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You can see a great deal about how the Mechanism's form and its astronomy relate all the way back to Minoan Cretan times in the Bronze Age at---ANCIENT LIGHTS, in the "Coda" to the new work "CALENDAR HOUSE: Clues to Minoan Time from Knossos Labyrinth," by Jack Dempsey.
I do congratulate the producers, since this video showed us how the greeks count in the reality, in spite of the their problems (bad financial situation
I do congratulate the producers, since this video showed us how the greeks count in the reality, in spite of the their problems (bad financial situation
The only religions intolerant are monotheistic religions.
If the golden age, classical antiquity are still a beacon of civilization, is the state humanity's grace thanks to the pagans.
The monotheistic religions are a form of usurpation of the sense of the sacred, are the same way as ideologies. The pagan religions uniting man with nature
Two things i am confused about: 1. Why is it animated at like one and a half frames per second? 2. Why the hell are people arguing about Christianity? That has nothing to do with anything.
What is the average intelligence of youtube commenters? I think an IQ of about nil, with people of positive IQ making up for those with negative IQ. Bt the way until I started reading some of the comments here I didn't even know there was such a thing as negative IQ.
Every day's a school day!
By the way is the frame rate rather low or do I need a better graphics accelerator card?
Who is making fan of Greece?are you crazy?GREECE IS MY COUNTRY!!!GREECE IS MY LIFE!!!GREECE IS MY WORLD!!!GREECE IS THE LIGHT OF THE WORLD!!!WHO IS MAKING FAN OF GREECE?...ARE YOU IRONIC WITH ME,SMARTY?
The mechanism is the oldest known complex scientific calculator. It contains many gears, and is regarded essentially as an analog computer. It appears to be constructed upon theories of astronomy and mathematics developed by Greek astronomers and it is estimated that it was made around 150 to 100 BC. The circumstances under which it came to be on the cargo ship are unclear.
The findings suggest that Greek technology was far more advanced than previously thought. No other civilization is known to have created anything as complicated for another thousand years.
The civilization of THE GREEKS IT'S NOT ONLY WESTERN!!!IS GLOBAL!!!!YOU ALL LEARNING IN SCHOOLS THE GREEK MATHEMATICS,THE GREEK MEDICINE,THE GREEK ASTRONOMY!THE GREEK GREEK ETHICS,GREEK POLITICS,PHILOSOPHY,YOU HAVE THE GREEK OLYMPICS,MOTHERS DAY,GREEK LANGUAGE TERMS IN EVERYTHING!!!
Only 3%OF THE Greek knowledge SURVIVED!!STILL WAS ENOUGH to educate the world!!!The burning of the GREEK ALEXANDRIAN LIBRARY,DESTROYED almost all THE GREEK BOOKS!!!THERE WERE THE BOOKS of Eratosthenis,Apollonius of Rhodes,Aristophanes of byzantium,Aristarchus of samothrace,Homeric texts,Aeschylus Sophocles,Euripides,and thousands more!!!
GIVE ME THE NAME OF THE AUTHORS and the BOOKS!!!,,,HOW DO YOU KNOW THAT THIS EGYPTIAN DID NOT TAKE IT FROM THE GREEKS?...FROM AKTIS,HERMES TRISMEGISTOS,and more!!!IT'S VERY FANNY THAT NOBODY GIVES ME ANY NAMES OF MATHEMATICIANS NOT THE EGYPTIANS,NOT THE INDIANS,NOT THE BABYLONIANS NOT THE PERSIANS!!!Only i give you the names of the GREEK ONES!!!
WHAT IS THE MATTER?THE ONLY THING you know to say is that the Greeks learn from you,and you don't tell us from whom?WHAT HAPPENED?ARE YOU FANTASIZING THINGS?
Take a chill pill man, i recognise the greek achievement more than anything but they are not the cradle of civilisation, they are the cradle of 'western' civilisation, which is the best. but you totally disregard some of the achievements of other cultures due to your blind nationalism.
DO NOT Include The F word and us christians in the same sentence. You want to hate us, go find a corner so that the world cannot hear your unintelligent insults.
