she took off the vent cap to cover the trunk smell with a gas smell... when george got the can back from the sherriff he put tape over the missing vent cap
Hmmm interesting about the parents having a powerful influence on Casey. Sounds almost like brainwashing. Didn't I hear about a year ago, the parents tried to visit her in jail to supposedly give her money but they were turned away?
George admitted @ trial that he put the tape on the gas can because the tab was broken off the hole. Everyone smelled dead body in car. You may be right about George but I will be shocked if that is revealed.
So will I, re revelation. I'm not sure they ever got a good sample from Caylee that could do the job, what with Cindy's bleach, wrong hairbrush given LE, hurry-up cremation by A's, etc..... but I hope that JB can learn to ask a question at trial that will be acceptable.
@albatross234 I believe that Yuri Melich claimed in an interview w/Cindy that he knew what that smell was and suggested to her to not deny it. I think there is going to be testimony from the "Body Farm" that it was that of a decomposing body. I'm not sure but I wouldn't be surprised if some of the other Deputies on the scene 7/15/08 would concur with Yuri. And then of course the Tow Yard guy and George.
OMG,have you all forgotten all the evidence we have read? She is as guilty as sin. you are falling right into Bozo's trap...and its only day 4....She left her loving daughter with her father all the time...I guess maybe Susan smith's father abused her too, so she couldn't have possibly put her loving sons in the car and watch them slowly drown.
If you read back GA's 8/31 transcript, how ironic that when he wen to the PO to get the letter from tow yd that he first stopped at "amscott" to pay his utility and phone bills "because it was local and right down the street". If he did take the car from amscot, hide the body and replace it? He certainly knew his way to and from the place.
@dejazzd Well, I do smell a rat here (or rotted pizza), and I did forget and leave out the fact that he sifted the gas tank dry before leaving it back at Amscott (hence why he knew to bring the gas can filled again when he picked it up at tow yard), BUT, I do think Baez doesn't believe the car was used at ALL, and if anything "maybe for transport" but no evidence (other than sudo science) places the body in the car according to Baez. Kronk had the body. It will be interesting!
@dejazzd I think U R right. The judge did say that none of opening is evidence so I guess attorneys can say about anything. Maybe JB put sex abuse shocker out there to get jurors to stat looking at George in another light rather than a grieving grandparent and dosent really expect to "prove" it as defence dosen't have to prove a thing. I am glad we can discuss bad bad GA here on Albie's channel because other channels are more pro poor Georgie and think JB is just beating him up.
Here is my take. Car runs out of gas at amscott. No death smell. She calls dad, he says he will take care of it. (she tells tony so when he comes and offers too look at it). She leaves her purse in the car so dad can take it home for her. Dad comes with gas, takes car, disposes of body, returns car with her purse still in it to amscott. Towed 3 days later. Knows it will get towed to divert the evidence to her. He reiterates that with the tow guy. Two people had keys to car. CMA and GA.
@dare2dreamsite Tow place: 3 days later, car has smell. He prays? But he, as a detective, never calls cops about smell. Drives off with knowing crime scene evidence placing himself in the vehicle and in the trunk in case any other dna of his is rolling around the trunk and car. He never calls Casey to find out if she and Caylee are ok. He then just goes to work? Never talks to security buddies about any of it, but yet, made sure the tow guy got an earful of personal information.
I look at all GA's actions & non actions..how he battled the protesters, got attorney right away, ran back to work when the car came home, didnt call 911 when he smelled decomp in car but reported 2 gas cans stolen, faked suicide, affair w/River, accident snowball, "you're the boss", pushed elderly protester,combative deposition, combative witness....
@dejazzd I am not too sure the lying to friends was to buy time, think'n now it was because she didn't know Caylee was dead & mabe her father told her that he took her to the nanny's (you know ..the one describbed to look like his fling River) thus Casey says Caylee is at the nannys over & over I'm thinking too that G disposed of the body MAYBE throwing it from the trunk when he brought the car home. IMO it was G who left the car at amscot.. Casey said her dad was going to get the car fixed
@dejazzd Nancy Grace was saying yesterday that the evidence is that the duct tape was applied BEFORE death. I guess we'll wait and see what is presented at the trial. My guess is that Casey was extremely angry at her parents - especially Cindy for failing to protect and love her, so that when she was attacked by Cindy for stealing the grandmother's money, she probably exploded - lashing out at the child that Cindy DID love ---> Caylee.
