Replacing Drum Brake Shoes Part 2

[BeachCarr]

I did those brakes before....I did have the one with the hooks that yours didn't...They are a pain to deal with.

[dmeriza39]

Wonderful Job... You explain everything in detail when you are doing any job. I could understand and lern from you when you are doing any job, Thank you for your time and effort. God and Jesus Christ bless you. Amen.

[BigSexc]

Greetings and thanks from Melbourne, Australia. I can go get even 'dirtier' now.

[michellev7676]

this is probably a silly question, but is there anything i should know about jacking up the entire rear of the car and using jack stands... like that I should have giant wheel chocks or shouldnt do it without a lift...

[bigmarc977]

good video dude really helped

[mustangpaul05]

I no longer fear drum brakes. I was about to ebay off some brake tools, but no way now. Thanks!

[andrewbetsuie]

thank you so FN much man

[DeniseElizabeth90]

thank god for this guy

[middleastin]

excellent! 

[hrl15]

Its offical I have a headace. I cant change brakes

[acall4531]

i havent watch that video u sent me but I'm getting around to it and when i do i let u know if it helps me or not but thanks for sending me that video:)

[MrCaparica]

job well done

[WarzBlade]

How come u not wearing boots lol sandals will cut ur foot off ::LL

[TNRYOU]

thanks 

[acall4531]

do u know anybody that knows a lot about my truck to tell me how to fix it??

[machinegunkeli]

thanks, man! hadn't touched drum brakes since auto school and this was a nice brush-up for a job coming soon.

[acall4531]

and i was just worndering on how to change a fuel filter on a 1995 dodge dakota slt?

[EricTheCarGuy]

@acall4531 I honestly don't know the specifics on that one to be honest, you might ask that question over at my forum.

[acall4531]

hey i was just worndering on how to change brake drum on the backs of a 1995 dodge dakota slt?

[EricTheCarGuy]

@acall4531 The principals in this video should apply to that application.

[lemingsoup]

you are a true american hero

[EricTheCarGuy]

@lemingsoup Thank you!

[sir240s]

i see one huge mistake :) you should never station your jack under the back axel or bridge or what ever you would like to call it, because you could ruin the tracking of the car and pay for many weels :)

[EricTheCarGuy]

@sir240s Thanks for your input.

[ganormand]

What are the sprays you used?  Will whiye lithium grease work for anti-seize?

[EricTheCarGuy]

@ganormand I think it would be better if you used the anti-seize but the lithium grease will work it just won't last as long.

[macmatic]

Heartless criticism Pt2: I followed your lead on the spring above the star wheel but I think you've got it backwards. The diagram near the end and another I found online seem to show the hook towards the outside. When I first got the shoes on the D side was hanging before I'd adjusted at all, after looking at it a few times I think the P brake lever was hanging up on the hook of the spring. I swapped those from side to side and it worked perfectly after that. Thanks for the video!

[macmatic]

Eric, thanks for this video. It's been a long time since I've done drum brakes but I watched your tutorial before I did my Sunfire and had no real problems but I believe there may be two errors in your video: One is the self adjuster pawl return spring, you say it may or may not be needed. I'm pretty sure that without it the brakes could tighten up because there would be nothing to stop the star wheel. I'll put the 2nd in another message.

[EricTheCarGuy]

@macmatic Thanks for your input.

[jamiegwhite30]

perfect!

!!!

[Anagonwolf]

Hey, thanks a lot!!! It's 2;30 AM at the moment, and I'm about to go out to reassemble the rear brakes for my mom's Suburban (after watching part 1 to disassemble). You are helping me tons! I've swapped diesel engines, transmissions, and what not, just never drum brakes before, so thanks for making this humbling experience so easy on me. By the way, you have achieved your goal of helping us save money. I'll have to invest in spring removal tools next time though, pliers only get you so far...

[EricTheCarGuy]

@Anagonwolf Indeed they do. Thanks very much for your comment and good luck.

[lakatu28]

Thanks Eric the Car Guy for what you are doing to all of us. Question: Is this also the same process for dodge Caravan 1996? Please let me know...

[EricTheCarGuy]

@lakatu28 It may not be exactly the same but close, you might want to check out the video I did on the PT Cruiser brakes for something more 'Dodge' related that might be closer.

[mrarmstrong218]

Wow Thanks Eric the Car Guy! Great Job 

[vicline80]

This video is great help thank you so much for the great work and knowlege that you passing on thank you again God Bless

[EricTheCarGuy]

@vicline80 You're most welcome, thank you very much for that comment.

