They had a similar scene when Chibi-Usa saw a vision of Hotaru on a cross pleading for help as a bunch of hands reach up to drag her into the shadows, and yet they showed that... I don't mind the imagery one bit considering the villains can't exactly tie the Senshi up or lock them in a cell somewhere. And speaking of faith, in the Sailor Moon S series, the Outer Senshi are looking for someone called the Messiah, and refer to the Chalice as the means of saving the world from the Silence...
I just hate the English dub period since they take out so much stuff like they even took out some episodes in the first season and come on changing Japanese names to english names (isn't kinda racist). And I just don't get how that clip is offesive like come on I see athiests wearing cross necklaces all the time.
whats so bad about this? i mean, i can see why peope would be offended, but their not mocking God or anything. there just using it to hold them. not that big of a deal...
(cont...)that being said, if you play Master of Shadows (Two Steps From Hell) this scene would hit home hard! Its a question of will they or will they not break free?
(cont...) they have no problem believing the Mayan calendar, but if Sailor Moon gets herself nailed to the cross, all of a sudden its BAD to have someone that's not Jesus on a cross...
that's why anime is getting a bad rap...there's always someone who takes things like this at face value. Being half-Christian, I should know the difference of what's real and what's fake...this scene obviously hits home for our heroes, being reduced to mere prisoners, and yet there are people out there assuming that this is offensive...yet still, they instantly cling to doomsday superstitions and old Mayan texts that claim to know the end of the world.
@Yunoha2 boy, I usually don't reply to 4 month old posts, but I don't know what makes you think Japanese people are mostly christian, that is the opposite of the truth. Theres a very very very small percent of Japanese people who are christian, the dominant religions are Shintoism and Buddhism and over over 70% of Japanese people don't consider themselves religious at all.
If Rubeus was serious about torturing Sailor Moon, he should have just killed them. It worked for Galaxia. That aside, I love Rubeus' japanese voice. But then again, Wataru Takagi is great at giving that strong evil tone.
You know, the only people that would be offended by the cross airing in anime are people that think the cross is a religious symbol. It is the symbol of Christianity, but it is also the symbol of much more deeper meaning. Kids shouldn't be "sheltered" by symbolism just because some adults don't like what it may or may not convey...have more faith in children and their parents to not be so easily influenced, you know? And just enjoy the show and relax.
Yeah, AustraRyo. I'm a Christian, and I don't find this offensive. I'm actually glad they used it, because it brings a deeper meaning and feeling into the anime/this episode. They may think they were making this more appropriate, but they're depriving children of these feelings. Whatever, I think it was dumb to edit this out.
You need to look past the reference to Christianity and se the real purpose of the symbolism here.
The Sailor Scouts are shown here as heros who have fallen to mere prisoners for only evil. Martyrs if you will. The Cross/Crusifixion is NOT only a Christian symbol, innocence and righteousness being pinned down by evil. It represents so much more and if you can't get your mind around it, that's pretty sad. The English dub makes me cringe in general, but not showing this clip was a letdown.
Okay, I understand where much of the criticism is coming from but I am certainly not the only "hard-headed" person making comment here. I would like to clarify my point. I wrote that there were MANY references to Jesus incorporated throughout Sailor Moon.
I think the show having some reference to the crucification of Jesus is inappropiate. If they had made this clip a little different, like NOT PINNING THEM TO CROSSES, then I would have been okay, but not everybody believes in God.
Not everyone believes in God,ya know? Just because you do doesn't mean all of Japan is going to bow down to your "Savior". I love the english dub,but I do wish they had kept the show in it's original and true form. But I do understand that when they aired the show many closed-minded idiots protested--thus the really corny dialouge. -_-
(...continued from prior comment...) I mean, subtle references to Jesus' crucification or life, is both fine and welcome with me. Yet, to go as far as pinning up all the Sailor Scouts in such an obvious manner is utterly and completely ridiculous. This isn't the only time Christian symbolism was used in this series but from what I've see thus far, this truly takes the cake.
Not everyone believes in God,ya know? Just because you do doesn't mean all of Japan is going to bow down to your "Savior". I love the english dub,but I do wish they had kept the show in it's original and true form. But I do understand that when they aired the show many closed-minded idiots protested--thus the really corny dialouge. I really need to learn Japanese! -_-
I think this scene is really offensive. I'm rather tired of the idea that the writers of this show are trying to portray; that Sailor Moon is the equivalent of Jesus or something. I'm actually happy this was cut from the dub but I would have preferred the Japanese writers to have had the judgment to omit this unnecessary depiction themselves. What they did in this instance was completely inappropriate. (...continued in next comment...)
