All of you people are retards.. you all think the Thracians packed their shit one day and were like alright we are out of this area..? If you look at any other country that has a long history it has been in one place for a while same with their cultures.. This whole stupid theory of Bulgarians being mongols and slavs and invading the area is pathetic. Bulgarians evolved from Thracians
The "slaves" is Skandinavians (Serbs/Slovens/Chez/Polaks/Slovaks/Rusians/Belorusians/Ukarins) who live thousands of year around Bulgaria and have learned to speak in broken Bulgarian.Bulgarian language is very old and very rich.Before thousand years 3 bulgarians Odin,Perun and Valhala was Gods of this peoples. On Ura-Ara/ARIA/Bulgaria "Balkans" have only Bulgarian DNA "skeletons" more from 200 000years(under the bottom of Black sea including). This must to know!
@sergiomarchelli chyrillic alphabet is thracian? O_____________O"' WOW. OK yeah whatever you say bro. as long as I've seen and I've visited bulgaria a lot of times it looks like they have more of a russian culture mixed with turkish rather than Thracian. Ugh just because you find evidence of Thracian empire on your current territory doesn't mean you descended from them unless you have evidence proving that you've been there for more than 6,000
@K0rTexXx SORRY FOR LATE REPLY..IM ALBANIAN NOT TURK,I DONT HAVE DARK SKIN OR DARK EYES I DONT SPEAK TURK I SPEAK A LANGUAGE THAT PRE DATES YOURS,I HAVE WORDS IN MY LANGUAGE THAT IS AROUND 6000BC,MOST OF MY LANGUAGE IS PRE INDO EUROPEAN,ALL OF YOU SERBS GREEKS BULGARIAN,JUST JELOUSE ALBANIANS ARE THE ONLYONES LEFT WHO SPEAK A ANCIENT LANGUAGE YOU MAY THINK OUR WHOLE LANGUAGE IS BORROWED BUT I CAN TELL YOU KNOW WE HAVE MORE NONE BORROWED WORDS THAN BORROWED,,
@chickensupdude u mom is slav....bulgarians are thracians!Actually last DNA researches show that 50% from bulgarian DNA is thracian!For example romanians have more small thracian DNA and more slavic!But however, I believe that bulgarians and romanians are thracian brothers!
This Bulgarian grave is from 8 000 years , in all Balkan and antolia have thousands (most old whu discover by to day is 12 000years) Bulgaria is the Center of Culture - bath ti day escape from Egipt before 3800-4000 Juws whu colonized south Bulgaria "Elada", and managed U.S. to day write false History
there is thraians everywhere, but they live first is here this is god's land - so stop the stupid talking - if someone is thraian he must prove it , this is all , believe in tangra |Y| why bulgarians not post comments only you stupid earth people are burning your small brains - what is this what you see in the video??? things wich you will never find how they work !!!!
@maloumie23 oK I AM ALBANIAN AND I HAVE HUNDREDS OF THRACIAN WORDS IN MY LANGUAGE THAT NO BULGARIANS HAVE,BUT SINCE MY DACIAN ROMANIAN BROTHERS WHO HAVE THESE SAME WORDS JUST PROVES THAT IF A NATION WHO IS CLAIMING TO BE THRACIAN THEN THEY ALSO WOULD SHARE THESE THRACIAN WORDS I HAVE WITH ROMANIANS,,BULGARIANS ARE TURKISH SLAVNIC,,THAT IS ALL..
@ktm066 JUST LIKE EVERY INTIRE SLAVNIC PEOPLE THEY BELIVE THEY HAVE A BIG PART OF THE BALKANS ANCIENT PEOPLE BUT NONE OF USE DONT,sLAVS SAY ALBANIANS ARE GYPYSYS BUT THE FACT THAT IN MY LANGUAGE I HAVE THRACIAN,ILLYRIAN,PELASGAIN,ESTRUCAN AND DARDANIAN IN MY LANGUAGE PROVES I AM FROM HERE BUT SINCE ALL THESE LANGUAGES INFLUENCED EACHOTHER,IT IS HARD FOR US TO KNOW WHO WE ARE MOST LIKEY DARDANIAN,
@ktm066 just time is cheating us , origin of human race is Bulgarians wich haved 12 countries at the same time with name Bulgaria from thousands years before Christ and hundreds years after located from Asia to the last Bulgaria where are we now, we are mix from this races bulgar-tracian , whole world has bulgarian words, half asia talking our languige .All races from China to west are mixture of bulgarians and tribes trough their way.Bulgarian history is very complex..not TURKISH.. peace bro
@maloumie23 read this book please The Cambridge Ancient History.you will find much.The Fourth Century B.C..Chapter 9d: Illyrians and North-west Greeks.
@maloumie23 There's no nedd of proof for every one. The One who is given- will have it! By the way, these beautiful songs are sung only by nowadays Bulgarians and some of their neghbours - ex-BUlgarians... NObody else! Noe Eastern "Volga Bulgarian", no "Greek" - except ex-bulgarians. As per "things wich you will never find how they work !!!!
luboteni, I just wanted to se your reaction on Caucasian Albania and to see if you know something more about the subject. I don´t have special intentions. Bulgars were called with many names, and Alban is one of them, since Northern Caucasus was one of former Bulgar territories where they lived. This is the 1: possible connection between Bulgars and Albans. Illyricum was only a name of geographical region not ethnic name.
Second conection is that Albania was a part of the Bulgarian Empire. What is interesting here, is that when Proto-Bulgars (known as Scythians) came back to their distant brothers, the Thracians, they started to unite all Thraco-Illyrians and expanded the new State Bulgaria from the Black sea to the Adriatic and the Egeian. It was easy for them, because they united related people against the Roman hegemony. Thracians were known since times imemorial, that they could not unite.
Same destiny finaly reached the Bulgarians the lack of unity was the reason why Bulgarians first fell for a while to the Byzantines (during 1:st Bulgarian Empire) and later to te Ottomans. If these Empires did not get the luck and the opportunity, Bulgaria would today be stretched from the Black sea to Adriatic and Egeian. Hence, that the former shape of the Bulgarian Balkan Empire, when it was as largest, corresponded to the shape of territories where exactly Thracians lived.
By the way, Illyricum was not only in todays Albania it was a bit biger. And Illyricum as a whole was populated predominantly by Bulgars. Bulgarians, Pelasgians, Mycenians, Macedonians, Moesians were same people of same stock, and called Thraco-Illyrians. The word Albania did not yet exist in ancient times, so they were called federatively Illyrians.
- Conserning Western names, usually they copied it from Balkan, Europe and Asia especially Americans. For example there is also Montana in North-Western Bulgaria. Europeid is replaced with Caucasoid. Alexandria, Pitsburg, New Orleans, Phoenix, Annapolis, Manchester, etc, are copies. Nothing is coincidental. It is about adoption.
@ktm066 This spa05akw is a complete idiot,,Scythians were a turkish tribes,samatia,In cuacasus region.Scythians came to thrace they were not from thracians,,Like evey tribe everyone migrates well not everyone,,Scythia Minor name was lost by the migrating bulgarians and slavs,,
By the way, there are many clearly examples of using of this name like in Scotland (which in Middle Age was called Alba (or Albion); an another city of Roman Era near today's London was called Albany; the mountains near Roma are called ALBA; a few villages in southern France are called also Albany. Finally, even the capital of New York federal state is called Albany? Should we assuming that Albanians came from:
- I was thinking for a while, and I would like to add sometning. I know that officially there was no concrete migration of Albans to Balkan. But in fact, there was migration. Proto-Bulgars migrated from Caucasus and are still here since the 4th century. As far as I know, the word Albania is adopted later.
The pseudotheory of Caucasian Origin of Albanians is invented by Greek and Serbian Propaganda. They trying to show us (Albanians) as comers from Caucasus, but yet now they does not showed any relevent proof, I mean any linguistic/anthropologic, cultural or ethnographic proof. The confidenciality of having common names is not sufficient to believe that Albanians came from there. Furthermore, there are a lot of examples showing the widely using of 'Albania' name.
You speaked about Galerius . Probably you would also revendicate him , but he changed the name of the roman empire in the dacian empire !! He say that he hate the name of roman , because the moust population in the empire is thracian and daccian. He give liberty to christianity at the end of his reign
- That is true. Galerius was un-Roman and Balkan was mostly Thracian, but Daccia was just a district - not Empire. If it was so, Constantine would make Daccia as second Romans empire and not Byzantion (ancient Thracian city at the Bosporus).
- You say thracian AND daccian. So I asume you are not sure if Daccians were Thracians.
• Greek historian Herodotus (5th century BC) divided the Scythians in two parts, Scythians and Cimmerians who lived around Meotis at the Cimmerian channel. Comment: That is in Europe!
Procopius informs further, that those who were called Cimmerians are called now Huns. These who were called Scythians in old times, are now called Goths (Not German newcomers!) or Getes.
It doesn't matter if scytians had similar coustums like thracians , because they probablye borow the thracians clothes like other stuffs. Thracians speakead rumanian(daccian) , at this conclusion come a lot of scientific people. Romanian is a latin languace , unlike hungarian hunic , bulgarian. This is a proof that it's almoust imposible that thracians to be huns or bilgarians.
Mate, it seems that you know well about Thracians! I would like to know your opinion: Do you think that Illyrians and Thracians were kindred with one another, although they had their own entities?
- Yes, Thracians and Illyrians were same people, and they were ANCIENT BULGARIANS! Macedonia and Illyria was populated by Bulgarians since times immemorial. Macedonians were also same, since they were Thraco-Illyrians. Only Greeks were later invadors and much younger who took over Thracian history and made it own. PLAGIARISM!
Sorry buddy, but to say that Illyrians were ancient Bulgarians seems to be very hyberbolical since no historical record mention any ties between Illyrians and Bulgarians. I don't know much things about history of Bulgarians, since I've not reading for such issues, but Bulgarians may have some Thracian blood, but majority of them is with several origin like scythian or other central asiatic people (for example people near Pamiri). IN what you are based for your opinion?
- luboteni, I do not opine anymore but conclude. Ok, my opinion is based on many sources - especially ancient Roman and Byzantine, and of cource ancient Bulgarian that is not so in contrast to these mentioned. I have posted ancient quotations, but you don´t read them and I am not fond of repeating myself. My quotations are clear, and Thracians were indeed ancient European Bulgarians. these never migrated to Asia. Though tere were Thracians who migrated to Asia and a part of them came back.
- luboteni, and Thracians were Scythians! The lands of Thracians were called big Scythia (N. Ponticus to Altai) and little Scythia (in today´s modern Bulgaria). This is only a small example of many other.