[dun4now2]

Nice job Eric but you forgot one thing, when you put the spings on you did not squeese the ends back where they should be. If left to wide they will come off.

[EricTheCarGuy]

@dun4now2 I've never had an issue with that but thanks for your input.

[stillbornist]

Great video, thanks a lot! Quick question: When you're pulling on the parking brake cable to center the shoe assembly, can the same be done by pulling on the parking brake lever from inside the car?

[EricTheCarGuy]

@stillbornist Yes it can.

[memorycdrew]

Is this a Ford rear axle?

[EricTheCarGuy]

@memorycdrew GM actually.



[2010Reilly]

i use multi colored paint pens to mark the parts and where they attach

[EricTheCarGuy]

@2010Reilly Thats' a great tip, thanks for posting it.

[deerco1]

thanks for the info....i'll save a ton doing this myself.



[EricTheCarGuy]

@deerco1 I love comments like this.

[eric11520]

dam you got me scared its harder than i thought but i cant get my drum off

[EricTheCarGuy]

@eric11520 Check out the video I did on Removing Brake Drums The "Easy Way", that might help. Good luck.

[boba78911]

Another thing o consider is once you've installed new brake pads anywhere 1-make sure they're working right buy starting the car pumping the pedal a few times then once you know there working do 2-3, 60 to 0/complete stops and your good!

[EricTheCarGuy]

@boba78911 That's a great tip, thanks for your input.

[lkjhz99]

did I miss when the parking brake spring was reinstalled?

[EricTheCarGuy]

@lkjhz99 Perhaps you did as it is in the video.

[ltsgoyanks]

LMAO!!! Those springs don't care about you!

[tritonsky]

Thanks for the video, Eric. I think I may attempt to replace the shoes on my Hyundai after watching this. Question: Why have drum brakes at all? I wonder why car makers just don't use disc brakes all the way around, would be easier to replace? I guess some cars do, but others put drums on the back. Wonder why?

[EricTheCarGuy]

@tritonsky Drum brakes are still much cheeper to make than disc. Disc brakes have their own set of problems and aren't perfect. Thanks for the comment and good luck with your brakes.

[11Stucat]

@ericthecarguy, I did. and i got them on. After driving it a couple days, is it normal to have a slight burn smell from the new pads? The brakes are working fine and are not grabbing. My wife pulled in the drive way and noticed the smell. The rim was a little hot, I just figured it was from the driving. Thanks again for the video.

[EricTheCarGuy]

@11Stucat Yea new shoes may smell for a couple of days but if it stays longer than a week it's worth looking into.

[upallnight888]

If you get grease on the new lining, you need to get some sand paper and sand off thegease and dirt from the lining. If you don't remove the grease, they will contaminate the new lining as you use the brake.

[EricTheCarGuy]

@upallnight888 Thanks a good point, thanks for the input.

[badbernrock]

Excellent videos, thank you so much. btw, I do the same thing, wearing the most comfortable footwear I can find when I'm doing work like this. =)

[EricTheCarGuy]

@badbernrock I've gotten a lot of flack over that in this video, thanks for the comment.

[11Stucat]

Great vid but, now my emergency brake plate by the shoes is messing with the adjuster. I spin the wheel it makes noise and cause my adjuster plate to go off the little wheel

[EricTheCarGuy]

@11Stucat It may not be installed correctly, you might want to go back and check over the work.

[Jorge86053]

Good Video , a good way to remember how to put everything the right way is doing one side at a time.

[EricTheCarGuy]

@Jorge86053 Great tip I believe I mentioned that in the video. Thanks for the comment.

[Galley415]

shouldnt you also apply brake cleaner to the actual brakes your greasy hands have touched?

[EricTheCarGuy]

@Galley415 You could do that or you could do as my friend BigBlockMustang suggested and put masking tape on the friction material till your done with the work and just remove the tape along with any dirt.

[CRAZYCHICKIN]

eric im having trouble with my 05 dodge dakota ive got my rear new shoes on but my drum will not fit i do have the small and big shoe but i have no idea what can cause the prob i have my adjuster all the way in

[EricTheCarGuy]

@CRAZYCHICKIN Try pushing the wheel cylinder in at the top in the same way you would a caliper piston. Just take the shoes and push in on it from both sides at the same time and then try to install the drum.

