My old (and I mean old) HP dv6422 boots into Ubuntu 11.04 in about 10 seconds, without UEFI, and with a 5400RPM HDD.
In any event, I'm not that concerned with boot times. I am concerned about being able to install my OS of choice. Will I still be able to install Linux on a UEFI machine?
@AndyTurfer Yes, of course. As it is often the case, Linux has been one of the first UEFI adopters, with Windows lagging far behind. So if you can't use Linux because of UEFI, it's probably because the firmware creators purposefully broke it, which should never happen.
Those who know nothing about UEFI...look it up!! There is no SSD on this T400. I had the pleasure to play with a T420s with no SSD and it does boot up in 10 seconds thanks to Lenovo's Rapid Boot and UEFI invention. Lenovo is by far the most advance PC maker out there period and ThinkPads are top quality.
The UEFI speed difference vs the BIOS is relatively negligible; the fact this is so blindingly fast is down to using an SSD; Whether you have EFI or a BIOS, the size of the bootloader files are negligible, having the processor operating in Extended Mode(64-bit mode) right from turn-on won't magically make it lighting fast; before you see the windows load bar it's already operating in Extended Mode.
The newest Linux systems boot for about 8sec through BIOS if you have the right hardware for this... There is no chance that scum Windows could ever beat Linux on equal systems.
Must have been an SSD + a very fast SSD... But even in my Custom made i5-750 freaking BIOS sucks up 15 seconds of doing all the BIOS POST and etc... VERY annoying..... Even without an SSD nad using UEFI my boot times would reduce from a minute to 45 seconds... Pop in an SSD 10-20 seconds boot time become reality!
1. Operating System is one things, sitting on the HDD, and it is some kind of "traditions" indicate that windows is more and more lazy in newer versions... Plus, is important the speed of HDD and of HDD interface. "Windows" and "speed and reliability" are two separate concept with nothing in common.
2. BIOS is another thing, this is where we look here, and can be improved.
Overall, increasing of speed seems to be minimal. The real thing is compatibility, I think.
@blancman it has a shell console & a hot key for that just powerup & press hotkey & type what you wanna boot like the Apple's Open Firmware & the pc manufacturer's are giving GUI's for the UEFI/EFI
I would assume it's a HDD. Not SSD. It's last year's hardware, he said, I don't remember many, if ANY SSDs being sold in pre-built computers at that time. Especially laptops. Putting an SSD in a laptop at this time, wouldn't that just be stupid? From what I understand, it's just the average Lenovo 400 laptop. With a different Bios.
Also remember, this is a prototype. The real deal could be even faster.
UEFI looks good (only 1 or 2 seconds) compared to my T400 with taking about 5 or 6 seconds on BIOS.
Using Vista bootloader on windows 7... that makes the boot process faster, but thats a sly way.. Original Windows 7 boot logo screen will add 2 or 3 seconds to that.
And please check ibm series x server that have uefi instead of bios, like x3650 M2. Boot time between hitting power switch and starting to load OS is taking way too fcking longer than x3650!!
from what i read from many comment. it seems you guys just don't understand what is UEFI.
The difference between UEFI and the old BIOS is that the time taken by the system to boot from "Press the power button" till the "Starting Windows (loading bar" which is only 1 to 2 seconds compare to 15 seconds made by BIOS
Don't argue about how clean or how bulky your program installed. It's just not the point here.
@houou100 In modern times, the majority of CPUs are perfectly adequate for keeping up with HDD/SDDs. The fact you say "older hardware" makes this point invalid, since right now, on a video about UEFI, we are not talking about older hardware, but new and upcoming hardware.
Having a machine full of stuff may change the result times but it still shows the key point that turn on to OS is going to be greatly improved by UEFI. one question i have is what will you have to do if you want to change your boot settings?
@amace09 It depends on the graphic hardware/software in the computer, i think if its default installation of win 7 it wont load the fancy graphic logo until you install the full graphic driver
@amace09 likely knowing microsoft, it is probably using a slightly different bootloader since UEFI and BIOS aren't the same, they probably just stuck the UEFI bootloader from windows Vista SP1 into Windows 7 for UEFI... but that's just a guess.
Would something like that be possible with a T61p?
(Mine e.g. has a Intel Core 2 Duo Penryn T9300 cpu.)
I wouldn't expect a supported solution, but maybe a hint on how to do a unsupported BIOS hack for legacy product owners would be greatly appreciated. :-)
@yourdejavu normal HDD will start as fast as that. Because UEFI allow computer to read 1024kb data at a time and the old-BIOS only allow to read 64kb at a time..this is why UEFI boot fast like that...they read 1mb at a time on the HDD..
Can you tell me if uefi will be available to replace older bios for "ALL" computer systems including laptops and desktops in the near future?
