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  • sivas kangal most power dog killer pitbull, presa canario, of all dogo argentino, bully kuta, lion tiger ............... pastor de anatolia kurdis kangal 100kg 90cm the best dog

  • You are beautiful !!!!!!!

  • ese perro impone respeto solo al verlo ,,,, si eso no es belleza animal ¿entonces una hiena es bella? todos tienen belleza esos perros van como casi todos los perros con su dueño a muerte pero creo que este un poquito más ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, historias de las canarias..

    saludos

  • וואו! זה היה מרגש!

    אצלנו הם נקראים 'כלבים מסוכנים' - לפי החוק,

    ורוצים שהגזעים האלו יכחדו.

  • anyone know of any good breeders?

  • tell me what size they get please! weight and height is all i need to know

  • mean looking dog

  • wwwooooooooow this breed is so strong why do the people say that pit bull is strongest dog when a presa canario can F*ck in A** more than two pit bulls in one only fight

  • El mejor perro ke existe, ninguno como EL, en mi familia siempre se han tenido presas y puedo decir con mucha experiencia ke es el mejor animal ke se puede tener, noble,cariñoso,guardian,juguet­on,amante de los pekeños de la casa, fiel a su familia hasta la muerte...y no terminaria nunca de hablar solo maravillas de este animal ,y como buen canario se lo ke es tener un BUEN PRESA CANARIO

  • thx for the great pictures! since one week I am the proud owner of this type of dog... he's not a pure bred presa, the mother is a presa and the father is a pitbull... he looks more like a presa though, it's a beautiful dog, now 9 weeks old and already 10 kilo.

    I will post a video later...

  • @lunol07 obviamente que es segun tu opinion, ya que se ve que no tiene ningun criterio.

  • @placidotrato Si posee criterio, el mio, ademas sobre gustos nada se ha escrito, es muy subjetivo y a mi este perro no me gusta y punto!

  • @Ssandra2 They can live fot about 13 or 14 years old, like most of the dogs, and they do not have much problems, they are "easy" dogs.

  • Wow those were all great looking dogs

  • lòl_ánY_gÛys_wåñt_tÒ_chÅt_wíth­_mè

  • ola merece la pena?? esque me encanta pero no me puedo permitir gastar mucho en un perro :S

    

  • @parry800 claro que merece la pena, este perro es super fiel, protector y tierno con sus dueños, no es para nada peligroso (excepto para los no-invitados). Te lo recomiendo muy en serio.

  • @placidotrato clarito y sabiamente haz hablando hermano desde gran canaria saludos 

  • ola merece la pena?? esque me encanta pero no me puedo permitir gastar mucho en un perro :S

  • 1:8 esa MUJER ES CHIKITA OL EL PERO ES GIGANTE

  • ui que monos tube un presa canario que si lhamava SOPHIE la tia era un tanque luego tube a COLIN muy elegante pero sufria de esmanosis...la PIRATA jejejej mas divertida y ahora tengo un principe que si lhama SAM RHEMO es el perrito mas cariñoso y guapo que yo tube nunca pesa 60 kilos e puro musculos y plazer le quiero un montom ES PURO AMOR

  • holy shit! grab my cat

  • kangalı tek geçerimm

  • i love this dogs,but they are very,very expensive in my country the prices go from 700 euros for a male dog

  • Two of these dogs ate a lesbian in San Fransisco several years ago. True story. Google it. I think the ladies name was Diane Whipple or something. Apparently you can feed these dogs lesbians. Or Purina.

  • @jackstrawfrmwchta >>>> I think your comment regarding Lesbians is just a bigoted joke?? I don't see how you can do justice to this video with this remark. These dogs are very powerful ,protective K9 & need to be owned responsibly. Are you just trying to be FUNNY? Some people that read this stuff don't know any better. BTW The best is Feed Raw... Krapple - Kibble is nothing but grain disgusting by products. Feeding Raw requires dedication anyone can pour 2 cups of Kibble 2x's a day & walk away.

  • @NJKane I agree with you. Kibble is crap, nothing but disgusting by products. Much better to feed them lesbians.

  • i saw a few of them that are from Alpha Omega kennels !

  • well i live in louisville and i own one and he is a great pet i love him and great with my kids and yes they are rare dog and good dog to have but if you dont know how to train one and handle it then you dont need one and they can be a=hard to train but if youi show him who is boss at a young age he will respect you and protect you. 