@wdp103 Oh dear God, I hope you're wrong! But something tells me you are right! George knew he was Caylee's dad, that's why he & Cindy let CA get by with anything. Casey said many times she was making plans to take Caylee to California to be with Mark Hawkins. I think GA purpousely killed Caylee & fed Caseythe bull about not having to stay in prison if she reported it as a kidnapping by the nanny! In another words she;s never been too bright and she always could count on GOOD OLE 'dad.
@wdp103 Oh deal God, I hope you're wrong! But something tells me you are right! George knew he was Caylee's dad, that's why he & Cindy let CA get by with anything. Casey said many times she was making plans to take Caylee to California to be with Mark Hawkins. I think GA purpousely killed Caylee & fed Caseythe bull about not having to stay in prison if she reported it as a kidnapping by the nanny! In another words she;s never been too bright and she always could count on GOOD OLE 'dad.
Total BS. Any loving mother would never leave her daughter with her alleged former abuser or be out partying like Casey was. Had her father done this she would be withdrawn, sullen....not out partying like she had just been freed from a burden. This lady is a bleeding heart for someone who is guilty.
I've been accused of many things, but not a bleeding heart......I suppose you haven't heard about my plan of criminals of vicious crimes being dropped off on a deserted island with a bag of fish hooks? This way would offer an alternative sentence for the difficult to get DP. You know, a DP on the installment plan for the lazy criminals.
@999Atwood Case after case wil have the maturing incest victim being replaced by a younger relative, or their own child. Turns out they can be brave enough to do what it takes to protect their child. the pedo keeps reminding the mother, vic that no one would believe her, and he'[d get the children.
Right albatrosa. GA got caught in that depo lie today on the witness stand, he put that tape on long b4 the depo, b4 Casey told about the rape/molestation, which leads me to believe he was setting her up to fall while he faked support of her to her so she wouldn't rat him off. Did she rat him off before depo? I think there is more to death of Caylee to if she drowned. If GA YELLED at her, intimidating her, remember he found Caylee & remember Casey & Caylee was the thorn in his side early on
@Tesstyify I remember something about Casey being a problem in his marriage and he wanted her to move out, and that Cindy had finally agreed... or was off and on about it. I am watching anticipating a build up here. THE WHAT IFS are getting to me, but I think it may be possible, if he is able to set her up this way, he may have been able to drown Caylee and scare the bejesus out of her. She obviously wasn't able to plan anything & GA knew that & she would fall (with his help). Rapist=Monster
I wonder if Casey knows that Tony L now lives with a woman who has a little girl. If she does bet it burns her butt. If Casey had taken the plea deal that was offered to her at the beginning of this mess she would be half way to getting out on parole already.
@shadoewz hmmm. wonder if Casey is jealous. Could be, would be normal, but maybe not, because I am not sure they were in love... Maybe. Did you see Tony L fighting off tears/crying when Baez reminded him... this is a death sentence trial, Casey may die. That visibly shook up Tony. Casey may have been railroaded into this huge mess and lies she had to tell. I kind of got the feeling Tony knew a little more about Casey then everyone assuming guilt so quickly on this case. Interesting to see
Casey was used to staying with her boyfriends on overnights with Caylee in the bed with them. Her new beau, Tony L, did not want Caylee there for overnights. Casey got rid of her little "snot head" because she thought that would free her up to be with Tony L. Think of Diane Down and Susan Smith....
GA is somehow guilty. IMO he "helped" KC in exchange for KC not telling about the sex abuse but she told & CA choked her for telling such a "lie." Then GA had to do something or CA would insist a DNA test done resulting in GA being exposed. You see, GA thought he might be the father. This would lead to GA's manipulating KC into thinking Caylee's death was all her fault. IMO GA tells KC that if the body is never found, she would be safe from prison (reason KC reacted when body was found).
@wdp103 THUMBS-UP!! You got it wdp! LE will never change... they are always right, you know. GA wants his daughter found guilty so no one will come after him.