Yes. I know it is Little Scythia. The Pontic area, North to the Black sea" was the Big Scythia. Wherefrom Dobrudja are you? My mother is from The Valley of the Thracian kings, also called the "Valley of roses". More precisely from Kazanlak.
- luboteni, ancient European local Bulgarians were Thraco-Illyrians. And Macedonia was also located in Illyria. But go back and read all my comments in behind. Btw, did you know that real Albania is located in Northern Caucasus?
spa05akw, I know for a region called Albania in Northern Caucasus? But which is your intention by mention of this fact? Noone doubted that a region with the name of Albania, was also in Northern Cacuasus (somwhere between today's Azerbejan and Dagestan). But, if your goal is to say that Albanians are orginated for there, is entirely foolish since there is no historical record to witness about any arrival of Albanians in Balkan Peninsula.
- luboteni, I can send you one more quotation that I did not send.
• Laonicus Chalkondyles: the Triballians were THE MOST ANCIENT AND GREATEST OF ALL NATIONS. He said further: They are now being called Bulgarians (Op. cit, col. 26). Strabo confirms that Triballians were Thracians. And Dio Cassius considered Triballians and the Dardanians as Mysians (Bulgarians). Because all Latin sources equate Moesians with Bulgarians.
- I know that few describe Huns as little and ugly. A SUBJECTIVE description made by the ENEMIES a fucking mythology. In fact Huns were not that. HUN is a Federative name for Türc-Altaic tribes (Alans, Scytho-Sarmatians, Proto-Bulgars, etc) and were of all sizes just like today in all countries. Alans, for example were dark, but Sarmatians were blond. Ancient Türks were white with blue eyes, and so on. Don´t be to exhilarated by biology proves NOTHING. I am not interested in Legends.
Little Huns would never conquer the world from the Pacific to the Adriatic sea. Secondly, the main stricking power of the Huns were Bulgars and here what said the Arab chronist when he cried: 10 of our men cannot overcome 1 Bulgarian. Furthermore, in the Middle Ages, Huno-Bulgars were 1.75 cm tal (average) while the rest of the ppl were 1.60 cm. Alans were also tal and blond, and a Bulgar dynasty.
- HUNS were Confederation of different tribes and Clans/Dynasties. Btw, most REAL books do not describe biological the Huns at all, despite they lived in Illyricum and Thrace for centuries. Huns lived on Balkan, Romania, Hungary, Ukraine, Southern Germany before Khan Asparukh came (the founder of Modern Bulgaria).
Huns cannot have been ugly, or whatever. Bulgarians are beautiful especially the women with the Central Asian feature.
- Since HUNS were direct descendants of Sumerians (One of the world´s most ancient civilization), they cannot have been little and ugly with small eyes.
- Scythians first and later HUNS populated Scandinavium when this region had a very little amount of people in BC and are not described as little and ugly with small eyes.
• The name HUN is already mentioned in the 1-2dn century in Daccia (Romania) and the region around Danube.
• Procopios from Cesarea (500-565) wrote: In the ancient times the HUNS, kutriguri and utiguri, were known as Cimmerians, and they lived in the lands near to Babylonia (Celts were also known as Cimerians)
You've nothing to do with any Thracians. You are VLACHS, which derrive from the Hellenic word Vlasat. The Greeks call you Kutsou Vlachs which mean lame shepherds. The Bulgarians, Croats and Serbs call you CINCARI which in Iranian mean primitive shepherd, the Turkish call you CHOBANS which in their language mean lame shepherds. Your state was called Vlachia up untill 1859 when for political purposes you were latinized and lost your identity.
- No, Thracians spoke different languages. Moesian (ancient Bulgarian) is one of them. Thracians also spoke Türkic dialect. According to linguistics, Homeros and Illiad was not written in Greek but a Türkic dialect. Ancient Türkic and ancient Iranian are world´s oldest languages.
- Do you have wax in your ears? I said that a part of Thracians became Huns (Scythians) and that there were European and Asian Thracians. Huns are direct descendants of Sumerians/Mesopotamia. The word Hun appeared for the 1:st time in the 4th c. from Caucasus. So they had other names before - they did not drop directly from heaven like the Koran.
Dracula was Cuman who's state was influenced by Bulgaria. His capital was called Turgovishte; mean marketplace in Bulgaria. Rumeni don't know their history.
The Rumeni in search of an identity HA HA HA HA. Nobody wants to be related to them! Tell the Latins they are related to the Rumeni and they are all up in arms. Nobody likes you very much Rumeni, why don't you go to your forums?
For bulgarians: I see you hate romanians , but speak about thracians(romanians are thracians) . You say that you too come from thracians. But rumanians (unlike bulgarians) are spread all over europe :Istroromanians , aromanians etc and a lot of vilages found even in cehia , eastern ukraine all speaking rumanian languace . Bulgarians must learn more history , original documents , not stupid propaganda made by some fucking idiots.
1. I do not hate Romanians. But I hate when they attack Great Bulgarian history and deny it. They call Bulgars names, so I started to use same attitudes.
Nu-ți mai bate capul,dobitocului ăsta(spa-chiar și numele îi pus pe "relaxare") i-am corectat toate prostiile și tot pe a lui o ține!Am ajuns să-l înjur doar ca să-mi mai vărs năduful dar tontul nici asta nu știe s-o facă!Dobitocul e bulgar de acum 15000 de ani:)))) asta crede,lasă-l așa!Ce-ți toarnă ție acum mi-a scris și mie la fel..
1. Vlahia was Ottoman, but since they were poor shephards and did not make a freat to the Ottomans they got authonomy to some degree.
2. Istnbul is Bulgarian. Istan BUL = The high tower of the Bulgars. Constantinopel was populated by many Bulgarians. Constantinopel renamed to Istan-BUL, not to Istan-VALAH or Istan-Graeco! Hahah
3. Many Turks themselves were killed by Ottomans. This Moron sorin, does not know what she is talking about.
- You did NOTHING, Mongrels. Bulgarians saved themselves without you. And you Romanians in quotation were saved also from the Ottomans, since you were their subjects.
1. Vlahia was Ottoman, but since they were poor shephards and did not make a freat to the Ottomans they got authonomy to some degree.
2. Istanbul is Bulgarian. Istan BUL = The high tower of the Bulgars. Constantinopel was populated by many Bulgarians. Constantinopel renamed to Istan-BUL, not to Istan-VALAH or Istan-Graeco! Hahah
3. Many Turks themselves were killed by Ottomans. This Moron sorin, does not know what she is talking about.
4. Bulgaria above all! Have survived Rom, Byzantium and Ottoman. They will never return, but Bulgaria will still be the Conquerors and biggest fighters.
5. Bulgarians allways win, as the history have shown!
1.V lahia was Ottoman, but since they were poor shephards and did not make a freat to the Ottomans tey got authonomy to some degree.
2. Istanbul is Bulgarian. Istan BUL = The high tower of the Bulgars. Constantinopel was populated by many Bulgarians. Constantinopel renamed to Istan-BUL, not to Istan-VALAH or Istan-Graeco! Hahah
3. Many Turks themselves were killed by Ottomans. This Moron sorin, does not know what she is talking about.
- You did NOTHING, Mongrels. Bulgarians saved themselves without you. And you Romanians in quotation were saved also from the Ottomans, since you were their subjects.
Fucking toe,you should kiss our statues for saving your retched ass from turks..you were slaves in The Otoman Empire, a carpet for the shoes of every pasha in the Balkans..and look at you now! Mighty tracians and ancient bulgars,conquerers of Troy..you make me sick,thats how big of a fool you are
- sorin1918, look who is talking, you are racist yourself since you are here attacking Great Bulgarian history. I came here only to DEFEND aginst your attacks. You don´t know history better than Bulgarians, so you have nothing to teach. You were not invited to this site. Nobody wants your PRIVATE ignorant opinions without historical sources.
4. Bulgaria above all! Have survived Rom, Byzantium and Ottoman. They will never return, but Bulgaria will still be the Conquerors and biggest fighters.
5. Bulgarians allways win, as the history have shown!
6. romanians live on former Bulgar, Hun and Slavic land. There was no Romania before the Ottoman period, nor during.
Gypsie are also survivers of all this empires,and the top most growing population in Bulgaria.I wonder what they will call themselfs in the future?Descendents of ancient bulgars?:)))) Freedom fighters against vlach opressors:)))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))stupidity runs wild in Bulgaria this days,must be something in the air!
1. Vlahia was Ottoman, but since they were poor shephards and did not make a freat to the Ottomans they got authonomy to some degree.
2. Istanbul is Bulgarian. Istan BUL = The high tower of the Bulgars. Constantinopel was populated by many Bulgarians. Constantinopel renamed to Istan-BUL, not to Istan-VALAH or Istan-Graeco! Hahah
3. Many Turks themselves were killed by Ottomans. This Moron sorin, does not know what she is talking about.
The Balkans were called Roman Empire of Constantinople before you shitheads came here.This vlachs you spit soo hard still speak a latin language,have a distinct culture and are the real natives of this Balkan peninsula..and you are an incompetent fool with this istan freak notion,don't you have no shame?
you made me laugh!!!! Are you a circus worker, VLACH? HA HA HA HA CLOWN! The nomad shepherds were nowhere to be seen until Byzantines and Bulgarian historiographers mentioned their primitive stock moving around the highlands in search for new pastures. You don't even know where you came from mamaligar. VLACH clown
Did you ever heard about romans that made The Eastern Roman Empire,you piss of shit? Romans made the Balkans what is today when your ancestors were milking horses and fucking goats around Volga river
Why use my comments you thick inbred sub human choban? 2 bob brainless cunt! The Balkans are Bulgaro-Hellenic; the two cultures present on the peninsula. Apes like you from artificial states should not bother with our history. Nobody takes you seriosly VLACH baboon. now fuck off you inbred stinking transhumant parasite
you are biological misapprehension VLACH clown, conceived between the copulation of a goat and choban. Your lunacy is beyond belief. 2 bob - no history, no culture, no brains
4. Bulgaria above all! Have survived Rom, Byzantium and Ottoman. They will never return, but Bulgaria will still be the Conquerors and biggest fighters.
5. Bullgarians allways win, as the history have shown!
6. romanians live on former Bulgar, Hun and Slavic land. There was no Romania before the Ottoman period, nor during.
4. ulgaria above all! Have survived Rom, Byzantium and Ottoman. They will never return, but Bulgaria will still be the Conquerors and biggest fighters.
5. ulgarians allways win, as the history have shown!