  • @crystal1679 what kennel did ya get him from ?

  • ME GUSTA MATAR PERROS JAJAKAJAKAKJAJ!!!

  • yo tengo uno y es de las mejores razas junto con el fila bracilero !!!

  • they aren't meant to have around kids because of how they could attack them if they wanted to and if they feel threatened

  • @hitmybaby their very tollreant of childern actully nut should be watched by adults like any dog should be.

  • @hitmybaby thats y u train and have hem around kids as soon as there old enough and have them answer to every one in the family exspeccially the kids

  • Look at the second picture's fucking veins!! :O

  • are these dogs rare

  • @9250159 yes but don't get one because of their ability to latch on to their victims and kills them.

  • ESTA MÚSICA REFLEJA LA NOBLEZA DEL PRESA CANARIO, ESTE PERRO ES LETAL POR LAS MALAS Y POR LAS BUENAS DEJA DORMIR EN SU BARRIGA A UNOS 5 GATOS, ES INCREIBLE. ES D ELOS PERROS MÁS CARIÑOSOS QUE JAMÁS HE VISTO JUNTO CON EL PASTOR ALEMÁN Y EL BULLDOG INGLÉS.

  • @combatesdeboxeo ¿SABIAS QUE LOS ANTEPASADOS DE ESTOS PERROS TAMBIEN ESTUVIERON EN LA CONQUISTA DE AMERICA ? TIENES RAZON SON LEALES CARIÑOSOS PERO UFFFFFFF LETALES.

    SALUDOS

  • yo tengo un presa canario un exemplar que e comprado en sabadaell es mi quarto perito y es PURO AMOR Y CARIÑO a parte que es todo un campeon,LOS PERROS NO SON MALOS,MALOS SON LOS DUEÑOS QUE NO LO SABEM ENTRENARLOS

  • @LUANBARCELONA TOTALMENTE DE ACUERDO ES PURO AMOR Y CARIÑO, SOLAMENTE SACA SU SANGRE ( POR SUERTE O DESGRACIA LLEVA PITBULL,OLD ENGLISH BULLDOG Y PASTOR MAJORERO EN ELLA) CONTRA EXTRAÑOS HOSTILES.

  • @combatesdeboxeo Y ALANOS , DOGO ESPAÑOLES , ETC,,,,  CREO QUE DE ESTOS LLEVAN MAS SANGRE

    SALUDOS

  • cruel to cut their ears off only dick heads do tat to makem look hard leave them alone you wouldnt cut your kids ears off would ya

  • very good dogs very beautiful very strong must have very strong owner to keep one. and i dont mean physical strong i mean strong willed 

  • Me gusta mucho este perro!!!

    Es hermoso!!!

  • all american bullies. nothing but backyard trash.

  • @sslayerr wat r u talkin about this r presa `s baby ioo% presa`s get ur eyes checked this aint no fatt bully this r presas.

  • hahaha your so fucken dumb

  • yo creo q al contrario, la popularidad crece y crece dia a dia...tengo mi tercer presa y es de lo mejor

  • they remind me of boerboels on steroids

    sry for my english

  • akita rules this kind of dog have one 70 lbs ownes every dog here in mine naberhood atleast 12 of this dogs two atakt me the docktor made good money mine got nothing dogs that look like the hulk are not the best figthing dogs far less take a look at turkish sheppard dog dont look like the hulk but it is dutch sheppards to hope you understand that if you talk shit here about the are nr1 read and learn before you tolk shit

  • my kinda dog!

  • la mentalidad de las personas con el tiempo suele cambiar y yo espero qe sea asi porqe animales tan ermosos como estos perros y otras rrazas semejantes sean discriminados por ser animales potencial mente peligroso me parece una tonteria la culpa no es de los animales sino de sus criadores qe no supieron educar al animal y aora razas como esta y una qe es muy apresiada pormi qe son los APBT sean discriminados de esa manera me parece penoso 

  • out of all the dogs..presa canarios are most beast looking.

    ive seen a presa canario crossed with a mastiff...

    and well...its a monster xD!

  • presas canario en méxico?