[aussiesparks]

Cheers for this video eric, it gave me the confidence to give my own brakes a shot, they looked a little different on a datsun 1000, but the same sort of things applied.

You saved me alot of money, and above all gave me a good learning experience, cheers mate!

[EricTheCarGuy]

@aussiesparks I'm very happy to hear that my video helped you, thank you for your comment I really appreciate it.

[boxerbart]

You're the man, no effin joke. Thanks for the help.

[EricTheCarGuy]

@boxerbart Thanks very much for that. Your welcome.

[loudpipesavelives69]

I've never understood why in this day in age automakers still use rear drums on cheap cars. it's allot more hardware to manufacture than a simple rotor and caliper with two tiny pads... why use do they still use this 1960's technology?

[EricTheCarGuy]

@loudpipesavelives69 Actually it's 1920's technology but the reason is supply and demand, lots of drum parts still in circulation which actually still makes them cheeper than disc. Also consider that there is less materials in this design which would also contribute to a lower cost. Thanks for the comment.

[5656563]

stay dirty lol nice n very very helpful :) confidence went up ;P



[EricTheCarGuy]

@5656563 I love to hear that. Thanks for the comment.

[loudpipesavelives69]

awesome vid! i've done my own brakes 20 years and i still learned a couple of tid bits from you thanks for posting!

[EricTheCarGuy]

@loudpipesavelives69 I'm glad you liked the video, thanks very much for the comment.

[MrTee448]

When you compare your older videos (like this one) with your newer ones, you can see that you're really getting your video and teaching chops down.

Quick question: auto parts stores sell two different sizes of shoes for my car. How do you size brake shoes?

I see in this video that the max dia. is 201mm. Does that mean it takes 200mm shoes?

Thanks. Your early videos are great too, btw.

[EricTheCarGuy]

@MrTee448 Great question and one for your parts guy so you might want to have your VIN # handy when you get your parts as it should have the shoe size that you need. This normally happens because there is more than one brake application for a particular vehicle. Thanks for your comments.

[kingshat55]

Great video! I just changed the drum breaks on my 1988 Merkur XR4TI

[masongalbraith]

LEGO MY EGO

[ohillny]

I do a little work here and there on cars nothing major brakes changing out parts always looking for short cuts or the correct way to do things greats tips here. I appreciate you taking your time going step by step and explaining things. I am going to check out your vids and subscribe to your channel...

[EricTheCarGuy]

@ohillny Glad you like the video and that you were able to get something from it. I appreciate the comment and the sub thank you.

[shoonger001]

thanks man, now i am for sure going to do this my self :D

[EricTheCarGuy]

@shoonger001 Good luck and thanks for the comment.

[MEGARETH69]

Thanks for sharing.

[o0sum1udontknow0o]

i did everything you said on this and got my wheel bearing changes and brakes replaces, one thing though is my e brak has no power anymore. knowing me i probably tugged it too hard too much, any suggestions?

[EricTheCarGuy]

@o0sum1udontknow0o I think you should start by checking your rear brake adjustment first and get that to where it's correct, if you still have an issue then look to the cable adjustment for the parking brake.

[rayspeakmoore]

@o0sum1udontknow0o The reason you have no power I believe is the fact that you may have had your brake engaged when you were adjusting the contact lever that makes connection with the drums. Eric said your drum shouldnt make contact but if your brake was engaged then it should make contact. the only time your brakes shouldnt make contact with the drum is when your brake is disengaged.

[tuberstoma]

Love the video. Really helpful, but I notice that my Subaru Impreza wheel doesn't spin as freely as the one in the video. Even with the star adjuster all the way down. So I've been having difficulty doing final adjustment. Plus the e-brake seems to not engage enough, even when the star adjuster is pretty tight. Is it the all wheel drive that creates more drag on the wheel?

[EricTheCarGuy]

@tuberstoma If it's all wheel drive you are working against the resistance of the drive line. I recommend putting it in neutral when making the brake adjustment.

[tuberstoma]

@EricTheCarGuy Thanks for the advice. That seemed to work.

[DaveYeisley1]

A buddy who "knew how to do brakes" walked me thru what I needed to do. Needless to say it was a disaster! Did the first brake and had pieces laying everywhere and no idea how to put it back together. Watched your video and was able to put it together. Then I did the other side and it only took about 10-15 minutes. Thanks Eric!

[EricTheCarGuy]

@DaveYeisley1 I'm very happy to hear the video helped, it's the greatest thing ever really. Thanks for the comment.

