Despite all the reputed faults of this film, that opening credit sequence was pure star trek in my humble opinion. Like a nod to all the striving and science of the ages, of gravitation, chemistry, optics in that spinning champagne.. culminating in the dream of a starship and noble humanitarianism. And of course they will launch ships like that in future! Very moving, enhanced and underscored by the music. Perhaps inspired at least in part by that famous transition scene in 2001.
Find me here: Judy Garland - Over The Rainbow (Subtitiles) Discovery channel show: one said: What's the nature of information? That's the whole point. It lives. Earliest information. How your kids will travel to stars History, science morality lesson by not hybrids, but our own. Orig afraid of scapegoaters (all learn scapegoating) but now just as afraid of the arrogant. Exqstly variable fine tuned to envrmnt bt infrmtl & moral Could it be, Hawking reveals pattern, as Newton sought...--healed?
Tolerance does not trump traditional beliefs. You possess treasure map, except for your many flavors of paranoia. Transference: fear those who look like prior obnoxious persons. 2d level of that concept: those who have something to fear give that fear to you. basis SCPGTG 4 profit, deception. stop fighting in the streets, trust instead, then understand free, equal, brotherhood/ s-hood DOESN'T conflict w trad rlgn but: insist RTS: respected pursuit of happiness: RSPCTD (FNDRS. REQR)
Look 2 entries down. Soul mates. I'm doing all the connections. I've been expansive as to religion and science and psychiatry. The other person on all levels does not deserve this. Just the same, I'm hanging in there seeing myself like: youtube.com/watch?v=L--cqAI3IUI not easy to get along with--thank you Google quite sure: David Wu, Brian Wilson, Judy Garland, Mary Lincoln simply close to information ted.com/talks/garrett_lisi_on_his_theory_of_everything.html Guess what T.E.D., Real.
It's no big deal, really. Living sentiments. Teachers knowing in advance. How they travel between solar systems. Information is gravitational. Information exerts gravity. Cures cancer, fixes the paralyzed, explains the travel, the blinking in and out. Also explains earliest information (God,) why you should believe in "good." Information transformational after all? All see Christ in their own way. All around me believe in "=good." The Fifth Dimension "Aquarius /Let The Sunshine In" (1969)
temporal time loop is close to what's happening Hoagland: "hyperdynamic space" don't know, really Do know: confirmations. codes. cross-hemispheric. (understand?) stories surprisingly of treasure map value seriously dangerous frauds, thugs You need to enforce anti-fraud. anti-trust. prosecute the hateful depriving of happiness (U.S. does not conflict with Europe) Save the environment. Economy. Science, morality grown up, confirming. ticket sites.google.com/site/holychanges
Even though this is widely considered to be a weak trek film, and in all honestly even I sort of see it as a long drawn out TNG episode with a cameo from a very much over the hill Shatner, I still enjoyed it. But the pissy death of both kirk and the Enterprise D still bug me.
formerly atheist You're a computer AND information? Tolian Soran like Mayan King on Isla Juan Francisco? Informational Gravity; Lisi: ted.com/talks/garrett_lisi_on_his_theory_of_everything.html Travel To Stars. Each rlgn a piece of a whole. parallels, anthologies fitting; codes; multi-hemispheric; hexagonal nan-diamonds; spin physics; mitodh DNA; unvl fabric history-morality-science proving each other youtube.com/watch?v=_KoR2t-iM9k&feature=related sites.google.com/site/holychanges
It's not just a moral test proved by science and history all
back - forth, suddenly.
PERSONALITIES HAVE BEEN FORESEEN. Information seems potentially transformational. Even if seeing from data point to point, thus through distance, measured by time, foreseen personalities are still viewable.
Universe like a computer? Born alive and moral?
Forgive the morosity, but death collapses time (and thus distance.)
I don't understand why people bash this theme either. I loved the way this film began, and emotional rush this music creates. "Generations" itself is a flawed film, yes, but it's still MILES ahead of "Star Trek V" or "Insurrection".
