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  • Regardless of types of bikes, this is what makes racing exciting....Riders fighting for number one spot and swapping position.....I have not seen many good seasons since 1997 when Mcgrath and Emig came down to the last turn in the outdoor series...The last turn of the last race determined the 1997 outdoor winner for that year...Emig won it for Kawasaki...

  • 4 strokes are  like tamponds only pussys have thim.

  • @icedlatte123 are you kidding, 2 strokes sound soo much better. rather hear an off tap 2 stroke then hear valves turn inside-out.

  • that has to be one of the sickest passes i have ever seen. no ego just pure pro skill and cool head work. props!!!

  • 2 Stroke is the way to go ! Fuck 4 stroke

  • And at the end of all this the 4 strokes all go in for a rebuild and the 2 stroke gets a wash and a new air filter and its good to go

  • @RovingLandRover u choose motorbike trough sound?! FAIL

  • love it

  • @moiolennaab becouse 4 strokes have more low end for pussys and when they break it cost a shit load as when a 2 stroke barrely ever breaks becouse you rebuild it yearly when a 4 stroke you normaly dont so theres more oppertonety for them to break thats why dumbass's that dont know bikes buy 4 strokes.. over all 2 strokes are more top end so theres more power and there cheaper just a yearly bill.. so really 4 strokes are jokes and there a scam thats why im on a team for mx and we al race 2 stroke

  • Very very good rider on the 125!!! 2 Stroke 4 ever!!!

  • uhm it looks like a 4 stroke in the top 2 to me.  I dont see any expansion chamber.

  • @aramhampson are you retarded?

  • @mountjoy61 yeah maybe i am.. many of these comment i dont remember even writing. i think my step-son makes many of them as he uses my computer.. so i am not sure what you are saying i am retarted about, but it is not the first time I have been called a tard.

  • 2 stroke to four stroke is about what you want. New 4s can compete but due to engine constranints are heavier than twos, making it nessesary top have higher displacement. I have riden both for yeatrs and for certain riding 2s are best, but 4s are more versatile. 4s can kick 2s ass at the Oregon dunes. the 2 stroke is impracticle, as I need a bike that wont piss people off, due to wheeeenneeeen. But, gotta love'dem 2 strokes. they are so damn fun to ride, but new 4s are damn competative

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  • 2 strko is ,much powerful..here in philippines i use to drag my 97 cr125 gainst a 4stroke 125 drive belted automatic drag bike..still cant lose a 2stroke long live to all 2strokes bike..brrrrrrrrrppppppppppppp.­..

  • 2 stroke

  • dont care what gets said four stroke the best sound and the better engine four stroke power all the way brrrrrrrrrrrap

  • @ktmtomdux

    brrrrrrrap is the 2 stroke sound idiot. 2 stroke are more powerful and faster. That's why you get to run 250cc 4 strokes against 125 2strokes because the 4 stroke needs to be double in size to compete. HANDICAP

  • Haha what an blockbuster xD! driving a 450 kawasaki but gone go down to a 250 KX soon =)

  • I miss Two Strokes. The smell, the sound, and the fact you really have to know how to ride a limited powerband, esp. on a 125......

  • @dink65

    2 strokes develop skills a 4 stroke can't match

  • The only reason four strokes are being bought is because that's all they're selling you. It's so much bullshit. The 2 stroke has far, far, far more potential in terms of weight, cost, power etc. These manufactures are succumbing to political correctness, environmental hysteria, and governmental bullying. If you're an old schooler, at least 40 years or older you know what a bunch of bullshit 4 strokes are.

  • @Ireg2post1 Im 15 and i know exactly how much bullshit the 4 strokes are. And im glad to say that i would NEVER ride a 4 stroke.

  • @Ireg2post1 hey i'm an old schooler and 4s have a place. They want more $ as fours cost more to rebuild. I run a tiny bit of 2 stroke oil in my 4 when I need to ride really hard. Seems to work for me. I too miss the ol CR500, but at my age and location there aint no place to ride anymore.

  • I am ashamed too say im a 4 stroke man now cmon 20 odd 2504T couldn't catch that little 1442 smoker

  • amazing race!! very good battle

  • rename it.. "the little husky that could"

  • shittest track, doesnt even give them legs to move

  • gAH LEE my heart was racin at 3 min.. GO 2 SMOKE

  • makes me cry! hell yeah!