  • @kiizhOo Es lo unico que encontre, parece ser un criadero, quizas la noticia sea un poco antigua pero nose si de verdad estas interesados en ellos, contacta con esta persona, los presas de las fotos son muy buenos. Buena suerte y cuentame como te ha ido ;D De paso, al enlace añade la "h" del principio k no me dejan colgar enlaces

    ttp://monterrey.olx.com.mx/pre­sa-canario-dogo-canario-cachor­ros-con-pedigree-internacional­-iid-5368612

  • @placidotrato estuve intentando pero me decía que la página estaba fuera de servicio por el momento (que resulto ser todo el tiempo que lo estuve intentando), si realmente me interesa esta raza, por ser una raza tan completa, a decir verdad,al igual que tu, supongo por haberte tomado el tiempo de hacer este video, soy cinófilo. Aunque los perros que más me gustan son los molosos.

  • @kiizhOo Pues este es un buen moloso, ya que podríamos decir que es como la mezcla entre un pitbull y un mastiff. Merece la pena porque es de tamaño como un moloso, más potente que un pitbull, fiel como un pastor aleman y activo como un pastor belga, a la vez tranquilo claro. En mi opinión este perro bien educado es el perro perfecto, aunque este tiene tendencia a morder a los desconocidos, pero a la familia jamás.

  • @placidotrato Y en mi opinión, la tendencia a morder alos desconocidos es perfecto, pues hablamos de un perro de trabajo, de guarda, de protección, malo sería que esto fuera en un caniche, pero cada raza tiene su propósito.

  • i am a lover of wolves but these are beautiful dogs... the song fits them well.

  • donde pedo coseguir uno me encantan soy de cd isla veracruz mexico

  • i'd hate to describe these dogs like this,

    but they're fucking gangster.

  • es lo mismo presa canario que dogo canario? tengo un dogo canario con rottweiler tiene mucha fueza pero no ladra y solo kiere comer y dormir tiene 1 mes mas o menos. es normal que no ladre??? y se comporta como si tubiera 10 dias xd es normal espero tu respuesta :)

  • presa looks so much better without its ears clipped.. with the ears clipped they look ugly in my oppinion

  • The dog at 1:38 is without a doubt the sickest looking animal i have ever seen......LOOK AT THE FUKIN SIZE OF ITS HEAD

  • @phillipsqazxsw Yes, that is a pure presa, sorry if there are no more pictures like that dog

  • yo tengo un presa canario con rotweiler tengo 5 cachorros quien le interese llame al 685943593 soy de españa barcelona

  • nice dog..

  • In regards to the Diane Whipple tragedy, that was awful yes, but keep in mind those dogs that attacked her were poorly bred, poorly trained animals with crappy, unstable temperment and stupid, irresponsible owners. They in no way reflect the nature of a true Presa. I own both a Presa and a Cane Corso and these dogs are in no way appropriate for an inexperienced, first time owner. Anytime you mix a powerful dog and a moron human it will be a recipe for disaster.

  • @vegas2990 Aaaah, there we go. A voice of reason and somebody who understands a breed like this. Good man!!!

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  • presa rulzzzzzzzz

  • que musica lixo

  • cuando yo hablo de el dogo hablo de el original, el antiguo de blanco y negro, antes de ser cruzado y creado el presa moderno, yo sé que se lo renombró dogo, pero ami eso no me interesa, para mí el presa canario es presa canario , un perro con sangre de pelas PESE A QUIÉARON LOS INSTINTOS DEL PITBULL O EL OLD ENGLISH BULLDOG.N PESE.

  • @rannnntanplan13 Y DENTRO DEL CRUCE HAY PRESAS ACTUALES CON CASI TODOS LOS RASGOS DEL DOGO ORIGINAL, MARRÓN ALTO, GRANDE Y TRANQUILO.Y NO SON NERVIOSOS COMO LOS EJEMPLARES QUE HERED

    (cuando dije el dogo antiguo de blanco y negro me refiero a las imagenes y relatos antiguos sobre este perro, no me refería a su color).

  • @rannnntanplan13

    NO SON NERVIOSOS COMO LOS EJEMPLARES QUE HEREDARON EL INSTINTO DEL ANTIGUO PITBULL O EL OLD ENGLISH BULLDOG

  • Preciosos...

  • Try is bite? Did you mean try its bite? Why would I do that? That wouldn't make anymore sense than having a truck run over my cock to see if it hurts or not.

  • SI SEÑOR, PERRO DE MI TIERRA, ESTE PERRO LE DA POR EL CULO A EL PITBULL LO QUE QUIERE.

    the presa canario would kill pitbull any day in the week.

  • I don't really care for the look of these dogs. They look too muscle bound to lick their own ass.