'know about the bibles that come with the Egyptians Calendars.' that's because most of the events occur close to egypt in those days.
Dude i don't care if it's greeks or egyptians this is youtube, not a place where you throw groundless insults to Chrisitans. You hate us, hit the 'X' and find another website.
If you want to be protected from all criticism of your absurd superstitious beliefs go find sanctuary in a church. This is real life, you don't run things here or make the rules. Not any longer. Get used to it. Without your oppressive mind-denying religion we might today be living on the moons of Jupiter. We are never going to go back to the dark ages again when religion ruled and demanded respect and ruled by fear.
ladies and gentlemen here's another example of a childish comment that doesn't serve an intelligent purpose whatsoever. The world would be a lot better without such foolish disrespectful people.
it's funny how you can say 'no one reads this' yet you post this comment attempting to rebut me. Aren't you talking to yourself? Aren't you wasting your time posting if you know no one will read the comments?
Wow I am amazed at your hypocrisy. You tell me i'm talking to myself, yet you read the comments and respond to them!
So you say standing up for what i believe and fighting back is petty? Well if you believe that then you're a weak man; people make fun or insult you and you let them do it. Well done pal....
Blah blah blah. Fucking christians man, no wonder the Romans fed them to the lions. Shouldn't you be lecturing some AIDS infected Africans or impressionable children about how condoms don't work? Or maybe killing off the native population of the Americas? Or maybe helping the Nazis kill Jews?
Dude I am intrigued at your woeful ignorance, because you simply don't know what the hell you are talking about. Haha and your immaturity is entertaining indeed! Go read up on christian humanitarian and mission works before you start blabbering. You're just being a hypocrite again.
And you're just stupid for not realizing we Christians are not advocates of murder or killing like you are. In fact people like you are being killed more often then us, fool.
Oh I see, feeding a few people makes up for things like the crusades, destruction of Greek and Roman temples and outlawing of their religions, burning the Library of Alexandria and flaying to death it's female curator, the pogroms against Jews for 2 thousand years in addition to what I mentioned before, at least in your mind. Got it dude. Fucking christians man... And you wonder why you're hemorrhaging members.
Protip: You may want to look up the definition of hypocrite, kikikik.
And it's like as if thousands of years of mankind hasn't done similar things, dude you have got to learn to look at other religions, beliefs and even atheists before you start looking like a fool cursing and disrespecting other people. Not to mention sounding like an immature kid.
And mind you dude, we may be hemorrhaging members at your side of the world, but we're winning over here.
Protip: You ARE a hypocrite. You curse one religion without realizing you deserved to be cursed as well.
Neither have you earned or deserved any respect, thats why i am here to make sure you know you have no right to even start your childish swears.
And I'm not only localizing to Singapore, I'm talking about Asia as a whole. And apparrently you don't know a thing about my country: it is advancing fast economically and technologically.
Atheism never killed anybody. Religion, tyrannical wackjobs, and authoritarian regimes have killed a great many people, but the lack of a belief in a god or gods has never taken so much as one human life.
Atheism NEVER killed anybody? it is the reason why tyrannical wackjobs and authoritarian regimes came to play. The very belief that there is no god simply can make one think he can be god, and there is no limit to the extent of a genocide.
That's right, atheism never killed anybody. You can try to blame the French Revolution, Stalin, Mao, Pol Pot, and Kim Jung Il on atheism if you want (many have tried) , but more educated heads always prevail. These regimes were enabled by cults of personality, land grabbing, political ideology. NOT believing in god may have been an occasional scapegoat, but it was never the true cause.
People only think that because of the McCarthy era, "atheism is the root of all evil" campaign.
being too rational is one thing, but that doesn't mean an absolute statement can be made.
Atheism partly incalcates the belief in the laws of evolution and natural selection, the science of things that is logical. That very belief that no one is looking over them may have sparked that cult of personality and political ideology.
Religion has 2 parts to its nature; being conservative and radical. You can't blame all religion for genocide because many (like christianity
or islam) Conservatively speaking, religion NEVER allowed genocide, or any other ethically wrong doings for that matter. Its only when cults of personality influence people to a new way of ideology and thinking that society starts to change (for better or worse)
If you say atheism never killed anyone because only cults of personality, land grabbing, political ideology does that, then religion never killed anyone as well.
