Seems to me you could line the interior of the firebox with reflective fiberglass panels and firebrick to A) constrict the size of the opening increasing velocity and B) raise the firebox temp. Problem still is instead of continuous gravity feed and controlled burn, you're feeding by the load, making it flare up and burn out too quickly.
Power a small fan to direct your airflow and produce your desired effect with a turbine exaust power generator which is powered by the rising of air. Like a wind turbine or fan blades. it has to be metal though. This also will give you a chance to power small devices, like alarm clocks. You can put a light manure/hay mix at the very top of the exhaust, filtering the smoke, making it greener.
When it comes to such matters, I am quite the simpleton. Upon listening to the faults explained in the video, it occurred to me that the simple act of insulating the old wood stove may be the solution, Just a thought...
Hello, I have a wood stove in basement of 1.5 story building. I can't figure how to use a rocket stove mass heater with the design of my home but would like to see how to make the hybrid stove. Is it in the book I am ordering? thanks
Perhaps you can point me in the right direction on this one, but I see all these videos and people say how warm they feel with the rocket mass stove and whatnot. I'm interested. But what is warm? Do you have any videos talking about actual temperatures of the room, or how big the room is? Am I able to walk around the room and stay warm or is it just warm around heater? Also, this might be an eye of the beholder thing, but isn't there anyone out there that makes rmh that don't look so rustic?
I mean, couldn't someone use something other than a steel drum? I like the idea of permiculture and upcycling, but I think it would be cool to try and target a wider audience with rmh. Not many people want to have a steel drum in their living room
i made a heater that uses a stirling engine in the fire box to capture some heat to run a fan that forces mass air into the combustion chamber so its about 30+ pis of pressure, it does not rely on the draft system. the pressure output goes into a spiral heat exchangers and the room when its running heates up very very quickly to more then 100+ deg. my system has high performance due to all the surfaces are smooth = little air resistance in/out and wood is suspended while burning underpressure
why not encase all sides and top and bottom in earth mass and then proceed on will earth mass coming out of the barrel.. this has me thinking as i have a double barrel heater in a out door building i building, that pulls cold air from my house and the rising heat come back into the house. it is right next to my house and i could possibly, well let me think a bit on it. any way i could see your stove done this way. dawid Israel
@RonRay: There are definitely drawbacks to incorporating a metal woodstove, especially in terms of efficiency. But there are some practical advantages: more people know how to light it without training, ditto the cooking or cleanout features. And citing the common EPA exemption for 'antique stove' may be easier than educating a local building inspector on mass-based exemptions or getting exemption letters. In short, it adds an element of 'normal' that some people like.
Fantastic upload! I am gaining a better understanding of rocket mass heaters. The book Rocket Mass Heaters By Ianto Evans and Leslie Jackson is very good.
Hey Paul! We need a LOT more videos of the Wisners giving us every scrap of knowledge in their heads, just like this one. Ernie is so articulate (Erika too!). You are making a resource collection that is extremely valuable thru this channel and your other websites. What sets yours apart is the ongoing discussions of what works / what didn't work / what worked for awhile but failed or got revised, and WHY. My deepest appreciation.
I think the only way to incorporate a wood heater with a rocket stove, would be to use the cast iron stove as the heat riser (heat exchanger). But that is what the "mass" does in the first place.
Either way, trying to incorporate a wood stove is just 'backing up': Benjamin Franklin already did it.
maybe you could hook up the rocket mass heater to his unibrow
ChrisW12208 3 days ago
Seems to me you could line the interior of the firebox with reflective fiberglass panels and firebrick to A) constrict the size of the opening increasing velocity and B) raise the firebox temp. Problem still is instead of continuous gravity feed and controlled burn, you're feeding by the load, making it flare up and burn out too quickly.
ZeroFossilFuel 5 days ago
Power a small fan to direct your airflow and produce your desired effect with a turbine exaust power generator which is powered by the rising of air. Like a wind turbine or fan blades. it has to be metal though. This also will give you a chance to power small devices, like alarm clocks. You can put a light manure/hay mix at the very top of the exhaust, filtering the smoke, making it greener.
Jlshepperly 1 week ago
When it comes to such matters, I am quite the simpleton. Upon listening to the faults explained in the video, it occurred to me that the simple act of insulating the old wood stove may be the solution, Just a thought...
snurf727 3 weeks ago
Hello, I have a wood stove in basement of 1.5 story building. I can't figure how to use a rocket stove mass heater with the design of my home but would like to see how to make the hybrid stove. Is it in the book I am ordering? thanks
colleen2480 1 month ago
@colleen2480 head out to the forums at permies.com -we'll get your questions answered there.
paulwheaton12 1 month ago
Perhaps you can point me in the right direction on this one, but I see all these videos and people say how warm they feel with the rocket mass stove and whatnot. I'm interested. But what is warm? Do you have any videos talking about actual temperatures of the room, or how big the room is? Am I able to walk around the room and stay warm or is it just warm around heater? Also, this might be an eye of the beholder thing, but isn't there anyone out there that makes rmh that don't look so rustic?
