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  • I never heard her say that she hates being a woman or that she hates men...

  • i cant feel sorry 4 single moms because the laws are pro feminent. if the laws change and are more nuetral then yes but as of now i cant. i was raised by a single mom. u r a feminist and seem to hate men. and also an elitist. lets stop acting like women are all treated the same. the most oppress group in america is black males and those indirectly oppress by that are black women. black women got it bad 4 being black. u want more division among black men and women. how will that solve anything.

  • wow, ur from fort worth? so am I!

  • @jasonROXcarlySUX Small world. My father and his family is from Fort Worth! =]

  • @aGwEENapple cowtown baby!

  • you:STEPHSTANCE: ARE COMPELLING YOU:STEPHSTANCE: ARE DEDICATED AND IS A WOMAN WHO WILL FIGHT FOR HER RIGHT:YOU STEPHSTANCE: ARE THE KIND OF PEOPLE WE NEED IN THIS WORLD TO MAKE THINGS BETTER AND THE FUNNY THING ABOUT WOMAN IS THAT THERE ACTUALLY GRACEFUL ENOUGH TO OVERCOME OBSTACLES IN INFINITE EXAMPLES AND REALIZE WHAT REALLY MATTERS. HOPE IS WHAT THIS WORLD NEEDS.

  • Mikey,

    Your ignorance is showing. For one: How do you sit there hurling names at children who are born through no fault of their own? I want to say something as ignorant as you did only more true to fact but I'll skip it.....Your thinking is flawed and your comment uncalled for. And remember: Those women aren't having those children through IVF...There are a lot of neglectful fathers out there. Yes, they had a choice, they could have kept it in their pants or used birth control themselves!

  • u appear 2 cling 2 misconstrued notions that r aleast 60 yrs. old/i bet u still think your nanny saved u/never ever usin' the adult mind, - assumin' u have 1/2 understand kids, drunk husbands weren't tryin' 2 eat u/lacking such critical thinkin' u couldn't possibly comprehend/blax adults very rarely harm whyt kids/history of truth is quit startling it reveals the exact opposite/remedial schoolin' is the better forum 4 u

  • Omg you are on point yes unity with blk/wht women need to start.

  • @jianniestrong. against who?

  • Thank you.

  • The Author is 1000% on Point!

    Another meaningful video that states a point and poses a good argument. Great!! I'm subscribing today.

  • god your ugly

  • @hudafxup that is so very immature.

  • @hudafxup to hudafxup god your so immature

  • @immalez123 cry me a river, build a bridge, and get the fuck over it.

  • Well if a woman can have a child out of wedlock, she can also raise that bastard by herself, or starve to death. Nothing entitles her or that illegitimate bastard child to anything. Welfare is theft. You breed 'em. You feed 'em.

  • @MikeyMcCrashCap I know a child born out of wedlock is called a 'bastard', but their births are NOT their faults. NO ONE decides whether or not they'll be born.

    Now, parents should ALWAYS be ready financially to raise their children but there's no reason to say a child should starve to death! No one should have to starve.

  • 5:26 when she's naming their screenname's of attractive black women COOL!

  • most men are good.

  • 2:23 now you know how it feels to be black in America

  • Strong, confident women are the sexiest.

    I disagree that men can't make a difference because we are too aggressive. That's a generalization. Some men become monks and commit to a life of non aggression.

    Do women make connections and socialize easier? Yeah, and I think that's what it's going to take to make this a better place for everyone.

  • and SWP thinks that blastin our imagine will make bm look better, ha please he's doing a hug disservice to them. thank you for the vid! he doesn't realize how much of an ass he's making of himself...not actually he does, that's what he hides his face. cuz he knows he'll get stomped in public.

  • great vid!!

  • Girl, I'm giving you two thumbs up, 5 stars AND a high-five. You prove that rationality still exists.

  • yo go girl!! thanks for speaking the truth!

  • Thanks for speaking the truth Steph! 5 stars honey!

  • Awesome video. 5/5

  • Great vid, so many people cannot relate.

  • OH wow how did I make the list. I am blushing beyond belief

  • great video!

  • I Do Not Approve This Video!

