@illiriana albania nuk u perzie mirdita e nje pjese e veriut lart ne male ne kohen e turkut me turqit por u perzjen kavajsit elbansanllinjte durrcaket tironcit etj dhe pas ju mirditoret u perzjete me tirancat durres kavaje etj ! Nuk dua as te merzis dhe as te ofendoj as ty as krahinen se per mu shqiperia fillon ne malet e pindit ne greqi dhe mbaron tek pazari i ri afer beogradit! jprodukt miks fetar gjen sa te duash ne alb ! Nje gjyshe katolike , nje ortodokse dhe nje bektashinj dhe tjetr
Griechen Schwarzgeld wrote: The reason why "Greex" did not show a close relatedness with all the other Mediterraneans analyzed was their genetic relationship with sub-Saharan ethnic groups now residing in Ethiopia, Sudan and West Africa (Burkina-Fasso). (Tissue Antigens.Volume 57, Issue 2, pages 118–127, February 2001) Tissue Antigens is a peer-reviewed academic journal founded in 1971. It is the official journal of the European Federation for Immunogenetics, a scientific society.
@albania1878 according to a significant professor Koupitori (1821-1881) Albanians had a relation with a primeval tribe (who later branched to Latins, Illyrians and Greeks) . he was Arvanite from Ydra island.
@1443kastriotiNAZI STYLE CHURCH &GOVT WILL NOT LET IT COME OUT the truth of arvanites! the arvanite writer ARISTIDH KOLJA investigate what he said caused him to get sick!biological puzzle of arvanites its easy test our DNA & if yours is closer to mine than you are alb if it is clsr to the gr u are gr
@1443Kastrioti Lets presume that it is true what chams did ! How do you correct their wrongdoing by killing their children? criminals are everywhere but there is no such thing as a criminal ethnic group or a criminal family! What you do has nothing to do with your five year old son!
@kosta4431 LOOK KOSTA , EVERY MAN IS FREE TO BELIEVE WHAT HE WANTS FOR HIS SELF. HERE IN GREECE THERE ARE ABOUT 300.000-400.000 ARVANITES WHO ARE MORE GREEKS FROM THE GREEKS AND THEY KNOW THEIR ORIGIN FROM THE ANCIENT GREEK EPIROTS. AND WHAT I HEARD ABOUT GREEK ASSIMILATION OF ARVANITES IS joke. MARCO BOTSARIS WROTE A LEXICON. THAT HAD 1490 Arvanitikes words and 1700 Greeks. And how Epirot-Arvanites adopted Arvanitike dialect? Because they did massive family -relations with Gegs
@KRONOSELLAS They did not a kick!! They were butchered by greek soldiers! I had some confidence in myself that you were a progressist & a man with democratic values but you proved me wrong! Whoever kills a civillian is a coward& an animal! Life did not end for them but know u & all greeks that albos like me will never stop working & fighting to make justice for those children that were killed !
@KRONOSELLAS MARCO BOTSARI HAD WRITTEN A VERY INTERESTING LEXICON ARVANITIKA-GREEK. THAT HAD 1490 WORDS IN ARVANITIKA AND 1700 IN GREEK. THESE WORDS HE KNEW . AND THESE WORDS ONE SIMPLE PEASANT, WAS USING, AS WELL AS ONE CATTLE-BREEDER - [TSOMPANIS] OR A FARMER, AS THEY WERE ALL ARVANITES . BUT ONE EDUCATED ARVANITES WAS VERSED OF THE GREEK LANGUAGE AS WELL AS OTHER EDUCATED GREEKS. ARVANITIKA WAS NOT A LANGUAGE WITH 1500 WORDS!! BRO, BUT IT WAS A LANGUAGE TOOL
What i dont understand is: why greek politician are accepting the bailout money , when in three months they will face the same situation???? The economy is NOT going to get better in short term plus the debt they will have to repay its going to get worse! GET UP GREEKS & dont accept to ENSLAVE URSELF ! get up & fight oooops no more arvanites spirit in greece , the sons of souli are greeks now & dont have the fighting courage as they did! You assimilated them & thats what you get!!! Pussiesss!
Albani was born in Urbino, into a noble family that had established itself there from northern Albania in the 15th century[1] and were originally soldiers of Scanderbeg against the Ottoman Empire. During his reign as a Pope the famous Illyricum Sacrum was commissioned, and today it is one of the main sources of the field of Albanology, with over 5000 pages divided in several volumes written by Daniele Farlati and Dom. Coletti.
The Four Albanian Popes Pope Saint Eleutherius (175-189) Pope Saint Caius (283-296) Pope John IV (640-642) Pope Clement XI (1700-1721) Famous albanians ! To those that claim that we did not have any written history i say: tell vatican to allow us to check their archives and there are tons of albanian history!
@illyrianalbanian100 Want a Albanian admission of Greek mainland origin of Skanderbeg? The Albanian stamp of 1968, completing that year, 500 years after his death, shows the cover of the aforementioned History Barletii, shown in this clean, it was Prince Epirus (Epirotarum Principis) and not Albanian or Illyrian. He writes the cover: «HISTORIA DE VITA ET GESTIS SCANDERBEGI EPIROTARUM PRINCIPIS».
@KRONOSELLAS IN LATIN,,,GHEG LATIN,you idiot,,are you that stupid,epirus is albanian land,,his family still say they are albanian,,you have no sence what is wrong with you,,
@illyrianalbanian100 I AM AN EPIROTAN, YOU ARE A JANISSARY, TURK , TURKISH ALBANIAN. THE AUTHENTIC ARVANITES ARE CHRISTIANS AND GREEKS, YOU ARE TRAITORS, AND JANISSARIES
@KRONOSELLAS LOL I AM A CATHLIOC ALBANIAN.TO ME YOU ARE MORE TURKISH THAN ANYTHING,REAL ALBANIANS ARE NOT ARBANTIES BECAUSE THEY MIXED THERE BLOOD,YOU DONT EVEN COMPARE TO MY PEOPLE,,YOU SAY IM TURKISH THATS LIKE SAYING SCANDERBEG IS TURKISH,,YOU FOOL..WE DIDNT GET INFLUENCED,YOU PIG
@KRONOSELLAS There is something you do not understand. Religion is not ethnicity. You are confined to the teaching of your church. Scanderbag was a moslem when he served under Sultan. He deserted, came to Albania and died catholic. His religion changed but ethnicity didn't. Scanderbag's father was catholoic, orthodox and moslem at different times but his ethnicity didn't change. To you all orthodoxs in greece are greeks. Not true!! These historians are greeks, so open your closed mind...
@1ngatirana To you all orthodoxs in greece are greeks. Not true!!
Yes, it is true that being a Greek is different than being a orthodox Christan. The first is what someone believes where he belongs. That can be shown from his acts. Do you know that the son of Skendrbey, IOANNIS CASTRIOTIS fought in Hemara, with Greeks for the freedom of Epiros? He had with him and Maniates from Peloponnesos.Why in Hemara? And why Arberesh went to Italy? Why they were not become muslims?
@KRONOSELLAS hemara is a 100% albanian word you fool..Arbreshe are albanian and will tell use that they are go to itlaia and ask them..With scanderbeg hw had cathlioc albanians with him his whole army was nearly made up of northern albanians and cathlioc,,he fought for albanians in greece and he fought for greeks,,what are you saying he is greek?please he was albanians and fought for all lands of where albanians are from...stop your shit kronosella it is rubbish you speak,,
@KRONOSELLAS Dhermi/Drimades and Palase, these villages are all albanian speakers they speak a dieing language,,a language you are killing,,manyy suliots live there
@KRONOSELLAS Once again: Religion is not ethnicity!! I, for one, do not believe in religion, but that does not deprive me of ethnicity. Ethnicity is language, customs, facial features and so on, but it is not religion! Get it? Initially, arberesh went to Italy as mercenaries, they were paid and given land, just as the serbs were mercenaries in Krajina, Croatia.
@KRONOSELLAS you are a fucking idiot,scanderbeg was cathlioc albanian again spoke gheg dilect to the pope,scanderbeg says hes prince of epirus because it is albanian land and all over albania.im sick of your filthy lies .modern greeks are mixed turkish,gheg albanians are white and that is how it suppoesed to be in balkans,
800 hundreds years ago we were part of the byzantine empire and there is only bizantine history for that period of time ! Tell me what was happening in greece in the 9th century???? Tell me a fucking greek historian of the 9th century kronoellas????
@KRONOSELLAS dude greeks never fucking had an insurgency against the ottoman empire in fucking 400 years & only because ali of janina started the fire the arvanites stood up & fought! If ali didnt bother suliotes you would be turks today!
@KRONOSELLAS Our history is written with our blood & we all know it! Tell me what happened in greece from year 1 to1821???? Why greek skin is gypsy like?
We saw the greek "culture" in action in 1945 when they butchered cham babies like animals only because they were born by muslim albanians! Go fuck urself you fucking greeks ! You are no less brutal that fucking talebans!