I can think of exactly ONE occasion where religion was the scapegoat, and cult of personality was the true motive: Jonestown.
For the last two thousand years, not five minutes have gone by without somebody killing in god's name. Call it what you will, a holy war, a crusade, a jihad, etc.
When religious people try to blame atrocities on atheism, it ends up sounding pathetic, like they are just trying to point fingers at someone, ANYONE else..."look! that killer was ATHEIST! AREN'T THEY EVIL!!!
You say, "Conservatively speaking, religion NEVER allowed genocide, or any other ethically wrong doings for that matter."
This is patently false. This is evidenced by several well known atrocities which were PROUDLY fueled by religious fervor. It seems as if you are trying to reciprocate what I said Atheism, but when you try to replace atheism with religion, the statement becomes laughable. Example: I can name 2,973 people murdered in 1 day solely for religion, about ten years ago in NYC.
because greek writing survived in the libraries, writing to the egyptians was something maintained by the priestly castes, yet there is evidence such as numerous papyrus fragments near temples that have survived and are held in museums, such as 'berlin papyrus 6119', no doubt the persian occupation would have destroyed much of egyptian writings in their entire form. Yet, the greeks after alexander had the advantage of having libraries in every major city.
"Darius followed the example of Cyrus in respecting native religious institutions. In Egypt he assumed an Egyptian titulary and gave active support to the cult. He built a temple to the god Amon in the Kharga oasis, endowed the temple at Edfu, and carried out restoration work in other sanctuaries..."
"...He empowered the Egyptians to reestablish the medical school of the temple of Sais, and he ordered his satrap to codify the Egyptian laws in consultation with the native priests. In the Egyptian traditions he was considered as one of the great lawgivers and benefactors of the country. "
STOP YOUR LIES!!!YOU ARE NOT GIVING ME THE NAMES OF THE BOOKS,or the authors ,because there are not any!!!I could say that, i was taught by aliens but i have not proof!!!WOULD YOU EVER BELIEVE ME?WOULD THAT BE TRUE!!!OF COURSE NOT!!!THESE ARE ONLY LIES OF HERODOTUS!!!
Why do you find it so hard to believe that though Pythagoras already knew maths, he also studied it in egypt, theres even something called 'berlin papyrus 6119' held in berlin museum that shows egyptians solving a mathematical problem using technique similar to pythagoras theorem before he discovered/formalised it.
Thats highly plausibe, there are tribes in west africa that say they origiante from an island thousands of years ago that sank, but who knows if its atlantis or just some island.
In your dreams novelenterprise!!!can you show as the documents,and the works of the EGYPTIANS,from where supposedly the GREEKS took their knowledge?...I AM SURE YOU WILL NOT FIND ANY!!!!!
Most ancient greek knowledge is homegrown but the ancient minoans who in turned were influential to the mycenean greeks only began their civilisation after contact with the egyptians. Also the greek mathematician Pythagoras travelled to egypt to learn maths from the egyptian priests.
FROM WHICH EGYPTIAN PRIEST DID HE LEARN MATH?Name him!!!Name his works,show me the books!!!Name these books!!!I DARE YOU!!!ENOUGH OF THE LIES!!!HE DID NOT STUDY ANY PRIESTS !!!!STOP THE DISTORTION NOW!!!
Sure thing Nixter, the book is Herodotus histories, theres a part that mentions about the tyrant Thales who recognised Pythagoras skill and sent him to Egypt. I'm not saying the egyptians taught him maths, he already new it but they taught him other maths techniques.
KEEP YOUR HAIR ON! just kidding, but lay of the CAPS its not necessary, we are civilised men here. Like the Greeks. Herodotus doesnt mention the priest by name but he mentions that Thales had lots of contacts with the egyptian priests as they had mutual enemies, the persians, i dont want to be doing youre homework but herodotus mentions thales sending pythagoras to egypt in the early part of his history book because he was impressed with pythagoras skill and wanted him to learn more.
so nixter, i've read herodotus histories already and i'm not gonna be digging it up again on youre behalf. You should read it yourself, its a good read though but i must admit mate, some of what herodotus says is to be taken with a pinch of salt. Yet, his work was written for an audience of his time - the ancient greeks! And he was one of them!