  • You are right on the money, Steph. He really is a pompuss, arrogant and cowarldy excuse of a man. He is truly a thing to be pitied because he believes he possesses some kind of sage wisdom, but he's an idiot! This joker despises women who's been blessed with strength. I wouldn't trade my strenght for anything. If men like him don't like my strenght, then life goes on.

  • Defninitely! It's hard to believe that he has a following. There's people all over the nation who shares the same viewes and has the same "values" as SWP. That's just messed up!

  • I know SWP used the word WOMEN when he spoke,however its a matter of semantics he should have used the word females instead b/c women are'nt guilty of the things swp spoke of..emotinally immature females are.2nd I think I speak for all ppl with common sense when I say that if blacks are talking amonst themselves about blacks then no one is concerned about any other races think

  • =) you made a lot of great and important points.

  • Thank you for your video. Your video is very fair. Thank you for not stereotyping and speaking truth to the ignorant.

  • Is there any other way?

    It seems as if women are blamed far to often for the ill in this world...YET are seldom recognized for all the REAL LIFE work we do. :o)

  • very boring

  • Excellent video. Not all men are aggressive. Yet you could be right about the real change in this world will happen by a woman. I believe that if any such change happens it will either be by a woman (like you) or else a compassionate male with a female as an overseer.

  • what is this black woman talking about?

  • swp needs to looses up his locs.

  • She's a Strong and Intelligent White Woman....ohhh shiiiiitttt....lol

  • Thank you so much!

  • Just here to show you love!

  • The reason he doesn't show his face is b/c people can't disagree and move on . . . if they see him in the street they might try something. So I understand why williepete doesn't show his face, his views are right but they aren't popular.

  • Oh get out of here. You are Jewish or Arab. Anyone can see it. Your noise YOU MENTIONED tells alot also.

    Your not White White. You know what I mean.

  • steph you are sweet woman and good woman, the Government dosn't want us to work together we need each other hola back.

  • Nothing is bigger than God you DUMB BITCH!!

  • God is love, that was the feeling you felt the Holy Spirit

  • WOW. This is such a HORRIBLE video. Totally random, not well put together, and IT DOESN'T ADDRESS ANY OF THE POINTS made int eh video you are responding to.

    How can you POSSIBLY disagree with the idea that (black) women need to be more selective and not sleeping around with any Tom, Dick, and Harry they meet? That was the point of his vid, and you respond with some EMOTIONAL VOMIT about a story regarding children screaming.

  • uhh, i can understand the video well

  • Some people live in the matrix.

  • This video is so pathetically weak. First of all, the harsh commentary is for baby mama drama skank ass hood rats -not hard working educated productive black women. You need to understand this. Secondly, I have no idea what you mean by a "strong" woman. Are you talking about body builders or what? Talking trash, loud, wearing multi-colored weaves, being sloppy fat, having multiple children OWL, being uneducated, cursing and hanging out in clubs does not make you strong! Got it...??!!

  • Strong women are not attractive! Why can't you see that?

    If I wanted a strong woman, I'll go out and get me a tranny!

  • She's talking emotionally and mentally strong, not physically strong. :)

  • I think this lady really did not understand what sgnt willie pete said in his video this video made hardly any since.

  • you ugly fat nigger lover!

  • you are ignorant and should keep your foul mouth to yourself

  • that was for longhairedblond83

  • You are truly disgusting, longhairedblonde83. Racism is a terrible way to waste your life. Do you feel strong for saying that word? I think you're a coward. Grow up.

  • Everything Willie Pete says is based on FACTS! Specifically here the women who chose NOT to use condoms and sleep with multiple men are who he is addressing this to. NOT all women. AND he blames the men too! Usually in separate videos.

    Cripes stop using this b.s. to justify your feminist agenda. He spells out the type of BEHAVIOR that causes disaster in the black community. Stop making it out that hes painting all women with a broad brush because he is NOT!

    Your story is nice but irrelevant.

  • This video was a total waste of 7 minutes and one second. And this women is the absolutely most hideous being on Youtube.

  • grammar correction time.

    *woman

    women is plural, idiot.

    Steph has a very valid point, small minded one, so waste your stupidity somewhere else!

  • Then understand this grammar: Steph is beyond disgusting and you're a fudge packer.

    Now, please get stay away from me.