@1443Kastrioti You are a arvantie?And your name is supposed to be of scanderbeg,,May i ask you why you are using a albanians name as you log in?Im cathlioc albanian,Albanian arbantie.you have no right using his name and even think he is greek,,My tribe fught along side him,and my laws are from his close frien leke dukagjini..You are in here talking shit about albanians but it is us cathliocs who know who you are,Fucking trader,,You are albanian who is assimulated,
@1443Kastrioti Dont give infomation that you have no idea about.PIG,,all your people are mixed blood with idiot pigs,,IYou are albanian get that in your thick head,,You seem to think when use fled that all albanians mixed with turks,,Guess what we didnt,we lived sicluded from them for long time,,an more than what you did,,,scanderbegs family who are still cathlioc still live in north albania and some went to malta...italia.idiot qifsha,
@1443Kastrioti come bring your arbantie albanian ass to north albania village where he ws born and say he was greek,,Come say it to cathlioc albanians,,I hate people like you,,,If you want to be greek then leave your albanian heros alone,,ey.any of you arbanties who belive you arebrave like use say use are.go to north albaniaand say they are turks and say scanderbeg was greek,,Your balls would be shoves in your mouths,,
@illyrianalbanian100 or kar jam shqiptar arvanitas ne nene nga tepelena, gjyshe nga tropoja dhe babain nga delvina, ca karin po thua rrot kari, une jam duke i bindur te gjithe qe greket e sotem jane perzierje arabesh, turqish, sllavesh dhe arvanitasish mer kar....po thoja qe camet u qine motren grekerve dhe vrane mbi 40,000 greke dhe mu nuk me vjen kea aspak, fshiji komentet mer kar se une po i mbroj shqiptaret
@KRONOSELLAS never said that greek propaganda hasnt done great job FAKING it& making sure that only this "history"greeks know! I pity greeks who are the victims of a corrupt elite & a nazi style church!U can lie 2the world that says yeahthe greek civilization is the same as greece today BUT not us that grew up there & know greece better than anyone who comes there eats drinks& dances4 three months & comes to USA & writes a great "study" of greek culture!FAKE ASS history!
Greece not greek.and yes you are right they are north epiruts albanian not greeks they speak albanian idiot lol everything about them are albanian so stupid
@KRONOSELLAS they name greece is not that old,It not old at all..As i told you hundreds times we all lived in tribes we lived sicluded from greeks,serbs,even arbanties did also at 1 point..You greeks called us arbanties,arnaut,albanese,we called ourself shqiptare,and that is also what arbanties called themselfs,,sons of eagle.
@illyrianalbanian100 Let we begin with the word “Greeks”, that is to say “[Graikoi]”. At Aristotle “[Graikoi]” were characterized initially Dorians of EPIROS and more concretely Dodoni. Then Latins received, that name, and adopted it (as Graea), from where it was also propagated in the all European languages (engl) Greeks, [franc]. Grecs, [span] Griegos, [germ]. Griechen, [ital]. Greci).
I feel bad that "greeks" of today carry the name of the real greeks of antiquity !In the last comment you accuse alb of crimes that they have done and jobs stolen but you dont mention cheap slaverous labour that you got from alb for 20 years
The gratitude the grandiose of homer the fighting spirit of achilles the mind of sofoklios ARE NOT part of u today! You dont accept the consequences of ur govmt& fight for Gr but you bitch beg curse! This is not the blood&pride of spartans this is lowlife lazy bastards of turkey!
@KRONOSELLAS Dude you are full of shit! Those thousands of pages you refer to are documents written by greek nationalist after1821 to give an identity to the neo greeks that did not know who they were after 4centuries of turk occupation! Its like the painting where the papu is teaching kids greek illegally cause turks wouldnt allow it & the greeks claim was painted during the ottoman era when that was painted 50 years after the inpndc! Greeks today have no relation w real greeks!
@albania1878 Dude you are full of shit! Those thousands of pages you refer to are documents written by greek nationalist after1821 to give an identity to the neo greeks
ΟΚ you say Aristotele or Platon nationalists of after 1821 period ok. Go to read your history (in ancient albanian language, of ancient albanian scholars ) and if you find only one then you can talk to me
Albanians help Grecce for a own country and kontribute the staate and today the most hate us and dont help us together for a strongers anti kuroption SouthBalkan
@1SoutheastEurope ARVANITES WHO SAY THAT THEY ARE ALBANIANS , IN FACT THEY ARE ARVANITES WHO DENIED THEIR CHRISTIAN RELIGION AND BECAME TURKISH ALBANIANS. CHRISTIANS ARVANITES ARE ONLY GREEKS WITH STABLE GREEK CONSCIENCE
@KRONOSELLAS YPU BETTER ZIP YOUR MOUTH MY BEST FRIEND IS A CHRISTIAN ARVANITE AM AN CATHOLIC ALBANIAN ALSO SO WHAT MAKES ME GREEK YOU STUPID IDIOT AND HOW DARE YOU CALL US TURKS OUR HISTORY TELLS WHAT WE DID TO THEM AND ALBANIANS HAVE FULLY CONTRIBUTED TO THE LIBERATION OF GREECE CALLING US TURKS AND YOU BEING THE SAME LOOKING WITH THEM
@1SoutheastEurope WHAT HISTORY, I WONDER. WELL GIVE ME A NAME OF AN ALBANIAN HISTORIAN BEFORE 800 YEARS. IF YOUR FRIEND IS CHRISTIAN LET HIM READ THE WORDS OF THE MONUMENTS OF HIS FOREFATHERS IN NORTH EPIROS. ALBANIANS WERE ENEMIES OF GREECE, OTHERWISE WHY THEY DO NOT MAKE A UNION (NORTH EPIROS) WITH GREECE?
@KRONOSELLAS You want one name 900 hounded years ago i give you one even more older Marlin Barleti and shut the fuck up with your worthless propaganda this people are Greeks speaking the truth you fucking idiot
@1SoutheastEurope MARIN BARLETI: Author of Historia de vita et gestis Scanderbegi Epirotarum principis
WHY HE NAMED SKENDERBEI AS EPIROTARUM, AND NOT ALBANIAN OR SQIPTAR? I WILL GIVE SOME ADVICE LEARN GREEK IN ORDER TO UNDERSTAND THE HISTORY OF YOUR FOREFATHERS GREEKS, AND TO READ THE WORDS ON THE ANCIENT MONUMENTS OF NORTH EPIROS.
@KRONOSELLAS you are a fucking idiot,scanderbeg was cathlioc albanian again spoke gheg dilect to the pope,scanderbeg says hes prince of epirus because it is albanian land and all over albania.im sick of your filthy lies .modern greeks are mixed turkish,gheg albanians are white and that is how it suppoesed to be in balkans,
@KRONOSELLAS Listen you dumb idiot Sknaderbeg called him self an Albanian!
(Shqiptare lirine nuk ja u solla une por e gjeta midis jush) (Albanians i didn't bring freedom to you i founded here) Gjergj Kastrioti 1443!! Marlin Barleti was an Albanian catholic priest who wrote Gjergj Kastroti History after he died all world knows him as an Albanian except some Greeks who claims the world is Greece! Anyway what have you got to do with Scanderbeg he was Albanian catholic while Greeks have non Catholi
You see what you dont know is that computers do much for albanians and arbanties,,go to face book and join the albanians and arbanties agreeing who they are lol it is called RVANITES GLOBAL PAGE
Pilos lol is not coned.the statues are the same as albanian. why we onlyones wearing ancient hats.not greeks.why because modern greks are mixed people
The pileus (from Greek πῖλος - pilos, also pilleus or pilleum in Latin) was a brimless, felt cap worn by sailors in Ancient Greece[1] and later copied by Ancient Rome. The Greek πιλίδιον (pilidion) and Latin pilleolus were smaller versions, similar to a skullcap.
Albanians have borrowed many things from Greeks and thier culture..The Fustanella being another one..Do not think they are Albanian in orgins because Albanians still wear something like the pileus today..Most ancient Greeks that wore them wroe them under thier helmets...which BTW is a Greek word and Greek in origins...Nothing to do with Albanians....Look up a hat called a Papakhi look at the wool version of it..looks just like the Albanian one,,,see its orgins ...
@cobone2 yer the fustenella another thing,Are you that retarded,Are you even watching this doco..LMAO,yer we borrwoed the pilos bahhah yer well then we must have thousands of years ago because i dont see any greek wearing them now,And if it wes greek then you would be wearing them,it is albanian plis not greek,HAHAH yer gergion nice try idiot,Greeks are square not coned you fool,
@cobone2 Your hats are more common with turks you idiot,,And i dont call them plis i call them Qeleshe.LESH means wool,as what it is made from by the way lesh is a very old word,And if you think that the georgins hat is same as albanian then you have issues,,From what i know papakhi is very much greek word PAPAKI WITCH MEANS DUCK,,FUNNY THAT,,THE ONLY GREEKS WHO WEAR THE PLIS ARE ASSIMULATED ALBANIAN AND THAT MY FRIEND IS A FUCKING FACT.