[TokkenNinja]

Ummm.. this will save my life when I do my brakes tomorrow. I don't have those specialized tools, but I'm sure I'll be ok. With the shoe adjustment near the end, I hear that braking while reversing will self-adjust the shoes, true?  (2003 F. Windstar)

[EricTheCarGuy]

@TokkenNinja I highly recommend you get the tools, they really aren't all that expensive, less than the brake shoes perhaps. As for the adjustment re-watch the video because that is not always the way it works, aside from that after installing the shoes you need to adjust them first or you may not have a brake pedal at all. Good luck.

[Naptownstreetsquid]

Yeah I always do drum brakes without tools swearing that I will surely never have to do drum brakes again, and I kick scream and curse the entire time, not to mention almost poke my eye out with varies screwdrivers and needle nose pliers. Im gonna go buy that tool!

[EricTheCarGuy]

@Naptownstreetsquid It's really not that expensive and it makes all the difference really. Good luck and thanks for the comment.

[CjkPHD]

Lego my eggo.

[bertoast99]

good stuff that second return spring i hate, i need one of those fancy spring tools

[EricTheCarGuy]

@bertoast99 It makes a huge difference when doing this job. Thanks for the comment.

[EdvvardCash]

This project was a pain in the ass until your video. Thanks for putting this up! :D

[EricTheCarGuy]

@EdvvardCash I'm happy to help, thanks for the comment.

[wforsyth1951]

Eric. Te felicito eres muy grafico y tus videos, son buenos. Please upload a video for brakes on Dakota dodger 1998 Gracias Amigo.

[EricTheCarGuy]

@wforsyth1951 I make videos based on what comes into the shop so the same vehicle has to come in needing the same service and I need time to shoot the video. I'll do what I can.

[TDWPxLordXenu]

Im doing this.. this weekend to my 5.0 Mustang and this will help me so much. Thanks man!

[waltradam]

this is a very good tutorial! thanks a lot!

[EricTheCarGuy]

@waltradam Your very welcome, thanks for the comment.

[192ali1]

Thank you

[EricTheCarGuy]

@192ali1 Your welcome, thanks for the comment.

[620janessa]

great video man lots of props

[EricTheCarGuy]

@620janessa Glad you liked it, thanks.

[flash3780]

Great video, thanks a ton! It's good that you mentioned to keep the other wheel as a reference, in case you get stuck.

Also, I usually like to back the car down a hill afterwords to set the automatic adjusters. :-)

[EricTheCarGuy]

@flash3780 The automatic adjusters don't work worth a darn in my experience especially after a brake job like this that's why I recommend making the adjustment before you finish the job. Thanks for the comment.

[chamblizi]

LEGGO MY EGGO .....

[skooch1007]

No worries, and can I borrow that acetylene torch setup when I tackle the exhaust?

Eric, you're the Man with the cam.

Loyal devotee,

DB

[EricTheCarGuy]

@skooch1007 I got a thing about loaning out my tools so probably not but I'll make all the videos I can to help. :)

[skooch1007]

Eric,

Wonderful tutorials. You're a natural teacher. Bought a '93 Ranger and this is a job it needs and now I can do it.

Many Thanks,

David

Your website is my next stop

[EricTheCarGuy]

@skooch1007 Your most welcome, thanks very much for the comment and good luck.

[LPhlubKOJxwb]

very nice very nice. let go my eggo that the best part. haha

[boonthip100]

thank you so much for your sharing....it's as best lesson for learning

good for everyone....

you are very hospitality person..

I very excited during watching this video..

thank you & God bless you .

[EricTheCarGuy]

@boonthip100 Thank you for that great comment.

[0nesh0t0311]

Are those steel toe sandals? ;-)

[EricTheCarGuy]

@0nesh0t0311 Yea I've gotten a lot of crap over that and I should if I'm honest. Thanks for the comment.

[Dantesdoom]

Hi Eric, im pretty familiar with cars and do a lot with my own car. But i have had a problem i could not answer as i dont know much about drums. My friends 95 camaro had faulty rear drums he had serviced many times...new pads and the fluid was good, but they never worked. We could put it on a jackstand and watch them spin regardless of ebrake or norm. brakes. Once after pulling the ebrake a while later the brake light came on and never went off. What do you think was the problem?

[EricTheCarGuy]

@Dantesdoom The first thing that comes to mind is the brake adjustment, if it was not properly set up as I show in this video it would not apply the brakes correctly, that's where I would start anyway.