  • Steph can you define "strength" here for us as you are using it in your video? The generation of yesterday is not the generation of today. People back in the day in general IMO had stronger character. These days it's a different story especially with the 20-30 something folks. You said: "Fertility is NOT the sole measure of womanhood, maturity and the capacity to make one's own decisions IS." And I agree. However we must accept that there are those that meet that critera and those that don't.

  • hummmm....I will try

    Men are valued for there natural strength (physical) and are paid well for it.Women are not valued for their natural strength (care giver,educator,cook,maid,nurtu­rer and so on).

    have you ever seen a man breast feed a child...give of their own body,substance? They don't and they can't YET,they are regarded as more valuable in our world.The pay scale is proof of this.

    Women,every day have to watch this go on around them.They give and give and it is taken for granted.

  • "Women are not valued for their natural strength (care giver,educator,cook,maid,nurtu rer and so on"

    --------

    Are you serios? In every society in history women were valued for those things. It was until PENIS ENVY FEMINISTS came along that thety dismissed those important qualities of women and wanted to be like MEN. And now as a result, the modern WOMAN (not men) does not value those qualities that you describe.

  • are women paid for doing these very things as men are? for doing things that are natural for them? NO...! they have never been valued as men are!

    you can never prove other wise because the proof is overwhelming when it comes to what I am stating.

  • "are women paid for doing these very things as men are? for doing things that are natural for them?"

    --------

    woman... you are PSYCHOTIC.

    First, why is there even TALK aobut paying women for being mothers??? What about paying FATHERS for being fathers as well?

    NEITHER mother OR father ought to be PAID for what they are SUPPOSED to do.

    so you are telling me that MONEY is the ONLY thing that shows PARENTS are valued.

    MONEY MONEY MONEY MONEY... the MODERN American woman.

  • ok men dont get paid for being providers or protectors

  • Humm.. having grown up poor and working class, I find your "field trip" and the story about your "Mammy" a bit condescending...but maybe that is me.

  • I find that insulting.... she was a friend of our family and if you knew any thing about me or have watched any of my past videos you would never had come to that conclusion.

  • I have to say that is being a cop out, and is deflecting the issue. It is your responsibility to cover all aspects in your video, not mine. To simply dismiss someone's critique with an ad hoc "go do such and such" shows a failure to cover all aspects and angles on your parts. Now I am not trying to paint you in the light of being "racist" or and "elitist" (I seriously doubt you are), however you are intolerant of those who do not whole heartily agree with you, but I digress...

  • Wow- she actually protected children from disparaging remarks? Sounds like the black woman took care of you better than she would take care of her own children. And after your experience in the "hood" you got to go back to Long Island and she had to go back to flatbush. When you are a woman who hates having a vagina, then I understand.

  • lol....you have no idea how much I love my vagina

  • I feel it's sad and pathetic that people would insult someone who would tries and defend someone just because they don't look they way they want them too. I hate that ignorance runs rampant the way it does. Thank you for doing what you felt was right and speaking up. There is nothing wrong with that.

  • unfortunately for me this video will attract the ignorant...

    Thank you sycjoe

  • I loved this video because it is amazing how many people actually support his nonsense. I don't see how degrading and disrespecting black women is telling it how it is. There are ways to point out negative attributes but stereotyping and making nasty rants is not the way to go about it.

  • I would say that is part of it..

  • Sweetheart you are WHITE, you had one peep thru the window into the black community and you think you have it figured out. you would have to honestly walk as an afro-am to fully understand the beef that goes on between BM and BW. you really have no room to speak in this forum. if you were a BW you would carry more weight due to your experience in our community

  • I have to agree, although she could dentify with some issues related to sexism..there is NO WAY she could ever know unless she walked in the shoes of a BW

  • LOL I kno rite!...White ppl have been the main cuz of most of our problems as a ppl in this country through the yrs but now that we are so fucked up psychologically and hating ourselves and not white ppl, they now think that they can speak on and drop knowledge on our problems.

  • I hate SWP. He need to go to hell!!!

  • I don't know him well enough to hate him...

  • You look about 50+ years old. So I'm guessing the reason why so many black people were upset about that old woman was because in those days a black person would be killed for the slightest thing in America. Have two white children on your arm was a risk not worth taking in the 50/60's.

    Did you ever think about it from that stand point.