@eraldb12 Why i bother vella because it kills me to see such propaganda from idiots who are brainwashed,,I dont hate all greeks just greeks like this derr,If he said this to me i would cut his balls off i am so angry,
@illyrianalbanian100 YOU SAY THAT BECAUSE ALBANIANS WEAR PILOS (PLIS) THEY ARE ILLYRIANS. LOOK , GREEKS HAVE A WRITTEN HISTORY AT LEAST 3000 YEARS. THEY HAVE SAVED THOUSANDS PAGES OF ANCIENT TEXTS. BECAUSE WE USE THEM IN SCHOOLS AND UNIVERSITIES THE LAST 3000 YEARS. IN MANY ANCIENT TEXTS, THEY ARE DESCRIBED GREEK TRADITIONS AND CUSTOMS AND ETHICS THAT ARE ALIVE UNTILL TODAY. HAVE ALBANIANS GOT ANY WRITTEN HISTORY?
@KRONOSELLAS tell me when we started using the albanian PLIS?You cant because we have used it ever since we have been in balkans,,Can you tell me when greeks stopped using the so called plis they say is theres?
You mean ASSIMILATED ALBANIAN,,LOL,Can you tell me something genius??If someone tried to ASSIMILATE YOU today what would you do???Bulgarians tried to ASSIMILATE Greeks and there was blood history show us this and tells us this..Where is all of this blood from Greek ASSIMILATING Albanians???It doesnt exist and never did.Arvanites or what ever name you wish to give them,NEVER identified as Albanians to the contrary they hated albanians with a passion...
@cobone2 What would we do?Do the same thing as what we have done for long time,,Fight for our freedom keep our culture intact,speak our language no matter what teach our children our culture and teach them about the enemys of our people so they are aware of what may happen in the future,This is why we still speak our language,If arvanties say they were never albanian then why last year the arvantie league wanted to come out and say who they are but greek goverment gave death threats
Arvanite league??You mean one man..Not the Arvanites themselves..And any death threats i guarante you they came from the Arvanites themselevs towards the presdent of the league at that time..He was pro Albanian..If you ask me he was an Albanian..and if he identified as one thats his business..
@cobone2 By the way the romans had not used the plis but a hat that was not coned it had a point on the top that slopped toward the front,,,you fail..you just tryed to talk shit because you know very well north albanians are shorter than lower albanians plis so you tryed cunning to say our hats of north are latin because it is short and the taller ones are greeks,,But you see you filthy verom i know about this hat,,And i really hate greeks like you who theive,,NOT ALL GREEKS
Baaha. simple as this tosks are albanian not greek never were and never will be.tosks are just a south illyrian tribe. and ghegs upper illyrian tribe arbanties assimulated albanians thats all.*
One questions do the arvanites at the moment miks in marriage with other non arvanites,no needs for insult is just a questions, we Albanian don't like miks marriages we believe it weakens the blood.
@steleprezerake Lets have a DNA TESTING AND SEE HOW "greek" the arvanites are? Lets let facts that speak not BIG FAT GREEK LIARS! do you agree on that! The minister karaxhaferri is one of them! Test him and see how much "greek" blood he has!
@ steperezezeze you are asking me if there is a written document of albanian older than 500 years? I say we do not have one in our hands but that does not mean there isnt! We might have one that is not yet discovered! Languages have two dimensions; WRITTEN &SPOKEN! apaches here in USA to this day do not write their language but apaches speak APACHE to this day! I lived in arizona w them and thats a fact! I can give you plenty of facts but u will not be convinced because you are sim
Democracy, Philosophy, Geometry, Mathematics, Science, Music, Theater, Drama, Comedy and many other things that separate human from monkey were discovered in GREECE by GREEKS. These are the facts and you are still brain-washed from the stupid lies that your ex-communist leader. I feel really sorry for you because I thought that racists are very few in my neighborhood.
@steleprezerake Mathematics wrong,Music wrong.maths was not greek you fool it was just adopted by the world because it was easy,.music pfft do you really think use are the oldest in world bahahah,,you dont have any ancient instruments preserved NOW let alone in past..bahhah you silly pig,,
@illyrianalbanian100 hahaha We have MANY ancient instruments preserved, just you don't know because your level is so low. So maths were easy? and what is "pi"? or even the very word "mathematic" or "geometry"? are they albanians? lol Sorry, you are so stupid that I cannot keep talking. I like to communicate with humans, not with racist monkeys.
There is no such a thing as an albanian philosopher or mathematician, or scientist or any albanian discovery. You people are just blind from the racists lies that the previous communist government brain-washed you.
yes, we need not convince no loser about our language - it is the only language that survived from the ancient paleo-Balkan peoples such as the Illyrians, Thracians, Dacians etc that's why it is a separate branch of the Indo-European tree of languages
Albanians are famous thieves. They stole the name of an ancient Greek tribe, the Illyrians, and they claim that they are Illyrians. They think that Alexander was Albanian lol I should spread these stories around because all people must have the right to laugh hahaha You are so uneducated and so petty that not even Greece couldn't teach you how to be a civilized human person. The word "Albanian" will be always an insult in human mind. But you can keep thinking that you are ancient hahaha monkeys
@steleprezerake maybe you are a monkey ..one without a brain ..and we steal nothing but you are all so jealous ...maybe one day you will declare Albanians are not humans but ghosts - this is your level, really low
@lulejaa Even the letters that you used for writing your message are Latin, albanian thief. You never created even Letters and you claim that you own an ancient language? hahaha even words like "one" or "jealous" that you use in your stupid message are of GREEK origin, hahaha go back in your caves, barbarian monkeys
@steleprezerake LOSER - I never claimed we invented latin letters?! wow! the letters you use now in Greek are copied from Phoenicians with some slight changes. Who is the thief now
Ancient Greeks Borrowed the Letters from Phoenicians... or maybe should I say the Pelasgians ... the ones that taught Greeks the worship of Pelasgian gods....
@Axeldevil Athena or Gaia or Zeus were Albanian or Phoenician Gods, smartass? You know that "Pelasgos" is a Greek name? Pelasgian civilization was a young Greek civilization... I cannot imagine that there is such an uneducated person as you. I am really sorry for you.
Illyrians were not greek... neither were Thracians or Epirots... maybe not even the Macedonians.... so before commenting ...read a little about history...
@Axeldevil "History" is a GREEK word, albanian thief. So is Thacians, Epirots, Macedonians, Minoans etc. You just created stories about some "albanian ancient race" because no country respects you since you are just a bunch of thieves. I am surprised that you can even speak like humans!
@illyrianalbanian100 Your language is a mixture of Latin letters and Italian, Greek, Turkish and Slavic words. It has one of the most poor vocabulary. The reason that you are somehow civilized is that Greece is near. You should thank Greece because if Greece was not near there, you would live like animals and speak like monkeys. At the beginning of 20th century, you used the Turkish flag but now you claim that you are the people of the eagle, hahaha you are so pathetic!
@steleprezerake hahah yes maybe we have some influence from them,But please muthafuka you have over 12.000 turkish words in your shitful language and way more than what albanians have and will ever its funny.go take a hard look in the mirror you turkish mongol.Even with the infusion in our language we still have much native language,We have old latin and some old church slav just little.but then we have illyrian,thracian,and little dacian,and doric..you see pig
@illyrianalbanian100 You just a typical racist greekish turkish mongol NOT ALL GREEKS but ones like you who are ugly looking turks,You greeks also held the turkish flag and you still drink there coffee and theword milk in greek is infact turkish word so the trukish coffee you drink and the milk you ask for is 1000 pure turkish,,hahah mumec
The claim that souliotes fought for greek indpdnc its a BIG FAT GREEK LIE! They fought against the turks and ali pasha as they had done for centuries ! Independence for the arvanite from the turk so the greks could enslave and assimilate them????? No !Souliote fought to defend their identity and the arvanite culture and never fought for greek indp!it was just a coincidence and greeks used it!
@ djvasiliqi arvanites was a tribe inside the ottoman territory which is now inside greece! They spoke albanian just like the other tribes LIVING IN THAT REGION! TOSK LAB CHAM ARVANITe the main tribes !they called themselves arvanite not greek not albanian but their mother tongue was albanian!
@albania1878 can you tell me of a written proof of the albanian "language" older than 500 years? Besides, you don't have even your own letters: Like everything, you stolen the Latin letters from Italy and you think that you have an ancient language! Arvanites were NOT Albanians because if they were, they would called simply "Albanians". We call the Greeks from Epirus as "Arvanites". "Albania" was unknown that time, because it didn't exist as a race and country.
@Axeldevil Albanian race is a mixture from many countries, and they are originated from Azerbaijan. You have nothing to present to human civilization, such as science, philosophy, language, theatre, culture. You don't have even respect among other countries. All people think that albanian=thief. You have nothing so you want to steal our history... You are so pathetic... can't you see that all humans laugh because of your stupidity?
@steleprezerake nobody cares what you think of us - you're just an irrelevant stupid and uneducated person full of himself - just be careful jealousy will make you sick one day LOSER - what counts are facts and the fact is Arvanites=Albanians..the rest of your garbage sentences are for the trash bin
@lulejaa yeah, whatever, albanian monkey. The facts are that the albanians do NOT have any history and you are very upset about that. Another fact is that Arvanites are GREEKS. Another fact is that when your people came to Greece, they came as a disease; they never had a legal job, just sell drugs and the women were working as prostitutes (very cheap prostitutes by the way, because they are so much ugly and dirty).
