@NASAvsPETE No it was not. They used the flying bedsted for simulating the landing outside (sitting down) but on the cape they had a Lunar module simulator where they were standing up in, just like the real thing. Also i have seen that some non believer once showed footage of the bedsted and claimed that could never fly in outer space. No it was a training verhicle. And that shot was made AFTER the real LEM had already been tested on Apollo nine.
I was just thinking that if the landing were faked, those guys at Gruman went through a lot of hard work to build a spacecraft that looks nothing like a spacecraft should but still performs like it should.
I always like this video cause it explains what a system engineer does better than anything else I have seen. Too bad we wasted the work done in getting to the moon.
Im not a moon landing dennyer but I have my doubts. In the 1960s it would have been so difficult to land on the moon but incredibly easy to fake the whole thing. The footage of the men on the moon looks fake, especially the capsule taking off. Also why are none of the astronauts in the public eye? I never see them on talk shows or being interviewed. They just seem too quiet, as if they have something to hide. Sorry if my views offend anyone, it is not my intension.
@jonathan45278 Sure it was difficult, the Russians couldn't pull it off in time. But as far as the state of film/video effects of the time, I would say it would have been much more difficult to fake than you might imagine. Watch a movie like "Fantastic Voyage" (1967) to see how clunky the process photography of the day looked. The 100+ effects shots in "2001" took months to do. Faking all the Apollo missions would require hours of footage of that caliber in 16mm, B&W and color TV. (more)
@jonathan45278 And don't forget the hundreds of staged & posed 70mm Ektachrome stills, plus weeks of cockpit audio chatter that would have to be performed by, not actors, but test pilots. Try getting an amateur to read a 30 second radio script sometime if you don't think it's tough.
Sure faking it was doable, but would that fake footage hold up 40 years later? This was also before any sort of digital compositing or animation, and the recording & editing of color video was truly in its infancy.
@jonathan45278 You think that the take-off from the Moon looks fake, why? Because it doesn't look like Avatar or Star Trek? The LEM used fuel that didn't produce a visible flame. If you also wonder why there aren't any stars, learn some basic rules of photography, and go try to take a picture of stars while keeping foreground subjects properly exposed. I bet you can't do it. Also, plenty of astronauts give interviews. Buzz Aldrin is all over the place. Neil sometimes gives interviews too.
@jonathan45278 You do realize that the Russians where able to track each Apollo mission. If there had been any discrepancy's, I'm sure we would of heard about it.
This is back in the days where we had imagination, when we would reach out for the impossible, and make it possible. It is soo sad that we have killed imagination dead.
It's infuriating knowing that the only thing holding us back from going back to the moon and developing our own technology here on earth is money and lack of curiosity.
Amazing what can be accomplished when the brightest minds are all working together.We really could develope technology to rid ourselves of fossil fuel dependecy.
@mousepd Nope, I meant the Apollo Program. A lot of lives were lost making space flight possible: Gus Grissom, Roger Chaffee, Ed White, Charles Bassett, Eliott See, Edward Givens, Theodore Freeman just to name a few.
And your point is? When George Washington (under huge skepticism) asked his medics to innoculate his soldiers with chicken pox one winter, one of every ten died from the experiment. But it was worth it. Having learned this teqnique from the Native Americans it gave rise to one of medicine's greatest discoveries. Not one soldier was ordered to do this. They all volunteered. Not one Astronaut was ever ordered to climb aboard a bomb with wings. They all volunteered.
You arent trying to claim that Washington invented vaccines are you? It had nothing to do with him and eveything to do with Edward Jenner, an Englishman
@NASAvsPETE No it was not. They used the flying bedsted for simulating the landing outside (sitting down) but on the cape they had a Lunar module simulator where they were standing up in, just like the real thing. Also i have seen that some non believer once showed footage of the bedsted and claimed that could never fly in outer space. No it was a training verhicle. And that shot was made AFTER the real LEM had already been tested on Apollo nine.
Darklord6425 3 months ago
I was just thinking that if the landing were faked, those guys at Gruman went through a lot of hard work to build a spacecraft that looks nothing like a spacecraft should but still performs like it should.
mustang6172 7 months ago
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The moon missions were faked in a studio. Here's a link to some of the evidence.