@zigertube Okay, I was being a little unkind to "Insurrection". It's an okay film, imo, but...I dunno. I didn't care as much about the plot or characters in that one as I did with "Generations" or "First Contact" which, despite the many logical flaw it has, it still my favorite film of the TNG crew.
A friend of mine named James, told us once Star Trek never ends. It goes on passing the torch form one generation to the next. The galaxy is immense, and yet still remains untouched by human contact. We are explorers, so thrusters ahead!! as he put it.
@Andrealistick It binds together all of humanity; what we're thriving for and longing for. As long as humans have the will to look ahead, star trek will continue to exist, in one form or another!
Great soft, haunting like beginning. Then, WATCH OUT, the Enterprise B for the very first time. I would say epic 1994 movie of the time, specially for a Star Trek legacy.
I wish that U.S.S. Enterprise NCC-1701-D Sirvived the destruction on Veridian 3, she could have welcomed the U.S.S. Voyager NCC-74656 Home 7 years later, She could have been the 1st fleet's flagship during the Domionion War and the Ship would have been handed over to Will Riker if Picard accepted Promotion to Admiral
I Found this sound track too be the best actually HuntSmacker. Very emotional music, especially with Picard in the Nexus seeing the kids he never had ?
This is real music. As I have said many times, Dennis McCarthy is a musical genious, this song really gives the whole saga a huge Sci-Fi/Captain's job sort of feeling to it.
Uhm.....you know it was offensive to die hard Trek Fans to destroy 8 Billion Vulcans.....?
How is that supposed to make us feel good about the new movie. Having Spock and Uhura knock the boots is one thing....I could live with that. But to radically alter the time line like that is VERY ignorant of how real fans feel about the Star Trek Universe.
Why not have an "alternate reality" without destroying an entire planet?
No what is illogical is being upset about an alternate timeline were Vulcan is destroyed. In Trek Prime, Betazoid was attacked by the Dominion, I do not see you complaining about that. Or for another example what about the Borg destroying Guinan home planet. Star Trek is about the just Vulcan, grow up.
What about the manner in which the planet was destroyed? There was no attempt whatsoever to make it even REMOTELY plausible.
Red matter? If a single drop could suck up a planet, don't you think it could also suck up the ship that carried it to the planet? I know, I know... force fields, right?
then red matter needed to be dropped deep inot the core of the planet to not risk a ship being sucked in. That is what happened in the movie so how is that combined with the fact that Trek is fictional translate to not being plausiable?
I was in a storage container designed for the red matter. And Spcok had so much of it becuase he was going to use it on the giant red star of Romulus.
My issue isn't the alternate time-line, it's that Abrams had to fall on the old Star Trek cliche of time travel to pull it off. Lack of originality FTL.
Five Stars to thee OST & Four to "Star Trek Generations" only because thee ending hurt way too much. Captain Kirk's death was so painful that everytime to even this day & when i hear this music, it makes me want to cry:(
I prefer Goldsmith scores since there is always the reprise of the TMP score and I like the continuity in that, but this is not bad, and the Horner movies (II and III) have good music as well.
There was something about the music in this film that just made me very emotional. I often hear that this soundtrack is regarded as the worst Trek score, I guess I'm just a big softy...
Me too man, I really love the music for this as well as the also much-maligned V; the theme when they're taking the shuttle down to "Shakaree" (sp.) is just so mysterious and awesome.
@HuntSmacker yes I agree with you! always had a 'different' kind of vibe to it, more serious yet beautifull too. The familiar TNG themes werent really in play in this movie very much so it felt like a fresh new journey, all the way to the death of the Enterprise-D which was probably the saddest and coolest end a starship has had in the trek universe
@HuntSmacker well,i think its just all the haters getting their voice heard more than us people who can actually understand startrek,i know what you mean.