  • Never stopped you all b4. and what r the chances that u thot he was ignorant anyway?? Since when did WPPL ever need a difinitive reason to hate? I do not agree with all of SWP points but other points have validity solely based on the racist foundation of America. WHo taught him to feel that way? His negative views r not foreign to us BW..WHites have thot that way of us since the birth of America....and still do..

  • SWP is a handsome tall goodlookin black man,

    too bad I only date white menz wit money lol.

    uz black women been nursin white women/dolls

    for hundredz a yearz. white womenz got guud hair why i got a weav. we need to bring black menz down so da white man can rule da wurl.

    My 9 babie daddies iz aw black n dey all downlows n gangsta. Um a queen n scrong n

    ndependint an too much for a black man anywayz.

  • BRAVO BRAVO BRAVO!!!!!! WOW!!! I am so proud to be a woman especially with you as a fellow woman!!!!

  • you forgot Furnifur Steph...

    Furni's hot!

    men who are intimidated by strong women are just scared because they know we don't need them to give us affirmation. Thank God my husband isn't like that. My theme song is "I'm a bitch" by Alanis Morrisette and he loves me for who I am.

  • angie8675309, You wrote that your theme song is I am a bitch and your husband likes you like that. If that is so, he needs theraphy. Some men are drawn to women that dont find them worthy of being pleased and that is unfortunate. A female bitch or a male bitch deserves to be alone. They are too damn exalted and too good in their own heads to please anyone. Its sad and the fact that you applaud yourself for it makes you a macho bitch. ~Raven

  • my husband actually doesn't like the song or that I refer to myself as a bitch but he loves me for who I am. If you would listen to the song she describes herself as "a bitch a lover, a child and a mother'. She talks about all the facets of her personality. We've been happily married for 25 years and I respect my husband more than anyone who walks this earth. Maybe you need to loosen up and not take yourself and the word bitch so seriously.

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  • Part 1~ I dont think Pete is hateful at all. I think he just says what most black men dont dare to say. He pretty much talks about the standard of beauty which isnt much different than the Discovery Channel show that aired about beauty last year. We have ridiculous standards of beauty but its real and true. He talks about attitudes and yelling and what person wants a drama queen? Not I, and I run from drama men too. His approach is candid but rarely does he say anything that isnt true. ~Raven

  • Part 2~ Of course there are alot of women who have babies too young and on welfare but Petes agenda is to discuss the black community. I dont pick up the Ebony magazine and discredit it because they write much about statistics involving black people. Pete is taken wrong because he is brash with his approach. Pete isnt talking about strong women. He is talking about weak women. Women who yell and are control freaks are weak. Just as men who yell and are control freaks are weak. `Raven

  • Go RadicalComedy Go!!! I couldn't agree with you more! Superbly written!!!!!

    "Women who yell and are control freaks are weak. Just as men who yell and are control freaks are weak." Is 100% true. The loudest one in the room is usually the weakest.

  • Just a touch of irony: the add next to your video while I am watching is a add for the international muslim matrimonial site. Life has humor. Cheers!

  • srgtwilliepete speaks on black women in a general sense..he addresses all the time that he knows there are pretty and attractive black women and ones with good attitudes...

    but most of the ones he meets, and most of the ones A LOT of black men meet are NOT attractive and/or got bad attitudes...if it wasn't such a problem amongst black men we wouldn't be spekaing about it

  • I feel it is unwise and irresponsible to promote having children out of wedlock just to prove swp wrong. Do you hate strong men? It seem you have an issue with men not just this guy. I will say this yes men want to be in charge and a good woman knows how to give her man that respect, at the same time knowing that he respects her. There is no battle... Let a man be a man and a woman be that has she is a woman. A woman is supposed to be strong who wants a weak woman...

  • Only pimps, weak azz college seniors who can't get any and some overly aggressive lesbians, who wanna snatch a young undecided chick, want a weak minded woman. A strong man wants a strong woman no needs dare I say craves a strong woman, not a feminist because feminism, was just a tool used by big tobacco to boost sales, and breeds division not unity. Men from mars women from venus NO stop this we are all from Earth and meant to be together that's why our parts fit so well merged together!

  • There are so many strong women in the world who are put down for loving themselves and knowing who they are (myself included). So many men want to control others out of fear. It's insane. But REAL men do not behave this way. Many men like this are also on youtube as well as attractive black women like the ones you pointed out. BTW I got to meet lovie2000 at SouthTube and she was lovely and very cool.

