@SittinOnTheToiletFan Well no, you wouldn't. These people love doing this. The ringers on the Royal Wedding day actually got paid a small fee (I think about £20), and they also got a piece of the wedding cake.
@LordAmsterdan Ringing bells in this fashion is a system which evolved more than 350 years ago in England. It's a certain technique which requires a lot of practice but unfortunately it is not a profession. Otherwise I'd be doing it!
@LordAmsterdan No, ringing is a hobby, not a proffession!! And yes, it is a technique, which may take time to master... but then, it may not!! Some bells ARE automatic, but the vast majority of bells in England are rung this way.
feel a bellringers hands and they'll be covered in hard skin! It involves a lot of counting, concentration, rhythm and it varies for each ringer... it depends how seriously you want to take the hobby
@grison7 Yes it is, although only 8 bells are being rung there. (Here there are 10 bells.) I don't think it's the same ring of bells as well, but the way in which the bells are being sounded is the same.
Your right about Cinques, and I suppose it depends on how good a 12 bell ringer you are, and I am certainly not that good, I am happy though to drum the tenor and just get into almost a trance listening to the small bells dance between the back 5
A very nice sounding ring, I must admit I do love hearing and Ringing Stedman Caters. I think stedman is one of the loveliest sounding methods and I think that Caters is is the pefect balance, sounding better than Triples and better than Cinques.
I agree with you wholeheartedly... Caters has much more potential for music and better rollups than Triples, without being as stressful as Cinques. It is my favourite method.
@topshed34a Love Stedman, but Caters sounds a bit "wrong" - maybe cause of the odd number of pairs? Though it DOES sound much better than DOubles!! If done well, Cinques sounds brilliant!!
All ten of these ringers are listening to the rhythm, and are evenly spacing out their bells. Notice that the call to start the method only comes at 1:08, this is when the conductor decides that the rhythm has been hit.
Also the "cadence" of a piece of ringing depends upon the weight of a set of bells and how they are hung. If you took these ten ringers to a tower which had a lighter ring of thells then the ringing would undoubtedly be faster.
I've just got to ring in *g* on this. What an amazing artform, first the bells themselves, then the accomplishment of welding variously dissonant players into a team of ringers, then to create a piece which may be hundreds of years old and played every evening, or something that won't be heard again in your lifetime. How many possible orders with 8, 12, 16 bells? Listen to a performance, and see if you can recognize the ancestors of digital language.
Ringers, not players. And yes, there are methods (pieces) that can be heard thousands of times all acros the country in a week, and there are rarer methods, mostly on 8,10, and 12 bells, which arent heard very often. On 8 bells the "extent" is 40,320 changes, and this has been rung non stop using a single band of 8 ringers. It took 17 hours and 58 minutes.
@irkibby OMG-18 hours? Marathon! And a very dedicated team of ringers! Some listeners were very lucky to have heard the whole performance. Now I will have to go out and find some recordings - Thank You!
I can't watch this without remembering a scene in "The Vicar of Dibley" in which they were composing an announcement for the church newsletter that said something like "Come to bell practice and we'll show you the ropes!"
yeah this video here.. youtube no longer allows us to paste links so seach "Princess Diana's Funeral Part 21: The Bells and The Applause"
What I get confused is the changeover.. If a person is doing Method ringing do they just have to worry about their own bell but keep the spacing while playing?
Incredible, beautiful, breath taking I would never move if I lived near this. Its the best sound in the world, the sound of pealing bells. I am not Christian, but I live near a Cathedral, and every time the bells peal they just make me happy to live there.
I advise you read a book entitled "Tntinalogia" which was written by one of the first change ringers, Richard Duckworth. It was written in the art's very early stages, not in the 1970s, but in the 1700s!
It goes into how it was developed, the expanded use from handbells to swinging bells, and how change ringing bells came to exist. No mention of any sort regarding catholic monks.