  • Cant underestimate TM's they have wicked motors and are almost unherdof in America. There 125 2 stroke sounds like a jap 250 2 stroke. Not as bumble bee sounding as the usual 125. Great clean pass at the end. Good vid.

  • we all know 2 strokes are feisty , the dude on the four was on it ! adaptable racing lines were epic ! think they should swap bikes and try again ;)

  • AMA are not the ones afraid of the two strokes they just want the money the big bike compaines give them for making the rules. 450 4 stroke = 250 two stroke. whats the difference you ask? cost for maintance. god damn greedy bitches.

  • I agree but it is not the AMA's fault.  If you read the AMA news letters and feed back pages, the only reason 2 strokes did not come back for the 2010 SX and not going to come back for the 2010 MX is because the four big OEMS do not want their own 250 2 strokes competing against their own 450 4 strokes. Why? Because they say their 250 2s are quicker than their 450 4s.

    The OEMS said it, I am just repeating it.

  • @casnick1 That is why they forced all the top riders to switch to the 4 strokes. if the top guys still rode the 250 2 strokes they couldn't sell their over priced 4 strokes to the brain washed public.

  • arenacross.

  • Put him on a ktm haha

  • i dont think hes intrested in being last

  • haha! i was watching this in the family room on my laptop and when the TM rider made the pass for the win i stood up and starting sreaming YEAHHH!! then my family looked at me like i was fucking retarted..

    way to TM rider, mad skills

  • because you are.....

  • what are the ama regulations???

  • @kpskater05 Pretty much you can only race 2 strokes in the Amature ranks, 250 2 strokes can race in either the 250f class or the 450f class

  • AMA is afraid of the 2 stroke. they why they made rules to not allow it to race professionally.

  • awesome video, fuck the ama's dumb regulations on 2 strokes, long live them

  • gata hand it to the ktm rider

  • long live 2 stronkes and TM racing! this video was fucking awesomeeeee|

  • sx is to tight and tech for me

  • fucking amazing

  • he could have won if he stopped lookin behind him and raced whats in front of him

  • never mind, i wrote that before i seen the very end.

  • no kidding

  • my uncle has a 2 stroke 350cc jawa endro and i got to say that bike sounds evil,feels evil and rides evil!!

    2 strokes are amazing!!!

  • long live 2 strokes

  • Hell yeah XD

  • If you read the AMA news letters and feed back pages, the only reason 2 strokes are not coming back to SX and MX circuits in 2010 is because the four big OEMS do not want their own 250 2 strokes competing against their own 450 4 strokes. Why? Because they say their 250 2s are quicker than their 450 4s.

    The OEMS said it, I am just repeating it.

  • I bet the majority of people that dis 2stroke have never ridden one

    because they're too scared!

    panzy asses

  • Almost looked like the guy on the TM was playing the fool - Looking back - Nudge nudge and then off to the flag LOL

    No wonder Japan wont allow pro's on 2 strokes - it could cause a sales problem for the POS 4T - The cheaper low maintenance bike with ½ the motor can get there!.

    Rather keep them banned and keep the suckers buying 4 strokes.

    Buba on a 125 /watch?v=uICX65Eq94Y

    What would happen with a 250 vs 250 race Pro's as the rules were meant to be for 2010 before Japan threatened the AMA

  • That was a sick ass battle fo show.

  • was that in The city Goes?

  • Great video!!

  • man im glad i ride a cr125r 2 stroke ;)

  • lol i wana be there sweet smell of 2 stroke yum!!!!! :D

  • fuck a four stroke... imma be reppin two strokes long as i ride.

  • theonly reason why he four stroke is takin over is because theyre so easy to ride u can go out for a twenty minute practice session on a two andcome in with arm pump an sweatin like a germam rapist in a childrens home but if you come back rom a twenty minute session on a four stroke ur like what the fucks that to be honest i just dont see the fun in goin out on a weekend and ridin like an old man on mobility scooter theyr justlike rev and goes a two stroke way more fun and exciin

  • you say it like the tm's are slow, most 125 2 stroke produce more than 250f's, i seend a vid where a 150r destroys a load of 250f's, so its mainly rider skill.

  • 2-stroke FTW!!!!!!