6. rmanians live on former Bulgar, Hun ad Slavic land. There was no Romania before the Ottoman period, nor during.
General Vitalianus - Flavius Aetius -Belizarie (this one fight for justinian I)- Traian(casius dio-roman historian - said ,,and let's not forget that traian is a veritable thracian'') - and many others . Some historians belive that it's very possible that more than half of all the roman emperors were thraco-dacians because a lot of them are born in (today timok) eastern hungary etc. For example : aurelian , the one who retreated the roman army from dacia was a dacian .
2. Nit Romanians, but Bulgarians are spread all over Europe. Furthermore, Bulgars were as many as the sand in the sea (Khazarian source, Josif). Pannonia, Daccia, the 2 Moesias, Macedonia, Thessalia, Epirus, Illiricum, Volga-Kama region, Ukraine (Old Great Bulgaria), Central Asia, Near East, Anatolia, Moldava, Besarabia, and others were populated by old Bulgarians.
3. Romanians must learn true history since Bulgaian history is greatest and definitelly greater than Romanian. You cannot deny or steal Bulgarian history calling it Romanian. Period. Not discutible!
4. Átilla was one of Bulgarian greatest. Tsar Simeon was another who had almost whole Balkan, Romania, Transylvania and a part of Hungary. Khan Asparukh was who defeated the Romans and Byzantium. You are nothing - you just obeyed te Bulgar khans or were killed. Tervel was another who defeated and slaughtered 100 000 Arab army. Khan Krum terrible was another Bulgar from whom you and Byzantium trembled. tc, etc, etc.
... Arab army... and saved Europe including your romanian ASES! Bulgarians also helped to save Europe from the Ottoman Islamic conquest. You are just ungrateful COCKROACHES who deny and minimize great Bulgar history.
5. Vlad Tepes was just barbarian blood sucker and is lucky that he did not live during Khan Asparukh´s time. He would be crushed in NO TIME, just like he crushed Great Rum /Byzantium.
6. I dn´t understand why you want to be Romans. Romans were fucking brutal BARBARIANS, SUCKERS AND EXPLOITERS whose capital Rom was created by ancient Bulgarians (Etruscans). But stil, you have nothing to do woth Romans.
7. Thracians were ancient Bulgarians, not Romanians. Don´t steal history that does not belong to you. Daccia was newly populated by Slavs and Gypsies. You are Vlahs that s shephards. Not worriors. Greatest warriors were Bulgars who fucked Romans together with the Bulgar forefathers Átillas Bulgars.
Attila the hun is bulgarian? So you are thracians and huns? Or huns are thracians? Man , it doesn't make any sense . All world knows that above all nations , romanians are sure thracians. And about romans , they captured only 1/4 of our countrye and at least I don't want to be roman. I know that they destroy our captal(sarmisegetuza) - the head of the spiritual thracian land. They take our gold (which was more than the gold of the egipt after many historians)
- I se you are confused. It is nly because you are very ignorant of history - especially ancient Bulgarian. Pity you. These Asian Thracians became Huns, yes. You know nothing about Bulgarian or Thracian history. You shpuld be quite before you learn some ABC of Bulgarian-Thracian history.
• Dimitar Homatian (XII-XIII AD): This Bulgarians are European Moeses [] successors [] Pannonia, Dalmatsia, Thrace and Illyric [] Macedonia and Tessalia (It is Bulgarians not Romanians, Greeks or Slavs!)
• According to Magnus Felix Ennodius (473-521) Bulgarians are Old Thraco-Ilyrians (Not Romanians, Greeks or Slavs!)
How do you dare to say that I steal bulgarians history? In the worst case (for romanians) you would be two thracians like rumanians. Do you want to begin writing you about some greek antique historie that show that we are thracians? And about istanbul , remember , that his original name was constantinople (after a daccian name , constantin).
• On the map, kept in British museum, created in 4th century by St. Jerome (331-420) it is written the name of Bulgarian lands in ancient times Misia hec et Vulgaria (Misia, namely Bulgaria / Misia, here is Bulgaria). This map was created on basis of older maps by Eusebius of Caesarea (270-338) called Father of the Church history (There existed No Romania on the map!)
• Joan Malala (Byzantine source) wrote in the VI century about the Troyan war: And Achilles departed with the Artidies, [] army of 3000 people, who were called Mirmidons at this time, and now are called Bulgarians (No Romanians are mentioned in BC!).
- The history is my guide and you cannot deny ancient Roman, Byzantine, Assyrian, Syrian, Hebrew, Armenian, Arab, Volga Bulgarian, etc, sources. If you deny people who were born before you and know much more than you, than you would be an ECHOING CYMBAL, and pathetic. You can not invent your own Romanian history. Your history is Bulgarian mostly. Period.
- Speaking of the wich, I am just writing about the founder of Constantinople, one of the chapters in my future book. Constantine was indeed Thracian but he was born and raised in Nish (a Thracian Dardanian city that is ancient Bulgarian). He completed his education in Nicomedia at the court of Galerius, a Thracian emperor born in Serdica (Sofia, Bulgaria). Daccia was a district and not the heart of Thrace that is why he moved Rom to Thracian city Byzantion.
12. The Bosporus was anient Bulgarian, so in Byzantion lived many ancient Bulgarian Thracians. It was renamed to Istan-BUL because there lived ancient Bulgarians.
- Oh, man, I must disappoint you. No single country believng Romanians are Thracians - only Romanians themselves. And even if they were Thracians, Daccians are not yet considered 100% as Thracians. Furthermore, Americans and other distant nations does not even know where Romania, Bulgaria or Sweden is located geographically. Some cannot differ btw Bul and Rom. They don´t know that Bulgaria is a neighbour also with another countries. And some ppl think the capital of Bulgaria is Buckarest.
8. Continuing about your confusion... There were European Thracians and Asian Thracians. A part of Thracians migrated from Balkans 2-3000 BC and reached Turkestan, and further. This Asiatic Thracians came back in the name of Scythian Proto-Bulgarians. European Bulgarians (Thracian Moesians) united easilly with their Asian brothers against the Roman opressor and Byzantium. Bulgars did not unite with any imaginary Slavs, but with distant brothers - European Thracians with Asian.
10. Huns were white Scythians. Scythians were very related to Thracians and had similar customs, etc. Thracians were also Scythians (Scyth = bow shooter).
11. Thracians originate from Bulgar ancient state IDEL (Ural-Itil), from the Uralic region 15 000 BC. Moved to Carpathian basin, Cenral Europe, Balkans, Anatolia, Apennines, Near East and other parts of the world. As a memory there remained a village in Volga Bulgaria (Now Chuvashja) called Thrace.
Your afirmation are almoust incredible. Huns were thracians . Some roman historians described the huns like small creatures , very very ugly(sorry - you found that even in the book ,, The enemies of Rome'') , small eyes etc. The way the trachians are described by greeks and romans , is almoust the oposite describe of huns. Thracians are tall , strong people. Blond , blue-eyed (probabli a big part of them) , very beautiful , and with silky hair unlike huns .
Magog , Tiras ... . Did you hear about this people? Magog the father of scytians , and Tiras the father of thracians . You found that in the bible at noe. Noe has 3 sons. 1 of them , IAFET , has a lot of sons from which comes a lot of nations. 2 of the iafet's sons are the thracians and the scytians. So the Bible say that scytians and thracians are two diferent nations
- Scythians and Thracians were not different people, becase they belonged to same family. We can talk about different tribes and clans. One example: Alans, Khazars, Scythians, Sarmats, Cumans etc, were same people, but different Clans. These were initially personal names: Alan, Khazar, Scyth, Sarmat, Cuman. The followers (hords) of these leaders got the common name of their personal names.
We are not talking about different people. In old times, the sons of a father/leader received/inherited a certain amount of people who would follow the new leader. The oldest son used to get the biggest horde of people, the youngest got smallest part of his people, etc.
These Leaders and their inherited SHARE went their own way and did whatever they had to do. That is, the same people could disperse and make own States, etc, on their own. They also fought each other in wars. Family wars!
About the getes from north-eastern bulgaria . Now in north eastern bulgaria are a lot of romanian people. In ww2 , when ou recaptured the cadrilaterul from romanians , there was 40%rumanians and only 30 % bulgarians .
- Lol, todays census is not any proof of ancient history. First of all, before the Ottoman invasion most of Romania - especially the coast at the Black sea belonged to Bulgaria. A small part of Dobrudza was just returned back in WW2,after Romanians have moved there. Turks also moved to Bulgaria. The southern Bulgaria is full of Turks. It means not that Bulgaria was initially Turkey. Secondly, people moved forth and back during Ottomans and all people are not living on their original land.
In europe it have been discovered many times people in mountains , caves etc who speaked and speak a similar languace to romanians. They was actualy thracians but the people call them vlachs.
• In A short life of Climent by Dimiter Homatian (Archbishop of Ohrid from 1216 to about 1234): On this same day, June 27, in memory of our saintly Archbishop and miracle working Climent, Bishop of Bulgaria in Ohrid [] This great priest... was a native of European Moesia, people of which are usually known to be Bulgarians [] Climent was raised to the bishop´s throne when Methodius made him the bishop of the whole of Illyria and of the Bulgarian people, who were predominant in the country []
• Enodius of Titsan (473 - 524): Bulgarians are old Moesian or Illyrian people (OLD!)
• Mavro Obrini gives information of Mark Avreliy Cassidorius, that Bulgarians have fought against the Romans about 390 AD.
Johan of Antihony wrote in 482 that Ostgots had attacked the Danube Byzantine provinces and emperor Zenon was forced to search support from the local population [] the so called Bulgarians (LOCAL!!!)
4. ulgaria above all! Have survived Rom, Byzantium and Ottoman. They will never return, but Bulgaria will still be the Conquerors and biggest fighters.
5. ulgarians allways win, as the history have shown!
6. omanians live on former Bulgar, Hun and Slavic land. There was no Romania before the Ottoman period, nor during.
- You stupid Mamaliga, Germans are nr. 1 in declining of their real population. Go there and fuck with them. You on the other hand are like Gypsies and Horse flies - have nothing else to do but producing a lot of babies. Later you go to the government and ask for money and social help. Piss of, Horse fly. I don´t like people who have a lot of kids because they fuck instead of going to school, etc. This is like Parasites - multiplying itself without destination.
You say that bulgarians are ,,the conquerors and the biggest figheters''. Let's remember what herodot sayd about the north carpathian ponthic thracians ,,the bravest from thracians'' . Another historian say that they are superior to almoust all people and almoust superior as greeks. And in the west there are a lot of historians ,scientific peoples who belive that rumanians are the oldest nation of europe , belive we have '' the moust fascinating history from world''.