BaronVonSTFU 1 month ago
I mean, couldn't someone use something other than a steel drum? I like the idea of permiculture and upcycling, but I think it would be cool to try and target a wider audience with rmh. Not many people want to have a steel drum in their living room
BaronVonSTFU 1 month ago
i made a heater that uses a stirling engine in the fire box to capture some heat to run a fan that forces mass air into the combustion chamber so its about 30+ pis of pressure, it does not rely on the draft system. the pressure output goes into a spiral heat exchangers and the room when its running heates up very very quickly to more then 100+ deg. my system has high performance due to all the surfaces are smooth = little air resistance in/out and wood is suspended while burning underpressure
Unguidedone 2 months ago
when using a woodstove in this configuration- without the mass- is the exhaust still hot enough to rise up a conventional chimney?
thanks!
ypres333 2 months ago
Your riser needs to be built from a different material, which will run hotter like 'aluminium'.
MrSchpankme 3 months ago
how does coal or even used tire rubber work in a rocket stove? Should the rocket stove use a square or round vertical flue pipes.
josephdupont 3 months ago
the world needs a lot more people like you...thank you!
popoqwer 4 months ago
why not encase all sides and top and bottom in earth mass and then proceed on will earth mass coming out of the barrel.. this has me thinking as i have a double barrel heater in a out door building i building, that pulls cold air from my house and the rising heat come back into the house. it is right next to my house and i could possibly, well let me think a bit on it. any way i could see your stove done this way. dawid Israel
dnci1414 5 months ago
It's the "burn it" rap! :-)
ahnamay 5 months ago
It's the "burn it" rap! :-)
ahnamay 5 months ago
Awesome video, I was wondering about this. Thanks for posting. As a side note, the sped up video at the end was a little creepy somehow.
Fynmarr 5 months ago
Thank you again, Paul, and Ernie, for the brain food! I was wondering about this.
TheAltheaful 5 months ago
nice unibrow
kryptiea 5 months ago
Thanks, Paul!
@RonRay: There are definitely drawbacks to incorporating a metal woodstove, especially in terms of efficiency. But there are some practical advantages: more people know how to light it without training, ditto the cooking or cleanout features. And citing the common EPA exemption for 'antique stove' may be easier than educating a local building inspector on mass-based exemptions or getting exemption letters. In short, it adds an element of 'normal' that some people like.
EKWisner 5 months ago
What state are you in? Thanks!
spiritartman 5 months ago
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ginofrater 5 months ago
Good info.
SuzyB1988 5 months ago
Fantastic upload! I am gaining a better understanding of rocket mass heaters. The book Rocket Mass Heaters By Ianto Evans and Leslie Jackson is very good.
glockman1727ak47 5 months ago
Very kool.
marthale7 5 months ago
Info like this is a great help... Thanks for posting... More,more
Chris
MrChrisTowerton 5 months ago
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MrSchpankme 5 months ago
Great info! Thanks a lot for sharing.
danman911 5 months ago
Hey Paul! We need a LOT more videos of the Wisners giving us every scrap of knowledge in their heads, just like this one. Ernie is so articulate (Erika too!). You are making a resource collection that is extremely valuable thru this channel and your other websites. What sets yours apart is the ongoing discussions of what works / what didn't work / what worked for awhile but failed or got revised, and WHY. My deepest appreciation.
LibertyBooksAZ 5 months ago 4
I think the only way to incorporate a wood heater with a rocket stove, would be to use the cast iron stove as the heat riser (heat exchanger). But that is what the "mass" does in the first place.
Either way, trying to incorporate a wood stove is just 'backing up': Benjamin Franklin already did it.
RonRay 5 months ago
good upload, thnx
beetelgeuze 5 months ago
I wonder if packing the wood stove in cob might be a shortcut to just making a full on rocket mass heater....
TheDudeRulez09 5 months ago
what happened to his hair?
LightoYagasamiSan 5 months ago 4
Seems like a rouge razor blade got to Ernie somehow.
I'm glad to see this. I was planning on trying this myself later this year. It may be an excellent way to get the rocket tech thru the code process.
string011 5 months ago