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  • That's terrible... they added flatulent sound effects.. yikes..

  • Whatever heinous crime people are convicted off the death-sentence does NOT act as a deterrent.And how people can sit in witness of another human's execution defies logic! But no doubt I'll be considered a 'bleeding heart liberal' by some! Legalised murder acts only as revenge,it rarely serves justice!

  • @popazz1 I would definitely disagree with you there. I think the idea of being executed does indeed deter crimes, it's just that our legal system allows for so many appeals and so much coddling of the criminal that few criminals think it will ever happen to them. Richard Davis, the man who kidnapped and brutally murdered Polly Klaas is in a California "prison" and is allowed to eat nice meals, watch cable TV and even get on the internet and mess with kids. If--cont

  • @popazz1 if he thought that what he was doing could really land him in an electric chair or a gas chamber, I think he would have reconsidered his decision. I personally would never want to be placed in a chair and have either my lungs burned out by gas, or my brain by electricity, and I doubt criminals do either.. I am divided on the need for execution, but it would deter crime, if we used it as much as we threatened to.

  • @apologeticsman ,

    It is just barbarism.We fail society every time we execute someone as it states quite clearly,(to me),that we just don't know what else to do.I do agree when you say it may deter some people.However,for those with determination I suspect the possibility they may be executed doesn't factor into their criminal behaviour.And if,as you say,it was used as often as it's threatened,then at which point do the law-makers decide to include other crimes punishable by execution?!

  • @popazz1 We do know what to do-we remove them as a threat from society. Law-makers, and ultimately 'the people', decide to make violent crime or treason punishable by execution. That's clear. And I know the death penalty is a deterent, as there are so many appeals from those awaiting death. These are cowards. Standard procedure should be to sentence murderers to the ultimate penalty, and only then allow it to be lowered to life w/o parole IF the victims family wants that, otherwise, euthanize.

  • @edwardlangbein ,

    Yeah,we satisfy ourselves by calling it 'euthenasia',right! It's murder,legal or not.If we spent as much time and money finding alternative solutions rather than simply gassing/electrocuting or the so-called 'humane' form of execution,lethal injection,then maybe,just maybe we'd be better for it.But I wouldn't presume to have the answers,just throwing ideas out there.

  • @popazz1 The majority think differently. It is euthenasia, not murder, any more than killing in self-defence is murder. That word is used for emotional effect. There are no other solutions, a child rapist will always be one, a murderer will never develope morals. I believe we would be worse if we stopped euthanizing these criminals. The human race will never evolve if we continue to classify these lower-then-animal life forms as human beings. Humans must act like it. Appeals make justice expensi

  • @edwardlangbein ,

    Ok,well I'd like to know what research you've done for you to state that 'the majority think differently'.Or maybe you are speaking anecdotedly? And,when you say there are 'no other solution',do you not think that perhaps we still just don't do enough to try to seek other solutions? Surely this eagerness to simply dispose of other humans,regardless of their heinous acts only serves to 'satisfy' the publics' demand for 'an eye for an eye' response?! I sense we will not agree.

  • @popazz1 sdf

  • @popazz1 Apparently you cannot post internet addresses, so let me work around this. The "research" was done at New York States University system (New York is liberal to the point of being red). Try this:

    albany.edu (backslash) sourcebook (backslash) pdf (backslash) t200372010.pdf

    America is not England popazz1, our politicians, our police, and our criminals take everything to extremes, and it gets worse each year.

  • While your belief is an honorable one, I think of it as one reached through emotion. We all die, some of us chose through our actions to accelerate that date. For those on death row(ie, they've committed multiple or especially cruel murder), I do not see them as "human beings" as you do. My standards are not met by anyone who would torture or kill children. They should be disposed of without taking joy in it.

  • @edwardlangbein ,

    Sorry,I don't know what 'sdf' means so I can't respond to that.2ndly,I take it by using the term 'red' you suggest NY is almost communist?! I have no experience of NY's 'liberal' politics,maybe I should read up on it.You're right,in that America isn't England,lol.Yet almost daily the 'cry' is,"England's getting more like America every day". I shudder to think! I consider though that these crimes are committed by humans,it's their CRIME which is inhuman.Enjoy your weekend.

  • @popazz1 Cheers!

