Do you have a video demonstrating the one-handed method? I'm just curious. I also saw someone strap drill with "no mouth piece", but the camera angle was bad - so I don't have a clue.
@theWZZA Thanks! This was the first video we put together with an intent to exhayst all of the fire making techniques we share at the school. We never got around to ice lense, pump drill and a few others, just too much going on. Perhaps this winter.
Very cool and informative video. Having another variation of this technique at hand is awesome. Thanks for sharing. BTW, I spend a couple days at the MPSS back in '07... Mike and the gang were a fun crew to get to know.
The greater the options the more freedom you have. Being tethered to consumer products marries you to a single system. We don't prohibit modern kit, but recognize that a trained monkey can use a lighter, match or steel wool and a battery. As you manipulate the environmnt, the environment shapes you. Check out Disney's "Wall-e" as a fine illustration as to why one shouldn't limit themselves to the most convienient methods. Thank you for the inquiry!
These vids are fun and all, but what about a actual survival situation? Lets say youre a non smoker so you dont carry a lighter. Youre going on vacation or something and you survive a plane crash in the wilderness. With no lighter or handy fire starting kit, just empty pockets, how do you make these tools from the flora around you and make a fire?
A rock with a sharp/abraiding edge is all you would need as far as tools go, but an indepth knowledge of plants and trees used for fire making for that area is another. You may get away with knowing the properties of woods and plant fibers needed for cordage and fireboards/spindles, but that would add time for experimentation. Fall back on your debris hut skills until you can get a fire, assuming there are no other tools/gear at your disposal.
rabidmoneygirl got it right. Basically these methods are the most reliable for starting fire in any condition, however they require practice and like monkeygirl said, a good knowledge of the woods and plants. These are definitely skills that should be practiced at home. They're quite fun too
The irony is that anyone who has studied survival would never allow themselves to be without the tools. even just a small pocketknife would save quite a bit of time looking for flint and chipping out a usable edge.
Your absolutely right, but sometimes no matter how well someone prepares you can find yourself under equipped. Thats why its best to practice and teach the skill with the fewest amount of tools as possible this way if you Do have a knife it is that much easier. Practicing with a knife and doing with a rock is extreamly hard, as opposed to pracitcing with rocks and doing with a knife.
I think i found an answer to my problem. Loving your videos by the way! The board i have is too hard i think. Where could i get some softer ones? I live in Sydney by the way. Is there some wood that you can just find in the street or park you could use for a board??
There is no easy answer to that question, there are many "what ifs" The "easiness" could depend on many factors but it basically comes down to three; Ease of construction, Reliability in inclement weather, and Amount of physical prowess required.
I would say in anything but the desert southwest bow drill is the method of choice, because it is "easiest" physically and it is the most reliable in damp weather, though it can be difficult to carve the many pieces without a knife.
The other methods have pros and cons; many are "exotic" and dependant on specific materials or climates. Bow drill can be done anywhere with wood, excels in damp weather, and uses mechanics to increase your strength and speed.
Though hand drill requires you to have upper body strength/endurance is it my weapon of choice for the desert. It is quick to construct with even stone tools, you don't need to make any cord, and is light/easy to carry.
Great job! It is obvious you folks walk the talk (not like that cheesey video with the guy who used cotton balls and close line rope) Keep this stuff coming, it is the best skills video on the web.
Do you have a video demonstrating the one-handed method? I'm just curious. I also saw someone strap drill with "no mouth piece", but the camera angle was bad - so I don't have a clue.
Thanks for your great videos.
JJolaine 3 weeks ago
some how this is more homo than the condom one. :P
kitsurubami 10 months ago
@kitsurubami for the strap on drill, you will need to keep the shaft of your spindle lubricated as it will be going in your mouth.
kitsurubami 8 months ago
NICE !!!
SNAKEDOCTOR7577 1 year ago
It looks like magic.
theWZZA 1 year ago
@theWZZA Thanks! This was the first video we put together with an intent to exhayst all of the fire making techniques we share at the school. We never got around to ice lense, pump drill and a few others, just too much going on. Perhaps this winter.
primitiveskills 1 year ago
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APBiologyNerd 1 year ago
Very cool and informative video. Having another variation of this technique at hand is awesome. Thanks for sharing. BTW, I spend a couple days at the MPSS back in '07... Mike and the gang were a fun crew to get to know.
JRNY1605 1 year ago
Was that a touch of gas i heard at 1:38 ?Great series of how to's keep up the exellent work.
gmc07joe 2 years ago
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gmc07joe 2 years ago
The greater the options the more freedom you have. Being tethered to consumer products marries you to a single system. We don't prohibit modern kit, but recognize that a trained monkey can use a lighter, match or steel wool and a battery. As you manipulate the environmnt, the environment shapes you. Check out Disney's "Wall-e" as a fine illustration as to why one shouldn't limit themselves to the most convienient methods. Thank you for the inquiry!
primitiveskills 2 years ago
@primitiveskills What material was the fireboard made out of?