  • @tremooloo they are strong yes, try is bite and then tell me

  • @placidotrato hahaha good answer, agree

  • unfortunately some of these canarios in the pictures have been mistreated with steroids. They are a fantastic breed with ultra high K9 intelligence with a natural urge to protect their home and family.

  • @tremooloo that was just sooooo funny. do you write your own material?

  • theyre so beautiful and i feel protected if i got a couple of these darlings ..but it could also drain my savings, they're quite expensive to buy and their maintance .. oh dear !

  • awesome dogs, my dogo is now 5 month old and the best in the world :))

    thx for the clip, good work <3

  • @LokiCybertar dogo canario is not presa canario, is other dog, the dogo is taller, but the presa is stronger. i am from canary islands

  • @rannnntanplan13 jajajajajaja you are crazy man, pesa canario is the same of dogo canario, the different is that presa is a name that was used when this dog was a fight dog, but the name had to change, the FCI said to, so that's why there ara two names

  • @placidotrato mmm you are very wrong, repeat... im from canary islands

  • @rannnntanplan13 Hola, te hablo en castellano porque tu dices que eres canario, yo soy de Gran Canaria y te aseguro que hace muchos años el Gobierno de Canarias hizo que se cambiase el nombre por la mala reputación que da el nombre de Presa, el Presa y el Dogo es el mismo perro los dos están mezclados con el Bardino de Fuerteventura y el Bardino no es un perro de presa es un perro ganadero o guardian y en lo único que se parecen al Bardino es en el color. Un saludo

  • @Albertosky1 Exactamente, eso es lo que queria decir pero no se expresarme muy bien en ingles, presa y dogo son el mismo perro, y el bardino es de donde bienen en parte, aunque esta raza esta practicamente extinguida, y el presa lo tubieron que mezclar entre razas como mastines, pitbulls... pero sigue siendo una gran raza y que por pena para nosotros en nuestra isla ya no se ven tantos como antes, la gente quiero perros de raza "popular"

  • @placidotrato Te aconsejo que pases de darles mas explicaciones, yo lo he intentado en otras páginas en inglés y en castellano pero siempre esta el enterado que se cree que lo sabe todo. Fíjate en otras páginas del propio Youtube y hay mucho que hasta dicen que ya están extinguidos. Lo que hay que oír. Saludos ah otra cosa, el vídeo esta de cojones, muy bien currado y la música igual.

  • @Albertosky1 es que realmente el enterado y equivocado eres tú, el señor placido está en lo cierto, el presa tiene sangre de los antiguos pitbulls y los originales bulldog ingleses, el presa canario actual es una mezcla de multiples razas con el objetivo de crear un perro de peleas, si me niegas eso apaga y vámonos.

  • @rannnntanplan13 Pero que pesado eres tío, ¿quien ha dicho que el Presa o Dogo no esté mezclado con el Pitbull o Bulldog etc? Yo lo único que he dicho es que su principal y mas importante mezcla fue la hecha con el Bardino y tampoco he dicho que no sea un perro de pelea, todos los perros tienen el instinto de pelea. Ahora si te digo que el dueño del perro es el que puede hacer del animal una buena o mala mascota y ahora apaga y vámonos.

  • @Albertosky1 jajaaj menuda demagogia barata hiciste, pero que parida es esa de todos los perros tienen instinto de peleas, unos perros son razas de peleas y otro no, simplmente, si no pon un caniche a pelear, lo que pasa es que te las diste de enterado y no sabes de la misa la mitad.

  • @placidotrato precisamente la popularidad acaba con este tipo de perros, algo muy lamentable

  • @kiizhOo Cierto, las razas de perros populares son las que quiere todo el mundo, no digo que sean malas razas porque de ser asi no serian populares, pero en general la gente tiene un mal punto de vista sobre estos perros como el presa. Pero bueno, por lo menos los pocos que los tenemos los disfrutamos.

  • @kiizhOo yo creo q la popularidad esta creciendo

  • @Albertosky1

    el presa canario fue cruzado con el pastor majorero con el old english bulldog, pitbullterriers... perros de peleas a principio del siglo veinte, y el presa dominó las peleas hasta que se prohibieron en españa, en los años setenta se recuperó la raza otra vez, el presa es un perro con sangre de peleas, el original dogo canario era un perro de guarda y auxiliar carnicero, el actual tiene sangre de peleas.