  • @popazz1 

  • where oh where can i see this ghastly film?????

  • Miss Wagner gave a good performance, but no match for Edythe Marrener (sp?)---Susan Hayward to you.

  • Lindsay Lohan may end up in this unfortunate situation if she doesn't change her ways soon!

  • @CondemnedGirl

    Unfortunately, they use lethal injection now so Lindsay Lohan will get off too easy,.

  • @BoyILoveTV Yes that's all too true, regrettably. They've even taken the chairs out of San Quentin's legendary death chamber. But they just might have to bring back that fearsome method of execution - I figure Lindsay has probably built up immunity to every drug that exists!

  • No blind fold? They changed history.

  • Actually she had a blindfold. Anyway, it must be horrible and painful death.

  • What a waste of good pussy.

  • If you listen closely, she farts while she's being gassed. Which gas gets her? Can you imagine how miserable it would be if your last breath was a fart?  As I am sure she struggled violently with all her desperate strength, plus she was being killed (ie, her muscles were being relaxed) I am sure she pinched more than a fart. To be honest, I have seen my girlfriends face in the car to be similar to this (initial look of panic, eyes bulging, then head back, grimacing, struggling to hold breath)

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  • That gas doesn't sound healthy...

  • They said that Barbara replied "How the hell would you know" instead. The capt. being 84 years old at one point in time remembers this conversation and he said "What could I say? She was right" ...So sad:(

  • On June 3, 1955, she was scheduled to be executed at 10:00 a.m., but that was stayed until 10:45 a.m. At 10:43 a.m., the execution was stayed again until 11:30 a.m., and a weary Graham protested, "Why do they torture me? I was ready to go at ten o'clock."[5] At 11:28 a.m., Graham was led from her cell to be strapped in the gas chamber. There, she requested a blindfold so she wouldn't have to look at the observers. Her last words were "Good people are always so sure they're right."[6]--Wikipedia

  • I wish this clip was longer. I would like to have heard:

    San Quentin Capt.: [whispers] "When you hear the pellets drop, count to ten. Take a deep breath. It's easier that way."

    Barbara Graham: "How would you know?"

  • @stevenscottoddballz ...They didn't exactly say the same thing on this one here. On this movie the capt. just said "Take deep breaths, it's easier" and she still replies "How would you know" This movie was nothing like the one from 1958. It was still good and interesting but NOTHING like the other. They hardly explained anything in this one, it surprised me. Susan Hayward is absolutely incredible. And I love the 80's, so it really did surprise me.

  • @Redheadedhoni

    So, I want to find the 1958 version with Susan Hayward, if I want to get the full details of why she was sent to the gas chamber.

  • @stevenscottoddballz there are two sources: Look under the Wikipedia article on Barbara Graham, the first source is "Barbara Graham-The True Story" by Clark Howard, and under the bibliography there is a link to reporter Gene Burke of the L.A. Times who wrote the article in 1958: "Barbara Graham-Fact and Fiction" Mr.Burke died a few years ago; he was the crime reporter for the L.A. Times for over 35 years and covered the trial first hand.

  • i wonder if the other 2 were executed together (SQ's gas chamber had 2 seats in it)

  • @Disneydanny Yes, Jack Santo and Emmett Perkins died together. I think Barbara went first.. I read somewhere that the two men were held in the regular maximum-security part of the prison, rather than in the two condemned cells adjacent to the gas chamber, and Barbara waited in one of the condemned cells.

  • Who was Barbara Graham,and what did she do? Never heard of her.

  • @HUSKY57887 Barbara Graham was convicted, along with 3 other men, for her part in robbing and killing an elderly widow in her home. One of the other defendants testified against the other three for immunity, and the 3 were subsequently sent to the gas chamber.

  • Lindsay has more than proved her ability as both an actress and a human being.She has earned her title as queen of the tv movies.and most of the films she has chosen throughout her career have had a message in them.THE BIONIC WOMAN gave her an excellent vehicle to be recognised

  • I totally agree! Lindsay Wagner was a big influence on my life. She is my favorite female actress.

  • When Graham was executed for real she wore a blindfold. She didn't want to see all the spectators looking at her.

  • Lindsay now sells memory-foam mattresses on late night TV and she is AWESOME. I bought two last week and I don't even own a bed. The woman remains a deity.