And about fighters and conquerors . Let me say to you few romanians: -Constantin the great - Iancu from Hundora - Matei Corvine - Stefan the saint (of hungary) - in the latin document is the prof that he was romanian - Stefan the great - Michae the brave(defeated a 10x bigger turkish rmy and eliberated for a short period Builgaria and it was very close to conquer the constantinopole but the pope don't send the promised army so he must retreat and do peace with the turks
Also Michael the Brave received later a invitation to revive the roman empire throw Walachia , but first he should become catholic. The answer was : ,,No. You must recome to orthodox religion from were you started '' Another great rumanians:Mircea the old- Vlad Tepes(dracula) - this man defeated a 5 times more bigger army in a night surprise atack . - Burebista - Alexander the great ( I don't see the point . If he is thracian than it's romanian) - Pirus - Filip II of Macedonia - Spartacus
ha ha ha ha ha, sci fi is what they teach you VLACH. you are nomadic shepherds and the shiptars came from Caucasian mountains in 10th century. bugger off moron. go and onanate on your forums you retard
Remember Kiril and Methodiu,two vlachs that made your stupid ass christians and gave you a greek alphabet so you can boost in front of other russians with those kirilic letters?
The modern Turkish name İstanbul (Turkish pronunciation: [isˈtanbul]) is attested (in a range of variants) since the 10th century, at first in Armenian and Arabic and then in Turkish sources. It derives from the Greek phrase "εις την Πόλιν" or "στην Πόλη" [(i)stimboli(n)], both meaning "in the city" or "to the city".
Kolko ste glupavi i dvamata sporite za ne6to koeto ne poznavate sprete 4e ste sme6ni.....smotaniaci...sporiat za darjava koiato ne poznavat...haide pospete i po4inete, sled tova se zapoznaite i togava pi6ete...skapaniaci....
For centuries south east europe was the centre of civilization . For a better control Roman ocupants managed to split ocupied Dacia in regions . One of them was Dacia Aurelliani in today N bulgaria. The slavs came to this area in time of peace. In In the same way they migrate to west europe now. In next 500 years they will claim Great Britain as being Bulgarian Land.
- I do not have special opinions about G. Britain or England. But there is still one fact - that a part of Thracians from Bulgaria/Romania migrated to England. They reached Germany and there they were not wellcomed so they moved futher to England. In Celtic myth Fir Bolg (Bolgar) was their first leader over there.
6. I said according to the myth, Fir Bolg was Bulgarian! Myth is abreviation to mythology. Learn first how to express yourself in English in varied terms.
Buddy,i know english as well as my own native tongue and you can't bullshit me around about ancient or recent history..fir bolg have nothing to do with bulgarians,as a metter of fact,bulgarians were not even born as a nation yet
- Buddy, YOU DON´T KNOW BULGARIAN HISTORY SO KEEP QUITE PLEASE. I don´t believe a word you say, cause I know history better than you - judging from your shity talk. Bulgarians are oldest in Europe and Balkan. It is Romania that was just born yesterday, in the 19th century. Period.
You don´t even know that Bulgarians were born 15 000 BC and have history from that time. That make´s them one of the world´s oldest people on earth. Plus that Bulgarian first State created 15 000 BC, is world´s first State in primitive times. It is older that Sumerian and Egyptian. Hahaha.
Hahaha?..God you are soooooo ignorant,you could make even a hungarian blush! 15000 BC was a time when people still enjoyed a stake in the caverns,stupid! The Balkans were at the end of an Ice Age
- Listen to me stupid sorin1918, ancient Bulgarians came down at around 15 000 BC fom the Uralic Mountains from their caves after the glacier started to melt. They created world´s first State by uniting 7 Aryan tribes (Fin-Ugric and Altaic). In time they moved to Troy, Balkan, Apenines, Central Asia, Nortern India, Sumeria, etc. Doon´t teach me history, cause I know it better ad I am older. I do not listen to pupies like you.
You are lost to humanity ..I'm sure you never red a book in yout entire life.15000 years ago,in Europe were scatered tribes that spoke an indo-european language,fino-ugric and other altaic people(this are not arians,stupid),caucasian tribes and another cluster of tribes in the Iberian peninsula(probably bascs and others)
I tell you this sorin1918, BlaBlaBlaBlaBla You talk to much shit. Don´t repeat lies writen by others. Read true Bulgarian history, which is Greatest of all!!!
You are a young idealist ,i bet you have a shiny chicks with no hair,wet behind the ears..cause i refuse to believe an adult of 45 ..to be this stupid and ignorant about true history
- I am idealist and who are you then?! Anti-Bulgarian propagandist, charlatan and a lier. You lie about Bulgarian Great history and deny it. Í am telling the truth since it is written in ancient annals long before you were born. You are nobody to talk history. If yo want to lie or manipulate the true Bulgar history, you are born to late!!!
trakya tr pronounced in turkish tamga with U letter sound comes like Türkya or Türakya
exitre 3 months ago
All of you people are retards.. you all think the Thracians packed their shit one day and were like alright we are out of this area..? If you look at any other country that has a long history it has been in one place for a while same with their cultures.. This whole stupid theory of Bulgarians being mongols and slavs and invading the area is pathetic. Bulgarians evolved from Thracians
MrItstimeforfun 9 months ago
that was dacian land,dacian people,
valldevall 1 year ago
Whats the name of the first melody pls
spetrealex 1 year ago
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3wL7 1 year ago
The "slaves" is Skandinavians (Serbs/Slovens/Chez/Polaks/Slovaks/Rusians/Belorusians/Ukarins) who live thousands of year around Bulgaria and have learned to speak in broken Bulgarian.Bulgarian language is very old and very rich.Before thousand years 3 bulgarians Odin,Perun and Valhala was Gods of this peoples. On Ura-Ara/ARIA/Bulgaria "Balkans" have only Bulgarian DNA "skeletons" more from 200 000years(under the bottom of Black sea including). This must to know!
diyandobrev 1 year ago
@diyandobrev HAHAHAHAH I DONT I HAVE EV-13..
ktm066 1 year ago
bulgarians are slavs , can't be thracian <_<''
chickensupdude 1 year ago
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sergiomarchelli 1 year ago
@sergiomarchelli chyrillic alphabet is thracian? O_____________O"' WOW. OK yeah whatever you say bro. as long as I've seen and I've visited bulgaria a lot of times it looks like they have more of a russian culture mixed with turkish rather than Thracian. Ugh just because you find evidence of Thracian empire on your current territory doesn't mean you descended from them unless you have evidence proving that you've been there for more than 6,000
chickensupdude 1 year ago
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sergiomarchelli 1 year ago
@chickensupdude I AGREE 100%, THE CYRILLIC ALPHABET WAS CREATED FOR THE BULGARIANS BY THE GREEKS..
ktm066 1 year ago
@ktm066 Why the greeks will want to create alphabet for us (we are big enemies in this times)?
K0rTexXx 1 year ago
@K0rTexXx so your telling me that your cyrillic is made by bulgarians?they did it for the serbs in 1818,and they did it for you long time ago,
ktm066 1 year ago
@ktm066 for who is created?Rod the romanian...hahah come oooon...
K0rTexXx 1 year ago
@K0rTexXx SORRY FOR LATE REPLY..IM ALBANIAN NOT TURK,I DONT HAVE DARK SKIN OR DARK EYES I DONT SPEAK TURK I SPEAK A LANGUAGE THAT PRE DATES YOURS,I HAVE WORDS IN MY LANGUAGE THAT IS AROUND 6000BC,MOST OF MY LANGUAGE IS PRE INDO EUROPEAN,ALL OF YOU SERBS GREEKS BULGARIAN,JUST JELOUSE ALBANIANS ARE THE ONLYONES LEFT WHO SPEAK A ANCIENT LANGUAGE YOU MAY THINK OUR WHOLE LANGUAGE IS BORROWED BUT I CAN TELL YOU KNOW WE HAVE MORE NONE BORROWED WORDS THAN BORROWED,,
ktm066 11 months ago
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@ktm066 for who is created?Rod the romanian...hahah come oooon...
K0rTexXx 1 year ago
@chickensupdude u mom is slav....bulgarians are thracians!Actually last DNA researches show that 50% from bulgarian DNA is thracian!For example romanians have more small thracian DNA and more slavic!But however, I believe that bulgarians and romanians are thracian brothers!
K0rTexXx 1 year ago
@K0rTexXx ..bulgarians are thracians,ARE YOU KIDDING ME.HAHAHHAHA
ktm066 1 year ago
@ktm066 No....just u are dumbass....
K0rTexXx 1 year ago
Egiptians weren't arabs neither
rockhour1976 1 year ago
"Thracian" is offensive word for Bulgaria, Bulgarian peoples and History.
diyandobrev 2 years ago
@diyandobrev why?
fcfcgh 1 year ago
This Bulgarian grave is from 8 000 years , in all Balkan and antolia have thousands (most old whu discover by to day is 12 000years) Bulgaria is the Center of Culture - bath ti day escape from Egipt before 3800-4000 Juws whu colonized south Bulgaria "Elada", and managed U.S. to day write false History
diyandobrev 2 years ago 10
@diyandobrev most so called experts write false history
thoostorm4 8 months ago
@diyandobrev
1.Thracians isn't Bulgarian
2.Bulgarian trib is emigrate in south of Danube Thracians land
3.Propaganda is for alien of galaxy
4.Bulgarian like Hungarian is try to eat old legacy,but them adn is out of actually land
5.We respect other,but cant change history with liars see nr1
Long Live Bulgarian and 25% of Thracians brothers stay in your Land and respect all.
wotansteel 5 months ago
BOSNIANS=ILLYRIANS
bosna501 2 years ago
there is thraians everywhere, but they live first is here this is god's land - so stop the stupid talking - if someone is thraian he must prove it , this is all , believe in tangra |Y| why bulgarians not post comments only you stupid earth people are burning your small brains - what is this what you see in the video??? things wich you will never find how they work !!!!
maloumie23 2 years ago 2
@maloumie23 oK I AM ALBANIAN AND I HAVE HUNDREDS OF THRACIAN WORDS IN MY LANGUAGE THAT NO BULGARIANS HAVE,BUT SINCE MY DACIAN ROMANIAN BROTHERS WHO HAVE THESE SAME WORDS JUST PROVES THAT IF A NATION WHO IS CLAIMING TO BE THRACIAN THEN THEY ALSO WOULD SHARE THESE THRACIAN WORDS I HAVE WITH ROMANIANS,,BULGARIANS ARE TURKISH SLAVNIC,,THAT IS ALL..
ktm066 1 year ago
@ktm066 JUST LIKE EVERY INTIRE SLAVNIC PEOPLE THEY BELIVE THEY HAVE A BIG PART OF THE BALKANS ANCIENT PEOPLE BUT NONE OF USE DONT,sLAVS SAY ALBANIANS ARE GYPYSYS BUT THE FACT THAT IN MY LANGUAGE I HAVE THRACIAN,ILLYRIAN,PELASGAIN,ESTRUCAN AND DARDANIAN IN MY LANGUAGE PROVES I AM FROM HERE BUT SINCE ALL THESE LANGUAGES INFLUENCED EACHOTHER,IT IS HARD FOR US TO KNOW WHO WE ARE MOST LIKEY DARDANIAN,
ktm066 1 year ago
@ktm066 yeah yeah...u have and chinese words maybe too...hahaha!The kanguage don't prove anything!