  • @rannnntanplan13 Mira payaso (te llamo así porque es como tu mismo te llamas) deja de comerme el coco y coge un diccionario y lee primero lo que significa instinto. Cualquier perro se pelea con cualquier otro perro pero eso no quiere decir que le vaya a ganar pero así y todo su instinto lo lleva a defenderse y pelear, yo se que el Presa o Dogo canario ya nace con el por eso te dije que el dueño es el responsable de como salga su mascota y ahora dejate de demagogia. Ah tengo 2 Presas o Dogos

  • @Albertosky1 tu limitada inteligencia te hace entrar en faltas personales, suele ser la salida de alguien sin respuesta, obviamente ese canal es una parodia a otra persona, no es sobre mí.

  • @Albertosky1 Querido amigo:

    El bardino no existe,es un color de el manto del pastor majorero lo que ocurre es que se le decia bardino a el perro en si cuando realme te es el color.

    Un saludo y con mis años de edad te aseguro que es tan cierto como que soy tambien de las islas.

  • @Amazig1 hola , se puede decir que el presa es un dogo ¿verdad? de los dogos castellanos y presas de burgos , utilizados en la conquista de america por su lealtad nobleza , con su dueño(conquistadores ) lo he estudiado.Por que antes de la conquista de las islas no existian perros aqui.

  • @artillero509 tambien se utilizaron aqui , o es una mescla  con algún perro aborigen , lo que esta claro que ese osico es de un dogo , claramente ,,, vease el dogo argentino familia clara.

  • @placidotrato its tru that you said on the change of the name, but the pure presa or (bardino) is other dog. the original dogo is a dog guard, the presa is a fighter.

  • @placidotrato Is true the presa and dogo is the same dog I´m from Gran Canaria but still lots of people think they are diferents dogs

  • Amazing animal....

  • anti burglar security pet :)

  • me encanta esta raza, es de mis favoritas SIMPLEMENTE PRECIOSOS

    I love this race, my favorite is JUST PRECIOUS

  • I love mine. These dogs are basically beefed up pits. Very strong in the upper quarters and have solid hinds. Very loyal to its owner of raised from an early age. Can be overprotective and stealthy on attack if you consider that a downside. They have the sweetest and softest candor. But do not cross them.

  • looks like a pit bull

  • o:30 ese da hasta miedo

  • es un animal increible... aunke no me gustaria para nada toparme con uno de estos cuando vengo de camino a mi casa por la noche... haha

  • presa isnt a fighting dog dumb ass

  • Beautiful dogs number one.....

  • 1:29 HOLY SHIT !

  • good video :) what is the name of song?

  • waaaaaaaaaaa3

  • dont know much about dogs but that is a MACHO looking animal.... these are like the bodybuilders of the dog world

    really wide shoulders muscles everywhere

  • Beautiful breed.I have a dog currently but after he passes years from now,this is my next choice of breed.

  • these dogs and pit bulls have gotten a bad wrap over the yrs and us as humans have away if somthing goes wrong with anything that we like we r quik to destroy. be fore you talk about these dogs first look at what dogs were breed for"war"police dogs rott's dobermans,all dogs bred for one perpuse to kill .....sorry if i mis spelled some

  • Presa was create in the canaries for protection and for carry the sheeps, also for fighting another dogs, specially presas, becouse no other dogs like pitbulls or rottweiler could with them.

    But know they don't fight, they ar the best family dogs, always near you to protect and help, love boys... The best!

  • @placidotrato presa is not a fighting dog only pitbulls and bull terries

  • Are these dogs still bred on the canary islands?

  • If several farmers engaged in this race so pretty

  • Of course, there are a lot and very good presas, the best in the worl are in the canary islands.

    Presas canarios are very family dogs, protective... they have never bite someone they grown with. They are the best guardians.

  • The first time I saw one of these remarkable dogs was at a high end antique shop in Philadelphia. Her name was "Baby" and she was the protector of the store. I was advised not to pet her, but she was truly beautiful and well behaved. That's when I fell in love with this breed! This breed should NOT be banned, since it is the way they are raised that determines their agressiveness. Thanks for this great video!

  • They look like giant pit bulls

  • but theay are far from theme... theay are beautiful

  • who sings this version of beautiful

  • i think it's james blunt but i'm not sure

  • lol it's the same guy

  • Lovely breed, lovely dogs !!!