@HuntSmacker I know what you mean. It deffently was very emotional. The death of Kirk, and the Enterprise D...including Picard's nephew, and his brother. It really brought all together.
@HuntSmacker Worst trek score? Not the slightest bit, I agree! It's fantastic, just about as good as those sound tracks that Mr. Horner composed for ST2 and ST3, just a completely different style so they can't be compared side-to-side.
when i saw this sequence i just knew i was in for a treat. It was beautiful to see the gravitation ballet and then when the new enterprise was at the cresendo i nearly burst my heart.
The opening theme is incredible, I remember I almost cried
BORO14531 2 months ago
Despite all the reputed faults of this film, that opening credit sequence was pure star trek in my humble opinion. Like a nod to all the striving and science of the ages, of gravitation, chemistry, optics in that spinning champagne.. culminating in the dream of a starship and noble humanitarianism. And of course they will launch ships like that in future! Very moving, enhanced and underscored by the music. Perhaps inspired at least in part by that famous transition scene in 2001.
intermender 2 months ago
This movie runs parallel to the theorized Mayan attempt to be
rescued for eternity on a science - morality - history level
by conveyors who helped the Mayans to understand a history - science -
morality connection entirely parallel to the presumed myths of the
Egyptians.
Proposed: CONVEYORS directly same.
Religions same.
The discovery of information's nature will enable your children to
travel to the stars.
The parallel today: Isle of Juan Fernandez investigation.
LetItBeFormerlyX 5 months ago
LetItBeFormerlyX 5 months ago
Anyone have the next generation motion picture collection please tell me the song for star trek generation's main menu
Noobkille301 6 months ago
yay the enterprise b 1701- kirk! kirk how does it feel to be back on the bridge of the enterprise?
omnimonaz9 8 months ago
LetItBeFormerlyX 8 months ago
LetItBeFormerlyX 8 months ago
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LetItBeFormerlyX 8 months ago
LetItBeFormerlyX 8 months ago
Check me out (plugged earlier.)
This process is ever confirming.
My father was a psychiatrist. I love music. These elements, in hindsight, are
pre-determined mattering.
It's actually our housekeeper, looking at another person, cluing me into thinking
this is 1 mm more than worthless.
From this point going forward, my reason for acting this way:
my own name is perfect for my theory and impossible.
The other person's name fits.
LetItBeFormerlyX 8 months ago
This has been flagged as spam show
Now see here:
community.history.com/topic/40275/master/1/
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LetItBeFormerlyX 8 months ago
6 months ago I'd say go away. Long history atheist.
sites.google.com/site/holychanges
It documents perversions, fraud, world of rip-offs from gay fascists saying exterminate gays
It says aliens are telling us of a morality / science.
Those interested in the web bot, Bruce Bueno de Mesquita, have it right.
Math and morality are converging.
I think the Egyptian understanding is transportable. Living sentiments.
Peoples around the world understand Christ, for instance, personally.
LetItBeFormerlyX 8 months ago
I've proposed that morality and mathematics are interchangeable.
Relativity and probablities seamlessly variable. Except one fixed point must occur?
Any relation to Ernst Mach's, Carl Mach's, Albert Einstein's thinking?
Ghandi: one religion; preceded by Vedics saying a morality bestowed by visitors
China: not similar. The ***SAME***
(offers full planet, full history scientific control: judging, scapegoating, arrogance, transference paranoia vs. none)
Newton: confirming code
Lisi
LetItBeFormerlyX 8 months ago
I think we're being instructed as to a mutually confirming morality/history lesson and science lesson.
That is supposed to enable our children to travel to the stars.
("Informational gravity")
The physics and the morality and good intent are confirmed all along
the way.
But our world will be lost environmentally and socially/economically unless you
claim your future.
Somewhere was earliest information.