K0rTexXx 1 year ago
@ktm066 U mom is turk, sucker!Bulgarians don't have ANY commont with the turks!WE HATE THEM!
K0rTexXx 1 year ago
@K0rTexXx thats funny because im christian albanian,,and i am not dark like turks,,everyone knows that bulgarians are mix turkish slavnic,,
ktm066 1 year ago
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@K0rTexXx thats funny because im christian albanian,,and i am not dark like turks,,everyone knows that bulgarians are mix turkish slavnic
ktm066 1 year ago
@ktm066 just time is cheating us , origin of human race is Bulgarians wich haved 12 countries at the same time with name Bulgaria from thousands years before Christ and hundreds years after located from Asia to the last Bulgaria where are we now, we are mix from this races bulgar-tracian , whole world has bulgarian words, half asia talking our languige .All races from China to west are mixture of bulgarians and tribes trough their way.Bulgarian history is very complex..not TURKISH.. peace bro
maloumie23 11 months ago
@maloumie23 Im not fucking turkish..please that is insult..Im albanian...
ktm066 10 months ago
@maloumie23 read this book please The Cambridge Ancient History.you will find much.The Fourth Century B.C..Chapter 9d: Illyrians and North-west Greeks.
ktm066 10 months ago
@maloumie23 There's no nedd of proof for every one. The One who is given- will have it! By the way, these beautiful songs are sung only by nowadays Bulgarians and some of their neghbours - ex-BUlgarians... NObody else! Noe Eastern "Volga Bulgarian", no "Greek" - except ex-bulgarians. As per "things wich you will never find how they work !!!!
" - PLEASE, DO NOT WORRY ABOUT OUR KNOWLEDGE.
balkhara 9 months ago
@balkhara i don't care so much , thats the reality and maybe people never will understand how to use this tools
maloumie23 9 months ago
@maloumie23 OK, may be not every one is same and not every one sees the things same way. "The people" is very relative term...
Good night it is Monday comming! :)!
balkhara 9 months ago
@balkhara Yes we are same but reality very depends on personality , we are one anyway and must unite, have nice monday ! :)
maloumie23 9 months ago
I would adding something about Laonicus Chalkondyles. I don't remember the pages and chapters, but he pointed out that:
'I can say that Macedonians are nearer to Albanians than to any other people in the world'
Regard
Luboteni
luboteni 2 years ago
luboteni, I just wanted to se your reaction on Caucasian Albania and to see if you know something more about the subject. I don´t have special intentions. Bulgars were called with many names, and Alban is one of them, since Northern Caucasus was one of former Bulgar territories where they lived. This is the 1: possible connection between Bulgars and Albans. Illyricum was only a name of geographical region not ethnic name.
spa05akw 2 years ago
Continuing...
Second conection is that Albania was a part of the Bulgarian Empire. What is interesting here, is that when Proto-Bulgars (known as Scythians) came back to their distant brothers, the Thracians, they started to unite all Thraco-Illyrians and expanded the new State Bulgaria from the Black sea to the Adriatic and the Egeian. It was easy for them, because they united related people against the Roman hegemony. Thracians were known since times imemorial, that they could not unite.
spa05akw 2 years ago
Continuing...
Same destiny finaly reached the Bulgarians the lack of unity was the reason why Bulgarians first fell for a while to the Byzantines (during 1:st Bulgarian Empire) and later to te Ottomans. If these Empires did not get the luck and the opportunity, Bulgaria would today be stretched from the Black sea to Adriatic and Egeian. Hence, that the former shape of the Bulgarian Balkan Empire, when it was as largest, corresponded to the shape of territories where exactly Thracians lived.
spa05akw 2 years ago
Continuing...
By the way, Illyricum was not only in todays Albania it was a bit biger. And Illyricum as a whole was populated predominantly by Bulgars. Bulgarians, Pelasgians, Mycenians, Macedonians, Moesians were same people of same stock, and called Thraco-Illyrians. The word Albania did not yet exist in ancient times, so they were called federatively Illyrians.
spa05akw 2 years ago
Continuing... nr. 2
- Conserning Western names, usually they copied it from Balkan, Europe and Asia especially Americans. For example there is also Montana in North-Western Bulgaria. Europeid is replaced with Caucasoid. Alexandria, Pitsburg, New Orleans, Phoenix, Annapolis, Manchester, etc, are copies. Nothing is coincidental. It is about adoption.
spa05akw 2 years ago
@luboteni you i agree 100%,,
ktm066 10 months ago
@ktm066 This spa05akw is a complete idiot,,Scythians were a turkish tribes,samatia,In cuacasus region.Scythians came to thrace they were not from thracians,,Like evey tribe everyone migrates well not everyone,,Scythia Minor name was lost by the migrating bulgarians and slavs,,
ktm066 10 months ago
By the way, there are many clearly examples of using of this name like in Scotland (which in Middle Age was called Alba (or Albion); an another city of Roman Era near today's London was called Albany; the mountains near Roma are called ALBA; a few villages in southern France are called also Albany. Finally, even the capital of New York federal state is called Albany? Should we assuming that Albanians came from:
-Scotland:)
-London:)
-Southern France:)
-Roma
- or New York state:)
luboteni 2 years ago
- I was thinking for a while, and I would like to add sometning. I know that officially there was no concrete migration of Albans to Balkan. But in fact, there was migration. Proto-Bulgars migrated from Caucasus and are still here since the 4th century. As far as I know, the word Albania is adopted later.
spa05akw 2 years ago
The pseudotheory of Caucasian Origin of Albanians is invented by Greek and Serbian Propaganda. They trying to show us (Albanians) as comers from Caucasus, but yet now they does not showed any relevent proof, I mean any linguistic/anthropologic, cultural or ethnographic proof. The confidenciality of having common names is not sufficient to believe that Albanians came from there. Furthermore, there are a lot of examples showing the widely using of 'Albania' name.
(Continued)
luboteni 2 years ago
- CUMANS were another Bulgar tribe. Alans, who also were Bulgar dynasty, spoke Cuman language.
spa05akw 2 years ago
You speaked about Galerius . Probably you would also revendicate him , but he changed the name of the roman empire in the dacian empire !! He say that he hate the name of roman , because the moust population in the empire is thracian and daccian. He give liberty to christianity at the end of his reign
GrigoriRasputin7 2 years ago
- That is true. Galerius was un-Roman and Balkan was mostly Thracian, but Daccia was just a district - not Empire. If it was so, Constantine would make Daccia as second Romans empire and not Byzantion (ancient Thracian city at the Bosporus).
- You say thracian AND daccian. So I asume you are not sure if Daccians were Thracians.
spa05akw 2 years ago
• Greek historian Herodotus (5th century BC) divided the Scythians in two parts, Scythians and Cimmerians who lived around Meotis at the Cimmerian channel. Comment: That is in Europe!
Procopius informs further, that those who were called Cimmerians are called now Huns. These who were called Scythians in old times, are now called Goths (Not German newcomers!) or Getes.
spa05akw 2 years ago
It doesn't matter if scytians had similar coustums like thracians , because they probablye borow the thracians clothes like other stuffs. Thracians speakead rumanian(daccian) , at this conclusion come a lot of scientific people. Romanian is a latin languace , unlike hungarian hunic , bulgarian. This is a proof that it's almoust imposible that thracians to be huns or bilgarians.
GrigoriRasputin7 2 years ago
Mate, it seems that you know well about Thracians! I would like to know your opinion: Do you think that Illyrians and Thracians were kindred with one another, although they had their own entities?
ALBPelasgian 2 years ago
The thing that thracians and iliryan are actualy the same thing it's spokened by antique historians, modern historians . And there are many proofs .
GrigoriRasputin7 2 years ago
- Yes, Thracians and Illyrians were same people, and they were ANCIENT BULGARIANS! Macedonia and Illyria was populated by Bulgarians since times immemorial. Macedonians were also same, since they were Thraco-Illyrians. Only Greeks were later invadors and much younger who took over Thracian history and made it own. PLAGIARISM!
spa05akw 2 years ago
Sorry buddy, but to say that Illyrians were ancient Bulgarians seems to be very hyberbolical since no historical record mention any ties between Illyrians and Bulgarians. I don't know much things about history of Bulgarians, since I've not reading for such issues, but Bulgarians may have some Thracian blood, but majority of them is with several origin like scythian or other central asiatic people (for example people near Pamiri). IN what you are based for your opinion?
luboteni 2 years ago
- luboteni, I do not opine anymore but conclude. Ok, my opinion is based on many sources - especially ancient Roman and Byzantine, and of cource ancient Bulgarian that is not so in contrast to these mentioned. I have posted ancient quotations, but you don´t read them and I am not fond of repeating myself. My quotations are clear, and Thracians were indeed ancient European Bulgarians. these never migrated to Asia. Though tere were Thracians who migrated to Asia and a part of them came back.
spa05akw 2 years ago
- luboteni, and Thracians were Scythians! The lands of Thracians were called big Scythia (N. Ponticus to Altai) and little Scythia (in today´s modern Bulgaria). This is only a small example of many other.
spa05akw 2 years ago
malka scythia = dobrudja, to help with the discussion, i am from Dobrudja ;P
Jigov 2 years ago
Yes. I know it is Little Scythia. The Pontic area, North to the Black sea" was the Big Scythia. Wherefrom Dobrudja are you? My mother is from The Valley of the Thracian kings, also called the "Valley of roses". More precisely from Kazanlak.
spa05akw 2 years ago
- luboteni, ancient European local Bulgarians were Thraco-Illyrians. And Macedonia was also located in Illyria. But go back and read all my comments in behind. Btw, did you know that real Albania is located in Northern Caucasus?
spa05akw 2 years ago
spa05akw, I know for a region called Albania in Northern Caucasus? But which is your intention by mention of this fact? Noone doubted that a region with the name of Albania, was also in Northern Cacuasus (somwhere between today's Azerbejan and Dagestan). But, if your goal is to say that Albanians are orginated for there, is entirely foolish since there is no historical record to witness about any arrival of Albanians in Balkan Peninsula.
luboteni 2 years ago
- luboteni, I can send you one more quotation that I did not send.