  • they look just like pitulls when i first saw one i thought it was a pitbull

  • Killers chihuahuas, jajajajaja..well this is a tale, one guy ask to others: Ho is the owners of a great danes, one guy said: "Me" ok, said the other, mi small chihuahua is killing your Big stupid dog ! "What !, can't be posible ! ?" yes, said the other..your stupid dog atack my litle chihuahua, kill her and treat to eaten but her body struck very bad in his troath, I asume now is already dead..sorry !

  • Like any dog, Presas can be kind and affectionate. But there is a reason why they are oftentimes referred to as pitbulls on steroids. Keep in mind that this is the breed of dog that killed a girl in San Francisco a few years ago. The owners insisted in their trial that the dogs were as nice as could be, and tried (unsuccessfully) to place the blame for the attack on the girl they killed. They can be good dogs, but if you want one, then know what you are getting into.

  • ok, but a chihuaua kill a baby, a golden retriever too... there have been a lot of cases like that. What i am sure of if that a presa have never bite one of his family, that girl of san francisco was not known by the dog, a presa will always give his life for his house and family

  • There have been a lot of cases where chihuauas have killed people???? Are you serious? Fine....prove your statement by posting a URL here of just one newspaper report of a chihuaua killing someone. As to the SFO killing, the girl WAS known to the two dogs. Her name was Diane Whipple, and the two dogs went at her for five minutes. When they were done the only uninjured parts of her body were her scalp and feet. Apologize for the dogs all you want, but never assume that they are "safe" dogs.

  • not a lot of course, a chihuaua killed a baby, becouse they are very agresive, but very small. Every dog can be dangerous, it depends of how as he been trained, a presa could be dangerous, a bulldog too, it depends of the training!!

  • On the subject of chihuauas being people killers, not providing anything to back up your statement, tends to discredit what you say. I am NOT calling you a liar....anything is possible. But if you want me to believe your statement, then show me something to back it up. :)

    Given the feisty nature of chihuauas, its probably a good thing that they are so tiny. Otherwise human beings might have some competition for being at the top of the food chain.

  • On the subject of training, I agree, but only up to a point. Most dogs are bread for a specific purpose....Shepherds to herd sheep, daschunds to go after badgers, etc. Presas were bred and used for two purposes. One, to guard and work with cattle, and two, to hunt wild boar, which are about as nasty a critter as you can get. They can be "gentle giants", but are BY NATURE very dominant "alpha" dogs, and therefore tend to be very agressive, even with good, expert training & handling.

  • jajajaja, to hunt bears jaja, you should know that presa was create in the canary islands, in where I live, and there are no bears, no fuckiing one, so don't say if you don't know. Presas are originally from canary islands, mixed with the majorero, a dog very old create in the canary islands too. You were right before in all cases, but in this no, presa was bornt to be a shepherd, guard, protection and fighting dog.

  • I did not say "bear"....I said "Boar" as in wild pigs, which some sources indicate may have been hunted to extinction in the Canary Islands, but you would know more about that than me. Generations of these dogs were bred specifically as fighting dogs. Every expert on the breed that I have investigated makes the point that they are still very inherently agressive. With males weighing in at 130 lbs, their fighting dog nature makes them FAR more dangerous to own than any "killer chihuaua".

  • What "experts" on the breed are you speaking of? Red Star Kennel in the US has been training and trialing with these dogs for 13 plus years. They spoke on 20/20 shortly after the Whipple incident and they were visited by the program American Justice to get more info on the breed. I'd say they would be more qualified to speak about the breed than anybody you've spoken with. Again animal aggression and human aggression are 2 different things. Also look hard at the owners not the breed!!

  • @placidotrato Dude, to hunt BOAR not Bear. LOL

  • @placidotrato presa isnt a fighting dog dumb ass

  • They are NOT "very aggressive". They are actually laid back and excellent in the home. I am on my second presa. The 1st was trained and titled in Protection sports. (PSA). He was great with people, but not friendly with other dogs. Usually males, but sometimes females too. Presas were farm guardians as you said and used for dog fighting. They were not really created for boar hunting, even though they do it. Great dogs, I love them. Oh, BTW he's right about chihuauas. Nasty little things!

  • The facts say otherwise. Presas were historically bred as fighting dogs, just like its smaller cousin the pit bull which accounted for over 60% of fatal dog attacks in the USA in 2007. According to experts, fighting breeds pose a unique danger because 1) they fail to communicate intention. There is rarely a growl, bark or direct stare before an attack. 2) they are bred for delivering a "sustained attack." resulting in catastrophic injury. Example: the Diane Whipple attack previously cited.