BINGO! Georgette is a 'neat' freak (amongst other types of freak) I think you are RIGHT Albie! He was & IS trying to make sure Casey goes away for a lonnnnggg time! It all makes sense! Baez KNOWS about the DNA of Georgie boy/girl ~ the creep!
I too, reserve the right to change my mind at any given time ~ after all this is only the beginning!
Hello Albie---I have watched your postings from day one of this tragedy when you straight off pointed the finger at George. If you go back to the early FBI and LE interrogations of George, he alone places suspicion on Casey. Cindy never ONCE suggests Casey is behind Caylee's disappearance, yet in every interview George talks about the smell at Johnsons Wreckers and the gas cans in the trunk!! He leads the detectives down that route. But why? What's his motive? Help me out here someone!!
@fairlinda1 It is only my opinion ~ but I believe it ~ George wants to escape the fact that HE is Caylee's biological father! Imagine (if u can) the emotional, psychological & mental problems you would suffer IF you were impregnated by your father! (I'm sorry, I know it's difficult to think of) but this happens a LOT more then any of us care to think about!
I d/n think Geo did it b/c neither Casey nor Cindy would protect him if he did. Geo may want to put Casey in prison for another reason --- perhaps to cover the child molestation of him on Casey. Casey was the one who stormed out after her mother choked her on 6/15 -- she was angry and most likely killed Caylee in a fit of revenge.
@SkyBlueAugust Ummm, didn't KC's cell pings show her as being on the phone w/Tony all night at the Hopespring address? I think just maybe it was a pool accident, OR GA killed Caylee to get rid of the two thorns in his side. After losing Caylee & then Casey, Cindy's already a psychotic NUT, she'll have to be committed ~ for good, therefore Georgette winds up free, lots of blood money and the house!
@SkyBlueAugust Ummm, didn't KC's cell pings show her as being on the phone w/Tony all night at the Hopespring address? I think just maybe it was a pool accident, OR GA killed Caylee to get rid of the two thorns in his side. After losing Caylee & then Casey to the DP, Cindy's already a psychotic NUT, she'll have to be committed ~ for good! Therefore, Georgette winds up free,no more working, lots of blood money and the house!
ALbie is right - 'ain't he a real peach of a guy?"
@KatesMiMi If Caylee drowned in the pool, why the duct tape UNLESS Casey drowned her purposely. I think it is likely that Casey killed her with cholorform in her trunk after duct taping her mouth. Casey was already thinking of murder - as the computer searches show. She was one ANGRY young lady --- pissed off at both parents and with no real world sense of reality.
she took off the vent cap to cover the trunk smell with a gas smell... when george got the can back from the sherriff he put tape over the missing vent cap
HackerGuitarist 8 months ago
I read everyone's post on here. If GA really did it, it explains alot like why Casey was adamant about Caylee being okay early on.
If this is all true about GA. Then he is living a real nightmare right now and fears what's to come in this trial.
Either CA is dumber than a rock, or she is in so much denial that she can't even fathom the truth.
GaGirlie777 8 months ago
Hmmm interesting about the parents having a powerful influence on Casey. Sounds almost like brainwashing. Didn't I hear about a year ago, the parents tried to visit her in jail to supposedly give her money but they were turned away?
GaGirlie777 8 months ago
another irony; the gas cans and kc are both 25 yrs. old.
hollyzone 9 months ago
@hollyzone lol.
albatross234 9 months ago
it's sad that kc and G are each others' reasonable doubt.
hollyzone 9 months ago
George admitted @ trial that he put the tape on the gas can because the tab was broken off the hole. Everyone smelled dead body in car. You may be right about George but I will be shocked if that is revealed.
Sightation 9 months ago
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So will I, re revelation. I'm not sure they ever got a good sample from Caylee that could do the job, what with Cindy's bleach, wrong hairbrush given LE, hurry-up cremation by A's, etc..... but I hope that JB can learn to ask a question at trial that will be acceptable.
albatross234 9 months ago
Respond to this video... BTW, what people have reported the smell? Tow yard guy........who else?
albatross234 9 months ago
@albatross234 I believe that Yuri Melich claimed in an interview w/Cindy that he knew what that smell was and suggested to her to not deny it. I think there is going to be testimony from the "Body Farm" that it was that of a decomposing body. I'm not sure but I wouldn't be surprised if some of the other Deputies on the scene 7/15/08 would concur with Yuri. And then of course the Tow Yard guy and George.