  • Their is alot of good women but those women that I see are ither going out of their race to busy trying to do for themself or their taken.

    But when I do meet them im shocked because it is becoming hopless to create a black family. This is not for everybody but for the people living in the struggle their is poverty everywhere and it is always mostly the black community going down the drain.

    We are all alike this is national attetion for black women across the dam world.

  • I started learning black people are sick. Black men and women. The concern is more about the women because back in the day alot of women used to be strong for the children but now the younger generation of women have gone to the devil. Television and Media have got most of these women thinking about Sex,Money,Drugs,Selfishness.

    Being a good black man well have you going through problems trying to search for a decent women. Most of thes women act like men noadays they wan't to challenge you.

  • And was this because of good men no alot of this was because of their own stupidity. In Toronto men have this saying and the saying is(Its a women's world) Why do they say this because women get a way with to much shit because their women.

    And its women like this one that act like their so holy because they are not in the dirt they use one small situation when their is proof that their is more neggitive in the world then good. This shit ain't happining in the states only.

  • I got to many stories Ive seen american girls come here with that ghetto mantallity.

    Ive seen West Indian Mothers put down their sons beat thier kids for bulshit reasons. Ive know East African women that are alcohalics, sold drugs and got their door kicked in by crack heads when their kids were home. Ive tried to help young girls when they were kicked out but they were so ignorent they always went for the gangster type dudes all of them ended up to be baby mothers with no fathers.

  • Why do you people always wan't to see a man face. That shows how you people are the devils in the flesh. Anybody that is smart and trying to make a serious point that knows that certain thing could happen would hide their identitiy. Would a under cover cop exspose himself to people that could tak his life? You people think so stupid. This lady is using her one exsperince only. Thats not enough. I could tell you tons of story's about black women.

  • wonderful story steph..i ran away to nyc when i was 17 and i got seperated from the freind i was with. i was alone scared, had been attacked and chased by men and i asked ppl to help me but noone would except a black woman. she was with er 2 kids taking them to the movies. she took me with them..the movie was bloodsport.took me home with her..fed me let me sleep there. and helped me get home. i wish i could find her somehow to thank her.

  • Maybe if i make a video about it - I may find her! :) Sweet, sweet story 5*'s and faved.

  • (Cont.)Maybe what he said was taken out context because of how he said it, yes there are men that don't accept what they have done, but there are women that do the same thing, to me a strong woman can admit when she made a mistake, the women that Sarge is talking about those women that are not strong enough to admit when they made a mistake, instead they go out and blame the world for the mistake they made, he just wants those women to admit to their mistakes as well as the men need to.

  • Yeah your right men don't admit to their mistakes as well, and men do make babies out of wedlock, but you are failing to realize that a lot of women (not all) make the choice to be with a man that they know is not responsible for himself and does not care but expects when a baby comes into the picture that he's just going to change, so it's not just the men, it takes two to tango, even though your right about men and how they are, but women need to take the blame as well as these men.

  • Stand up for all the strong women. This is a great video. You find just the right words. 10 stars.

  • You make some good points Steph However he did too. He is right in "WE" as non blacks can not truly understand what black people feel. However he sounded like the negative stereotypical black man that blames all there problems on White people, he even goes farther and also blames the woman of his own race. This type of "man" really needs to start holding themselves accountable. Stop perpetuating the "I can't cuz you won't let me cuz I'm black" B.S and do something to change yourself

  • I know MANY self made successful black men. I have never heard them talk about blame. They are also married to strong successful black women. I also thought it was very disrespectful of him to joke about the "type" of older strong black woman you spoke of that left such a positive impact on you. We should all strive to touch someone like she did. Being a positive example is how we erase all forms of bigotry. And as gay woman we can say we understand bigotry, WE TOO EXPERIENCE THAT DAILY..Jerlins

  • Exactly! Spewing accusations (as this man has) will not cure or better anything.

    I have listened to his videos and I do not find his argument is a "black experience" issue.I found his complaints are that of many men today.

    They want to be serviced.

  • great video, point that he is not educated enough to speak, was on the button

  • Yes and I see that my effort to interact with him was pointless....

  • Shut up you do not understand what he is talking about.