Now it's everywhere. You are a computer too. PLUS
sites.google.com/site/holychanges
LetItBeFormerlyX 8 months ago
LetItBeFormerlyX 8 months ago
Even though this is widely considered to be a weak trek film, and in all honestly even I sort of see it as a long drawn out TNG episode with a cameo from a very much over the hill Shatner, I still enjoyed it. But the pissy death of both kirk and the Enterprise D still bug me.
MrSloan 9 months ago
witchdoctorwithdogma 10 months ago
formerly atheist
Now see
youtube.com/watch?v=_KoR2t-iM9k&feature=related
How science, morality and history seem to confirm each other,
suddenly, completely, full history, whole of Earth as scientific
control.
sites.google.com/site/holychanges
witchdoctorwithdogma 11 months ago
formerly atheist
Where I finish most nights.
It's not just a moral test proved by science and history all
back - forth, suddenly.
PERSONALITIES HAVE BEEN FORESEEN. Information seems potentially transformational. Even if seeing from data point to point, thus through distance, measured by time, foreseen personalities are still viewable.
Universe like a computer? Born alive and moral?
Forgive the morosity, but death collapses time (and thus distance.)
sites.google.com/site/holychanges
witchdoctorwithdogma 11 months ago
user id / formerly atheist
TO JIM TURNER / ISLE OF JUAN FERNANDEZ ARCHLGIST:
I propose that the Mayan Chief had in mind something akin to what
Dr. Tolian Soran attempts in Star Trek Generations
I've proposed that visitors are indeed coming and that they're surprisingly quite
moral-based, have comparable mitochondrial DNA, and may share a
universal mathematics underlying their existence.
NASA USES ARTISTS
sites.google.com/site/holychanges
witchdoctorwithdogma 11 months ago
I know there are detractors and plot holes, blah blah blah...If I was stranded somewhere, I would choose this movie!
guitarbo1 1 year ago
I don't understand why people bash this theme either. I loved the way this film began, and emotional rush this music creates. "Generations" itself is a flawed film, yes, but it's still MILES ahead of "Star Trek V" or "Insurrection".
datalal624 1 year ago 2
@datalal624 I liked Insurrection. It's the only Picard-crew movie I did like.
zigertube 1 year ago
@zigertube you did not like First Contact?
Joker3797 1 year ago
@zigertube Okay, I was being a little unkind to "Insurrection". It's an okay film, imo, but...I dunno. I didn't care as much about the plot or characters in that one as I did with "Generations" or "First Contact" which, despite the many logical flaw it has, it still my favorite film of the TNG crew.
datalal624 8 months ago
So Sad when Kirk Dies.....
AIRANORAK 1 year ago
A friend of mine named James, told us once Star Trek never ends. It goes on passing the torch form one generation to the next. The galaxy is immense, and yet still remains untouched by human contact. We are explorers, so thrusters ahead!! as he put it.
Andrealistick 1 year ago 3
@Andrealistick It binds together all of humanity; what we're thriving for and longing for. As long as humans have the will to look ahead, star trek will continue to exist, in one form or another!
NissanN12Dude 1 year ago
Great soft, haunting like beginning. Then, WATCH OUT, the Enterprise B for the very first time. I would say epic 1994 movie of the time, specially for a Star Trek legacy.
Ashenion22 1 year ago
Probably the best intro music to a Trek movie next to Eidleman's Overture for ST6
UndyingNephalim 1 year ago
i know what you mean ,this music is so wonderful to listen to
amcstudio30 1 year ago
SO SAD WHEN KIRK DIES END OF AN ERA FOR ME
AIRANORAK 1 year ago
I wish that U.S.S. Enterprise NCC-1701-D Sirvived the destruction on Veridian 3, she could have welcomed the U.S.S. Voyager NCC-74656 Home 7 years later, She could have been the 1st fleet's flagship during the Domionion War and the Ship would have been handed over to Will Riker if Picard accepted Promotion to Admiral
MrJDW123 1 year ago
I Found this sound track too be the best actually HuntSmacker. Very emotional music, especially with Picard in the Nexus seeing the kids he never had ?