  • @ Condemned Girl - The second North Carolina gas chamber, which was installed during the renovation of Central Prison in the late 1970's, was a modified walk-in freezer, hence the unusual dimensions. The chair that was used in chamber 2 was not formerly electric, that was the case in the early years of chamber 1, when both methods overlapped (1936-1938). Professor Trina Seitz of App. State wrote her thesis on NC execution history. Look for it on Google.

  • Thanks for the info, it's nice to meet someone else who's "into" the details of the g-chamber. And for the tip on the Seitz thesis, it's great! Looks like that home-made chamber got off to a bad start, which continued a history of mishaps right up to the end. They should have bought an Eaton!

  • @CondemnedGirl The original North Carolina chamber had two doorways from what I've seen on the North Carolina state archive site. It now is in the possession of a private citizen who totes it around on a flatbed truck to schools to warn children of the dangers of drugs. I am not kidding on that.

  • @nicspic Yeah I know, I live in NC and I've seen the thing. The last guy who was executed in it,, Ricky Lee Sanderson, suffered horribly and died screaming to where they had to clear the witness room. I'm glad they switched to lethal injection though I'm not convinced that the condemned doesn't suffer while being unable to move due to the paralytic.

  • @nicspic Ooops, I'm sorry it was David Lawson who died screaming, Sanderson was stoic and chose the gas chamber because he believed he would suffer more and that he owed that to the victims family. 

  • @nicspic I just heard about a new book on the history of the gas chamber. It's titled "The Last Gasp: The Rise and Fall of the American Gas Chamber", by Scott Christianson.

  • @CondemnedGirl There is also an excellent book by Ivan Solotaroff "The Last Face You'll Ever See-The Private Life Of The American Death Penalty" it chronicles the activities of the execution team at the Parchman Farm in Mississippi where at that time they used the gas chamber. The beat reporter for the L.A.Times at the time, Gene Blake, wrote an article "Barbara Graham-Film and Fact" that gives a factual take on the crime and the trial. It's one of the Wikipedia references under Barbara Graham.

  • @ CondemnedGirl

    You are a sick fuck!!!

  • i think terrorisst should be putt in the electric chair or the has chamber..bacause its whatt they deserve!#and they should be made to choose which one..what a dilema....

    if i had to choosgas chamber or electric c chair id choose the chair...cos i hate be stuk n a confined space with my flatulant dog and its not nice,i do assure you!

  • Poor Lindsay she just didn't have it as an actress, she over did her death scene. She should go back to be the Bionic Woman.

  • shut the fuck you dont know what you are talking about she's an amazing actress , you stupid freak

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  • Where can I get a copy of this entire film on dvd for my collection? I already have the fifties version.

  • the original 1958 movie was way better

  • This scene is a bit over-dramatized. If the condemed were to breathe in deeply (as she did) at the moment the vapor cloud surrounded them, then unconsciousness would happen quickly and without much notice. It is when the inmate would fight it is when there would be a scene. It is that variable that makes the gas chamber fucked up imho...... If death is to come, it should be with certainty, like with hanging or electrocution.

  • "HOW THE HELL DO YOU KNOW"?

    just to qoute the film.......

  • @billybobmacguyver Hydrocyanic gas(prussic acid) fumes are invisible to the naked eye. A complete description of how it works is described in graphic detail in the book "The Last Face You'll Ever See" by Ivan Solotaroff. He described it as a "chemical garrotte". 

  • jack santo and emmet perkins were wanted for the robbery and torture of a grocer and his wife and for killing a familly of 5 children in wich emmet perkins beat each one to death with a metal pipe . barbra graham did beat mabel monohan to death barbra agreed to go with perkins and santo and two other men

    because they correctly counted on mabel monohan opening the door to a strange woman than a strange man

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  • I agree CondemnedGirl - Masochissilus eroticus

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  • That's so erotic! Imagine sitting in that chair, with all those people watching you, struggling helplessly against the straps as you're asphyxiated by the deadly cyanide gas.

  • CondemedGirl, just wondering if you were going to the gas chamber would you pick prison clothes or someing nice to wear? Would you want to look your best for the occation?

  • You bet, I'd want to look good. Did you see all of those guys watching? No way I'd let them see me go out in some shapeless gray prison dress. I'd either wear a nice skirt suit like Lindsay did, or else a simple black swimsuit.