You mast be crazy saying they got all these from the EGYPTIANS!DO THE EGYPTIANS HAVE A COMPUTER?DID anybody ever found an EGYPTIAN BOOK? FROM WITCH EGYPTIAN WORKS DID THEY EVER GOT ALL THESE?DO YOU HAVE ANY IDEA?IN THE CONTRARY!HERMES TRISMEGISTOS,AKTIS ORPHEUS they gave knowledge to the Egyptians before the flood thousands of years ago!
*Note, Latitude is easilly found by the angle of the North star in the sky. Imagine the value such a tool would represent to competing traders on ocean routes. This would have been a state secret, hidden from common knowledge. They knew the Earth was a shpere, and even had a coodinate system devised for navigation. Its a fascniting puzzle to try to solve, Long =? via astro, or via clock. See Desolla Price, and Christian Huygens.
After years of research, i have come to feel this device was a navigation aid for ships. Specifically designed to derive longitude from astronomical observation. Cronometers were first used in the modern age for that purpose, as were tried but could design an astronomical way for determining longitude.
i cant believe that greeks descover this so many years ago i am astronomist from russia and its the most impresive think that i ever see in ancient history
It was made propably by Ipparhos ih Rhodes Island of Greece. It was made about 100 B.C. there was a massive production of these navigation machanisms. If you wish i could provide you more recent info.
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I do congratulate the producers, since this video showed us how the greeks count in the reality, in spite of the their problems (bad financial situation
gianakis77 1 year ago
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gianakis77 1 year ago
The only religions intolerant are monotheistic religions.
If the golden age, classical antiquity are still a beacon of civilization, is the state humanity's grace thanks to the pagans.
The monotheistic religions are a form of usurpation of the sense of the sacred, are the same way as ideologies. The pagan religions uniting man with nature
xxxanarcosxxx 1 year ago
Two things i am confused about: 1. Why is it animated at like one and a half frames per second? 2. Why the hell are people arguing about Christianity? That has nothing to do with anything.
systmh 2 years ago
I like the song, does anyone know the name/artist of the song...?
soskey 2 years ago
THANK YOU SO MUCH!!! im using this for a social project and i was so worried i wasn't going to be able to to do it. THANX FOR POSTING.
TheEverChance 2 years ago 5
Mad graphics XD
papalevies 3 years ago 2
What is the average intelligence of youtube commenters? I think an IQ of about nil, with people of positive IQ making up for those with negative IQ. Bt the way until I started reading some of the comments here I didn't even know there was such a thing as negative IQ.
Every day's a school day!
By the way is the frame rate rather low or do I need a better graphics accelerator card?
Hewpie 3 years ago
nixter888: GREECE IS TEH GREATESt CouNTRY in THE worLD!! WE INvented ALL knowledGE!!!!
BVargas78: Whoa, I'm not making fun of Greece-
nixter888: HOW DARE YOU MOCK GREECE!! STOP SREADING YOUR LIES!!! OMFG!! I caNNot HolD A ConvERSAtion WitHouT All TEH CAPS ON!!!
BVargas78: ... umm what?
nixter888: YOU WILL BURN for YOUR MAKInG FUN of the GLORIouS Naton OF GREECE!!
inklohea 3 years ago 2
Who is making fan of Greece?are you crazy?GREECE IS MY COUNTRY!!!GREECE IS MY LIFE!!!GREECE IS MY WORLD!!!GREECE IS THE LIGHT OF THE WORLD!!!WHO IS MAKING FAN OF GREECE?...ARE YOU IRONIC WITH ME,SMARTY?
nixter888 3 years ago
I am making FAN of greece there buddy, oh, and I thought that Turkey was the light of the world. hmm
inklohea 3 years ago
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dimthelight 3 years ago
The mechanism is the oldest known complex scientific calculator. It contains many gears, and is regarded essentially as an analog computer. It appears to be constructed upon theories of astronomy and mathematics developed by Greek astronomers and it is estimated that it was made around 150 to 100 BC. The circumstances under which it came to be on the cargo ship are unclear.