Change ringing as we know it today emerged in England in the 17th century. To that era we can trace the origins of the earliest ringing societies, such as the Lincoln Cathedral Guild, which claims to date to 1612[4] or the Antient Society of Ringers of St Stephen in Bristol which was founded in 1620 and lasted as a ringing society until the late 19th century.
you are talking complete nonsense. This is English Full Circle Changeringing, which is identical to any other tower with change ringing bells in England, and even the world (Although at Westminster Abbey, and other high profile towers the ringing is kept at a very high quality). This paticular set of bells were cast in 1971. The method they are ringing is Stedman Caters, which can be, and is, rung on any set of bells numbering 10 or more.
Thanks, I couldn't hear clearly what was said. I am starting to figure out what is going on, but I certainly can't tell from listening. At this point I'm pretty pleased with myself for knowing what caters means.
So it is either Grandshire or Stedman Caters with a cover? No wonder beginners have a hard time figuring out what's going on. I'll stick to figuring out Plain Hunt. Our band can't play either of those methods anyway, and we are nowhere near as smooth even on rounds.
That is great ringing. It would be really helpful to beginners if you could say what method they are ringing. I can't hear the call, and I don't know enough to recognize anything. I'd like to have videos of methods that I can refer to to help learn.
I think this ringing is superb - I wish we could do our rounds this smoothly lol! I always get put on a very troublesome bell and clash with everyone. Ah well!
These bells must be fairly easy to handle since the rope daft is not long since the bells are only on the floor above behind the clock dials they are that low down in the tower.
They are easy going with no surprises but they are also very unforgiving and the Abbey requires a very high standard of striking. All makes for a rather tense experience.
It's also a very long climb - continuous 120 steps, no breaks ;-)
It is a requirement of the group that members protect the group boundary.
Mind you, there are probably more people who are not part of that particular group, than people who are in it; they within, miss out on not being part of the external-to-group group !
Well that's my record time. Catch you guys later.
Nezhh 2 months ago 2
Look at the description. Those dirty chaps.
Nezhh 2 months ago 2
What's the hardest thing about watching this video?
My cock.
Nezhh 2 months ago 5
This does not help my erectile dysfunction.
Magiqul 2 months ago 2
That bloke there in the purple shirt, he really makes this video for me...the saucy bastard.
Nezhh 2 months ago 2
The sound of those bells gets me every time. Instant erection.
Nezhh 2 months ago
Euphoric on every level.
Magiqul 2 months ago 2
This made me cum harder then ever.
Magiqul 2 months ago
My cock is so hard right now.
Magiqul 2 months ago
That made my penis feel rather spectacular.
Nezhh 2 months ago
Truly amazing, my cock is now freestanding.
Magiqul 2 months ago
un-bell-ievable.
Nezhh 2 months ago
Queen Elizabeth 2 Coronation bells was best!
ryansand123 3 months ago
@ryansand123 Agreed that was just beautiful. My cock is just on end right now.
Magiqul 2 months ago 2
Outstanding!
persnickity123 4 months ago
wow, look at all of those bell ends!
UrbanLegendLsZ 4 months ago
Is it as difficult as it looks?
MrEhemaliger 6 months ago
@MrEhemaliger To ring to this high standard, yes.
irkibby 6 months ago
@irkibby bless these men for aquiring such a traditional talent
zmurrey 6 months ago
@MrEhemaliger Yes, a 5 year old can do this if he were able to reach it. Its easy as abc.
UrbanLegendLsZ 4 months ago
Wow, you'd want to get payed heaps for doing that on the Royal Wedding - All that reminds me of is watching it... that sound. Memories forever.
SittinOnTheToiletFan 8 months ago
@SittinOnTheToiletFan Well no, you wouldn't. These people love doing this. The ringers on the Royal Wedding day actually got paid a small fee (I think about £20), and they also got a piece of the wedding cake.
irkibby 8 months ago
nothing sounds so English than the happy chimes of this sort of ringing.... great video... thanks for posting.... makes me think of Christmas!
timothyj1966 9 months ago
Good to see so many people looking into 'English full-circle change ringing' (the full title for this style of bellringing) after that wedding.
lunaticonthegrass111 9 months ago
The best part of the recent royal wedding!