Sightation 9 months ago
@albatross234 Cindy, George, tow guy, the guy who opened the can and... uh.. ?
HatRatt 8 months ago
OMG,have you all forgotten all the evidence we have read? She is as guilty as sin. you are falling right into Bozo's trap...and its only day 4....She left her loving daughter with her father all the time...I guess maybe Susan smith's father abused her too, so she couldn't have possibly put her loving sons in the car and watch them slowly drown.
ellasgodmother 9 months ago
@ellasgodmother i agree.
lynnej1970 9 months ago
If you read back GA's 8/31 transcript, how ironic that when he wen to the PO to get the letter from tow yd that he first stopped at "amscott" to pay his utility and phone bills "because it was local and right down the street". If he did take the car from amscot, hide the body and replace it? He certainly knew his way to and from the place.
dare2dreamsite 9 months ago 4
@dejazzd Well, I do smell a rat here (or rotted pizza), and I did forget and leave out the fact that he sifted the gas tank dry before leaving it back at Amscott (hence why he knew to bring the gas can filled again when he picked it up at tow yard), BUT, I do think Baez doesn't believe the car was used at ALL, and if anything "maybe for transport" but no evidence (other than sudo science) places the body in the car according to Baez. Kronk had the body. It will be interesting!
dare2dreamsite 9 months ago 2
@dejazzd I think U R right. The judge did say that none of opening is evidence so I guess attorneys can say about anything. Maybe JB put sex abuse shocker out there to get jurors to stat looking at George in another light rather than a grieving grandparent and dosent really expect to "prove" it as defence dosen't have to prove a thing. I am glad we can discuss bad bad GA here on Albie's channel because other channels are more pro poor Georgie and think JB is just beating him up.
HatRatt 9 months ago
@HatRatt Yeah this is the only channel that hasn't already convicted Casey.
GaGirlie777 8 months ago
Here is my take. Car runs out of gas at amscott. No death smell. She calls dad, he says he will take care of it. (she tells tony so when he comes and offers too look at it). She leaves her purse in the car so dad can take it home for her. Dad comes with gas, takes car, disposes of body, returns car with her purse still in it to amscott. Towed 3 days later. Knows it will get towed to divert the evidence to her. He reiterates that with the tow guy. Two people had keys to car. CMA and GA.
dare2dreamsite 9 months ago
@dare2dreamsite Tow place: 3 days later, car has smell. He prays? But he, as a detective, never calls cops about smell. Drives off with knowing crime scene evidence placing himself in the vehicle and in the trunk in case any other dna of his is rolling around the trunk and car. He never calls Casey to find out if she and Caylee are ok. He then just goes to work? Never talks to security buddies about any of it, but yet, made sure the tow guy got an earful of personal information.
dare2dreamsite 9 months ago
@dare2dreamsite
Per body farm test, the trunk fibers were exposed to a decomposing body 2.6 days.
albatross234 9 months ago
@dare2dreamsite
That makes sense. Now Jose needs to prove it. Meanwhile 90% of country thinks she's guilty of murder. Nancy Grace has spent 3 years convicting her.
GaGirlie777 8 months ago
I look at all GA's actions & non actions..how he battled the protesters, got attorney right away, ran back to work when the car came home, didnt call 911 when he smelled decomp in car but reported 2 gas cans stolen, faked suicide, affair w/River, accident snowball, "you're the boss", pushed elderly protester,combative deposition, combative witness....
HatRatt 9 months ago
@dejazzd I am not too sure the lying to friends was to buy time, think'n now it was because she didn't know Caylee was dead & mabe her father told her that he took her to the nanny's (you know ..the one describbed to look like his fling River) thus Casey says Caylee is at the nannys over & over I'm thinking too that G disposed of the body MAYBE throwing it from the trunk when he brought the car home. IMO it was G who left the car at amscot.. Casey said her dad was going to get the car fixed
HatRatt 9 months ago
@dejazzd Nancy Grace was saying yesterday that the evidence is that the duct tape was applied BEFORE death. I guess we'll wait and see what is presented at the trial. My guess is that Casey was extremely angry at her parents - especially Cindy for failing to protect and love her, so that when she was attacked by Cindy for stealing the grandmother's money, she probably exploded - lashing out at the child that Cindy DID love ---> Caylee.