nixter888 3 years ago
The findings suggest that Greek technology was far more advanced than previously thought. No other civilization is known to have created anything as complicated for another thousand years.
nixter888 3 years ago
The chill pill is for you to take ,and put some sense in your head!!!
nixter888 3 years ago
TELL ME THE NAMES OF THE BOOKS THEY WERE DESTROYED!!!Give me the names of the scholars!!!give me the names of your scientists!!!
nixter888 3 years ago
The civilization of THE GREEKS IT'S NOT ONLY WESTERN!!!IS GLOBAL!!!!YOU ALL LEARNING IN SCHOOLS THE GREEK MATHEMATICS,THE GREEK MEDICINE,THE GREEK ASTRONOMY!THE GREEK GREEK ETHICS,GREEK POLITICS,PHILOSOPHY,YOU HAVE THE GREEK OLYMPICS,MOTHERS DAY,GREEK LANGUAGE TERMS IN EVERYTHING!!!
nixter888 3 years ago
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dimthelight 3 years ago
Only 3%OF THE Greek knowledge SURVIVED!!STILL WAS ENOUGH to educate the world!!!The burning of the GREEK ALEXANDRIAN LIBRARY,DESTROYED almost all THE GREEK BOOKS!!!THERE WERE THE BOOKS of Eratosthenis,Apollonius of Rhodes,Aristophanes of byzantium,Aristarchus of samothrace,Homeric texts,Aeschylus Sophocles,Euripides,and thousands more!!!
nixter888 3 years ago
GIVE ME THE NAME OF THE AUTHORS and the BOOKS!!!,,,HOW DO YOU KNOW THAT THIS EGYPTIAN DID NOT TAKE IT FROM THE GREEKS?...FROM AKTIS,HERMES TRISMEGISTOS,and more!!!IT'S VERY FANNY THAT NOBODY GIVES ME ANY NAMES OF MATHEMATICIANS NOT THE EGYPTIANS,NOT THE INDIANS,NOT THE BABYLONIANS NOT THE PERSIANS!!!Only i give you the names of the GREEK ONES!!!
nixter888 3 years ago
WHAT IS THE MATTER?THE ONLY THING you know to say is that the Greeks learn from you,and you don't tell us from whom?WHAT HAPPENED?ARE YOU FANTASIZING THINGS?
nixter888 3 years ago
Take a chill pill man, i recognise the greek achievement more than anything but they are not the cradle of civilisation, they are the cradle of 'western' civilisation, which is the best. but you totally disregard some of the achievements of other cultures due to your blind nationalism.
BVargas78 3 years ago
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dimthelight 3 years ago
Close your mouth now!!!ENJOY THE GREATNESS OF THE THE GREEKS!!!THE TEACHERS OF THE WORLD!!!
nixter888 3 years ago
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dimthelight 3 years ago
DO NOT Include The F word and us christians in the same sentence. You want to hate us, go find a corner so that the world cannot hear your unintelligent insults.
Eagle90 3 years ago
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dimthelight 3 years ago
Dimthelight you show the signs of 100% stupidity
so i'll just say you= dimwitted commentator.
Eagle90 3 years ago
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dimthelight 3 years ago
'know about the bibles that come with the Egyptians Calendars.' that's because most of the events occur close to egypt in those days.
Dude i don't care if it's greeks or egyptians this is youtube, not a place where you throw groundless insults to Chrisitans. You hate us, hit the 'X' and find another website.
Eagle90 3 years ago
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dimthelight 3 years ago
If you want to be protected from all criticism of your absurd superstitious beliefs go find sanctuary in a church. This is real life, you don't run things here or make the rules. Not any longer. Get used to it. Without your oppressive mind-denying religion we might today be living on the moons of Jupiter. We are never going to go back to the dark ages again when religion ruled and demanded respect and ruled by fear.
