipline".

But if we are to take you seriously, then I would have no choice but to conclude that you're full of shit because, from what I've gathered, almost no psychologists would really treat theism is some sort of mind disorder.

[BornInAsphodelMeadow]

No, because they would be rejected by every theist. There are many that are probably theists themselves. Does that make it impossible that a devout theists meets the qualifications of delusion because of theism? No.

Also, I find if funny that psychology is a useless discipline, and yet you feel qualified to judge it.

[migkillertwo]

"Also, I find if funny that psychology is a useless discipline, and yet you feel qualified to judge it."

So even if one did not have a Ph.D in, say, astrology, they would not be rational to discount astrology? Psychology makes claims about the external world without empirical evidence, just speculation.

[BornInAsphodelMeadow]

Whoa, way to look up what psychology is before arguing about it. It deals entirely with the mind, not with the world itself. Also, I didn't know that you could get a Ph.D in astrology, but it's probably on similar standing with creation science if you think about it.

[PluralOfEverything]

What's illogical about it? I looked it up in the dictionary and everything. It's true.

[philhellenes]

Excellent. :)

[PluralOfEverything]

It occurred to me last night that knowledge is the opposite of faith, so anyone who claims to be in favor of faith is against knowledge.

[Lunasaur]

Again with the unicorns.

[one340]

Didn't the Dansih dude that did the comic strip get killed by muslim extremeists?

[joegocal]

he did

[Eopyk]

It was a Danish comic but great videos :)

All love from me Jasmine