  • i watched a ktm 65 take on a bunch of 4-stroke 250s and 450s and the 65 beat them all

  • are you a fucking moron you didnt just say that a shitty little ktm 65 beat a 450 did you even a 125 or 100 stfu you stupid ass kid

  • i sat there at the track and watched it you stupid fuck and yea i did just say a 65 beat a 450 cause it did so dont be talking shit if you dont even know wat happend

  • your a fucking idiot im not even gonna argue that stupid comment

  • your the fucking idiot your talking shit about something you dont even know what your talking about

  • HAHAHHHAHAHAHAAHAHAHHAHAHAHAAH­AHAHAAHHAHAHAHAHAHAAH ok 65 beats a 450 HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH YOU ARE A FUCKING IDIOT

  • i was there and watched it you fucking moron plus it was a small track

  • haha that little 125 is just runnin away

  • si señoor arriba las 125 jaja q fieraa!!

  • great fuckn race right there

  • its a short course so 2 strokes are the best bet

  • supercross track? lol....

  • I can explain to anyone who wants why a 2 stroke is powerfull than a 4 stroke of the same size... and it's easy to understand.

  • 4 strokes r pussy. all u need to kno how to do on a 4 is to gas it

  • 2 strokes are way better thats y they race againt higher 4 strokes cus the 2 strokes are faster quicker and wayy better message me if u need to kno if u should ride a 2 stroke cus i have a cr125 with about 3,000 into it and i race

  • Thats a 2 stroke for you. they always come out in front.

  • wow that yz guy got real lucky

  • its a TM, italian bike. not a YZ

  • so freaking cool!!!!!

  • jup, 2stroke are faster, but I like the sound of a 4stroke way more;)

  • 2 strokes could beat 4 strokes ne day!

  • i think they sped up the video a little bite?

  • you see 2 stroke's ain'r for every body !!

  • love 2-stroke 4 strokes sucks

  • that was fun to watch!

  • 2 strokes all the way yo!!!!

  • ha! whatever bro. lol jk.

    i guess it all depends on how you ride the bike. wether a 2 stroke or a 4 stroke

  • well yea but i was just saying 2 strokes all the way cuz im a 2 stroke fan

  • nice to hear a 125 thrashin out

  • I was there, it was a great race. In real live it was much better, it was so nice !ever time you hear that two stoke screeming. He rode it so hard!

  • vivre les 2 temps tabarnac

  • i dont think anybody said anything about rider skill, but a 4 stroke is easyer to ride at race speeds for a long time than a 2 stroke and the powerband is a lot more predictable, easyer to ride on and it basically starts at about 5,000RPM

  • start watching at 4:07 the 2s rider looks behind himself then exists the turn slow as shit so the ktm could pass, he was playing mind games with the ktm guy the whole time, he knew he was gonna win.

  • long live the two stroke

  • two stroke ruuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuleeeesss!!­!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • The tm rider is marco stallman i know him he live in belgium, the nanme of the track is Goes in holland i live in holland to .

  • was that a tm 125

  • yes,2007 tm125

  • the 125cc 2 stroke rider is amazing. look wut he does in the jump at 3:12 he goes in front of him cuz he knows, skill my friend not bike

  • YEEE! 2 T WINS

  • thats not the only reason...its all the riders skill...a pro could be on a 125 2 stroke and kill some dude on a 450 4 stroke...its all the skill

  • The thumper rider screwed himself for following a slower rider into the turn.

  • great race

  • The guy on the 125 was messing with him big time

  • thats was a great battle!

  • that was awesome....tm's are sick bikes too!

  • 2 Strokes!

  • a wise man once said, "there are 2 strokes and then there are 4 JOKES!"

    2 strokes need to come back. Im in love with my 125.

  • its wrong that they are phasing 2 strokes out they sound and smell brilliant, what a awesome ride by that rider on the TM 125 brilliant

  • fantastico....tm 2 tempi per sempre!!

  • i prefer 2 ride 4 strokes jus because wider range of powewr but theres nufin like hittin tye powerband oin a 2 stroke

  • Awesome. 2 strokes rule and always will!!! Those who ride them will always know the difference...

  • what a race #4 had it all along

  • wow haha number 4 dominates no matter what

  • i bet half the crowd gets gassed lol 2 strokes are the only option i think they will dominate again if only factory riders could choose to ride them to promote them but whtaever lol

  • I love watching this :) 2 strokes rule

  • I ride both. The CR 250 is a great bike I find it to be super fast and raw power in the top end. my XR 650 is also a great bike for trail riding (NOT TRACK) It is just to heavy of a bike, the thumper can go slow and low for long peroids of time where the 2 stroke can only do one thing go fast. I love both bikes for different reasons. My buddy's CRF 450 seems to be an unstoppable machine that has power from top to bottom. If I were to get a thumper for racing it would be the new CRF.