MartinJWillett 2 years ago
What you mean like fucking christians?
studio7manga 2 years ago
ladies and gentlemen here's another example of a childish comment that doesn't serve an intelligent purpose whatsoever. The world would be a lot better without such foolish disrespectful people.
Eagle90 2 years ago
No one reads these, you're just talking to yourself. Also, if you're going to attack someone's intelligence it would help to use proper punctuation.
studio7manga 2 years ago
it's funny how you can say 'no one reads this' yet you post this comment attempting to rebut me. Aren't you talking to yourself? Aren't you wasting your time posting if you know no one will read the comments?
Eagle90 2 years ago
I'm talking to you, and no your petty indignation amuses me.
studio7manga 2 years ago
Wow I am amazed at your hypocrisy. You tell me i'm talking to myself, yet you read the comments and respond to them!
So you say standing up for what i believe and fighting back is petty? Well if you believe that then you're a weak man; people make fun or insult you and you let them do it. Well done pal....
Eagle90 2 years ago
Blah blah blah. Fucking christians man, no wonder the Romans fed them to the lions. Shouldn't you be lecturing some AIDS infected Africans or impressionable children about how condoms don't work? Or maybe killing off the native population of the Americas? Or maybe helping the Nazis kill Jews?
studio7manga 2 years ago
Dude I am intrigued at your woeful ignorance, because you simply don't know what the hell you are talking about. Haha and your immaturity is entertaining indeed! Go read up on christian humanitarian and mission works before you start blabbering. You're just being a hypocrite again.
And you're just stupid for not realizing we Christians are not advocates of murder or killing like you are. In fact people like you are being killed more often then us, fool.
Eagle90 2 years ago
Oh I see, feeding a few people makes up for things like the crusades, destruction of Greek and Roman temples and outlawing of their religions, burning the Library of Alexandria and flaying to death it's female curator, the pogroms against Jews for 2 thousand years in addition to what I mentioned before, at least in your mind. Got it dude. Fucking christians man... And you wonder why you're hemorrhaging members.
Protip: You may want to look up the definition of hypocrite, kikikik.
studio7manga 2 years ago
And it's like as if thousands of years of mankind hasn't done similar things, dude you have got to learn to look at other religions, beliefs and even atheists before you start looking like a fool cursing and disrespecting other people. Not to mention sounding like an immature kid.
And mind you dude, we may be hemorrhaging members at your side of the world, but we're winning over here.
Protip: You ARE a hypocrite. You curse one religion without realizing you deserved to be cursed as well.
Eagle90 2 years ago
You deserve no respect, respect is something that is earned, and you haven't earned it.
Singapore isn't that big, globally it's a downward spiral and for good reason.
That's not what a hypocrite is.
studio7manga 2 years ago
Neither have you earned or deserved any respect, thats why i am here to make sure you know you have no right to even start your childish swears.
And I'm not only localizing to Singapore, I'm talking about Asia as a whole. And apparrently you don't know a thing about my country: it is advancing fast economically and technologically.
You are a good example of a hypocrite.
Eagle90 2 years ago
Fucking christians. I have every right to speak what I feel, I don't live in a repressive police state like you do.
Singapore is the size of a medium sized city in the US or China, small potatoes.
studio7manga 2 years ago
That's why i have the every equal right to tell you off and offend you.
My country's not repressed, it's secure so that there won't be troublemakers like you running about.
Small potatoes? You don't even know that our strength is in how we work and operate dude, not how many of us.
Eagle90 2 years ago
Atheism never killed anybody. Religion, tyrannical wackjobs, and authoritarian regimes have killed a great many people, but the lack of a belief in a god or gods has never taken so much as one human life.
separatethread 1 year ago
Atheism NEVER killed anybody? it is the reason why tyrannical wackjobs and authoritarian regimes came to play. The very belief that there is no god simply can make one think he can be god, and there is no limit to the extent of a genocide.
Eagle90 1 year ago
That's right, atheism never killed anybody. You can try to blame the French Revolution, Stalin, Mao, Pol Pot, and Kim Jung Il on atheism if you want (many have tried) , but more educated heads always prevail. These regimes were enabled by cults of personality, land grabbing, political ideology. NOT believing in god may have been an occasional scapegoat, but it was never the true cause.