[ghosty426]

GOD BLESS YOU!

[RealJayJohno]

very nice

[Mis0MiS0123]

thank you a ton

[EricTheCarGuy]

@Mis0MiS0123 Your welcome, thanks for the comment.

[pwlooo]

Eric, don't you get annoyed by those springs? Because I do, more often than not ;p

[EricTheCarGuy]

@pwlooo The right tool makes all the difference.

[hudsonjamesc]

i am in the same boat

[matjunky52]

you save yourself alot of trouble buying new hardware and mimicing the old wardware with your new shoes/hardware, also it is reccomended highly to replay the wheel cylinder and outer drum

[EricTheCarGuy]

@matjunky52 The hardware is a good idea for sure since it's not that expensive but I only replace wheel cylinders if they are leaking. Thanks for the comment.

[13FravelJ]

"Leggo My Eggo". that came out of no where

[bmxchamp4]

Cool thanks.. By the way just wanted to say I literally lol'ed when u were like "leggo my eggo" hahaha

[EricTheCarGuy]

@bmxchamp4 Glad you liked it, thanks for the comment.

[diesel5355]

How do you know when drum replacement is necessary?

[EricTheCarGuy]

@diesel5355 An inspection is the only way I know.

[beatballer12]

My El Camino thanks you, and so do i. Great vid.

[EricTheCarGuy]

@beatballer12 I love those car/truck things, I might just pick one up some day. Thanks for the comment.

[DragsterNFS]

thank you very much for this video, saved me some money!

[EricTheCarGuy]

@DragsterNFS That's probably one of my favorite things in life, saving people money. Thanks for the comment.

[TheLaz3411]

thank you, i had no idea how drum brakes work. This video has just made me more knowledgeable!

[EricTheCarGuy]

@TheLaz3411 Glad the video helped, thanks for the comment.

[iluvmyibanez21]

You sir have a subscriber. I hate drum shoes so much

[EricTheCarGuy]

@iluvmyibanez21 Welcome aboard and thanks for your comment.

[demoniakable]

nice video thank you very much you save my life hahaha and some money thanks again

[EricTheCarGuy]

@demoniakable I'm happy to be of service, thanks for the comment.

[wyomingresident]

Excellent video, I'll be watching more from Jackson Hole!

[EricTheCarGuy]

@wyomingresident Glad you liked it, thanks for your comment.

[wyomingresident]

Excellent video, I'll be watching more from Jackson Hole!

[stevemeen519]

Great job explaining everything. I appreciate your time you gave! Thanks alot

[EricTheCarGuy]

@stevemeen519 Thank you very much, I had a lot of fun making this one.

[KrillinGoku]

This video really helped me but I have one question. Are there any tell-tale signs that I may have done them wrong? If I'm driving about will I be able to notice anything amiss?

[EricTheCarGuy]

@KrillinGoku Normally yes, with the exception being getting the shoes in the wrong position as I illustrate in the video, you really won't notice that so much.

[AlphaOmega503]

very detailed, thanks.

[EricTheCarGuy]

@AlphaOmega503 Glad you liked it, thanks for the comment.

[rightfuzzball]

nice videos eric. i post a few wrenching ones too. take care , Tom

[reglus03]

Nice video! It's seems very easy but the thing is remember where all parts goes. Nice!

[EricTheCarGuy]

@reglus03 It's not that bad really, take your time and you should do fine. Thanks for the comment.

[satanz31]

I have a 10 second 300zx that I built the engine and everything on. I always do all of my own work where I can. I just did the drums in my wifes Hyandai and I just want to say that drum brakes are THE FUCKING ANTICHRIST!

Thanks for the vid though, it did help.

[EricTheCarGuy]

@satanz31 Yea, working on cars' isn't always what it's cracked up to be. Thanks for the comment.

[CountryGuyZ71]

Dangerous display of replacing brakes...cheap jack and no safety jack stands. Good way to hurt yourself.

[EricTheCarGuy]

@CountryGuyZ71 The jack stand is just out of frame on the right, you can see it when I flip to the other side. I normally leave the jack in place but the load on the stands to make it easier to lower the car when I'm done. Thanks for the comment.

[davelowe1977]

Thanks for making this video -drum brakes were a complete mystery to me before I watched it!

Also - for once on youtube, a video without a) ego and b) needless music! A++

[EricTheCarGuy]

@davelowe1977 I hate the music too. Thanks very much for the comment.