  • I understand exactly what he is complaining about.

  • I wish we had more pro-woman voices these days.

  • This world would be nothing and the human race would not exist if it were not for strong women. Cheers to you.

    I have not watch ed any of this man's videos, but I think I shall see a few, just to see what made you so angry.

  • what exactly is a strong woman?

  • I watched your videos. You seem like a strong woman to me.

    It is a definaition that is changeable and adaptable, because it is personal, and because all people have different views on strength. But One concept in relation to this definaition is universal, I think: That a woman should beleive in herself, stand up for the things she knows to be right and have the grace to accept herself for who she is.

  • Exactly Liz

  • STANDING UP AND APPLAUDING YOU!!!!!!!!!! Damn sweetheart! I love you. One more video you knocked out of the ballpark.. can I hug you?

  • Thank you.

  • I was raised by a strong woman. While my dad left, my mom moved the refrigerator, beds, car, groceries, bedding, etc. to a smaller place where we struggled happily.

    She cried when my dad left, but after we moved, she never cried again; she was working instead. I remember eating the same thing for weeks and still being happy and feeling safe.

    Don't get me wrong, I missed my dad and he played an instrumental role in my life, but my mom held it all together. Dad looked after himself.

  • And all to often this happens.Still today it is happening.

  • I'm a strong woman, and those who don't like it can suck me :D

  • hummmm.... :o)

  • It's ablout the love of fellow humans!! Women can do what us boys do anyday -- hell I'll even admit better I have seen on some occasions!! Kudos for Lovie2000 - she was at South Tube 2 and tells it like it is!! I love her!

  • also that isnt the real swp

  • I agree...as long these strong women are not Palin, or Australia's Pauline Hanson.

  • Love this video!!!!!

  • Most his followers did not catch on to what I was stating.

  • I don't think you know what you're talking about on this issue with all due respect.

  • That"s okay...I think a closed mind will remain that way as long as it chooses to do so..

  • I'm not close minded, I just think that unless you have grown up from a young boy to a man dating these women, or being in these relationships, you're speaking on assumptions rather than personal experience.

  • Cut the shit Kunnami!

    You have never been on a date or had a relationship with a Black woman, or any woman for that matter.

  • Damn, I'm busted!!!! You figured it out. But I'll get you next time He-Man. AAhahahahahahaahaaa.

  • Yup!

  • yup.

  • I hear what you where saying.Supporting all women.Women and children are treated worse than all people.Any war torn country is proof of that.

  • WOW!! He has the unmitigated balls to demand that women "lose the attitude"??? He's nothing BUT attitude. (And mouth...)

    That's a GREAT story about the baby sitter. For a 6 year old, it'd have to be an experience that'd stick with you for life. How much better would the world be if people would just drop race, and forget color, and just frickin' be PEOPLE! That lady was a perfect example, and she was strong enough to back it up.

  • Wow you are one dumb bitch. You have no idea what you are talking about. But, even morons have their place in the world, so keep it up!

  • You black men are hypocrites!

    You said she's white so she can never understand the black experience.

    Well, you're a man! (maybe?) You will NEVER understand the female experience!

    Yet, here you are pretending like you are an authority on black women. Swp and all his followers make me change my mind about abortion!

    God Damn your mothers for bringing you little hateful bitches into this world. She should have killed your ass before you took your first breath.

  • I agree he is hateful. And he seems to not understand any woman being strong. Not just black women but all women. He needs to be brought down to earth and get a grip.He is hateful and doesnt deserve the attention we are all giving him.

  • I dont mean to be mean but as I am listing to you I' thinking.. "White Liberal Guilt" I really dont think you have a clue on this subject, just my opinion.

  • Defining the subject is the start.He is attacking women who do not fit his mold,ideas of how they SHOULD be.Like many MEN today,they are feeling left out,not needed because women can support themselves and the children and so forth.

    Men are having to adjust their position in America.Woman are adjusting themselves but I feel many men are lost in the mix.

    God for bid a man say "I need to be needed"!

  • I like strong women, shame not many around.

  • I love them too!

  • Word!

  • great video!