  • While rider skill and luck do play a role, 2-strokes are lighter for the same power, making the bike easier to handle, less tiring to ride and more agile. The main reason 2-strokes are tuned for higher rpm is to increase overall power, hence the torque peak. They can be tuned for low rpm torque, but what fun is that?

  • exactly

  • AMEN!

  • yeeeeeeeeeee totally199 you are right 10000000000%......2 stroke rulez 4everrrrr

  • wow that was a hell of a ride

  • long live 2 stokes!

  • four stroke would have won that if the stupid lapper did not get in his way!

  • Glad to see the 2 stroke pull out the win

  • 4 strokes are the weapons of the future any two stroke go up againt a four and the four will blow it out of the water !

  • This shows that a 2 stroke can blow a 4 stroke out of the water

  • you must ride much, lets get on a track and see which is better

  • That race has nothing to with 4 stroke or 2 stroke the best rider won bottom line (but the 2 stroke still won) lol

  • 2 strokes 4 ever. PLZ let the people choice what they want to ride

  • Message to honda ,yamaha, suzuki ,kawasaki factories - we love 2 strokes, so don´t make only fucking 4stroke tractors, we love classic mx ,fmx ,supercross...with classic mx bikes. 2Strokes forever!

  • now hopefully he has upgraded to a four strooke an is even qwiker

  • hell yeah! 2-strokes all the way! leave 4-strokes 4 old ppl.

  • yea lol, that makes me remember back when they were designing and building the yz400f and yz426f, the idea was to give older guys a more mellow more tractable option to compete in the 250 class with. then new kids would go out and buy them and think they were badass because they could handle them.

  • aweome!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1

  • i meant *that's* a 125 my bad

  • keep the 2 strokes i agree

  • That KTM sounds like a fourstroke, too mellow to be a 2. Good battle though

  • Keeep the 2strokes UP! the smoke the shit of tha 4strokes!

  • those are 125's, i have an 06 yz 125

  • What do u mean?? There is just ONE 125cc 2stroke the others r 250 4-strokes...

  • i think he just means "lites class". haha. YEAH 2T!!!

  • haha that was F*cKN SWEET!

  • thats looks more like an arenacross than supercross. its too small to be supercross

  • lol Name calling now are we :) ive raced 250 2 strokes for 20 years now and this is not a 250 pause this 33 sec's into it and you will see the skinny 125 pipe sticking out the front of the engine as the 125's do the 250's have a fatter pipe and its a lot closer to the engine. Lets put this to a vote and we will see what the people think and not just us, let the voting begin :)

  • yup deff. 125

    you can tell just by listening

  • thats a 125, a 250 would be twice as low sounding as that

  • Hey hondacrf guy that was a 125 and if you cant pick that out well i guess you need your ears cleaned out, Go the two strokes :) cool vid by the way.

  • this is really no surprise to me , if u'll remember , 125's almost always ran near the same lap times as the 250's did ,( we're talking real 250's here, not puss 250f's )

  • Wow, you guys are stupid. I know what I'm talking about, I've heard these bikes for years, and I know what they sound like. There's no way a 125 sounds that deep-pitch, and same with a 250f.

  • it was a 125 that beat a 250f

  • That's not a 125, it's a 250 2 stroke, and the others are 450f's.

  • It is a 125, look at the pipe, and engine is far to high pitched.

  • No, it's a 250, I know that pitch.

  • u don't know ur ass from 3rd base if u think that is a 250 2 stroke

  • im a 2 stroke rider and always will be. the 4 srokes are twice the cc's for a reason.

    THEY ARE STRETCHED OUT FARTMOBILES!!!!

  • Heck ya go dude on the YZ125.

  • yea! go 2 stroke power!! kick ass

  • 2 strokes are the best. 2 STROKE POWER!

  • YOU GOD DAMN RIGHT THEY R!!

  • Great battle. The guy that won can turn on a dime.

  • looked like the 250f kept catching up in the whoops, since they have longer gears, yet the 125 rider got him everywhere else, nice!