  • Experts in what? Are you serious? Dog aggression and human aggression are 2 COMPLETELY different things. Case & point. True game bred pit bulls were actually man friendly as they were to be handled and separated by strangers during a pit match and it was undesirable to have them human aggressive. Read any book by Diane Jessup, an animal conservation officer, about pit bulls. I've been working with presas for over 10 years. Its NOT their natural characteristic. The reports are flawed by media!

  • Again, THE FACTS say otherwise. They currently represent only a tiny fraction of the overall canine population, yet of all dogs in the USA they are already rated #8 in fatal HUMAN attacks, including one where the Presa killed its owner/handler. As early as 1624 the authorities on the Canary Islands recognized the harm these dogs were causing and limited them to one per home. Two of its close cousins are even banned in the UK. Apologize for them all you want, but those are the FACTS.

  • People do not report the bites by labs and other dogs and they never get the media attention. No apology needed. You stated the dogs were naturally aggressive. That is simply false. Period. A dog left to roam will become a problem. When are people going to realize its the owners and in some cases the breeders that create problem animals. The breed description of a presa states its a calm animal suspicious of strangers. Again having, owned trained and competed with them for 10 years I know.

  • DUH! Of course irresponsible owners and breeders are a big part of the problem with overly agressive breeds of dogs! But what you are ignoring is the fact that some dogs--Presas being one of them--have CENTURIES of agressive behavior bred into them. I would love to be wrong on this, but again, all of the FACTS about these dogs point to an animal that is still so close to its genetic roots that the potential for harm is far to high for it to be thought of as "safe"

  • Oh boy,,,you still don't get it. You are equating dog/dog aggression with dog/human aggression. The FACT is they are NOT the same. Your "facts" are not from experts. They are from "reported" dog bite stats. The circumstances and geographics are not entered into it. Its just "a bite". Hard to convince you otherwise. That's OK. Again I own a presa and a pit bull. Also have them around young children. There is 0 aggression. Its the rule not the exception. Other dogs? I agree, not dog friendly.

  • Maybe you should explain your definition of "aggression". The breed does NOT seek out people to bite. The mastiff in their make up actually keeps them quite mellow compared to a GSD, Mal or border collie. And for the most part they don't seek out other dogs to fight. Some do more than others. If you break into my home will you be bitten? Yes. Which is what I would want. There are only a limited number that are good enough for protection trials. Many are not good at it. Further proving my point.

  • I would define canine aggression as behavior that deviates from normal canine behavior. The "rules" of this dominance game are very nearly universal among all canines. They will "posture" as a means of establishing dominance, and in the rare instances where they fight, they usually end fairly quickly because of another remarkable survival characteristic--win or lose, stop before you risk further injury. As stated in a post below, fighting dogs give no warning and do not stop.

  • You know little about the bull breeds. Again dog/dog aggression and dog/human aggression are totally different. The fighting breeds are normal and like any dog they put on displays and give warnings. Less then 5% of anything today is truly game bred. If you want to learn go to RedStarKennel web page,and or read Manuel Curto's book about presas. As for pit bulls, read the book by Colby that was CO authored by Diane Jessup. Those are your experts on pits and presas. Your info is simply wrong.

  • Are you referring to the Red Star Kennel which lists INTENSE FIGHT DRIVE as a characteristic for one of the dogs listed on their front page? Look, I know that you love these dogs, but no matter how you try to spin the facts, your own references keep tripping you up. It is precisely the "intense fight drive" which makes these dogs fundamentally dangerous to people and to other, less endowed dogs. Answer me this....why did USA sales of this breed skyrocket after Dianne Jessup was ripped apart?

  • BTW, you might want to check out the website for Irema Curto Kennels on the Canary Islands. Its about the best source of info I have seen on Pressas, particularly their excellent, and surprisingly detailed overview of the history of Pressas. I would give a URL but I think youtube filters them out.

  • I've seen ALL of the websites. I train at Red Star Kennel. You didn't read any further than the front page did you? How bout the videos? See any mauling of innocent people? My friend in CA. has a certified therapy presa. She visits trauma victims with her protection trained presa. Its obvious you are lacking in knowledge of training and K-9 behavior. Every breed has bad apples. Maybe you and lots of others can't handle a working breed no matter what it is. Thats ok. Just don't bash them.