  • Will you also wear a diaper?

  • No, I'm afraid it just wouldn't go with my outfit :) If I end up peeing on the state's execution chair, well, sorry, they're just going to have to deal with it!

  • So you wont be embaressed if the witnesses see you wet yourself?

  • I think I'd rather see you strapped in a chair with a bag on your head and electrocuted.

  • Yeah, I could live with that - oops, bad choice of words :) The e-chair is one of my favorite methods. Just like with the gas chamber, the "foreplay" is so wickedly intense. I really don't know which one I'd choose.

    North Carolina had the best of both, sort of. When they switched from electricity to gas, they put the old electric chair in their new, homemade gas chamber. The condemned sat facing the witnesses, with the chair's evil-looking leather mask strapped over his face.

  • I thought the mask was only used in the echair. I live in NC.

  • NC's chamber was the only one that used a mask, though in Colorado's unique three-seater, the condemned were hooded. NC's chair faced the witnesses, unlike other states where the prisoner's back was to the spectators, and I guess NC felt the need to shield them from seeing the dying person's face. Since the chamber the old echair as its death seat, I guess it was natural to use its mask, too. NC's chamber was an "oddball" in many ways, and saw more than its share of execution mishaps.

  • U gettin off on this stuff? That's an interesting fetish. lol

  • Yeah, I guess it is a bit unusual! But there are others out there who enjoy a good execution fantasy, either as executioner or victim. Hanging seems to be the favorite method.

  • Barbara Graham was a prostitute who was accussed, convicted, and utlimately executed for murdering a 64-yr old woman during a robbery attempt. Susan Hayward also portrayed Barbara Graham in I Want to Live, but in that film it is suggested Graham was innocent. Hayward, in her research in preparing for the part, believed Graham was guilty based on the evidence.

    -M.C. Miller

  • Barbara Graham was executed more for her lifestyle and less for the crime she was accused of. Remember, this was the 1950s. --- Her innocence or guilt is something that she took to the grave, and each individual has to make that decision on their own.

  • Agreed. Bear in mind, however, I am not trying to convince people she was guilty or innocent. I am merely stating facts.

  • I saw this movie about 10-15 years ago on cable. It kind of set me down a road of studying the methods of execution in the US, and ultimately led me to my decision to stand against the death penalty. It's not a matter of whether or not some of these convicts deserve to die (and if they do, do they deserve to suffer?) It's a matter of opinion, and that's all any of us have right now. I would love to discuss it with anyone, but we must keep it civil and ignorance free.

  • I saw both movies and the version with Lindsey Wagner was far more realistic, both in how Barbara Graham was portrayed in addition to the execution itself. But, I think Alan Alda's depiction of the way Caryl Chessman was executed was even more realistic, although there's still a lot that you will never see. But from everything I've read, the lethel injection is a walk in the park compared to the gas chamber.

  • Also, I agree that this version was more realistic. The way the people were crowded around the gas chamber looking in like it was a side show in the 1950's version was very unrealistic. They are very strict about maintaining an appropriate demeanor at an exectuion.

  • a witness at Chessmans execution was Will Stevens a reporter for a los angeles

    paper Mr Stevens wanted to know if cyanide gas was painfull Chessman agreed to signal only if he was experiencing agony Chessman inhaled th gas as deeply as he could ,his body flinched and his head snapped back Chessman turned toward Mr Stevens and nodded his head vigorously

  • Wow. I've never seen this. I love Lindsay Wagner - what a great scene. Could you add more info in your MORE INFO about the movie ie. what movie this is, when it aired etc. .. and the IMDB link. Thanks for posting.

  • This TV remake of I WANT TO LIVE is one of Lindsay's great performances. I too love Lindsay Wagner and don't understand why so much of her work is unavailable on DVD? Her work is not forgotten and her fan base is HUGE. Give us: Scruples,From the Dead of Night,Two Worlds of Jennie Logan,Taking of Flight 847,Treacherous Crossing,her Lifetime Intimate Portrait and others.

  • Oh well dude, at least we can see her in her Sleep Number bed commercials..LoL. FYI I didn't mean that to be insulting her, just making a joke as to about the only place to see her now.

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