• Laonicus Chalkondyles: the Triballians were THE MOST ANCIENT AND GREATEST OF ALL NATIONS. He said further: They are now being called Bulgarians (Op. cit, col. 26). Strabo confirms that Triballians were Thracians. And Dio Cassius considered Triballians and the Dardanians as Mysians (Bulgarians). Because all Latin sources equate Moesians with Bulgarians.
spa05akw 2 years ago
- I know that few describe Huns as little and ugly. A SUBJECTIVE description made by the ENEMIES a fucking mythology. In fact Huns were not that. HUN is a Federative name for Türc-Altaic tribes (Alans, Scytho-Sarmatians, Proto-Bulgars, etc) and were of all sizes just like today in all countries. Alans, for example were dark, but Sarmatians were blond. Ancient Türks were white with blue eyes, and so on. Don´t be to exhilarated by biology proves NOTHING. I am not interested in Legends.
spa05akw 2 years ago
Continuation...
Little Huns would never conquer the world from the Pacific to the Adriatic sea. Secondly, the main stricking power of the Huns were Bulgars and here what said the Arab chronist when he cried: 10 of our men cannot overcome 1 Bulgarian. Furthermore, in the Middle Ages, Huno-Bulgars were 1.75 cm tal (average) while the rest of the ppl were 1.60 cm. Alans were also tal and blond, and a Bulgar dynasty.
spa05akw 2 years ago
- HUNS were Confederation of different tribes and Clans/Dynasties. Btw, most REAL books do not describe biological the Huns at all, despite they lived in Illyricum and Thrace for centuries. Huns lived on Balkan, Romania, Hungary, Ukraine, Southern Germany before Khan Asparukh came (the founder of Modern Bulgaria).
Huns cannot have been ugly, or whatever. Bulgarians are beautiful especially the women with the Central Asian feature.
spa05akw 2 years ago
- Since HUNS were direct descendants of Sumerians (One of the world´s most ancient civilization), they cannot have been little and ugly with small eyes.
- Scythians first and later HUNS populated Scandinavium when this region had a very little amount of people in BC and are not described as little and ugly with small eyes.
Thracians = Scythians = Cimmerians /Huns = Proto-Bulgars
All same people!
spa05akw 2 years ago
• The name HUN is already mentioned in the 1-2dn century in Daccia (Romania) and the region around Danube.
• Procopios from Cesarea (500-565) wrote: In the ancient times the HUNS, kutriguri and utiguri, were known as Cimmerians, and they lived in the lands near to Babylonia (Celts were also known as Cimerians)
spa05akw 2 years ago
You've nothing to do with any Thracians. You are VLACHS, which derrive from the Hellenic word Vlasat. The Greeks call you Kutsou Vlachs which mean lame shepherds. The Bulgarians, Croats and Serbs call you CINCARI which in Iranian mean primitive shepherd, the Turkish call you CHOBANS which in their language mean lame shepherds. Your state was called Vlachia up untill 1859 when for political purposes you were latinized and lost your identity.
KeramisijskiSin 2 years ago
- No, Thracians spoke different languages. Moesian (ancient Bulgarian) is one of them. Thracians also spoke Türkic dialect. According to linguistics, Homeros and Illiad was not written in Greek but a Türkic dialect. Ancient Türkic and ancient Iranian are world´s oldest languages.
spa05akw 2 years ago
- Do you have wax in your ears? I said that a part of Thracians became Huns (Scythians) and that there were European and Asian Thracians. Huns are direct descendants of Sumerians/Mesopotamia. The word Hun appeared for the 1:st time in the 4th c. from Caucasus. So they had other names before - they did not drop directly from heaven like the Koran.
spa05akw 2 years ago
@GrigoriRasputin7 I laughed out loud pretty hard at this! Seriously, is that some sort of a humor or you actually believe that ? :)
Darkson1c8511 1 year ago
Dracula was Cuman who's state was influenced by Bulgaria. His capital was called Turgovishte; mean marketplace in Bulgaria. Rumeni don't know their history.
KeramisijskiSin 2 years ago
The Rumeni in search of an identity HA HA HA HA. Nobody wants to be related to them! Tell the Latins they are related to the Rumeni and they are all up in arms. Nobody likes you very much Rumeni, why don't you go to your forums?
KeramisijskiSin 2 years ago
For bulgarians: I see you hate romanians , but speak about thracians(romanians are thracians) . You say that you too come from thracians. But rumanians (unlike bulgarians) are spread all over europe :Istroromanians , aromanians etc and a lot of vilages found even in cehia , eastern ukraine all speaking rumanian languace . Bulgarians must learn more history , original documents , not stupid propaganda made by some fucking idiots.
GrigoriRasputin7 2 years ago
1. I do not hate Romanians. But I hate when they attack Great Bulgarian history and deny it. They call Bulgars names, so I started to use same attitudes.
spa05akw 2 years ago
Nu-ți mai bate capul,dobitocului ăsta(spa-chiar și numele îi pus pe "relaxare") i-am corectat toate prostiile și tot pe a lui o ține!Am ajuns să-l înjur doar ca să-mi mai vărs năduful dar tontul nici asta nu știe s-o facă!Dobitocul e bulgar de acum 15000 de ani:)))) asta crede,lasă-l așa!Ce-ți toarnă ție acum mi-a scris și mie la fel..
sorin1918 2 years ago
1. Vlahia was Ottoman, but since they were poor shephards and did not make a freat to the Ottomans they got authonomy to some degree.
2. Istnbul is Bulgarian. Istan BUL = The high tower of the Bulgars. Constantinopel was populated by many Bulgarians. Constantinopel renamed to Istan-BUL, not to Istan-VALAH or Istan-Graeco! Hahah
3. Many Turks themselves were killed by Ottomans. This Moron sorin, does not know what she is talking about.
spa05akw 2 years ago
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- You did NOTHING, Mongrels. Bulgarians saved themselves without you. And you Romanians in quotation were saved also from the Ottomans, since you were their subjects.
spa05akw 2 years ago
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1. Vlahia was Ottoman, but since they were poor shephards and did not make a freat to the Ottomans they got authonomy to some degree.
2. Istanbul is Bulgarian. Istan BUL = The high tower of the Bulgars. Constantinopel was populated by many Bulgarians. Constantinopel renamed to Istan-BUL, not to Istan-VALAH or Istan-Graeco! Hahah
3. Many Turks themselves were killed by Ottomans. This Moron sorin, does not know what she is talking about.
spa05akw 2 years ago
4. Bulgaria above all! Have survived Rom, Byzantium and Ottoman. They will never return, but Bulgaria will still be the Conquerors and biggest fighters.
5. Bulgarians allways win, as the history have shown!
spa05akw 2 years ago
1.V lahia was Ottoman, but since they were poor shephards and did not make a freat to the Ottomans tey got authonomy to some degree.
2. Istanbul is Bulgarian. Istan BUL = The high tower of the Bulgars. Constantinopel was populated by many Bulgarians. Constantinopel renamed to Istan-BUL, not to Istan-VALAH or Istan-Graeco! Hahah
3. Many Turks themselves were killed by Ottomans. This Moron sorin, does not know what she is talking about.
spa05akw 2 years ago
And I guess you should be taken as a piller of truth? Istan-Bul?:)))))))))))))) vlach made your stupid ass country,sucker.Check some books,idiot !
sorin1918 2 years ago
- You did NOTHING, Mongrels. Bulgarians saved themselves without you. And you Romanians in quotation were saved also from the Ottomans, since you were their subjects.
spa05akw 2 years ago
What can you do,asswhipe? Blow me and maybe just maybe,I'll leave your stupid,racist ass alone
sorin1918 2 years ago
Fucking toe,you should kiss our statues for saving your retched ass from turks..you were slaves in The Otoman Empire, a carpet for the shoes of every pasha in the Balkans..and look at you now! Mighty tracians and ancient bulgars,conquerers of Troy..you make me sick,thats how big of a fool you are
sorin1918 2 years ago
- sorin1918, look who is talking, you are racist yourself since you are here attacking Great Bulgarian history. I came here only to DEFEND aginst your attacks. You don´t know history better than Bulgarians, so you have nothing to teach. You were not invited to this site. Nobody wants your PRIVATE ignorant opinions without historical sources.
spa05akw 2 years ago
- One more information to you, ignorant. Bulgars were forefathers to all Türkic people. Haha, eat it now, stupid.
And yes, all ancient civilizations were started by mighty Bulgarians (Thracians and Scythians). Haha... You are NOTHING.
spa05akw 2 years ago
4. Bulgaria above all! Have survived Rom, Byzantium and Ottoman. They will never return, but Bulgaria will still be the Conquerors and biggest fighters.
5. Bulgarians allways win, as the history have shown!
6. romanians live on former Bulgar, Hun and Slavic land. There was no Romania before the Ottoman period, nor during.
spa05akw 2 years ago
Gypsie are also survivers of all this empires,and the top most growing population in Bulgaria.I wonder what they will call themselfs in the future?Descendents of ancient bulgars?:)))) Freedom fighters against vlach opressors:)))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))stupidity runs wild in Bulgaria this days,must be something in the air!
sorin1918 2 years ago
1. Vlahia was Ottoman, but since they were poor shephards and did not make a freat to the Ottomans they got authonomy to some degree.