Is it available right now?
dlqhdus8686 1 month ago
@ikt123 ok, BIOS feature
cotarelo 2 months ago
Please you coders! release the BIOS unoficially at least!
cotarelo 4 months ago
@cotarelo It's not a BIOS.
ikt123 2 months ago
My old (and I mean old) HP dv6422 boots into Ubuntu 11.04 in about 10 seconds, without UEFI, and with a 5400RPM HDD.
In any event, I'm not that concerned with boot times. I am concerned about being able to install my OS of choice. Will I still be able to install Linux on a UEFI machine?
AndyTurfer 5 months ago
@AndyTurfer Yes, of course. As it is often the case, Linux has been one of the first UEFI adopters, with Windows lagging far behind. So if you can't use Linux because of UEFI, it's probably because the firmware creators purposefully broke it, which should never happen.
GreatEmerald1 3 months ago
Those who know nothing about UEFI...look it up!! There is no SSD on this T400. I had the pleasure to play with a T420s with no SSD and it does boot up in 10 seconds thanks to Lenovo's Rapid Boot and UEFI invention. Lenovo is by far the most advance PC maker out there period and ThinkPads are top quality.
medeiom 7 months ago
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medeiom 8 months ago
The UEFI speed difference vs the BIOS is relatively negligible; the fact this is so blindingly fast is down to using an SSD; Whether you have EFI or a BIOS, the size of the bootloader files are negligible, having the processor operating in Extended Mode(64-bit mode) right from turn-on won't magically make it lighting fast; before you see the windows load bar it's already operating in Extended Mode.
Oliprof 9 months ago
Great. Is it available on Lenovo laptops now or not? Are there instructions on how to get this moving?
sugarkang 9 months ago
Hi will uefi work with a lenovo 3000 N100 ?
NZGadgetMan 11 months ago
What just happened?
Thetrutv 1 year ago
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chas1996 1 year ago
How do you get into the BIOS/UEFI....
camoxide 1 year ago
The newest Linux systems boot for about 8sec through BIOS if you have the right hardware for this... There is no chance that scum Windows could ever beat Linux on equal systems.
SundownWarrior 1 year ago
damn.. not enough time to hit F2.. F8.. or even Del button..
avaroses 1 year ago 9
Chrome os is the os that boots extremely fast, That in combination with Uefi, ... would be awesome!
Bealhorm 1 year ago
Must have been an SSD + a very fast SSD... But even in my Custom made i5-750 freaking BIOS sucks up 15 seconds of doing all the BIOS POST and etc... VERY annoying..... Even without an SSD nad using UEFI my boot times would reduce from a minute to 45 seconds... Pop in an SSD 10-20 seconds boot time become reality!
elemental3656 1 year ago
1. Operating System is one things, sitting on the HDD, and it is some kind of "traditions" indicate that windows is more and more lazy in newer versions... Plus, is important the speed of HDD and of HDD interface. "Windows" and "speed and reliability" are two separate concept with nothing in common.
2. BIOS is another thing, this is where we look here, and can be improved.
Overall, increasing of speed seems to be minimal. The real thing is compatibility, I think.
mikebviras 1 year ago
SSD for sure, and one of the fastest ones!
shewasahooa 1 year ago
Are Americans really that lazy? They can't wait even 1 extra minute for their PC to load up?
ComradeNF 1 year ago
@ComradeNF So, it's bad that you can boot your pc faster? oh boy.
vviippeerr 1 year ago 2
WooW ! UEFI technology is so cool !
JonesKao 1 year ago
WooW ! UEFI technology is so cool !!
JonesKao 1 year ago
that looks like an amazing speed.
but how am i suppose to get into the bios setting?
blancman 1 year ago
@blancman it has a shell console & a hot key for that just powerup & press hotkey & type what you wanna boot like the Apple's Open Firmware & the pc manufacturer's are giving GUI's for the UEFI/EFI
individual09 1 year ago
I would assume it's a HDD. Not SSD. It's last year's hardware, he said, I don't remember many, if ANY SSDs being sold in pre-built computers at that time. Especially laptops. Putting an SSD in a laptop at this time, wouldn't that just be stupid? From what I understand, it's just the average Lenovo 400 laptop. With a different Bios.
Also remember, this is a prototype. The real deal could be even faster.
PCGamerKyle 1 year ago
flashhh...
w1nos 1 year ago
Definitely it is a SSD.
UEFI looks good (only 1 or 2 seconds) compared to my T400 with taking about 5 or 6 seconds on BIOS.
Using Vista bootloader on windows 7... that makes the boot process faster, but thats a sly way.. Original Windows 7 boot logo screen will add 2 or 3 seconds to that.
BlueWRyan 1 year ago
It has to be ssd.
And please check ibm series x server that have uefi instead of bios, like x3650 M2. Boot time between hitting power switch and starting to load OS is taking way too fcking longer than x3650!!