APBiologyNerd 1 year ago
It would seem to me that the biggest advantage to this method is you are watching the spark from rather close.
Loki95531 2 years ago
Can you imagine walking up on someone in the woods if they where doing that? Great videos, keep up the good work
crawboseth 2 years ago
Another superb video. I've not seen this technique it looks great. Well done Nick!
NaturalBushcraft 2 years ago
what is the heck is a "Mihtens"? i heard of mittens (gloves). are they the same?
pedalpusher101 2 years ago
its called an accent lol
TheV0iceOfReas0n 2 years ago
Guess thats my new england accent, if you have a hard time with mittens you should hear some of us talk about how some skills are "wikid hard" :-)
primitiveskills 2 years ago 2
thoses woods look like a nice place
chrissept21 3 years ago
Thanks for all these video's. It's exactly what I was looking for.
DigitalMind66 3 years ago
These vids are fun and all, but what about a actual survival situation? Lets say youre a non smoker so you dont carry a lighter. Youre going on vacation or something and you survive a plane crash in the wilderness. With no lighter or handy fire starting kit, just empty pockets, how do you make these tools from the flora around you and make a fire?
Celly222 3 years ago
A rock with a sharp/abraiding edge is all you would need as far as tools go, but an indepth knowledge of plants and trees used for fire making for that area is another. You may get away with knowing the properties of woods and plant fibers needed for cordage and fireboards/spindles, but that would add time for experimentation. Fall back on your debris hut skills until you can get a fire, assuming there are no other tools/gear at your disposal.
rabidmonkeygirl 3 years ago
ow from the plane crash im shur there whould be a fork or even a sharp peice of metal
wempem 2 years ago
rabidmoneygirl got it right. Basically these methods are the most reliable for starting fire in any condition, however they require practice and like monkeygirl said, a good knowledge of the woods and plants. These are definitely skills that should be practiced at home. They're quite fun too
RafTheGuitarMan 2 years ago
The irony is that anyone who has studied survival would never allow themselves to be without the tools. even just a small pocketknife would save quite a bit of time looking for flint and chipping out a usable edge.
guiltybystander77 2 years ago
Your absolutely right, but sometimes no matter how well someone prepares you can find yourself under equipped. Thats why its best to practice and teach the skill with the fewest amount of tools as possible this way if you Do have a knife it is that much easier. Practicing with a knife and doing with a rock is extreamly hard, as opposed to pracitcing with rocks and doing with a knife.
primitiveskills 2 years ago
I think i found an answer to my problem. Loving your videos by the way! The board i have is too hard i think. Where could i get some softer ones? I live in Sydney by the way. Is there some wood that you can just find in the street or park you could use for a board??
mr0bear 2 years ago
Think of scenarios where you may get stranded when you aren't camping or out on an adventure, and therefore aren't fully prepared.
silvermediastudio 2 years ago
i love it but i got a blister on my uper lip by a burn i still love it
flamefinger1989 3 years ago 3
hey this is a question for you, what is the easiest primitive fire making method to learn and start a fire with that is on ur videos?
please reply!
slingninja82 3 years ago
Sling ninja-
There is no easy answer to that question, there are many "what ifs" The "easiness" could depend on many factors but it basically comes down to three; Ease of construction, Reliability in inclement weather, and Amount of physical prowess required.
I would say in anything but the desert southwest bow drill is the method of choice, because it is "easiest" physically and it is the most reliable in damp weather, though it can be difficult to carve the many pieces without a knife.
primitiveskills 3 years ago
The other methods have pros and cons; many are "exotic" and dependant on specific materials or climates. Bow drill can be done anywhere with wood, excels in damp weather, and uses mechanics to increase your strength and speed.
Though hand drill requires you to have upper body strength/endurance is it my weapon of choice for the desert. It is quick to construct with even stone tools, you don't need to make any cord, and is light/easy to carry.
primitiveskills 3 years ago
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just use a lighter
ban0003 3 years ago
AWsome mate.Keep the good work.
balaclavaman 3 years ago
Great job! It is obvious you folks walk the talk (not like that cheesey video with the guy who used cotton balls and close line rope) Keep this stuff coming, it is the best skills video on the web.
rabidmonkeygirl 3 years ago
Interesting method, thanks for sharing it with us.
GardenMonk 4 years ago
Strap Drill Rocks!
primitiveskills 4 years ago
Check out Primitiveskills other videos!
NickSpadaro 4 years ago