Go away and take your hard headed, self righteous, religious fanaticism with you. The concept of crucifixion isn't Jesus's symbol, just the one he was nailed to. Crucifixion is a Roman concept and was done years before....and after Jesus was crucified. Just cause he made a splash when they pinned him to one, doesn't hide the fact that thousands of other people were given the same death. Get over it.
They had a similar scene when Chibi-Usa saw a vision of Hotaru on a cross pleading for help as a bunch of hands reach up to drag her into the shadows, and yet they showed that... I don't mind the imagery one bit considering the villains can't exactly tie the Senshi up or lock them in a cell somewhere. And speaking of faith, in the Sailor Moon S series, the Outer Senshi are looking for someone called the Messiah, and refer to the Chalice as the means of saving the world from the Silence...
eternasapphiremoon81 2 months ago
I just hate the English dub period since they take out so much stuff like they even took out some episodes in the first season and come on changing Japanese names to english names (isn't kinda racist). And I just don't get how that clip is offesive like come on I see athiests wearing cross necklaces all the time.
emmasmith173 2 months ago
I can not believe this as they cut this scene that's I was looking for on episode.
Pokemon7Fan 3 months ago
ITS NOT A CROSS!!!.... its the lower case letter ''t''
EmWatsonVEVO 3 months ago
whats so bad about this? i mean, i can see why peope would be offended, but their not mocking God or anything. there just using it to hold them. not that big of a deal...
emmeg516 3 months ago
(cont...)that being said, if you play Master of Shadows (Two Steps From Hell) this scene would hit home hard! Its a question of will they or will they not break free?
INTENSE!!
rizer912 3 months ago
(cont...) they have no problem believing the Mayan calendar, but if Sailor Moon gets herself nailed to the cross, all of a sudden its BAD to have someone that's not Jesus on a cross...
rizer912 3 months ago
-_-
that's why anime is getting a bad rap...there's always someone who takes things like this at face value. Being half-Christian, I should know the difference of what's real and what's fake...this scene obviously hits home for our heroes, being reduced to mere prisoners, and yet there are people out there assuming that this is offensive...yet still, they instantly cling to doomsday superstitions and old Mayan texts that claim to know the end of the world.
rizer912 3 months ago
@Yunoha2 boy, I usually don't reply to 4 month old posts, but I don't know what makes you think Japanese people are mostly christian, that is the opposite of the truth. Theres a very very very small percent of Japanese people who are christian, the dominant religions are Shintoism and Buddhism and over over 70% of Japanese people don't consider themselves religious at all.
DokiEnchantix 3 months ago
If Rubeus was serious about torturing Sailor Moon, he should have just killed them. It worked for Galaxia. That aside, I love Rubeus' japanese voice. But then again, Wataru Takagi is great at giving that strong evil tone.
Fulgore2005 4 months ago
Damn, I never noticed this. Talk about a censoring in the English version.
The appropriately titled DIC Entertainment being conservative and sheltering kids from the world...
nepomusik 6 months ago
wait nvm
zecroshac 7 months ago
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zecroshac 7 months ago
Crucifixion existed before Christianity. Common Roman punishment.
braincircus 8 months ago in playlist Sailor Moon Prince Diamond
@braincircus lol Prince Diamond LOL I used to have a crush on him XDDDDD
zecroshac 7 months ago
I can now see why so many fans hate the english dub.
cutechong 1 year ago
Not surprise this scene was cut from the english version. Stupid conservative Americans...
oldtown89 2 years ago 2
@oldtown89 fuck you
cherokeediamond 11 months ago
@cherokeediamond U MAD?
oldtown89 11 months ago
@oldtown89 nah....
cherokeediamond 11 months ago
this is a great cartoon to watch
AwsomeCuban 2 years ago
You know, the only people that would be offended by the cross airing in anime are people that think the cross is a religious symbol. It is the symbol of Christianity, but it is also the symbol of much more deeper meaning. Kids shouldn't be "sheltered" by symbolism just because some adults don't like what it may or may not convey...have more faith in children and their parents to not be so easily influenced, you know? And just enjoy the show and relax.
AustraRyo 3 years ago 18
Yeah, AustraRyo. I'm a Christian, and I don't find this offensive. I'm actually glad they used it, because it brings a deeper meaning and feeling into the anime/this episode. They may think they were making this more appropriate, but they're depriving children of these feelings. Whatever, I think it was dumb to edit this out.