People only think that because of the McCarthy era, "atheism is the root of all evil" campaign.
separatethread 1 year ago
Simply put, no society has ever suffered for being too rational.
Nobody has ever killed, or been killed for what they DON'T believe. It's what people DO believe that turns them to murderers.
separatethread 1 year ago
being too rational is one thing, but that doesn't mean an absolute statement can be made.
Atheism partly incalcates the belief in the laws of evolution and natural selection, the science of things that is logical. That very belief that no one is looking over them may have sparked that cult of personality and political ideology.
Religion has 2 parts to its nature; being conservative and radical. You can't blame all religion for genocide because many (like christianity
Eagle90 1 year ago
or islam) Conservatively speaking, religion NEVER allowed genocide, or any other ethically wrong doings for that matter. Its only when cults of personality influence people to a new way of ideology and thinking that society starts to change (for better or worse)
If you say atheism never killed anyone because only cults of personality, land grabbing, political ideology does that, then religion never killed anyone as well.
Eagle90 1 year ago
I can think of exactly ONE occasion where religion was the scapegoat, and cult of personality was the true motive: Jonestown.
For the last two thousand years, not five minutes have gone by without somebody killing in god's name. Call it what you will, a holy war, a crusade, a jihad, etc.
When religious people try to blame atrocities on atheism, it ends up sounding pathetic, like they are just trying to point fingers at someone, ANYONE else..."look! that killer was ATHEIST! AREN'T THEY EVIL!!!
separatethread 1 year ago
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You say, "Conservatively speaking, religion NEVER allowed genocide, or any other ethically wrong doings for that matter."
This is patently false. This is evidenced by several well known atrocities which were PROUDLY fueled by religious fervor. It seems as if you are trying to reciprocate what I said Atheism, but when you try to replace atheism with religion, the statement becomes laughable. Example: I can name 2,973 people murdered in 1 day solely for religion, about ten years ago in NYC.
separatethread 1 year ago
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@separatethread you should read a bit about the dark arges...
EmeraldCityMMJ 8 months ago
because greek writing survived in the libraries, writing to the egyptians was something maintained by the priestly castes, yet there is evidence such as numerous papyrus fragments near temples that have survived and are held in museums, such as 'berlin papyrus 6119', no doubt the persian occupation would have destroyed much of egyptian writings in their entire form. Yet, the greeks after alexander had the advantage of having libraries in every major city.
BVargas78 3 years ago
"Darius followed the example of Cyrus in respecting native religious institutions. In Egypt he assumed an Egyptian titulary and gave active support to the cult. He built a temple to the god Amon in the Kharga oasis, endowed the temple at Edfu, and carried out restoration work in other sanctuaries..."
surenashir 3 years ago
"...He empowered the Egyptians to reestablish the medical school of the temple of Sais, and he ordered his satrap to codify the Egyptian laws in consultation with the native priests. In the Egyptian traditions he was considered as one of the great lawgivers and benefactors of the country. "
What the hell are you talking about BVargas78?!
surenashir 3 years ago
STOP YOUR LIES!!!YOU ARE NOT GIVING ME THE NAMES OF THE BOOKS,or the authors ,because there are not any!!!I could say that, i was taught by aliens but i have not proof!!!WOULD YOU EVER BELIEVE ME?WOULD THAT BE TRUE!!!OF COURSE NOT!!!THESE ARE ONLY LIES OF HERODOTUS!!!
nixter888 3 years ago
Why do you find it so hard to believe that though Pythagoras already knew maths, he also studied it in egypt, theres even something called 'berlin papyrus 6119' held in berlin museum that shows egyptians solving a mathematical problem using technique similar to pythagoras theorem before he discovered/formalised it.
BVargas78 3 years ago
Greeks invented philosophy,alchemy,musical keyboard instrument,pnumonics,algebra,and many amazing things.
Anomlies 4 years ago 2
actually they got most of it from the egyptians.
novelenterprise 4 years ago 2
Hey, what aboout the Atlantis, may be egyptians once were under influence of that lost civilion?