SkyBlueAugust 9 months ago
Someones been watching too much Law & Order and/or Conspiracy Theory with Jesse Ventura,,,
rgz1985 9 months ago
@wdp103 Oh dear God, I hope you're wrong! But something tells me you are right! George knew he was Caylee's dad, that's why he & Cindy let CA get by with anything. Casey said many times she was making plans to take Caylee to California to be with Mark Hawkins. I think GA purpousely killed Caylee & fed Caseythe bull about not having to stay in prison if she reported it as a kidnapping by the nanny! In another words she;s never been too bright and she always could count on GOOD OLE 'dad.
KatesMiMi 9 months ago
@wdp103 Oh deal God, I hope you're wrong! But something tells me you are right! George knew he was Caylee's dad, that's why he & Cindy let CA get by with anything. Casey said many times she was making plans to take Caylee to California to be with Mark Hawkins. I think GA purpousely killed Caylee & fed Caseythe bull about not having to stay in prison if she reported it as a kidnapping by the nanny! In another words she;s never been too bright and she always could count on GOOD OLE 'dad.
KatesMiMi 9 months ago
Total BS. Any loving mother would never leave her daughter with her alleged former abuser or be out partying like Casey was. Had her father done this she would be withdrawn, sullen....not out partying like she had just been freed from a burden. This lady is a bleeding heart for someone who is guilty.
999Atwood 9 months ago
@999Atwood
I've been accused of many things, but not a bleeding heart......I suppose you haven't heard about my plan of criminals of vicious crimes being dropped off on a deserted island with a bag of fish hooks? This way would offer an alternative sentence for the difficult to get DP. You know, a DP on the installment plan for the lazy criminals.
albatross234 9 months ago 4
@999Atwood Case after case wil have the maturing incest victim being replaced by a younger relative, or their own child. Turns out they can be brave enough to do what it takes to protect their child. the pedo keeps reminding the mother, vic that no one would believe her, and he'[d get the children.
albatross234 9 months ago 4
@999Atwood I agree with you...they are all falling for bozo's lies
ellasgodmother 9 months ago
Albie, I also reserve the right to change my mind just like that little ol' time courtroom cartoon.
HatRatt 9 months ago
Right albatrosa. GA got caught in that depo lie today on the witness stand, he put that tape on long b4 the depo, b4 Casey told about the rape/molestation, which leads me to believe he was setting her up to fall while he faked support of her to her so she wouldn't rat him off. Did she rat him off before depo? I think there is more to death of Caylee to if she drowned. If GA YELLED at her, intimidating her, remember he found Caylee & remember Casey & Caylee was the thorn in his side early on
Tesstyify 9 months ago 2
@Tesstyify I remember something about Casey being a problem in his marriage and he wanted her to move out, and that Cindy had finally agreed... or was off and on about it. I am watching anticipating a build up here. THE WHAT IFS are getting to me, but I think it may be possible, if he is able to set her up this way, he may have been able to drown Caylee and scare the bejesus out of her. She obviously wasn't able to plan anything & GA knew that & she would fall (with his help). Rapist=Monster
Tesstyify 9 months ago
I wonder if Casey knows that Tony L now lives with a woman who has a little girl. If she does bet it burns her butt. If Casey had taken the plea deal that was offered to her at the beginning of this mess she would be half way to getting out on parole already.
shadoewz 9 months ago
@shadoewz hmmm. wonder if Casey is jealous. Could be, would be normal, but maybe not, because I am not sure they were in love... Maybe. Did you see Tony L fighting off tears/crying when Baez reminded him... this is a death sentence trial, Casey may die. That visibly shook up Tony. Casey may have been railroaded into this huge mess and lies she had to tell. I kind of got the feeling Tony knew a little more about Casey then everyone assuming guilt so quickly on this case. Interesting to see
Tesstyify 9 months ago 2
Casey was used to staying with her boyfriends on overnights with Caylee in the bed with them. Her new beau, Tony L, did not want Caylee there for overnights. Casey got rid of her little "snot head" because she thought that would free her up to be with Tony L. Think of Diane Down and Susan Smith....