@steleprezerake we dont have much history because we lived sicluded from you pigs and other and lived in tribes still.But we happy to live like that monkey boy.
Azerbaijan my ass. were did u learn your history? in a cave? cause all u say is total bullshit with no historic/linguistic base what so ever...
Should I remind u that During Byzantine times 1/3 of Greece population was Albanian?
or that all of Thessaly was inhabited from Vlachs? maybe I should remind u that in lozane treaty u brought 1.500.000 asians imigrants from Turkey in exchange of 500.000 muslim europeans..
@Axeldevil even your nickname (devil) is of a GREEK origin, poor albanian monkey. Azerbaijan is where you came from; still now there is a place called "albania" at Azerbaijan. Also Vlachs are GREEKS and sorry, you cannot change that fact. Byzantine civilization was GREEK - ROMAN and not albano-monkey. Besides there was not any "albania" that time. The "asian immigrants" living in Turkey were GREEKS from Ionia and they lived there thousands of years hahaha you are a funny little monkey
Oh my!!! Greeks? ahahahah they were ASIANS.. stupid ... thats why they are Black with Asiatic features...just like Turks mr. neogreek.... There is no Greek race in Greece.... you are all bastards just like u steleprezerake...
@Axeldevil they were Asians because they lived in Asia? You are so stupid. It's called "Asia Minor" and it's full of GREEK and ROMAN RUINS, hahaha. You mean that the black people of USA are pure Americans and not Africans? lol
@illyrianalbanian100 Turks are mongols. Their DNA is Mongolian. Greeks are Europeans. Albanians are European-Slav-Mongol mixture. Racists like you are monkeys.
@steleprezerake bahahah yer we are mongols yep so much then why do you greeks look like turks?why are use very dirty looking and hairy.Your eyes are dark,albanians are european no mongol there pig only you greeks look mongol and speak over 12,000 turkish mongol NOW THATS A MIXTURE,my little dark gypsy the only greeks who are eurpoean in balkans are the ones who have hazel green eyes and brown hair not dark hair gypsy looking like you..
Turk DNA is Mongolian? ahahahahah u idiot think that Turks that came to Turkey from Steppes were much more numerous than local population? braindead...
The exchange was based on religion and not ethnic origin u stupid ass... thats why many of these that came to greece were not greek speakers... in contrary many muslim "greeks" were baptized turks and were send to Turkey... just like Greeks Muslims of Crete... stupid...
@illiriana albania nuk u perzie mirdita e nje pjese e veriut lart ne male ne kohen e turkut me turqit por u perzjen kavajsit elbansanllinjte durrcaket tironcit etj dhe pas ju mirditoret u perzjete me tirancat durres kavaje etj ! Nuk dua as te merzis dhe as te ofendoj as ty as krahinen se per mu shqiperia fillon ne malet e pindit ne greqi dhe mbaron tek pazari i ri afer beogradit! jprodukt miks fetar gjen sa te duash ne alb ! Nje gjyshe katolike , nje ortodokse dhe nje bektashinj dhe tjetr
albania1878 4 hours ago
ne jena 1sh ne shqiptarët!!!!
YouTfts 1 day ago
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Griechen Schwarzgeld wrote: The reason why "Greex" did not show a close relatedness with all the other Mediterraneans analyzed was their genetic relationship with sub-Saharan ethnic groups now residing in Ethiopia, Sudan and West Africa (Burkina-Fasso). (Tissue Antigens.Volume 57, Issue 2, pages 118–127, February 2001) Tissue Antigens is a peer-reviewed academic journal founded in 1971. It is the official journal of the European Federation for Immunogenetics, a scientific society.
geno2741111111 1 day ago
@RomiosHellas U r right we have mixed w turks & u mixed with us!
albania1878 4 days ago
@albania1878 according to a significant professor Koupitori (1821-1881) Albanians had a relation with a primeval tribe (who later branched to Latins, Illyrians and Greeks) . he was Arvanite from Ydra island.
KRONOSELLAS 4 days ago
@albania1878 I didnt mix with turks,,nor did many north albanians,,
illyrianalbanian100 8 hours ago
@RomiosHellas & greece is a german one!
albania1878 4 days ago
funny how all the Albanian subtitle use Greek words...like ideology....yes....Albania is an AustroHungarianItalian Construct...
RomiosHellas 4 days ago
@RomiosHellas and you are german (otto) construct.......greeks are hell as a dick
albanian288 2 days ago
@1443kastriotiNAZI STYLE CHURCH &GOVT WILL NOT LET IT COME OUT the truth of arvanites! the arvanite writer ARISTIDH KOLJA investigate what he said caused him to get sick!biological puzzle of arvanites its easy test our DNA & if yours is closer to mine than you are alb if it is clsr to the gr u are gr
albania1878 5 days ago
@albania1878 jam shqiptar vlla me shekuj
1443Kastrioti 3 days ago
@1443Kastrioti Lets presume that it is true what chams did ! How do you correct their wrongdoing by killing their children? criminals are everywhere but there is no such thing as a criminal ethnic group or a criminal family! What you do has nothing to do with your five year old son!
albania1878 5 days ago
VERY GOOD WORKED PROPAGANDA
PaokOrDead 5 days ago
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KRONOSELLAS 6 days ago
ALBANIA population. Greece, Kosovo,Macedonia, Montenegro, Turkey. 10 milion Alvanos olos to kozmos. Orea anthropos. Oxi Racizem. Loveeeee ALBANIA ALBANIA ALBANIA ALBANIA
kosta4431 2 weeks ago
@kosta4431 LOOK KOSTA , EVERY MAN IS FREE TO BELIEVE WHAT HE WANTS FOR HIS SELF. HERE IN GREECE THERE ARE ABOUT 300.000-400.000 ARVANITES WHO ARE MORE GREEKS FROM THE GREEKS AND THEY KNOW THEIR ORIGIN FROM THE ANCIENT GREEK EPIROTS. AND WHAT I HEARD ABOUT GREEK ASSIMILATION OF ARVANITES IS joke. MARCO BOTSARIS WROTE A LEXICON. THAT HAD 1490 Arvanitikes words and 1700 Greeks. And how Epirot-Arvanites adopted Arvanitike dialect? Because they did massive family -relations with Gegs
KRONOSELLAS 1 week ago
ALBANIA ALBANIA ALBANIA = Greece No Racizem I Love Greece I <3 ALBANIA
kosta4431 2 weeks ago
@KRONOSELLAS Yep just like ballaban!
albania1878 2 weeks ago
Steve na pa te lol
illyrianalbanian100 2 weeks ago
Steve language.culture and traditions. so shut the fuck up*
illyrianalbanian100 2 weeks ago
Thats fine but religion doesnt change who they are
illyrianalbanian100 2 weeks ago
@KRONOSELLAS They did not a kick!! They were butchered by greek soldiers! I had some confidence in myself that you were a progressist & a man with democratic values but you proved me wrong! Whoever kills a civillian is a coward& an animal! Life did not end for them but know u & all greeks that albos like me will never stop working & fighting to make justice for those children that were killed !
albania1878 2 weeks ago
@albania1878 DO YOU KNOW THAT NAPOLEON ZERVAS WAS A SOULIOT? (ARVANITES).
KRONOSELLAS 2 weeks ago
@KRONOSELLAS ZERVAS is a albanian name did you know that?
illyrianalbanian100 2 weeks ago
@illyrianalbanian100 it is an ordinary surname in Greece.
KRONOSELLAS 2 weeks ago
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@KRONOSELLAS MARCO BOTSARI HAD WRITTEN A VERY INTERESTING LEXICON ARVANITIKA-GREEK. THAT HAD 1490 WORDS IN ARVANITIKA AND 1700 IN GREEK. THESE WORDS HE KNEW . AND THESE WORDS ONE SIMPLE PEASANT, WAS USING, AS WELL AS ONE CATTLE-BREEDER - [TSOMPANIS] OR A FARMER, AS THEY WERE ALL ARVANITES . BUT ONE EDUCATED ARVANITES WAS VERSED OF THE GREEK LANGUAGE AS WELL AS OTHER EDUCATED GREEKS. ARVANITIKA WAS NOT A LANGUAGE WITH 1500 WORDS!! BRO, BUT IT WAS A LANGUAGE TOOL
KRONOSELLAS 1 week ago
Na pate na gamithite eseis kai h mana sas h tsatsa! skatomousoulmanikotorkoalvanoi tou kolou!
Oi Arvanites eimaste ELLINES!
steve81132 2 weeks ago
Christian albanians
illyrianalbanian100 2 weeks ago
@illyrianalbanian100
IF THEY ARE ORTHODOX, THEN THEY ARE OUR BROTHERS. THEY ARE WELCOME IN GREECE
KRONOSELLAS 2 weeks ago
ALBANIA WILL GO TILL ATHINA ONE DAY SOON!!!