Anomlies 4 years ago
Thats highly plausibe, there are tribes in west africa that say they origiante from an island thousands of years ago that sank, but who knows if its atlantis or just some island.
novelenterprise 4 years ago
In your dreams novelenterprise!!!can you show as the documents,and the works of the EGYPTIANS,from where supposedly the GREEKS took their knowledge?...I AM SURE YOU WILL NOT FIND ANY!!!!!
nixter888 3 years ago 7
Most ancient greek knowledge is homegrown but the ancient minoans who in turned were influential to the mycenean greeks only began their civilisation after contact with the egyptians. Also the greek mathematician Pythagoras travelled to egypt to learn maths from the egyptian priests.
BVargas78 3 years ago
FROM WHICH EGYPTIAN PRIEST DID HE LEARN MATH?Name him!!!Name his works,show me the books!!!Name these books!!!I DARE YOU!!!ENOUGH OF THE LIES!!!HE DID NOT STUDY ANY PRIESTS !!!!STOP THE DISTORTION NOW!!!
nixter888 3 years ago
Sure thing Nixter, the book is Herodotus histories, theres a part that mentions about the tyrant Thales who recognised Pythagoras skill and sent him to Egypt. I'm not saying the egyptians taught him maths, he already new it but they taught him other maths techniques.
BVargas78 3 years ago
LIKE WHAT?and who taught him!!!Give me names,and exactly what they taught him!!!
nixter888 3 years ago
KEEP YOUR HAIR ON! just kidding, but lay of the CAPS its not necessary, we are civilised men here. Like the Greeks. Herodotus doesnt mention the priest by name but he mentions that Thales had lots of contacts with the egyptian priests as they had mutual enemies, the persians, i dont want to be doing youre homework but herodotus mentions thales sending pythagoras to egypt in the early part of his history book because he was impressed with pythagoras skill and wanted him to learn more.
BVargas78 3 years ago
so nixter, i've read herodotus histories already and i'm not gonna be digging it up again on youre behalf. You should read it yourself, its a good read though but i must admit mate, some of what herodotus says is to be taken with a pinch of salt. Yet, his work was written for an audience of his time - the ancient greeks! And he was one of them!
BVargas78 3 years ago
You mast be crazy saying they got all these from the EGYPTIANS!DO THE EGYPTIANS HAVE A COMPUTER?DID anybody ever found an EGYPTIAN BOOK? FROM WITCH EGYPTIAN WORKS DID THEY EVER GOT ALL THESE?DO YOU HAVE ANY IDEA?IN THE CONTRARY!HERMES TRISMEGISTOS,AKTIS ORPHEUS they gave knowledge to the Egyptians before the flood thousands of years ago!
nixter888 3 years ago
muy intresante este mecanismo
eldragonsd 4 years ago
*Note, Latitude is easilly found by the angle of the North star in the sky. Imagine the value such a tool would represent to competing traders on ocean routes. This would have been a state secret, hidden from common knowledge. They knew the Earth was a shpere, and even had a coodinate system devised for navigation. Its a fascniting puzzle to try to solve, Long =? via astro, or via clock. See Desolla Price, and Christian Huygens.
seneca67 4 years ago
After years of research, i have come to feel this device was a navigation aid for ships. Specifically designed to derive longitude from astronomical observation. Cronometers were first used in the modern age for that purpose, as were tried but could design an astronomical way for determining longitude.
seneca67 4 years ago
nowi done do what i heard once, but this twernt the damn finest thing in all get out ancient whoever i even done seen tell you what (spit)
FutureLaugh 4 years ago
i cant believe that greeks descover this so many years ago i am astronomist from russia and its the most impresive think that i ever see in ancient history
akisPROS 5 years ago
It was made propably by Ipparhos ih Rhodes Island of Greece. It was made about 100 B.C. there was a massive production of these navigation machanisms. If you wish i could provide you more recent info.
tourbox1 3 years ago
2,000 years ago, they say. Incredible!
Sokadesu 5 years ago
Why does this look so choppy? The .mov I uploaded from the University is smooth.
brainshrub 5 years ago
Because the ancient greeks hadn't perfected web movies yet? :-)
TomMinderson 5 years ago 2