2. Istanbul is Bulgarian. Istan BUL = The high tower of the Bulgars. Constantinopel was populated by many Bulgarians. Constantinopel renamed to Istan-BUL, not to Istan-VALAH or Istan-Graeco! Hahah
3. Many Turks themselves were killed by Ottomans. This Moron sorin, does not know what she is talking about.
spa05akw 2 years ago
The Balkans were called Roman Empire of Constantinople before you shitheads came here.This vlachs you spit soo hard still speak a latin language,have a distinct culture and are the real natives of this Balkan peninsula..and you are an incompetent fool with this istan freak notion,don't you have no shame?
sorin1918 2 years ago
HA HA HA the real natives HA HA HA HA HA,
you made me laugh!!!! Are you a circus worker, VLACH? HA HA HA HA CLOWN! The nomad shepherds were nowhere to be seen until Byzantines and Bulgarian historiographers mentioned their primitive stock moving around the highlands in search for new pastures. You don't even know where you came from mamaligar. VLACH clown
KeramisijskiSin 2 years ago
Did you ever heard about romans that made The Eastern Roman Empire,you piss of shit? Romans made the Balkans what is today when your ancestors were milking horses and fucking goats around Volga river
sorin1918 2 years ago
Why use my comments you thick inbred sub human choban? 2 bob brainless cunt! The Balkans are Bulgaro-Hellenic; the two cultures present on the peninsula. Apes like you from artificial states should not bother with our history. Nobody takes you seriosly VLACH baboon. now fuck off you inbred stinking transhumant parasite
KeramisijskiSin 2 years ago
Go fuck yourself,worthless dog! You don't know even your own history..and thats pathetic as hell
sorin1918 2 years ago
you are biological misapprehension VLACH clown, conceived between the copulation of a goat and choban. Your lunacy is beyond belief. 2 bob - no history, no culture, no brains
KeramisijskiSin 2 years ago
No wonder gypsie and turks in Bulgaria are growing in number with such sterile specimens like you and that other idiot spa..something
sorin1918 2 years ago
we'll send back the gypsies to their motherland - Rumunia; from where the Soviets brought them after 1950.
Rumunia the craddle of the gypsy culture
KeramisijskiSin 2 years ago
4. Bulgaria above all! Have survived Rom, Byzantium and Ottoman. They will never return, but Bulgaria will still be the Conquerors and biggest fighters.
5. Bullgarians allways win, as the history have shown!
6. romanians live on former Bulgar, Hun and Slavic land. There was no Romania before the Ottoman period, nor during.
spa05akw 2 years ago
4. ulgaria above all! Have survived Rom, Byzantium and Ottoman. They will never return, but Bulgaria will still be the Conquerors and biggest fighters.
5. ulgarians allways win, as the history have shown!
6. rmanians live on former Bulgar, Hun ad Slavic land. There was no Romania before the Ottoman period, nor during.
spa05akw 2 years ago
..ulgarians can suck my dick și în special proștii de categoria ta care mănâncă numai căcat ca să se simtă bine cu neamul lor
sorin1918 2 years ago
- Da ti eba mazkata Putka.
spa05akw 2 years ago
General Vitalianus - Flavius Aetius -Belizarie (this one fight for justinian I)- Traian(casius dio-roman historian - said ,,and let's not forget that traian is a veritable thracian'') - and many others . Some historians belive that it's very possible that more than half of all the roman emperors were thraco-dacians because a lot of them are born in (today timok) eastern hungary etc. For example : aurelian , the one who retreated the roman army from dacia was a dacian .
GrigoriRasputin7 2 years ago
And now tell five big bulgarian leaders or generals or conquerors
GrigoriRasputin7 2 years ago
2. Nit Romanians, but Bulgarians are spread all over Europe. Furthermore, Bulgars were as many as the sand in the sea (Khazarian source, Josif). Pannonia, Daccia, the 2 Moesias, Macedonia, Thessalia, Epirus, Illiricum, Volga-Kama region, Ukraine (Old Great Bulgaria), Central Asia, Near East, Anatolia, Moldava, Besarabia, and others were populated by old Bulgarians.
spa05akw 2 years ago
3. Romanians must learn true history since Bulgaian history is greatest and definitelly greater than Romanian. You cannot deny or steal Bulgarian history calling it Romanian. Period. Not discutible!
spa05akw 2 years ago
4. Átilla was one of Bulgarian greatest. Tsar Simeon was another who had almost whole Balkan, Romania, Transylvania and a part of Hungary. Khan Asparukh was who defeated the Romans and Byzantium. You are nothing - you just obeyed te Bulgar khans or were killed. Tervel was another who defeated and slaughtered 100 000 Arab army. Khan Krum terrible was another Bulgar from whom you and Byzantium trembled. tc, etc, etc.
spa05akw 2 years ago
... Arab army... and saved Europe including your romanian ASES! Bulgarians also helped to save Europe from the Ottoman Islamic conquest. You are just ungrateful COCKROACHES who deny and minimize great Bulgar history.
spa05akw 2 years ago
5. Vlad Tepes was just barbarian blood sucker and is lucky that he did not live during Khan Asparukh´s time. He would be crushed in NO TIME, just like he crushed Great Rum /Byzantium.
6. I dn´t understand why you want to be Romans. Romans were fucking brutal BARBARIANS, SUCKERS AND EXPLOITERS whose capital Rom was created by ancient Bulgarians (Etruscans). But stil, you have nothing to do woth Romans.
spa05akw 2 years ago
7. Thracians were ancient Bulgarians, not Romanians. Don´t steal history that does not belong to you. Daccia was newly populated by Slavs and Gypsies. You are Vlahs that s shephards. Not worriors. Greatest warriors were Bulgars who fucked Romans together with the Bulgar forefathers Átillas Bulgars.
spa05akw 2 years ago
Attila the hun is bulgarian? So you are thracians and huns? Or huns are thracians? Man , it doesn't make any sense . All world knows that above all nations , romanians are sure thracians. And about romans , they captured only 1/4 of our countrye and at least I don't want to be roman. I know that they destroy our captal(sarmisegetuza) - the head of the spiritual thracian land. They take our gold (which was more than the gold of the egipt after many historians)
GrigoriRasputin7 2 years ago
- I se you are confused. It is nly because you are very ignorant of history - especially ancient Bulgarian. Pity you. These Asian Thracians became Huns, yes. You know nothing about Bulgarian or Thracian history. You shpuld be quite before you learn some ABC of Bulgarian-Thracian history.
spa05akw 2 years ago
• Dimitar Homatian (XII-XIII AD): This Bulgarians are European Moeses [] successors [] Pannonia, Dalmatsia, Thrace and Illyric [] Macedonia and Tessalia (It is Bulgarians not Romanians, Greeks or Slavs!)
• According to Magnus Felix Ennodius (473-521) Bulgarians are Old Thraco-Ilyrians (Not Romanians, Greeks or Slavs!)
spa05akw 2 years ago
How do you dare to say that I steal bulgarians history? In the worst case (for romanians) you would be two thracians like rumanians. Do you want to begin writing you about some greek antique historie that show that we are thracians? And about istanbul , remember , that his original name was constantinople (after a daccian name , constantin).
GrigoriRasputin7 2 years ago
• On the map, kept in British museum, created in 4th century by St. Jerome (331-420) it is written the name of Bulgarian lands in ancient times Misia hec et Vulgaria (Misia, namely Bulgaria / Misia, here is Bulgaria). This map was created on basis of older maps by Eusebius of Caesarea (270-338) called Father of the Church history (There existed No Romania on the map!)
spa05akw 2 years ago
• Joan Malala (Byzantine source) wrote in the VI century about the Troyan war: And Achilles departed with the Artidies, [] army of 3000 people, who were called Mirmidons at this time, and now are called Bulgarians (No Romanians are mentioned in BC!).
spa05akw 2 years ago
- The history is my guide and you cannot deny ancient Roman, Byzantine, Assyrian, Syrian, Hebrew, Armenian, Arab, Volga Bulgarian, etc, sources. If you deny people who were born before you and know much more than you, than you would be an ECHOING CYMBAL, and pathetic. You can not invent your own Romanian history. Your history is Bulgarian mostly. Period.
spa05akw 2 years ago
- Speaking of the wich, I am just writing about the founder of Constantinople, one of the chapters in my future book. Constantine was indeed Thracian but he was born and raised in Nish (a Thracian Dardanian city that is ancient Bulgarian). He completed his education in Nicomedia at the court of Galerius, a Thracian emperor born in Serdica (Sofia, Bulgaria). Daccia was a district and not the heart of Thrace that is why he moved Rom to Thracian city Byzantion.
spa05akw 2 years ago
12. The Bosporus was anient Bulgarian, so in Byzantion lived many ancient Bulgarian Thracians. It was renamed to Istan-BUL because there lived ancient Bulgarians.
spa05akw 2 years ago
- Oh, man, I must disappoint you. No single country believng Romanians are Thracians - only Romanians themselves. And even if they were Thracians, Daccians are not yet considered 100% as Thracians. Furthermore, Americans and other distant nations does not even know where Romania, Bulgaria or Sweden is located geographically. Some cannot differ btw Bul and Rom. They don´t know that Bulgaria is a neighbour also with another countries. And some ppl think the capital of Bulgaria is Buckarest.
spa05akw 2 years ago
8. Continuing about your confusion... There were European Thracians and Asian Thracians. A part of Thracians migrated from Balkans 2-3000 BC and reached Turkestan, and further. This Asiatic Thracians came back in the name of Scythian Proto-Bulgarians. European Bulgarians (Thracian Moesians) united easilly with their Asian brothers against the Roman opressor and Byzantium. Bulgars did not unite with any imaginary Slavs, but with distant brothers - European Thracians with Asian.
spa05akw 2 years ago
10. Huns were white Scythians. Scythians were very related to Thracians and had similar customs, etc. Thracians were also Scythians (Scyth = bow shooter).
11. Thracians originate from Bulgar ancient state IDEL (Ural-Itil), from the Uralic region 15 000 BC. Moved to Carpathian basin, Cenral Europe, Balkans, Anatolia, Apennines, Near East and other parts of the world. As a memory there remained a village in Volga Bulgaria (Now Chuvashja) called Thrace.
spa05akw 2 years ago
Your afirmation are almoust incredible. Huns were thracians . Some roman historians described the huns like small creatures , very very ugly(sorry - you found that even in the book ,, The enemies of Rome'') , small eyes etc. The way the trachians are described by greeks and romans , is almoust the oposite describe of huns. Thracians are tall , strong people. Blond , blue-eyed (probabli a big part of them) , very beautiful , and with silky hair unlike huns .
GrigoriRasputin7 2 years ago
- Comment: Getes were one of the Thracian tribes in North-Eastern Bulgaria and Daccia.
• According to Hebrew chronician Josephus (37 BC 100 AD), the Greeks called Galatians Cimmerians, and the Magogs Scythians.
spa05akw 2 years ago
Magog , Tiras ... . Did you hear about this people? Magog the father of scytians , and Tiras the father of thracians . You found that in the bible at noe. Noe has 3 sons. 1 of them , IAFET , has a lot of sons from which comes a lot of nations. 2 of the iafet's sons are the thracians and the scytians. So the Bible say that scytians and thracians are two diferent nations
GrigoriRasputin7 2 years ago
- Scythians and Thracians were not different people, becase they belonged to same family. We can talk about different tribes and clans. One example: Alans, Khazars, Scythians, Sarmats, Cumans etc, were same people, but different Clans. These were initially personal names: Alan, Khazar, Scyth, Sarmat, Cuman. The followers (hords) of these leaders got the common name of their personal names.
spa05akw 2 years ago
Continuing...