WE WILL GET OUR LANDS BACK- CAMERIA!
TbOoOx 2 weeks ago
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KRONOSELLAS 2 weeks ago
@TbOoOx After we fuck your ass, we'll let you walk the streets of Athens as our prostitutes! MOLON LAVE KARIOLI!!
steve81132 2 weeks ago
@steve81132 Yeah, I know you want our ASS, Faggot. But you can't afford to lick it!ahahahahhahahhahhahahahahahahh... ATHINA IS OURS!!!!!!!!!!
TbOoOx 2 weeks ago
What i dont understand is: why greek politician are accepting the bailout money , when in three months they will face the same situation???? The economy is NOT going to get better in short term plus the debt they will have to repay its going to get worse! GET UP GREEKS & dont accept to ENSLAVE URSELF ! get up & fight oooops no more arvanites spirit in greece , the sons of souli are greeks now & dont have the fighting courage as they did! You assimilated them & thats what you get!!! Pussiesss!
albania1878 2 weeks ago
Hey kronosellas i heard a couple of greek songs glika glika & one from despina vandi and the tune was pure arabic ! Am i right or wrong???
albania1878 2 weeks ago
Eat shit kronosellas! Da pope was an albo !
albania1878 3 weeks ago
Albani was born in Urbino, into a noble family that had established itself there from northern Albania in the 15th century[1] and were originally soldiers of Scanderbeg against the Ottoman Empire. During his reign as a Pope the famous Illyricum Sacrum was commissioned, and today it is one of the main sources of the field of Albanology, with over 5000 pages divided in several volumes written by Daniele Farlati and Dom. Coletti.
albania1878 3 weeks ago
Pope Clement XI (23 July 1649 -- 19 March 1721), born Giovanni Francesco Albani, was Pope from 1700 until his death in 1721.
albania1878 3 weeks ago
The Four Albanian Popes Pope Saint Eleutherius (175-189) Pope Saint Caius (283-296) Pope John IV (640-642) Pope Clement XI (1700-1721) Famous albanians ! To those that claim that we did not have any written history i say: tell vatican to allow us to check their archives and there are tons of albanian history!
albania1878 3 weeks ago
@KRONOSELLAS & who is this kaminates by the way????
albania1878 3 weeks ago
@albania1878 look at the inernet, he wrote about the conquest of Thesalonike from Arabs
there are and others historians, if you like look for Byzantio, in internet or in books
KRONOSELLAS 3 weeks ago
@KRONOSELLAS why are you the way you are?Are you arbantie?no shit are you..
illyrianalbanian100 3 weeks ago
@illyrianalbanian100 Want a Albanian admission of Greek mainland origin of Skanderbeg? The Albanian stamp of 1968, completing that year, 500 years after his death, shows the cover of the aforementioned History Barletii, shown in this clean, it was Prince Epirus (Epirotarum Principis) and not Albanian or Illyrian. He writes the cover: «HISTORIA DE VITA ET GESTIS SCANDERBEGI EPIROTARUM PRINCIPIS».
KRONOSELLAS 3 weeks ago
@KRONOSELLAS IN LATIN,,,GHEG LATIN,you idiot,,are you that stupid,epirus is albanian land,,his family still say they are albanian,,you have no sence what is wrong with you,,
illyrianalbanian100 3 weeks ago
@illyrianalbanian100 I AM AN EPIROTAN, YOU ARE A JANISSARY, TURK , TURKISH ALBANIAN. THE AUTHENTIC ARVANITES ARE CHRISTIANS AND GREEKS, YOU ARE TRAITORS, AND JANISSARIES
KRONOSELLAS 2 weeks ago
@KRONOSELLAS LOL I AM A CATHLIOC ALBANIAN.TO ME YOU ARE MORE TURKISH THAN ANYTHING,REAL ALBANIANS ARE NOT ARBANTIES BECAUSE THEY MIXED THERE BLOOD,YOU DONT EVEN COMPARE TO MY PEOPLE,,YOU SAY IM TURKISH THATS LIKE SAYING SCANDERBEG IS TURKISH,,YOU FOOL..WE DIDNT GET INFLUENCED,YOU PIG
illyrianalbanian100 2 weeks ago
@illyrianalbanian100 IF YOU ARE A CATHOLIC YOU ARE NOT A TURK
KRONOSELLAS 2 weeks ago
@KRONOSELLAS There is something you do not understand. Religion is not ethnicity. You are confined to the teaching of your church. Scanderbag was a moslem when he served under Sultan. He deserted, came to Albania and died catholic. His religion changed but ethnicity didn't. Scanderbag's father was catholoic, orthodox and moslem at different times but his ethnicity didn't change. To you all orthodoxs in greece are greeks. Not true!! These historians are greeks, so open your closed mind...
1ngatirana 2 weeks ago
@1ngatirana To you all orthodoxs in greece are greeks. Not true!!
Yes, it is true that being a Greek is different than being a orthodox Christan. The first is what someone believes where he belongs. That can be shown from his acts. Do you know that the son of Skendrbey, IOANNIS CASTRIOTIS fought in Hemara, with Greeks for the freedom of Epiros? He had with him and Maniates from Peloponnesos.Why in Hemara? And why Arberesh went to Italy? Why they were not become muslims?
KRONOSELLAS 2 weeks ago
@KRONOSELLAS hemara is a 100% albanian word you fool..Arbreshe are albanian and will tell use that they are go to itlaia and ask them..With scanderbeg hw had cathlioc albanians with him his whole army was nearly made up of northern albanians and cathlioc,,he fought for albanians in greece and he fought for greeks,,what are you saying he is greek?please he was albanians and fought for all lands of where albanians are from...stop your shit kronosella it is rubbish you speak,,
illyrianalbanian100 2 weeks ago
@illyrianalbanian100 HEMARA IS GREEK ALBANIAN BANANIAN
KRONOSELLAS 2 weeks ago
@KRONOSELLAS Dhermi/Drimades and Palase, these villages are all albanian speakers they speak a dieing language,,a language you are killing,,manyy suliots live there
illyrianalbanian100 2 weeks ago
@illyrianalbanian100 "manyy suliots live there "
CHRISTIANS ORTHODOX?
KRONOSELLAS 2 weeks ago
@KRONOSELLAS Once again: Religion is not ethnicity!! I, for one, do not believe in religion, but that does not deprive me of ethnicity. Ethnicity is language, customs, facial features and so on, but it is not religion! Get it? Initially, arberesh went to Italy as mercenaries, they were paid and given land, just as the serbs were mercenaries in Krajina, Croatia.
1ngatirana 2 weeks ago
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KRONOSELLAS 3 weeks ago
@KRONOSELLAS please
illyrianalbanian100 3 weeks ago
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@KRONOSELLAS you are a fucking idiot,scanderbeg was cathlioc albanian again spoke gheg dilect to the pope,scanderbeg says hes prince of epirus because it is albanian land and all over albania.im sick of your filthy lies .modern greeks are mixed turkish,gheg albanians are white and that is how it suppoesed to be in balkans,
illyrianalbanian100 3 weeks ago
@KRONOSELLAS are you certain of that?
illyrianalbanian100 3 weeks ago
800 hundreds years ago we were part of the byzantine empire and there is only bizantine history for that period of time ! Tell me what was happening in greece in the 9th century???? Tell me a fucking greek historian of the 9th century kronoellas????
albania1878 3 weeks ago
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@albania1878 Tell me a fucking greek historian of the 9th century kronoellas????
Answer: Ioannis Kaminiatis
KRONOSELLAS 3 weeks ago
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@albania1878 Tell me a fucking greek historian of the 9th century kronoellas????
Answer: Ioannis Kaminiatis
what is the reward?
KRONOSELLAS 3 weeks ago
@KRONOSELLAS dude greeks never fucking had an insurgency against the ottoman empire in fucking 400 years & only because ali of janina started the fire the arvanites stood up & fought! If ali didnt bother suliotes you would be turks today!
albania1878 3 weeks ago
@KRONOSELLAS Our history is written with our blood & we all know it! Tell me what happened in greece from year 1 to1821???? Why greek skin is gypsy like?
albania1878 3 weeks ago
Vella not all greeks r like these idiots.
illyrianalbanian100 3 weeks ago
We saw the greek "culture" in action in 1945 when they butchered cham babies like animals only because they were born by muslim albanians! Go fuck urself you fucking greeks ! You are no less brutal that fucking talebans!
albania1878 3 weeks ago 7
@albania1878 my friend the truth will come to as all and everybody in this earth will understand that albanians are the might aryans and illyrians.
But... i would like to say you something about the chams, don't forget that chams albanians killed more than 30,000 greeks in ww2, so.....
However greetings from an arvanitas, my mind is illuminated already, unlike my grandfather....