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Cosmored3 8 months ago
I always like this video cause it explains what a system engineer does better than anything else I have seen. Too bad we wasted the work done in getting to the moon.
dad2luke 10 months ago
Im not a moon landing dennyer but I have my doubts. In the 1960s it would have been so difficult to land on the moon but incredibly easy to fake the whole thing. The footage of the men on the moon looks fake, especially the capsule taking off. Also why are none of the astronauts in the public eye? I never see them on talk shows or being interviewed. They just seem too quiet, as if they have something to hide. Sorry if my views offend anyone, it is not my intension.
jonathan45278 10 months ago
@jonathan45278 Sure it was difficult, the Russians couldn't pull it off in time. But as far as the state of film/video effects of the time, I would say it would have been much more difficult to fake than you might imagine. Watch a movie like "Fantastic Voyage" (1967) to see how clunky the process photography of the day looked. The 100+ effects shots in "2001" took months to do. Faking all the Apollo missions would require hours of footage of that caliber in 16mm, B&W and color TV. (more)
hibob418 9 months ago
@jonathan45278 And don't forget the hundreds of staged & posed 70mm Ektachrome stills, plus weeks of cockpit audio chatter that would have to be performed by, not actors, but test pilots. Try getting an amateur to read a 30 second radio script sometime if you don't think it's tough.
Sure faking it was doable, but would that fake footage hold up 40 years later? This was also before any sort of digital compositing or animation, and the recording & editing of color video was truly in its infancy.
hibob418 9 months ago
@jonathan45278 You think that the take-off from the Moon looks fake, why? Because it doesn't look like Avatar or Star Trek? The LEM used fuel that didn't produce a visible flame. If you also wonder why there aren't any stars, learn some basic rules of photography, and go try to take a picture of stars while keeping foreground subjects properly exposed. I bet you can't do it. Also, plenty of astronauts give interviews. Buzz Aldrin is all over the place. Neil sometimes gives interviews too.
VanKlaunch 9 months ago 4
@jonathan45278 You do realize that the Russians where able to track each Apollo mission. If there had been any discrepancy's, I'm sure we would of heard about it.
mako88sb 1 month ago
Grumman's Engineers were the best choice for the LEM project. They built it simple, durable and as ugly as possible.
I wonder what would have been built if Lockheed's Skunk Works got involved...
Nighthawke70 11 months ago
This is back in the days where we had imagination, when we would reach out for the impossible, and make it possible. It is soo sad that we have killed imagination dead.
Doctor699 1 year ago
@Doctor699 I hear you although I think its actually that without funding things don't get done.
MightySaturn5 1 year ago
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mousepd 1 year ago
Holy S*&t! The guys playing Tom Kelly is Hardware from Meatballs!!
NebraskasWallpaper 1 year ago
This was my favorite episode from this series...
Tamaslammer 1 year ago
I love this clip; I love how a team can work the problem.
nycdweller 1 year ago
What that jazzy sound in background? Reminds me of Tycoon :D
larsiemannen 2 years ago
It's infuriating knowing that the only thing holding us back from going back to the moon and developing our own technology here on earth is money and lack of curiosity.
youvebeenthunderstru 2 years ago
Amazing what can be accomplished when the brightest minds are all working together.We really could develope technology to rid ourselves of fossil fuel dependecy.
If really wanted it bad enough.
I sure miss the old Moon Mission days.
mousepd 3 years ago 20
@mousepd All it cost were a couple billion dollars and a few dozen lives.
mustang6172 1 year ago
@mustang6172
I was talking about the Apollo Space Program. You must be referring to illegal Immigration and slain U.S. Border Patrol Agents.
mousepd 1 year ago
@mousepd Nope, I meant the Apollo Program. A lot of lives were lost making space flight possible: Gus Grissom, Roger Chaffee, Ed White, Charles Bassett, Eliott See, Edward Givens, Theodore Freeman just to name a few.
mustang6172 1 year ago
@mustang6172
And your point is? When George Washington (under huge skepticism) asked his medics to innoculate his soldiers with chicken pox one winter, one of every ten died from the experiment. But it was worth it. Having learned this teqnique from the Native Americans it gave rise to one of medicine's greatest discoveries. Not one soldier was ordered to do this. They all volunteered. Not one Astronaut was ever ordered to climb aboard a bomb with wings. They all volunteered.
mousepd 1 year ago
@mousepd
You arent trying to claim that Washington invented vaccines are you? It had nothing to do with him and eveything to do with Edward Jenner, an Englishman
jonewer 1 year ago
Spider was by far the best, along with Galileo was Right.
thehoaxbuster 3 years ago 17
Have you ever read Tom Kelly's book? Good stuff.
CusterApollo 2 years ago
a great episode
joachim2464 3 years ago