Democritus8181 1 year ago
This is real music. As I have said many times, Dennis McCarthy is a musical genious, this song really gives the whole saga a huge Sci-Fi/Captain's job sort of feeling to it.
SkepticalMetalArts 1 year ago
There's not one of you pukes I can't take in a fight. Any questions.....? Didn't think so.
dirtydougswick 1 year ago
Blame the Romulans they are the ones who hated the Federation and the Vulcans so much.
SR71ABCD 2 years ago
Yeah. I am glad Romulus is wiped out now.
PaulDougouba 2 years ago
except Nero was not allied with Romulus.
Degobunny 1 year ago
I am SO mad at the new Trek film....THEY DESTROYED VULCAN!!!
They screwed the entire Trek time line!!!!
PaulDougouba 2 years ago 3
just look at it as an alternate timeline
nonamebrand0 2 years ago
they should bring back the next genration to fix it
12365paul 2 years ago
lo bringing back tng to fix a destroyed planet? how is that guna work?
tsm32383 2 years ago
yes it was stupid
abvmoose87 2 years ago
who knows maybe new kirk lives. :)
MrHoppers002 2 years ago
Thats true but I'm so glad i saw how kirk cheated in his Kobayshi Maru test. Also find the future's Spock!
SR71ABCD 2 years ago
Uhm...you know it's an alternate reality, right...?
kalenmiyan 2 years ago
Uhm.....you know it was offensive to die hard Trek Fans to destroy 8 Billion Vulcans.....?
How is that supposed to make us feel good about the new movie. Having Spock and Uhura knock the boots is one thing....I could live with that. But to radically alter the time line like that is VERY ignorant of how real fans feel about the Star Trek Universe.
Why not have an "alternate reality" without destroying an entire planet?
PaulDougouba 2 years ago
To be upset because of the events of an alternate universe would be...illogical. :)
kalenmiyan 2 years ago
It is obvious you are racist against Vulcans.
That is illogical. You are just another Human Supremacist.
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PaulDougouba 2 years ago
No what is illogical is being upset about an alternate timeline were Vulcan is destroyed. In Trek Prime, Betazoid was attacked by the Dominion, I do not see you complaining about that. Or for another example what about the Borg destroying Guinan home planet. Star Trek is about the just Vulcan, grow up.
Degobunny 1 year ago
@Degobunny
I hope the Borg assimilate your hateful ass.
You don't deserve to live in the Trek Universe!
PaulDougouba 1 year ago
well thankfully I live in the real world, lol
Degobunny 1 year ago
@Degobunny
What about the manner in which the planet was destroyed? There was no attempt whatsoever to make it even REMOTELY plausible.
Red matter? If a single drop could suck up a planet, don't you think it could also suck up the ship that carried it to the planet? I know, I know... force fields, right?
drewmandan 1 year ago
then red matter needed to be dropped deep inot the core of the planet to not risk a ship being sucked in. That is what happened in the movie so how is that combined with the fact that Trek is fictional translate to not being plausiable?
Degobunny 1 year ago
@Degobunny
But what about the huge pile of red matter ON BOARD the ship? Why doesn't that suck in the ship?
drewmandan 1 year ago
I was in a storage container designed for the red matter. And Spcok had so much of it becuase he was going to use it on the giant red star of Romulus.
Degobunny 1 year ago
My issue isn't the alternate time-line, it's that Abrams had to fall on the old Star Trek cliche of time travel to pull it off. Lack of originality FTL.
zigertube 2 years ago
ne an alternate timeline in the film? I do not know about you but if Star Wars or Enterprise are any indication, prequels suck.
Degobunny 1 year ago
I hated this movie (in fact, I don't enjoy about 50% of the Star Trek films), but Trek always managed to have great soundtracks.
I'm probably in the minority, but I always thought it would be cool if there was something like 'Fantasia' dedicated to Star Trek scores.