1443Kastrioti 6 days ago
@1443Kastrioti You are a arvantie?And your name is supposed to be of scanderbeg,,May i ask you why you are using a albanians name as you log in?Im cathlioc albanian,Albanian arbantie.you have no right using his name and even think he is greek,,My tribe fught along side him,and my laws are from his close frien leke dukagjini..You are in here talking shit about albanians but it is us cathliocs who know who you are,Fucking trader,,You are albanian who is assimulated,
illyrianalbanian100 8 hours ago
@1443Kastrioti Dont give infomation that you have no idea about.PIG,,all your people are mixed blood with idiot pigs,,IYou are albanian get that in your thick head,,You seem to think when use fled that all albanians mixed with turks,,Guess what we didnt,we lived sicluded from them for long time,,an more than what you did,,,scanderbegs family who are still cathlioc still live in north albania and some went to malta...italia.idiot qifsha,
illyrianalbanian100 8 hours ago
@1443Kastrioti come bring your arbantie albanian ass to north albania village where he ws born and say he was greek,,Come say it to cathlioc albanians,,I hate people like you,,,If you want to be greek then leave your albanian heros alone,,ey.any of you arbanties who belive you arebrave like use say use are.go to north albaniaand say they are turks and say scanderbeg was greek,,Your balls would be shoves in your mouths,,
illyrianalbanian100 8 hours ago
@illyrianalbanian100 or kar jam shqiptar arvanitas ne nene nga tepelena, gjyshe nga tropoja dhe babain nga delvina, ca karin po thua rrot kari, une jam duke i bindur te gjithe qe greket e sotem jane perzierje arabesh, turqish, sllavesh dhe arvanitasish mer kar....po thoja qe camet u qine motren grekerve dhe vrane mbi 40,000 greke dhe mu nuk me vjen kea aspak, fshiji komentet mer kar se une po i mbroj shqiptaret
1443Kastrioti 7 hours ago
@albania1878 Albanians. converted on mass with the Turks. and therefore like Turks.
RomiosHellas 4 days ago
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KRONOSELLAS 4 days ago
@KRONOSELLAS never said that greek propaganda hasnt done great job FAKING it& making sure that only this "history"greeks know! I pity greeks who are the victims of a corrupt elite & a nazi style church!U can lie 2the world that says yeahthe greek civilization is the same as greece today BUT not us that grew up there & know greece better than anyone who comes there eats drinks& dances4 three months & comes to USA & writes a great "study" of greek culture!FAKE ASS history!
albania1878 3 weeks ago 8
@albania1878 TSAMIDES, WHO ARE ALBANIANS , HAVE GOT A STRONG KICK OUT OF GREECE. SOULIOTES AND THE OTHER GREEK ARVANITES, WERE AND ARE PROUD GREEKS
KRONOSELLAS 2 weeks ago
oh fuck you their greeks
MrJannos1 3 weeks ago
Greece not greek.and yes you are right they are north epiruts albanian not greeks they speak albanian idiot lol everything about them are albanian so stupid
illyrianalbanian100 3 weeks ago
@illyrianalbanian100 Greek = Γραικός, we have and other names Hellen=Ελλην , Roman=Ρωμιος Younan=Ion = Ιων.
KRONOSELLAS 3 weeks ago
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KRONOSELLAS 3 weeks ago
@KRONOSELLAS they name greece is not that old,It not old at all..As i told you hundreds times we all lived in tribes we lived sicluded from greeks,serbs,even arbanties did also at 1 point..You greeks called us arbanties,arnaut,albanese,we called ourself shqiptare,and that is also what arbanties called themselfs,,sons of eagle.
illyrianalbanian100 3 weeks ago
@illyrianalbanian100 Let we begin with the word “Greeks”, that is to say “[Graikoi]”. At Aristotle “[Graikoi]” were characterized initially Dorians of EPIROS and more concretely Dodoni. Then Latins received, that name, and adopted it (as Graea), from where it was also propagated in the all European languages (engl) Greeks, [franc]. Grecs, [span] Griegos, [germ]. Griechen, [ital]. Greci).
KRONOSELLAS 3 weeks ago
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I feel bad that "greeks" of today carry the name of the real greeks of antiquity !In the last comment you accuse alb of crimes that they have done and jobs stolen but you dont mention cheap slaverous labour that you got from alb for 20 years
albania1878 3 weeks ago
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The gratitude the grandiose of homer the fighting spirit of achilles the mind of sofoklios ARE NOT part of u today! You dont accept the consequences of ur govmt& fight for Gr but you bitch beg curse! This is not the blood&pride of spartans this is lowlife lazy bastards of turkey!
albania1878 3 weeks ago
@KRONOSELLAS Dude you are full of shit! Those thousands of pages you refer to are documents written by greek nationalist after1821 to give an identity to the neo greeks that did not know who they were after 4centuries of turk occupation! Its like the painting where the papu is teaching kids greek illegally cause turks wouldnt allow it & the greeks claim was painted during the ottoman era when that was painted 50 years after the inpndc! Greeks today have no relation w real greeks!
albania1878 3 weeks ago
@albania1878 Dude you are full of shit! Those thousands of pages you refer to are documents written by greek nationalist after1821 to give an identity to the neo greeks
ΟΚ you say Aristotele or Platon nationalists of after 1821 period ok. Go to read your history (in ancient albanian language, of ancient albanian scholars ) and if you find only one then you can talk to me
KRONOSELLAS 3 weeks ago
And tell me the date use stopped wearing them lol
illyrianalbanian100 3 weeks ago
Tell me a time when we didnt wear the plis you cant cause we have since day 1
illyrianalbanian100 3 weeks ago
Albanians help Grecce for a own country and kontribute the staate and today the most hate us and dont help us together for a strongers anti kuroption SouthBalkan
kosovafighta 3 weeks ago
@kosovafighta THE CONTRARY, ALBANIANS BECAME ALLY WITH TURKS AGAINST GREECE. GREEK ARVANITES ARE EPIROTS (NORTH EPIROTS)
KRONOSELLAS 3 weeks ago
@KRONOSELLAS aravanites arbersh are Albanian u dumb idiot
1SoutheastEurope 3 weeks ago
@1SoutheastEurope ARVANITES WHO SAY THAT THEY ARE ALBANIANS , IN FACT THEY ARE ARVANITES WHO DENIED THEIR CHRISTIAN RELIGION AND BECAME TURKISH ALBANIANS. CHRISTIANS ARVANITES ARE ONLY GREEKS WITH STABLE GREEK CONSCIENCE
KRONOSELLAS 3 weeks ago
@KRONOSELLAS YPU BETTER ZIP YOUR MOUTH MY BEST FRIEND IS A CHRISTIAN ARVANITE AM AN CATHOLIC ALBANIAN ALSO SO WHAT MAKES ME GREEK YOU STUPID IDIOT AND HOW DARE YOU CALL US TURKS OUR HISTORY TELLS WHAT WE DID TO THEM AND ALBANIANS HAVE FULLY CONTRIBUTED TO THE LIBERATION OF GREECE CALLING US TURKS AND YOU BEING THE SAME LOOKING WITH THEM
1SoutheastEurope 3 weeks ago
@1SoutheastEurope WHAT HISTORY, I WONDER. WELL GIVE ME A NAME OF AN ALBANIAN HISTORIAN BEFORE 800 YEARS. IF YOUR FRIEND IS CHRISTIAN LET HIM READ THE WORDS OF THE MONUMENTS OF HIS FOREFATHERS IN NORTH EPIROS. ALBANIANS WERE ENEMIES OF GREECE, OTHERWISE WHY THEY DO NOT MAKE A UNION (NORTH EPIROS) WITH GREECE?
KRONOSELLAS 3 weeks ago
@KRONOSELLAS You want one name 900 hounded years ago i give you one even more older Marlin Barleti and shut the fuck up with your worthless propaganda this people are Greeks speaking the truth you fucking idiot
1SoutheastEurope 3 weeks ago
@1SoutheastEurope MARIN BARLETI: Author of Historia de vita et gestis Scanderbegi Epirotarum principis
WHY HE NAMED SKENDERBEI AS EPIROTARUM, AND NOT ALBANIAN OR SQIPTAR? I WILL GIVE SOME ADVICE LEARN GREEK IN ORDER TO UNDERSTAND THE HISTORY OF YOUR FOREFATHERS GREEKS, AND TO READ THE WORDS ON THE ANCIENT MONUMENTS OF NORTH EPIROS.
KRONOSELLAS 3 weeks ago
@KRONOSELLAS you are a fucking idiot,scanderbeg was cathlioc albanian again spoke gheg dilect to the pope,scanderbeg says hes prince of epirus because it is albanian land and all over albania.im sick of your filthy lies .modern greeks are mixed turkish,gheg albanians are white and that is how it suppoesed to be in balkans,
illyrianalbanian100 3 weeks ago
@KRONOSELLAS Listen you dumb idiot Sknaderbeg called him self an Albanian!