shadoewz 9 months ago
@shadoewz
yes and they were both incested by their fathers.
hollyzone 9 months ago
@dejazzd Thank you! That was going to be my question. Only...you asked it better. :-)
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GA is somehow guilty. IMO he "helped" KC in exchange for KC not telling about the sex abuse but she told & CA choked her for telling such a "lie." Then GA had to do something or CA would insist a DNA test done resulting in GA being exposed. You see, GA thought he might be the father. This would lead to GA's manipulating KC into thinking Caylee's death was all her fault. IMO GA tells KC that if the body is never found, she would be safe from prison (reason KC reacted when body was found).
HatRatt 9 months ago 3
@HatRatt
Definitely agree with KC being told she was safe from prison if body never found. gold star.
albatross234 9 months ago 4
@albatross234 LOL...I get it...
HatRatt 9 months ago
@wdp103 THUMBS-UP!! You got it wdp! LE will never change... they are always right, you know. GA wants his daughter found guilty so no one will come after him.
HatRatt 9 months ago 6
BINGO! Georgette is a 'neat' freak (amongst other types of freak) I think you are RIGHT Albie! He was & IS trying to make sure Casey goes away for a lonnnnggg time! It all makes sense! Baez KNOWS about the DNA of Georgie boy/girl ~ the creep!
I too, reserve the right to change my mind at any given time ~ after all this is only the beginning!
KatesMiMi 9 months ago
Hello Albie---I have watched your postings from day one of this tragedy when you straight off pointed the finger at George. If you go back to the early FBI and LE interrogations of George, he alone places suspicion on Casey. Cindy never ONCE suggests Casey is behind Caylee's disappearance, yet in every interview George talks about the smell at Johnsons Wreckers and the gas cans in the trunk!! He leads the detectives down that route. But why? What's his motive? Help me out here someone!!
fairlinda1 9 months ago
@fairlinda1 It is only my opinion ~ but I believe it ~ George wants to escape the fact that HE is Caylee's biological father! Imagine (if u can) the emotional, psychological & mental problems you would suffer IF you were impregnated by your father! (I'm sorry, I know it's difficult to think of) but this happens a LOT more then any of us care to think about!
KatesMiMi 9 months ago 2
I d/n think Geo did it b/c neither Casey nor Cindy would protect him if he did. Geo may want to put Casey in prison for another reason --- perhaps to cover the child molestation of him on Casey. Casey was the one who stormed out after her mother choked her on 6/15 -- she was angry and most likely killed Caylee in a fit of revenge.
SkyBlueAugust 9 months ago
@SkyBlueAugust Ummm, didn't KC's cell pings show her as being on the phone w/Tony all night at the Hopespring address? I think just maybe it was a pool accident, OR GA killed Caylee to get rid of the two thorns in his side. After losing Caylee & then Casey, Cindy's already a psychotic NUT, she'll have to be committed ~ for good, therefore Georgette winds up free, lots of blood money and the house!
KatesMiMi 9 months ago 2
@SkyBlueAugust Ummm, didn't KC's cell pings show her as being on the phone w/Tony all night at the Hopespring address? I think just maybe it was a pool accident, OR GA killed Caylee to get rid of the two thorns in his side. After losing Caylee & then Casey to the DP, Cindy's already a psychotic NUT, she'll have to be committed ~ for good! Therefore, Georgette winds up free,no more working, lots of blood money and the house!
ALbie is right - 'ain't he a real peach of a guy?"
KatesMiMi 9 months ago 2
@KatesMiMi If Caylee drowned in the pool, why the duct tape UNLESS Casey drowned her purposely. I think it is likely that Casey killed her with cholorform in her trunk after duct taping her mouth. Casey was already thinking of murder - as the computer searches show. She was one ANGRY young lady --- pissed off at both parents and with no real world sense of reality.
SkyBlueAugust 9 months ago