Pokegirl506 3 years ago 25
0_O how can this be episode 74 if rubeus is still here?
FlatMattress 3 years ago
You need to look past the reference to Christianity and se the real purpose of the symbolism here.
The Sailor Scouts are shown here as heros who have fallen to mere prisoners for only evil. Martyrs if you will. The Cross/Crusifixion is NOT only a Christian symbol, innocence and righteousness being pinned down by evil. It represents so much more and if you can't get your mind around it, that's pretty sad. The English dub makes me cringe in general, but not showing this clip was a letdown.
Parody101 4 years ago
but its kinda scary actually. i cant believe dic cut out all the cool parts of sailor moon.. >:(
FlatMattress 3 years ago 3
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no 200 is not even colce
time12345678 4 years ago
is episode 74 the last episode in sailor moon r?
drawlover 4 years ago
SOMEBODY HAS 2 GET EPISODE 74!! PLZ!!
Adie1819 4 years ago
Okay, I understand where much of the criticism is coming from but I am certainly not the only "hard-headed" person making comment here. I would like to clarify my point. I wrote that there were MANY references to Jesus incorporated throughout Sailor Moon.
kronky2 4 years ago
this is actually a somewhat common element in anime
and right, christ wasnt the only one to be crucified
hes the only one with a big enough fan club to be remembered after he was crucified
aoimakura 4 years ago 4
I do think it's a little unnecesary. I'm not exactly a Bible thumping Christian....but there are other things to hang people off of!
Homewrecker47 4 years ago
I think the show having some reference to the crucification of Jesus is inappropiate. If they had made this clip a little different, like NOT PINNING THEM TO CROSSES, then I would have been okay, but not everybody believes in God.
SailorMoonRox807 5 years ago
damn !!WTF?? i really want to see the english version of 74 part 1 but they don't have it!! that sucks!!
LissaBaby305 5 years ago
It's a freaking cartoon man. ugh..I hate admitting I'm American. It's such a thrive-on-censorship country.
sweetxfarewell 5 years ago
You hate admitting you're American because some cartoon company edited out a crucifixion scene in a children's television show? Sheesh, get a life!
Objectivist888 4 years ago
And also -- you know that we're virtually the only country that provides for unadulterated free speech? (No, most of Europe does not have it!)
Objectivist888 4 years ago 2
You're totally wrong. In Europe there's more free speech in Europe than in the USA.
devantsoi 4 years ago 2
Not everyone believes in God,ya know? Just because you do doesn't mean all of Japan is going to bow down to your "Savior". I love the english dub,but I do wish they had kept the show in it's original and true form. But I do understand that when they aired the show many closed-minded idiots protested--thus the really corny dialouge. -_-
RedKira432 5 years ago
(...continued from prior comment...) I mean, subtle references to Jesus' crucification or life, is both fine and welcome with me. Yet, to go as far as pinning up all the Sailor Scouts in such an obvious manner is utterly and completely ridiculous. This isn't the only time Christian symbolism was used in this series but from what I've see thus far, this truly takes the cake.
kronky2 5 years ago
Not everyone believes in God,ya know? Just because you do doesn't mean all of Japan is going to bow down to your "Savior". I love the english dub,but I do wish they had kept the show in it's original and true form. But I do understand that when they aired the show many closed-minded idiots protested--thus the really corny dialouge. I really need to learn Japanese! -_-
RedKira432 5 years ago
I think this scene is really offensive. I'm rather tired of the idea that the writers of this show are trying to portray; that Sailor Moon is the equivalent of Jesus or something. I'm actually happy this was cut from the dub but I would have preferred the Japanese writers to have had the judgment to omit this unnecessary depiction themselves. What they did in this instance was completely inappropriate. (...continued in next comment...)
kronky2 5 years ago
you do know that Jesus was not tha only person to be crusified right????
jzalapski 5 years ago
Go away and take your hard headed, self righteous, religious fanaticism with you. The concept of crucifixion isn't Jesus's symbol, just the one he was nailed to. Crucifixion is a Roman concept and was done years before....and after Jesus was crucified. Just cause he made a splash when they pinned him to one, doesn't hide the fact that thousands of other people were given the same death. Get over it.
Viraqua 4 years ago
just beacuse you have a point, doesn't mean you can be a bitch about it. your the hard headed asshole, here not her.
smoofnotwar 4 years ago