  • Like any breeder would post videos of these dogs dark side! Oh please!

    If these dogs are the gentle giants that you would like some to believe, then why use words like INTENSE FIGHT DRIVE?

    You also never answered my question...why sales jumped after the Whipple killing. Quoting.."The exact kind of person who should not have a Presa Canario are now the ones asking about it" said Irina Vyatkin co-owner of Red Star Kennel in Hudson Wis. "We have people who want weapons -- not dogs."

  • Man, you are slow. I explained fight drive to you. You don't understand it. It isn't used in relation to dog fights. Its the effort a dog uses to complete a task, no matter the task. Who cares why sales jumped. Idiots are idiots. not my problem. Answer your question? Good luck with your drama crusade to bash a breed. You spew a few stats and blind yourself to the true majority of the breed population. These are working dogs, responsible people should own them. They are great animals.

  • amen

  • BTW I love how you mis quote Irina about the weapons not dog line. Those are the exact people she will not sell these dogs to. Lets try to keep the facts straight. A responsible person that wants to own and train a presa will do just fine. It all comes down to the owner and good breeding practices. This holds true with any breed. To me, it sounds like you are against working dog period. If you knew anything, you'd know a Mal or solid GSD would be more of a challenge. They have higher drive.

  • Actually, I agree with you on the training and breeding aspect. But like most breed apologists, instead of dealing with the issues you attack people who disagree with you. In this case, you hold up your "expertise" as a trainer and say that I don't know anything about dogs. Tell me......have you ever owned and trained a SchH 1 dog? I have, and my present dog only has to complete the run to reach SchH 3. I think the thousands of hours invested qualify me to render an opinion on dog behavior.

  • I actually have a titled PSA dog. The OB is the same as SCH extremely strict. If you fail OB you don't get to the protection. The protection portion usually washes the SCH dogs because of the pressure. My friends involved with presas have SCH level 1 titles on more than one of their dogs. We have French ring dogs brevet and level 1 and Mondio titled dogs. I'm not a trainer. You are attacking a breed and stating incorrect info and generalizing. Its surprising since you seem to work dogs. Sad

  • Congrats on the PSA...I know how much work is involved in getting that. I may do PSA once my dog earns SchH 3. He could easily handle the higher level of "distractions", but I am not sure I can. :)

    So what should we debate now? Which is better----PSA or Schutzhund?

  • No, I think SCH is waaay more involved with the tracking. You'll do fine in PSA. The entry level is the hardest for the dog pressure wise. Presas, most, aren't interested in level 2 or 3. They lack the prey drive of the herding breeds for the much longer routine. Mals and GSD's are better for ring sports as a whole. But we love the pressure in PSA 1 and have beaten out herders. At one time or another we've passed every exercise with distinction. I should add my boy died last March. Miss him.

  • You have my deepest sympathy. One lesson that I learned many years ago was taught to my by my present dog's predicessor. HIS predicessor was an incredible dog, and when I lost him and got the other I kept wanting the new one to be just like the other. But it was as if he asked me, that if I would love him on HIS OWN merits, he would be the best dog imaginable. And he was. And now my present dog is. So don't hold back on getting another. You have too much love to give to let it go to waste

  • Hey, thanks! The good news is we do have a 4 month old grandson of the old boy. The pedigree says good worker, we'll see. Our pit, just wasn't a good worker for protection. Great OB, but not a good 1 for man work. She is just a pet now. Here's what's funny about this whole thing. I'd have a hard time owning a GSD or mal. They are too active and busy 4 me. Presas tend to be lazy, not dead lazy but easy around the home because of the mastiff blood. Good dogs for the right folks. Good luck 2U.

  • What is upsetting is you of all people being a working dog enthusiast says what you say about a breed in general. I imagine I could say ALL of this about GSDs and Rotties. Which were the culprits years ago. If you train and breed for working ability you NEED a hard dog. That does not = unstable. As I stated way back. Its NOT the breed its the owner or bad breeding. As a whole the MAJORITY of presas and pits are good dogs. Sad you don't see or agree with that point. Wait til its you breed again

  • I have never said that "all" presas are "bad". My point all along has been that they have a lot of agressive behavior that has been bred into them. And with their breed standards calling for weights significantly higher than a smaller breed (such as a pit) there is a whole lot more kinetic energy coming after you if something goes haywire. Its like a .30 cal round vs a 20mm round. When you see what these guys can do, common sense requires that you be aware of the potential for danger.