Either this is fake or highly customized system
ycplaya 1 year ago
@ycplaya mayb that server is having EFI 1.0
and this new thinkpad might be using UEFI 2.0
just guessing
hkterror 1 year ago
from what i read from many comment. it seems you guys just don't understand what is UEFI.
The difference between UEFI and the old BIOS is that the time taken by the system to boot from "Press the power button" till the "Starting Windows (loading bar" which is only 1 to 2 seconds compare to 15 seconds made by BIOS
Don't argue about how clean or how bulky your program installed. It's just not the point here.
hkterror 1 year ago 23
@hkterror Er, do you even know what the real differences are? It has nothing to do with boot time, not directly ^^
UnrealGlider 1 year ago
@hkterror It does NOT take 15 seconds for BIOS to POST/boot.
It takes much less time. Also coreboot boots way faster than EFI, like 0 seconds.
Frap357 7 months ago
Thats really fast! Imagine stronger PC with quad core processors how fast they will start!
Cooling23 1 year ago
@Cooling23 Booting ist NOT depending on your CPU. It depends on your HDD/SSD..
maxschierstinkt 1 year ago
@maxschierstinkt What? Of course the CPU plays a part. Plug a good SSD into older hardware and watch as the CPU is suddenly the bottleneck.
houou100 1 year ago
@houou100 Yeah, but there isn't a difference between a good dualcore or quadcore in booting.
Oh and btw:
UEFI is not speeding up the windows loading screen - its just speeding up the things before the screen.
maxschierstinkt 1 year ago
@houou100 In modern times, the majority of CPUs are perfectly adequate for keeping up with HDD/SDDs. The fact you say "older hardware" makes this point invalid, since right now, on a video about UEFI, we are not talking about older hardware, but new and upcoming hardware.
privateabstract 1 year ago
I hate when people use factory pc's to test new software/bios's on.
Not everyone has factory settings on their pc, what about those with many programs?
JihadOfTheSoul 1 year ago
Having a machine full of stuff may change the result times but it still shows the key point that turn on to OS is going to be greatly improved by UEFI. one question i have is what will you have to do if you want to change your boot settings?
G4ogami 1 year ago
UEFI will dominate the world beginning next year!!
alquiora 1 year ago
after a few months does the response time begin to lag?
100cherrypie 1 year ago
@100cherrypie No.
Rickniching 1 year ago
Incredible! I can't wait to see more information on this!
millerw9 1 year ago
no programs, no virus scans, no task bar background progrmas...
sure you'll get a fast boot, maybe not that fast but lets see when run under normal pc user cases with all the usual programs.
naelscorpio 1 year ago
Why is there a Vista loading bar?
amace09 1 year ago 4
@amace09 It depends on the graphic hardware/software in the computer, i think if its default installation of win 7 it wont load the fancy graphic logo until you install the full graphic driver
satellitboy 1 year ago
@amace09 The operating system is running its checks and loading programs required at startup.
kusmake 1 year ago
@amace09 likely knowing microsoft, it is probably using a slightly different bootloader since UEFI and BIOS aren't the same, they probably just stuck the UEFI bootloader from windows Vista SP1 into Windows 7 for UEFI... but that's just a guess.
DoomsdayR3sistance 1 year ago
Would something like that be possible with a T61p?
(Mine e.g. has a Intel Core 2 Duo Penryn T9300 cpu.)
I wouldn't expect a supported solution, but maybe a hint on how to do a unsupported BIOS hack for legacy product owners would be greatly appreciated. :-)
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dkconor 1 year ago
Nice, but I would expect this to be released together with Win 7 by all manufacters. Microsoft should really push harder...
NegrJohny 1 year ago
normal HDD or with SSD?
yourdejavu 1 year ago 51
@yourdejavu
Lenovo ThinkPad T400
Storage: 160GB HDD (7200rpm)
himalde 1 year ago 2
@yourdejavu no hdd can go that fast
HolyGfunnies 1 year ago
@yourdejavu The guy said it : IT'S A SSD!
Lebon19 1 year ago
@yourdejavu Storage: 160GB HDD (7200rpm)
gremlingswe 1 year ago
@yourdejavu
That performance is SSD :).
TechnexLOL 1 year ago
@yourdejavu Its got to be a SSD My computer after a SSD upgrade - is only 13 secs after BIOS - BIOS time is like 10 seconds also
chrisbmilton 1 year ago
@yourdejavu normal HDD will start as fast as that. Because UEFI allow computer to read 1024kb data at a time and the old-BIOS only allow to read 64kb at a time..this is why UEFI boot fast like that...they read 1mb at a time on the HDD..
Epsilons69 10 months ago
@yourdejavu SSD, clearly.
ikt123 2 months ago
That's insanely fast.
szabiakanich 1 year ago 3