  • StephStance, you can't identify with SgtWP. there's a difference between knowing some black people and actually empathizing with our experience & ethos. that being said, it's rather presumptuous & a bit condescending to declare how that man should feel or what you think his problem is unless you're the thought police? i respect your feminism & your good intention but your arrogance is disturbing. How can you know where Im at when you ain't been where i been? Understand where Im coming from?

  • I don;t have to be black to know when I am hearing a young man placing the load on black women.I addressed his disrespect for all women. You can not lift a person by weighing them down.

  • he hasn't heaped all the blame on black women. he merely stated his take from hin point of view. nevertheless, it's presumptive on your part to think that your way of seeing things is absolute & he's totally out there just because you disagree. he's stating the problems not engaging a discourse about uplifting or advancement.

  • Oh whatta load of shite....what's presumptuous, condescending and arrogant is to suggest that a GAY WOMAN cannot empathize with the experience of another minority.

    The fact is that you're afraid for the rest of us to "empathize" for if we do, we're taking away the last weapon of pity for black people...

    Noooooobody knows, the trouble I's seen! Noooooobody know mah sorrow!

    Stop whining about the troubles of living in a "white America" whil a Black man is about to become President.

  • i don't care about her being gay. that's not my point. in much the same way i can't pontificate about her experience or your experience, she can't make informed commentary on mine. if you think gay women are handled by the white supremist power structure in the same way that black men are, you're mistaken. empathy is the most important tool that comes with adulthood. once you understand that you'll never understand, then we'll respect each other. that's what i'm getting at

  • Whether or not YOU care, isn't the point. The point IS she's a minority and she shares SIMILIAR experiences to those that BLACK people have faced including sexism [in place of racism], hatred, bigotry and discrimination. The same? of course not. But to say she can't comment because she's NOT black is pure BS. If you're gonna play victim 'til the end of time, you're right, I'll never understand. And according to you, I can't empathize with you, cause I'm NOT black. Your argument makes no sense.

  • she doesn't share a similar experience at all. she's not aggressively pursued by law enforcement, she's not viewed as possessing inferior intellect, no one is trying to toss her a basketball instead of a book. she doesn't. she's gotten shitted on, true. that sucks. nut like i said, i don't care about her being gay. most sophisticated people don't. i'm talking about her analysis & her degree of humanity (empathy is a fucntion of humanity)

  • More rhetoric and hyperbole from the apologists for the downtrodden Black man. You know what's funny. I have THREE business partners. ALL are Black. Two of the three are non-college graduates..incidentally, they grew up in Gardena, CA and they're both wealthy. I guess that's what happens when everyone viewed you as being inferior intellectually.

    excuses, excuses, excuses...

  • i don't care about your business partners. you still don't get it. you can't understand me no matter how hard you try. i'm making no excuse either. i'm sharing something about my experience & you won't even listen to that. how on earth can you feign the ability to 'get' me & you won't even listen? i see now, you don't really want to see the truth. you're just trying to prove a point; trying to feel like you're correct. got it. peace

  • I didn't SAY you cared, I'm Illustrating a point...I understand you, you're an advocate for using the black man's best weapon...cry institutionalized racism.

    I am correct, don't need to feign anything. Keep making excuses. I've made my point, now you can go whine elsewhere.

  • if you don't think that institutional racsim is pervasive in this american construct then our discussion is done. nevertheless, i've made no complaints, i've told you how we're different & some aspects about the black male experience nothing more. only a fool would get anything else from. i guess you can't tell a fool anything. that's why i'm now done with you. godspeed

  • Oh PLEASE...according to you, I HAVE to accept your premise and further, I can't possibly understand or empathize because I'M NOT Black...A fool is a man who is WISE too late, you'll spend the rest of your life moaning about the hand you've been dealt waking up to realize that your failings are your own. Stop blaming everyone else for ever conceiveable slight...

  • upabittoolate theres really no point debating this person their in tv la la land let them stay there bro.

    Don't let them take your positive energy to build theres it's not worth it. it's like talking to your own tv, they say the same thing over and over how many times you heard this. Move on from it it's pointless

  • thank you for 2 things. 1) for being objective about what i'm trying to say & seeing the forest for the trees 2) for reinforcing my thoughts about positive energy. peace.

  • Yawn,....

  • I don't watch TV....

  • uk, what the hell do you know about it? Positive energy? Gimmee a break, all upabittoolate cares about is getting some loose shoes, tight pussy a