I have to add, in addition to the utilitarian arguments against the drug war - the cost, the harm done, the lives ruined, the corruption - there is the issue of liberty. There is the principle of self ownership and the acceptance of the absurd notion that you or I or anyone else has the right to tell others what they may or may not ingest. It is absurd to call the US a free society when we do not even accept the notion of self ownership. The motives behind the drug war are evil.
Ive seen this video many times before but this version is edited.
The part removed is where the retired cop tells students that the Drug War is racial oppression. He says that due to the drug war the US imprisons 4x more Black men per 100,000 than the imprisonment that happened in APARTHEID SOUTH AFRICA.
Why has that segment been removed from the middle?
ALL drugs should be treated like alcohol.if drugs were legal all of a sudden they lose so much power and actually have to do their job right.those for prohibition love the power they have to cage you.with no prohibition they have to do real police work and thats too hard and dangerous.it takes skill to investigate real crimes...
i think any man-made drug is bound to screw things up. so i vote keep those illegal. i for one dont like being around ppl who are doped up on meth. BUT LEGALIZE MARIJUANA!!!!!
keeping drugs illegal does little more than putting money in the hands of a "black market", i dont do drugs anymore quit years ago, but i dont feel that I or YOU have the right to tell others what they can and cant do with theyr own body and mind, al capone was PRO-prohibition because it made him very very rich, this drug war has CREATED violent and dangerous criminals such as pablo escobar and many others, it helps fund terrorists through the laws against opiates
very true and i agree but theres also truth to my point of view. people do very crazy things when they are on man made chemical drugs such as meth and cocaine. on the other hand they will do even crazier things to get the drugs in the first place. weed and shrooms shud be the only drugs that exist. except maybe acid/LSD
people also do plenty of crazy (often self destructive and fatal) things on alchohol, And i myself have done some very "crazey" things on LSD and mushrooms, so how then can you discount all the others based on your personal preferances? the point of my arguement isnt PRO drug its ANTI black market , as the man in the video said you get people to quit or abstain by EDUCATION and information, not by making things illegal
when you make a nonviolent crime illegal, you still create REAL criminals. via blackmarket and prison, im NOT saying you should go out and try all these things thats a matter of personal choice but i for one am damn sure not going to tell someone else that they cant themselves to do so would be purely hypocritical , you seem to speak from a point of view of a non user of most chemicals, ive done most and ive never hurt or stolen to get them, though im clean now the black market , far more savage
i see your point. rather than put money in the hands of criminals just educate about it. but on the other hand so much mis-information about marijuana is forced into the young minds of myself and my peers. false negative health effects etc...so i see your point and agree as long as people are educated properly.
friedkittytitty, people are misinformed at the moment because there is a political interest to do so,
the theory goes that if you scare people out of doing drugs, you can perceive that as a political success, even if you lie, the ends justifying the means as it were,
the problem is, when that lie is exposed people stop believing what they are told permanently, that's what happened to me, i found out some of what they said about weed was false and that was it, nothing they said was heeded.
i believe that if it were legal, the political interest in lies would end, because any reduction in drug use would be ultimately attributed to the end of prohibition, if anything, they would want drug use to increase after legalization, because then they could justify there former position,
not only that but independent testing would be allowed because the substances would no longer be prohibited, unlike the system we have now.
@fuckinghellyoutwat just look at holand since amsterdam legalized drug use, crime is down, addiction rates are down and other than the tourists actual drug use is down. they perpetuate the system of demand and suply through violent means by keeping it illegal
Yep the policy creates the violence not the drugs. Imagine if you were an honest drug dealer. (you didn't dilute your drugs or lace them and you cared about who you sold them to) Then someone steals your assets (drugs). What can you do to get them back?
Take them to court?---- no
Ask them nicely?---- hahahaha right or
Get guns and take your assets back?
The drug dealers who thrive in this market don't provide the safest and cheapest product. The drug dealers who thrive are violent.
well the idea of dilution of drugs from a dealers standpoint isnt necesarily a bad one , since people, like with alchohol, may do more than the recomended dose and harm themselves, so many dealers dilute or, cut, theyr products (though most do so to increase weight to inflate theyr profits) the problem is that the people cutting this stuff dont KNOW the bodily reaction of what they are using and its usually worse than the drugs themselves
@RedneckRager I remember reading about the black market alcohol in the 1920's. It was diluted with other solvents and sometimes wood alcohol. Many Chicagoans either became very sick or died as a result. I also remember what my great aunt used to tell me about Prohibition in the 1920's. She was Germany at that time and the newspapers back there would paint a picture of America as a place ruled by gangsters. I'm skeptical when it comes to the media, but not about the ramifications of prohibition.
or worse yet rockynurse the police ARREST your honest drug dealer and they are replaced by several groups fighting over the power vacuum or "profit vacuum" and go about murdering robbing and beating
Its a HORRIBLE policy brought to bear by nixon trying to distract people from a morally questionable war in a foreign country
The problem is, in spite of all the evidence and the incalculable cost of drug prohibition and the drug war, Americans continue to elect people who promote the drug war. We are, apparently, a very stupid people.