We are not talking about different people. In old times, the sons of a father/leader received/inherited a certain amount of people who would follow the new leader. The oldest son used to get the biggest horde of people, the youngest got smallest part of his people, etc.
spa05akw 2 years ago
Continuing...
These Leaders and their inherited SHARE went their own way and did whatever they had to do. That is, the same people could disperse and make own States, etc, on their own. They also fought each other in wars. Family wars!
spa05akw 2 years ago
About the getes from north-eastern bulgaria . Now in north eastern bulgaria are a lot of romanian people. In ww2 , when ou recaptured the cadrilaterul from romanians , there was 40%rumanians and only 30 % bulgarians .
GrigoriRasputin7 2 years ago
- Lol, todays census is not any proof of ancient history. First of all, before the Ottoman invasion most of Romania - especially the coast at the Black sea belonged to Bulgaria. A small part of Dobrudza was just returned back in WW2,after Romanians have moved there. Turks also moved to Bulgaria. The southern Bulgaria is full of Turks. It means not that Bulgaria was initially Turkey. Secondly, people moved forth and back during Ottomans and all people are not living on their original land.
spa05akw 2 years ago
In europe it have been discovered many times people in mountains , caves etc who speaked and speak a similar languace to romanians. They was actualy thracians but the people call them vlachs.
GrigoriRasputin7 2 years ago
• In A short life of Climent by Dimiter Homatian (Archbishop of Ohrid from 1216 to about 1234): On this same day, June 27, in memory of our saintly Archbishop and miracle working Climent, Bishop of Bulgaria in Ohrid [] This great priest... was a native of European Moesia, people of which are usually known to be Bulgarians [] Climent was raised to the bishop´s throne when Methodius made him the bishop of the whole of Illyria and of the Bulgarian people, who were predominant in the country []
spa05akw 2 years ago
• Enodius of Titsan (473 - 524): Bulgarians are old Moesian or Illyrian people (OLD!)
• Mavro Obrini gives information of Mark Avreliy Cassidorius, that Bulgarians have fought against the Romans about 390 AD.
Johan of Antihony wrote in 482 that Ostgots had attacked the Danube Byzantine provinces and emperor Zenon was forced to search support from the local population [] the so called Bulgarians (LOCAL!!!)
spa05akw 2 years ago
:))))))
sorin1918 2 years ago
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4. ulgaria above all! Have survived Rom, Byzantium and Ottoman. They will never return, but Bulgaria will still be the Conquerors and biggest fighters.
5. ulgarians allways win, as the history have shown!
6. omanians live on former Bulgar, Hun and Slavic land. There was no Romania before the Ottoman period, nor during.
spa05akw 2 years ago
- You stupid Mamaliga, Germans are nr. 1 in declining of their real population. Go there and fuck with them. You on the other hand are like Gypsies and Horse flies - have nothing else to do but producing a lot of babies. Later you go to the government and ask for money and social help. Piss of, Horse fly. I don´t like people who have a lot of kids because they fuck instead of going to school, etc. This is like Parasites - multiplying itself without destination.
spa05akw 2 years ago
You say that bulgarians are ,,the conquerors and the biggest figheters''. Let's remember what herodot sayd about the north carpathian ponthic thracians ,,the bravest from thracians'' . Another historian say that they are superior to almoust all people and almoust superior as greeks. And in the west there are a lot of historians ,scientific peoples who belive that rumanians are the oldest nation of europe , belive we have '' the moust fascinating history from world''.
GrigoriRasputin7 2 years ago
And about fighters and conquerors . Let me say to you few romanians: -Constantin the great - Iancu from Hundora - Matei Corvine - Stefan the saint (of hungary) - in the latin document is the prof that he was romanian - Stefan the great - Michae the brave(defeated a 10x bigger turkish rmy and eliberated for a short period Builgaria and it was very close to conquer the constantinopole but the pope don't send the promised army so he must retreat and do peace with the turks
GrigoriRasputin7 2 years ago
Also Michael the Brave received later a invitation to revive the roman empire throw Walachia , but first he should become catholic. The answer was : ,,No. You must recome to orthodox religion from were you started '' Another great rumanians:Mircea the old- Vlad Tepes(dracula) - this man defeated a 5 times more bigger army in a night surprise atack . - Burebista - Alexander the great ( I don't see the point . If he is thracian than it's romanian) - Pirus - Filip II of Macedonia - Spartacus
GrigoriRasputin7 2 years ago
Those vlach and albanians are the oldest nationes in the Balkans.Check the byzantin chronicles,arogant stupid fuck!
sorin1918 2 years ago
ha ha ha ha ha, sci fi is what they teach you VLACH. you are nomadic shepherds and the shiptars came from Caucasian mountains in 10th century. bugger off moron. go and onanate on your forums you retard
KeramisijskiSin 2 years ago
Remember Kiril and Methodiu,two vlachs that made your stupid ass christians and gave you a greek alphabet so you can boost in front of other russians with those kirilic letters?
sorin1918 2 years ago
hahahahaha
Kiril and Metodi Vlachs hahahahahahahaha.
You are lunatic
KeramisijskiSin 2 years ago
:))) You are young and naiv,better go back to school!
sorin1918 2 years ago
The modern Turkish name İstanbul (Turkish pronunciation: [isˈtanbul]) is attested (in a range of variants) since the 10th century, at first in Armenian and Arabic and then in Turkish sources. It derives from the Greek phrase "εις την Πόλιν" or "στην Πόλη" [(i)stimboli(n)], both meaning "in the city" or "to the city".
sorin1918 2 years ago
- KeramisijskiSin, don´t care about this stupid uggly Gypsy called sorin1918.
spa05akw 2 years ago
It takes one to know one,right? Stupid ass
sorin1918 2 years ago
"Check some books..."
- Everything I take is from the BOOKS, idiot! On the other hand you don´t have books to read. You are analphabet or dislexy.
spa05akw 2 years ago
You would not recognise a book even if it fell on your hollow head! Your incompetence is clear as day light!
sorin1918 2 years ago
ha ha I enjoy mocking the Mamaliga spa05akw; Borat+South Park+Rumunia= COMEDY GOLD!
KeramisijskiSin 2 years ago
ahahahaha suoth park ahahah keramisijski is the best
fcfcgh 2 years ago
Kolko ste glupavi i dvamata sporite za ne6to koeto ne poznavate sprete 4e ste sme6ni.....smotaniaci...sporiat za darjava koiato ne poznavat...haide pospete i po4inete, sled tova se zapoznaite i togava pi6ete...skapaniaci....
Husamzz 2 years ago
For centuries south east europe was the centre of civilization . For a better control Roman ocupants managed to split ocupied Dacia in regions . One of them was Dacia Aurelliani in today N bulgaria. The slavs came to this area in time of peace. In In the same way they migrate to west europe now. In next 500 years they will claim Great Britain as being Bulgarian Land.
DecebalX 2 years ago
- I do not have special opinions about G. Britain or England. But there is still one fact - that a part of Thracians from Bulgaria/Romania migrated to England. They reached Germany and there they were not wellcomed so they moved futher to England. In Celtic myth Fir Bolg (Bolgar) was their first leader over there.
spa05akw 2 years ago
"fir bolg" were a mythologic people inhabiting Ireland before the coming of celts
sorin1918 2 years ago
6. I said according to the myth, Fir Bolg was Bulgarian! Myth is abreviation to mythology. Learn first how to express yourself in English in varied terms.
spa05akw 2 years ago
Buddy,i know english as well as my own native tongue and you can't bullshit me around about ancient or recent history..fir bolg have nothing to do with bulgarians,as a metter of fact,bulgarians were not even born as a nation yet
sorin1918 2 years ago
- Buddy, YOU DON´T KNOW BULGARIAN HISTORY SO KEEP QUITE PLEASE. I don´t believe a word you say, cause I know history better than you - judging from your shity talk. Bulgarians are oldest in Europe and Balkan. It is Romania that was just born yesterday, in the 19th century. Period.
spa05akw 2 years ago
"Ignorance is a bliss" ,I get it
sorin1918 2 years ago
2. ...Ignorance.. Hahahahaha.
You don´t even know that Bulgarians were born 15 000 BC and have history from that time. That make´s them one of the world´s oldest people on earth. Plus that Bulgarian first State created 15 000 BC, is world´s first State in primitive times. It is older that Sumerian and Egyptian. Hahaha.
spa05akw 2 years ago
Hahaha?..God you are soooooo ignorant,you could make even a hungarian blush! 15000 BC was a time when people still enjoyed a stake in the caverns,stupid! The Balkans were at the end of an Ice Age
sorin1918 2 years ago
- Listen to me stupid sorin1918, ancient Bulgarians came down at around 15 000 BC fom the Uralic Mountains from their caves after the glacier started to melt. They created world´s first State by uniting 7 Aryan tribes (Fin-Ugric and Altaic). In time they moved to Troy, Balkan, Apenines, Central Asia, Nortern India, Sumeria, etc. Doon´t teach me history, cause I know it better ad I am older. I do not listen to pupies like you.
spa05akw 2 years ago
You are lost to humanity ..I'm sure you never red a book in yout entire life.15000 years ago,in Europe were scatered tribes that spoke an indo-european language,fino-ugric and other altaic people(this are not arians,stupid),caucasian tribes and another cluster of tribes in the Iberian peninsula(probably bascs and others)
sorin1918 2 years ago
I tell you this sorin1918, BlaBlaBlaBlaBla You talk to much shit. Don´t repeat lies writen by others. Read true Bulgarian history, which is Greatest of all!!!
spa05akw 2 years ago
You are a young idealist ,i bet you have a shiny chicks with no hair,wet behind the ears..cause i refuse to believe an adult of 45 ..to be this stupid and ignorant about true history
sorin1918 2 years ago
- I am idealist and who are you then?! Anti-Bulgarian propagandist, charlatan and a lier. You lie about Bulgarian Great history and deny it. Í am telling the truth since it is written in ancient annals long before you were born. You are nobody to talk history. If yo want to lie or manipulate the true Bulgar history, you are born to late!!!
spa05akw 2 years ago
I'll tell you something that my history professor used to say at class :" faci umbră degeaba pământului,prostule.."
sorin1918 2 years ago