(Shqiptare lirine nuk ja u solla une por e gjeta midis jush) (Albanians i didn't bring freedom to you i founded here) Gjergj Kastrioti 1443!! Marlin Barleti was an Albanian catholic priest who wrote Gjergj Kastroti History after he died all world knows him as an Albanian except some Greeks who claims the world is Greece! Anyway what have you got to do with Scanderbeg he was Albanian catholic while Greeks have non Catholi
1SoutheastEurope 3 weeks ago
You see what you dont know is that computers do much for albanians and arbanties,,go to face book and join the albanians and arbanties agreeing who they are lol it is called RVANITES GLOBAL PAGE
illyrianalbanian100 3 weeks ago
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eraldb12 3 weeks ago
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illyrianalbanian100 3 weeks ago
@illyrianalbanian100 Vcox5J1BlH0 see what use do to our people
illyrianalbanian100 3 weeks ago
Pilos lol is not coned.the statues are the same as albanian. why we onlyones wearing ancient hats.not greeks.why because modern greks are mixed people
illyrianalbanian100 3 weeks ago
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The pileus (from Greek πῖλος - pilos, also pilleus or pilleum in Latin) was a brimless, felt cap worn by sailors in Ancient Greece[1] and later copied by Ancient Rome. The Greek πιλίδιον (pilidion) and Latin pilleolus were smaller versions, similar to a skullcap.
cobone2 3 weeks ago
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Albanians have borrowed many things from Greeks and thier culture..The Fustanella being another one..Do not think they are Albanian in orgins because Albanians still wear something like the pileus today..Most ancient Greeks that wore them wroe them under thier helmets...which BTW is a Greek word and Greek in origins...Nothing to do with Albanians....Look up a hat called a Papakhi look at the wool version of it..looks just like the Albanian one,,,see its orgins ...
cobone2 3 weeks ago
@cobone2 yer the fustenella another thing,Are you that retarded,Are you even watching this doco..LMAO,yer we borrwoed the pilos bahhah yer well then we must have thousands of years ago because i dont see any greek wearing them now,And if it wes greek then you would be wearing them,it is albanian plis not greek,HAHAH yer gergion nice try idiot,Greeks are square not coned you fool,
illyrianalbanian100 3 weeks ago
@cobone2 Your hats are more common with turks you idiot,,And i dont call them plis i call them Qeleshe.LESH means wool,as what it is made from by the way lesh is a very old word,And if you think that the georgins hat is same as albanian then you have issues,,From what i know papakhi is very much greek word PAPAKI WITCH MEANS DUCK,,FUNNY THAT,,THE ONLY GREEKS WHO WEAR THE PLIS ARE ASSIMULATED ALBANIAN AND THAT MY FRIEND IS A FUCKING FACT.
illyrianalbanian100 3 weeks ago
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eraldb12 3 weeks ago
@eraldb12 Why i bother vella because it kills me to see such propaganda from idiots who are brainwashed,,I dont hate all greeks just greeks like this derr,If he said this to me i would cut his balls off i am so angry,
illyrianalbanian100 3 weeks ago
@illyrianalbanian100 YOU SAY THAT BECAUSE ALBANIANS WEAR PILOS (PLIS) THEY ARE ILLYRIANS. LOOK , GREEKS HAVE A WRITTEN HISTORY AT LEAST 3000 YEARS. THEY HAVE SAVED THOUSANDS PAGES OF ANCIENT TEXTS. BECAUSE WE USE THEM IN SCHOOLS AND UNIVERSITIES THE LAST 3000 YEARS. IN MANY ANCIENT TEXTS, THEY ARE DESCRIBED GREEK TRADITIONS AND CUSTOMS AND ETHICS THAT ARE ALIVE UNTILL TODAY. HAVE ALBANIANS GOT ANY WRITTEN HISTORY?
KRONOSELLAS 3 weeks ago
@KRONOSELLAS tell me when we started using the albanian PLIS?You cant because we have used it ever since we have been in balkans,,Can you tell me when greeks stopped using the so called plis they say is theres?
illyrianalbanian100 3 weeks ago
@illyrianalbanian100 you also cant..lol the plis is albanians not greek, dont be silly..
illyrianalbanian100 3 weeks ago
@KRONOSELLAS If it is greek then only greeks would use it, but they dont even wear these at all only albanians speakers and that is fact,,
illyrianalbanian100 3 weeks ago
@illyrianalbanian100
You mean ASSIMILATED ALBANIAN,,LOL,Can you tell me something genius??If someone tried to ASSIMILATE YOU today what would you do???Bulgarians tried to ASSIMILATE Greeks and there was blood history show us this and tells us this..Where is all of this blood from Greek ASSIMILATING Albanians???It doesnt exist and never did.Arvanites or what ever name you wish to give them,NEVER identified as Albanians to the contrary they hated albanians with a passion...
cobone2 3 weeks ago
@cobone2 What would we do?Do the same thing as what we have done for long time,,Fight for our freedom keep our culture intact,speak our language no matter what teach our children our culture and teach them about the enemys of our people so they are aware of what may happen in the future,This is why we still speak our language,If arvanties say they were never albanian then why last year the arvantie league wanted to come out and say who they are but greek goverment gave death threats
illyrianalbanian100 3 weeks ago
@illyrianalbanian100
Arvanite league??You mean one man..Not the Arvanites themselves..And any death threats i guarante you they came from the Arvanites themselevs towards the presdent of the league at that time..He was pro Albanian..If you ask me he was an Albanian..and if he identified as one thats his business..
cobone2 3 weeks ago
@cobone2 By the way the romans had not used the plis but a hat that was not coned it had a point on the top that slopped toward the front,,,you fail..you just tryed to talk shit because you know very well north albanians are shorter than lower albanians plis so you tryed cunning to say our hats of north are latin because it is short and the taller ones are greeks,,But you see you filthy verom i know about this hat,,And i really hate greeks like you who theive,,NOT ALL GREEKS
illyrianalbanian100 3 weeks ago
Baaha. simple as this tosks are albanian not greek never were and never will be.tosks are just a south illyrian tribe. and ghegs upper illyrian tribe arbanties assimulated albanians thats all.*
illyrianalbanian100 3 weeks ago
One questions do the arvanites at the moment miks in marriage with other non arvanites,no needs for insult is just a questions, we Albanian don't like miks marriages we believe it weakens the blood.
albolondon 3 weeks ago
@albolondon
Yes they are mixing...
Axeldevil 3 weeks ago
@steleprezerake Lets have a DNA TESTING AND SEE HOW "greek" the arvanites are? Lets let facts that speak not BIG FAT GREEK LIARS! do you agree on that! The minister karaxhaferri is one of them! Test him and see how much "greek" blood he has!
albania1878 3 weeks ago
Lets have a DNA TESTING AND SEE HOW "greek" the arvanites are? Lets let facts that come from science speak not BIG FAT GREEK LIARS!
albania1878 3 weeks ago
Simply a greek chauvinist!
albania1878 3 weeks ago
@ steperezezeze you are asking me if there is a written document of albanian older than 500 years? I say we do not have one in our hands but that does not mean there isnt! We might have one that is not yet discovered! Languages have two dimensions; WRITTEN &SPOKEN! apaches here in USA to this day do not write their language but apaches speak APACHE to this day! I lived in arizona w them and thats a fact! I can give you plenty of facts but u will not be convinced because you are sim
albania1878 3 weeks ago
Democracy, Philosophy, Geometry, Mathematics, Science, Music, Theater, Drama, Comedy and many other things that separate human from monkey were discovered in GREECE by GREEKS. These are the facts and you are still brain-washed from the stupid lies that your ex-communist leader. I feel really sorry for you because I thought that racists are very few in my neighborhood.
steleprezerake 3 weeks ago
@steleprezerake
You started to sound like SlavoMacedonskis... they also pretend to be Macedonians... just like u neogreeks pretend to descend from Ancient Greeks...
Axeldevil 3 weeks ago
@steleprezerake Mathematics wrong,Music wrong.maths was not greek you fool it was just adopted by the world because it was easy,.music pfft do you really think use are the oldest in world bahahah,,you dont have any ancient instruments preserved NOW let alone in past..bahhah you silly pig,,
illyrianalbanian100 3 weeks ago
@illyrianalbanian100 hahaha We have MANY ancient instruments preserved, just you don't know because your level is so low. So maths were easy? and what is "pi"? or even the very word "mathematic" or "geometry"? are they albanians? lol Sorry, you are so stupid that I cannot keep talking. I like to communicate with humans, not with racist monkeys.
steleprezerake 3 weeks ago
@steleprezerake
ok so what does Mathematics means in greek?