In the "bi-partisan" system, i don't think it matters who you vote for. Continuously, people vote for red or blue and always the same outcome. Is it our own stupidity, or just everyone submitting to the system. The system that leaves us, the people, virtually choice less.
That's why i admire these guys. They've stepped away from all of the BS and just say how they feel. And from all the comments i've received it appears a lot of others feel that way too.
the drug war only creates drug cartel violence & many other problems
b4 the drug war when drugs such as heroin, coke, MJ were legal at any pharmacy over the counter, America had 1/10th the drug use it has today.
Our gov't only participates in the drug war knowing that it is a failed concept so they can seize billions of untaxed cash generated by the illegal drug trade.
Our government also imports the very drugs its fighting against (i.e. the gov't plane crash with tons of pure cocaine)
I have to add, in addition to the utilitarian arguments against the drug war - the cost, the harm done, the lives ruined, the corruption - there is the issue of liberty. There is the principle of self ownership and the acceptance of the absurd notion that you or I or anyone else has the right to tell others what they may or may not ingest. It is absurd to call the US a free society when we do not even accept the notion of self ownership. The motives behind the drug war are evil.
dwcarkuff 4 months ago
Ive seen this video many times before but this version is edited.
The part removed is where the retired cop tells students that the Drug War is racial oppression. He says that due to the drug war the US imprisons 4x more Black men per 100,000 than the imprisonment that happened in APARTHEID SOUTH AFRICA.
Why has that segment been removed from the middle?
atlien991 1 year ago
ALL drugs should be treated like alcohol.if drugs were legal all of a sudden they lose so much power and actually have to do their job right.those for prohibition love the power they have to cage you.with no prohibition they have to do real police work and thats too hard and dangerous.it takes skill to investigate real crimes...
nonphixional1 1 year ago
leap is awesome finally some common sense. it takes a real man to admit they were wrong. i respect these guys for stepping up.
nonphixional1 1 year ago
I would like to know if all drugs were legal, where would heroin or meth be sold? How would we prevent a huge increase in drug use?
tarheels303 1 year ago
You don't see most convenience store owners solving their problems with guns do you?
Rockynurse 2 years ago
Search Youtube for HOW WEED WON THE WEST
...featuring Kyle Kazan of LEAP!
watch?v=MzT1a1NKoKM
AmericanDrugWar 2 years ago
i think any man-made drug is bound to screw things up. so i vote keep those illegal. i for one dont like being around ppl who are doped up on meth. BUT LEGALIZE MARIJUANA!!!!!
friedkittytitty 2 years ago
hell to the ya
MasterofDisaster17 2 years ago
keeping drugs illegal does little more than putting money in the hands of a "black market", i dont do drugs anymore quit years ago, but i dont feel that I or YOU have the right to tell others what they can and cant do with theyr own body and mind, al capone was PRO-prohibition because it made him very very rich, this drug war has CREATED violent and dangerous criminals such as pablo escobar and many others, it helps fund terrorists through the laws against opiates
RedneckRager 2 years ago
very true and i agree but theres also truth to my point of view. people do very crazy things when they are on man made chemical drugs such as meth and cocaine. on the other hand they will do even crazier things to get the drugs in the first place. weed and shrooms shud be the only drugs that exist. except maybe acid/LSD
friedkittytitty 2 years ago
people also do plenty of crazy (often self destructive and fatal) things on alchohol, And i myself have done some very "crazey" things on LSD and mushrooms, so how then can you discount all the others based on your personal preferances? the point of my arguement isnt PRO drug its ANTI black market , as the man in the video said you get people to quit or abstain by EDUCATION and information, not by making things illegal
RedneckRager 2 years ago
when you make a nonviolent crime illegal, you still create REAL criminals. via blackmarket and prison, im NOT saying you should go out and try all these things thats a matter of personal choice but i for one am damn sure not going to tell someone else that they cant themselves to do so would be purely hypocritical , you seem to speak from a point of view of a non user of most chemicals, ive done most and ive never hurt or stolen to get them, though im clean now the black market , far more savage
RedneckRager 2 years ago
i see your point. rather than put money in the hands of criminals just educate about it. but on the other hand so much mis-information about marijuana is forced into the young minds of myself and my peers. false negative health effects etc...so i see your point and agree as long as people are educated properly.