TheWindClaw 2 years ago
Yes it was sad wasn't it!!!!
The end of an era :o(
But Kirk would of been the greatest Captain of Star fleet.
Immortalised
Democritus8181 2 years ago
Five Stars to thee OST & Four to "Star Trek Generations" only because thee ending hurt way too much. Captain Kirk's death was so painful that everytime to even this day & when i hear this music, it makes me want to cry:(
Artionis 2 years ago 2
Kirk died twice in the movie. one death epic and great. the other horrible and sad. on top of that he was buried under rocks.
hoppers001 2 years ago
I didnt like the film, but the music is amazing...
neb1029 2 years ago
this movie had the best score out of all st movies
deviantpixelus 2 years ago 4
hey hey now! must not ever forget 2 and 3.
penske13 2 years ago
I prefer Goldsmith scores since there is always the reprise of the TMP score and I like the continuity in that, but this is not bad, and the Horner movies (II and III) have good music as well.
indianamotors 2 years ago 4
That is such a gorgeous score. McCarthy did an awesome job.
gravics 2 years ago 8
I love the soundtrack, I need to find it somewhere.
BenderBurgers 3 years ago 10
Have you tried Amazon or eBay?
TheManiacOnWheelsUSA 2 years ago
I dont use credit cards , i dont think ebay takes money orders.I can have this local shop order it for me probably.I used to have it years ago.
BenderBurgers 2 years ago
There was something about the music in this film that just made me very emotional. I often hear that this soundtrack is regarded as the worst Trek score, I guess I'm just a big softy...
HuntSmacker 3 years ago 24
Me too man, I really love the music for this as well as the also much-maligned V; the theme when they're taking the shuttle down to "Shakaree" (sp.) is just so mysterious and awesome.
MetalMGH 3 years ago 4
Worst my a**. It's my favorite.
mkabbz 2 years ago 5
despite being a Jerry Goldsmith fan I have to say this is the best Trek movie score of them all !
anshumang1 2 years ago 6
@HuntSmacker yes I agree with you! always had a 'different' kind of vibe to it, more serious yet beautifull too. The familiar TNG themes werent really in play in this movie very much so it felt like a fresh new journey, all the way to the death of the Enterprise-D which was probably the saddest and coolest end a starship has had in the trek universe
jaydavies1984 1 year ago
@HuntSmacker well,i think its just all the haters getting their voice heard more than us people who can actually understand startrek,i know what you mean.
OsanBlackCat5RS 1 year ago
@HuntSmacker I know what you mean. It deffently was very emotional. The death of Kirk, and the Enterprise D...including Picard's nephew, and his brother. It really brought all together.
Ashenion22 1 year ago
@HuntSmacker Worst trek score? Not the slightest bit, I agree! It's fantastic, just about as good as those sound tracks that Mr. Horner composed for ST2 and ST3, just a completely different style so they can't be compared side-to-side.
NissanN12Dude 1 year ago
Well, unfortunatelly I don't think the Enterprise-B is such a beauty, but anyway, you're right intermender, it's very touching ;)
Philip31415926 3 years ago
haha the Enterprise B is my favorite ship, thats why I really enjoy this movie. I really wish the B and C could have gotten a little more regonition.
DarthNecros390 3 years ago
yeah same i really like the B and it would be could if they made a tv series about the Enterpise's B & C like their adventures around the galaxy
frostyfilmsjp 3 years ago
when i saw this sequence i just knew i was in for a treat. It was beautiful to see the gravitation ballet and then when the new enterprise was at the cresendo i nearly burst my heart.
intermender 3 years ago 2
I love this music, so the movie.
Both are very mysterious.
Great=)
Philip31415926 3 years ago 3
Ever noticed that theres a significant similarity at the End of this song to the song from "Queen - Who wants to live Forever" ?
Very nice!
HunkeyPunk 3 years ago 2