Axeldevil 3 weeks ago
There is no such a thing as an albanian philosopher or mathematician, or scientist or any albanian discovery. You people are just blind from the racists lies that the previous communist government brain-washed you.
steleprezerake 3 weeks ago
yes, we need not convince no loser about our language - it is the only language that survived from the ancient paleo-Balkan peoples such as the Illyrians, Thracians, Dacians etc that's why it is a separate branch of the Indo-European tree of languages
lulejaa 3 weeks ago
Albanians are famous thieves. They stole the name of an ancient Greek tribe, the Illyrians, and they claim that they are Illyrians. They think that Alexander was Albanian lol I should spread these stories around because all people must have the right to laugh hahaha You are so uneducated and so petty that not even Greece couldn't teach you how to be a civilized human person. The word "Albanian" will be always an insult in human mind. But you can keep thinking that you are ancient hahaha monkeys
steleprezerake 3 weeks ago
@steleprezerake maybe you are a monkey ..one without a brain ..and we steal nothing but you are all so jealous ...maybe one day you will declare Albanians are not humans but ghosts - this is your level, really low
lulejaa 3 weeks ago
@lulejaa Even the letters that you used for writing your message are Latin, albanian thief. You never created even Letters and you claim that you own an ancient language? hahaha even words like "one" or "jealous" that you use in your stupid message are of GREEK origin, hahaha go back in your caves, barbarian monkeys
steleprezerake 3 weeks ago
@steleprezerake LOSER - I never claimed we invented latin letters?! wow! the letters you use now in Greek are copied from Phoenicians with some slight changes. Who is the thief now
lulejaa 3 weeks ago
@steleprezerake
Ancient Greeks Borrowed the Letters from Phoenicians... or maybe should I say the Pelasgians ... the ones that taught Greeks the worship of Pelasgian gods....
Axeldevil 3 weeks ago
@Axeldevil Athena or Gaia or Zeus were Albanian or Phoenician Gods, smartass? You know that "Pelasgos" is a Greek name? Pelasgian civilization was a young Greek civilization... I cannot imagine that there is such an uneducated person as you. I am really sorry for you.
steleprezerake 3 weeks ago
@steleprezerake
They were Pelasgian Gods... and pelasgians were not greeks...
Axeldevil 3 weeks ago
@steleprezerake
Illyrians were not greek... neither were Thracians or Epirots... maybe not even the Macedonians.... so before commenting ...read a little about history...
Axeldevil 3 weeks ago
@Axeldevil "History" is a GREEK word, albanian thief. So is Thacians, Epirots, Macedonians, Minoans etc. You just created stories about some "albanian ancient race" because no country respects you since you are just a bunch of thieves. I am surprised that you can even speak like humans!
steleprezerake 3 weeks ago
@steleprezerake
Go read some history cause ur talk is cheap and not based anywhere.....
Axeldevil 3 weeks ago
Lol our languge is older than the dic you idiot lol thats all you got Pathetic
illyrianalbanian100 3 weeks ago
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steleprezerake 3 weeks ago
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@illyrianalbanian100 Your language is a mixture of Latin letters and Italian, Greek, Turkish and Slavic words. It has one of the most poor vocabulary. The reason that you are somehow civilized is that Greece is near. You should thank Greece because if Greece was not near there, you would live like animals and speak like monkeys. At the beginning of 20th century, you used the Turkish flag but now you claim that you are the people of the eagle, hahaha you are so pathetic!
steleprezerake 3 weeks ago
@steleprezerake hahah yes maybe we have some influence from them,But please muthafuka you have over 12.000 turkish words in your shitful language and way more than what albanians have and will ever its funny.go take a hard look in the mirror you turkish mongol.Even with the infusion in our language we still have much native language,We have old latin and some old church slav just little.but then we have illyrian,thracian,and little dacian,and doric..you see pig
illyrianalbanian100 3 weeks ago
@illyrianalbanian100 You just a typical racist greekish turkish mongol NOT ALL GREEKS but ones like you who are ugly looking turks,You greeks also held the turkish flag and you still drink there coffee and theword milk in greek is infact turkish word so the trukish coffee you drink and the milk you ask for is 1000 pure turkish,,hahah mumec
illyrianalbanian100 3 weeks ago
The claim that souliotes fought for greek indpdnc its a BIG FAT GREEK LIE! They fought against the turks and ali pasha as they had done for centuries ! Independence for the arvanite from the turk so the greks could enslave and assimilate them????? No !Souliote fought to defend their identity and the arvanite culture and never fought for greek indp!it was just a coincidence and greeks used it!
albania1878 3 weeks ago
@ djvasiliqi arvanites was a tribe inside the ottoman territory which is now inside greece! They spoke albanian just like the other tribes LIVING IN THAT REGION! TOSK LAB CHAM ARVANITe the main tribes !they called themselves arvanite not greek not albanian but their mother tongue was albanian!
albania1878 3 weeks ago
@steleprezerake where do you base your opinion ??? No albanian language you say ?? Well try to understand this : te qifsha rracen tende te qelbur!
albania1878 3 weeks ago
@albania1878 can you tell me of a written proof of the albanian "language" older than 500 years? Besides, you don't have even your own letters: Like everything, you stolen the Latin letters from Italy and you think that you have an ancient language! Arvanites were NOT Albanians because if they were, they would called simply "Albanians". We call the Greeks from Epirus as "Arvanites". "Albania" was unknown that time, because it didn't exist as a race and country.
steleprezerake 3 weeks ago
@steleprezerake
1)For Ancient language see research of any linguist ...it is considered one of most ancient languages in the world...
2)Arvanites were Albanians and came from Albania to Greece...
3)The Arvanites/Albanians of Epirus are indigenous and call themself Shqiptar...
4)Albanian race exist ..cause of tribe system until lately...
5)Greek race doesn't exist... cause its Arvanitovlahoslavomikrasiatic "race"...
Axeldevil 3 weeks ago
@Axeldevil Albanian race is a mixture from many countries, and they are originated from Azerbaijan. You have nothing to present to human civilization, such as science, philosophy, language, theatre, culture. You don't have even respect among other countries. All people think that albanian=thief. You have nothing so you want to steal our history... You are so pathetic... can't you see that all humans laugh because of your stupidity?
steleprezerake 3 weeks ago
@steleprezerake nobody cares what you think of us - you're just an irrelevant stupid and uneducated person full of himself - just be careful jealousy will make you sick one day LOSER - what counts are facts and the fact is Arvanites=Albanians..the rest of your garbage sentences are for the trash bin
lulejaa 3 weeks ago
@lulejaa yeah, whatever, albanian monkey. The facts are that the albanians do NOT have any history and you are very upset about that. Another fact is that Arvanites are GREEKS. Another fact is that when your people came to Greece, they came as a disease; they never had a legal job, just sell drugs and the women were working as prostitutes (very cheap prostitutes by the way, because they are so much ugly and dirty).
steleprezerake 3 weeks ago
@steleprezerake we dont have much history because we lived sicluded from you pigs and other and lived in tribes still.But we happy to live like that monkey boy.
illyrianalbanian100 3 weeks ago
@steleprezerake
Azerbaijan my ass. were did u learn your history? in a cave? cause all u say is total bullshit with no historic/linguistic base what so ever...
Should I remind u that During Byzantine times 1/3 of Greece population was Albanian?
or that all of Thessaly was inhabited from Vlachs? maybe I should remind u that in lozane treaty u brought 1.500.000 asians imigrants from Turkey in exchange of 500.000 muslim europeans..
Axeldevil 3 weeks ago
@Axeldevil even your nickname (devil) is of a GREEK origin, poor albanian monkey. Azerbaijan is where you came from; still now there is a place called "albania" at Azerbaijan. Also Vlachs are GREEKS and sorry, you cannot change that fact. Byzantine civilization was GREEK - ROMAN and not albano-monkey. Besides there was not any "albania" that time. The "asian immigrants" living in Turkey were GREEKS from Ionia and they lived there thousands of years hahaha you are a funny little monkey
steleprezerake 3 weeks ago
@steleprezerake
Oh my!!! Greeks? ahahahah they were ASIANS.. stupid ... thats why they are Black with Asiatic features...just like Turks mr. neogreek.... There is no Greek race in Greece.... you are all bastards just like u steleprezerake...
Axeldevil 3 weeks ago
@Axeldevil they were Asians because they lived in Asia? You are so stupid. It's called "Asia Minor" and it's full of GREEK and ROMAN RUINS, hahaha. You mean that the black people of USA are pure Americans and not Africans? lol
steleprezerake 3 weeks ago
@steleprezerake turks are from asia minor aswell that is why use look so much same,,half of greeks are turksh mongols who converted to christian,,
illyrianalbanian100 3 weeks ago
@illyrianalbanian100 Turks are mongols. Their DNA is Mongolian. Greeks are Europeans. Albanians are European-Slav-Mongol mixture. Racists like you are monkeys.
steleprezerake 3 weeks ago
@steleprezerake bahahah yer we are mongols yep so much then why do you greeks look like turks?why are use very dirty looking and hairy.Your eyes are dark,albanians are european no mongol there pig only you greeks look mongol and speak over 12,000 turkish mongol NOW THATS A MIXTURE,my little dark gypsy the only greeks who are eurpoean in balkans are the ones who have hazel green eyes and brown hair not dark hair gypsy looking like you..
illyrianalbanian100 3 weeks ago
@steleprezerake
Turk DNA is Mongolian? ahahahahah u idiot think that Turks that came to Turkey from Steppes were much more numerous than local population? braindead...
Axeldevil 3 weeks ago
@steleprezerake
The exchange was based on religion and not ethnic origin u stupid ass... thats why many of these that came to greece were not greek speakers... in contrary many muslim "greeks" were baptized turks and were send to Turkey... just like Greeks Muslims of Crete... stupid...
Axeldevil 3 weeks ago
@Axeldevil and cyprus.they are still there alex..
illyrianalbanian100 3 weeks ago