friedkittytitty 2 years ago
friedkittytitty, people are misinformed at the moment because there is a political interest to do so,
the theory goes that if you scare people out of doing drugs, you can perceive that as a political success, even if you lie, the ends justifying the means as it were,
the problem is, when that lie is exposed people stop believing what they are told permanently, that's what happened to me, i found out some of what they said about weed was false and that was it, nothing they said was heeded.
fuckinghellyoutwat 2 years ago
i believe that if it were legal, the political interest in lies would end, because any reduction in drug use would be ultimately attributed to the end of prohibition, if anything, they would want drug use to increase after legalization, because then they could justify there former position,
not only that but independent testing would be allowed because the substances would no longer be prohibited, unlike the system we have now.
fuckinghellyoutwat 2 years ago
@fuckinghellyoutwat just look at holand since amsterdam legalized drug use, crime is down, addiction rates are down and other than the tourists actual drug use is down. they perpetuate the system of demand and suply through violent means by keeping it illegal
RedneckRager 1 year ago
@RedneckRager couldn't agree more, want to bet their system? grow your own.
fuckinghellyoutwat 1 year ago
Yep the policy creates the violence not the drugs. Imagine if you were an honest drug dealer. (you didn't dilute your drugs or lace them and you cared about who you sold them to) Then someone steals your assets (drugs). What can you do to get them back?
Take them to court?---- no
Ask them nicely?---- hahahaha right or
Get guns and take your assets back?
The drug dealers who thrive in this market don't provide the safest and cheapest product. The drug dealers who thrive are violent.
Rockynurse 2 years ago
well the idea of dilution of drugs from a dealers standpoint isnt necesarily a bad one , since people, like with alchohol, may do more than the recomended dose and harm themselves, so many dealers dilute or, cut, theyr products (though most do so to increase weight to inflate theyr profits) the problem is that the people cutting this stuff dont KNOW the bodily reaction of what they are using and its usually worse than the drugs themselves
RedneckRager 2 years ago
@RedneckRager I remember reading about the black market alcohol in the 1920's. It was diluted with other solvents and sometimes wood alcohol. Many Chicagoans either became very sick or died as a result. I also remember what my great aunt used to tell me about Prohibition in the 1920's. She was Germany at that time and the newspapers back there would paint a picture of America as a place ruled by gangsters. I'm skeptical when it comes to the media, but not about the ramifications of prohibition.
Nguli34689 1 year ago
or worse yet rockynurse the police ARREST your honest drug dealer and they are replaced by several groups fighting over the power vacuum or "profit vacuum" and go about murdering robbing and beating
Its a HORRIBLE policy brought to bear by nixon trying to distract people from a morally questionable war in a foreign country
RedneckRager 2 years ago
hell yeah
jonafin549 2 years ago
one of the best vids on youtube
AArrrrJJaayyyy 2 years ago
The problem is, in spite of all the evidence and the incalculable cost of drug prohibition and the drug war, Americans continue to elect people who promote the drug war. We are, apparently, a very stupid people.
dwcarkuff 2 years ago
In the "bi-partisan" system, i don't think it matters who you vote for. Continuously, people vote for red or blue and always the same outcome. Is it our own stupidity, or just everyone submitting to the system. The system that leaves us, the people, virtually choice less.
That's why i admire these guys. They've stepped away from all of the BS and just say how they feel. And from all the comments i've received it appears a lot of others feel that way too.
ashluh 2 years ago
@dwcarkuff Yeah Obama was all for it untill he got in. Like Everything else he's done.
Potemtole 1 year ago
the drug war only creates drug cartel violence & many other problems
b4 the drug war when drugs such as heroin, coke, MJ were legal at any pharmacy over the counter, America had 1/10th the drug use it has today.
Our gov't only participates in the drug war knowing that it is a failed concept so they can seize billions of untaxed cash generated by the illegal drug trade.
Our government also imports the very drugs its fighting against (i.e. the gov't plane crash with tons of pure cocaine)
Whiterhin018 2 years ago
Thanx!
Joey6988 3 years ago
AMEN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
ponsuelo420 4 years ago
Excellent video!Bravo!...These guys are so right.Legalize cannabis now!Peace.
urbangrower 4 years ago 4
Thank you for saying the obvious so powerfully!
otwman 5 years ago 3
ditto to what otwman said
raverleash 4 years ago 3
This is awsome!
jgar6 5 years ago 3
i agree 100% .... grrrrr will leave a video comment on this 1 in the morn .. im too baked now :) see ya soon :P get on stickam more lol xxx
speedboy123 5 years ago 3
excellent.
fuzzfoot 5 years ago 3