Larsky1010 10 months ago 6
Remarkable! I love the sound!!
bogalusa5 10 months ago
so for the royal wedding bells were played by hand all the time?
giojeu 10 months ago
@giojeu Certainly. There were ten people in the tower, ringing exactly as you see here.
irkibby 10 months ago
I am surprised! I thought the bells were automathic! How do they get that?! Is it a techinique and a profession to be bellringer?!
LordAmsterdan 10 months ago
@LordAmsterdan Ringing bells in this fashion is a system which evolved more than 350 years ago in England. It's a certain technique which requires a lot of practice but unfortunately it is not a profession. Otherwise I'd be doing it!
irkibby 10 months ago
@LordAmsterdan No, ringing is a hobby, not a proffession!! And yes, it is a technique, which may take time to master... but then, it may not!! Some bells ARE automatic, but the vast majority of bells in England are rung this way.
simonbellringer 8 months ago
I could not get the sound of the Abbey bells out of my head after the royal wedding. Beautiful and haunting sound indeed.
LenaLosAngeles1983 10 months ago
Wow. Watching the wedding, I thought it was programmed. Impressive!
kinnyblack 10 months ago
i love the bells ,especially during the royal wedding, made me cry
shlynsayshi 10 months ago 2
When in Basel, we stay near an old church that sounds 2 times a day......we love it.
FinalOptions 10 months ago
Do you get rope burns doing this without gloves? Great job. I love the sound. Do you have to count at all? How many hours do you practice?
barbara5706 10 months ago
@barbara5706
feel a bellringers hands and they'll be covered in hard skin! It involves a lot of counting, concentration, rhythm and it varies for each ringer... it depends how seriously you want to take the hobby
irkibby 10 months ago
I enjoyed hearing these bells today, ringing for the royal wedding. Did they score the peal of London royal?
95tupolev 10 months ago
@95tupolev Peal of Spliced London and Bristol was duly scored
irkibby 10 months ago
For anybody who has not read The Nine Tailors by Dorothy Sayers, you will love this book! At the library!
Mamasan41 10 months ago
Isn't the sound that we hear at the beggining of High Hopes by Pink floyd?
grison7 1 year ago
@grison7 Yes it is, although only 8 bells are being rung there. (Here there are 10 bells.) I don't think it's the same ring of bells as well, but the way in which the bells are being sounded is the same.
lunaticonthegrass111 11 months ago
I want this at my wedding
onlymario21 1 year ago
Your right about Cinques, and I suppose it depends on how good a 12 bell ringer you are, and I am certainly not that good, I am happy though to drum the tenor and just get into almost a trance listening to the small bells dance between the back 5
I ring at St Andrews Cathedral in Sydney
topshed34a 1 year ago
A very nice sounding ring, I must admit I do love hearing and Ringing Stedman Caters. I think stedman is one of the loveliest sounding methods and I think that Caters is is the pefect balance, sounding better than Triples and better than Cinques.
topshed34a 1 year ago
@topshed34a
I agree with you wholeheartedly... Caters has much more potential for music and better rollups than Triples, without being as stressful as Cinques. It is my favourite method.
irkibby 1 year ago
@topshed34a Love Stedman, but Caters sounds a bit "wrong" - maybe cause of the odd number of pairs? Though it DOES sound much better than DOubles!! If done well, Cinques sounds brilliant!!
simonbellringer 11 months ago
J'adore se son plein d'espoir...
TheDavidgregoire 1 year ago
siete i migliori al mondo ciao dal gerry
ilgerry70 1 year ago 2
How do you learn how to ring the bells together with the right cadence and when to change cadence, etc? Is music written for this?
I'm in the US and don't get to hear the sound of real bells very often.
Beautiful! Keep up the tradition!
Yodasstuff 1 year ago
@Yodasstuff There is no music written for it
All ten of these ringers are listening to the rhythm, and are evenly spacing out their bells. Notice that the call to start the method only comes at 1:08, this is when the conductor decides that the rhythm has been hit.
Also the "cadence" of a piece of ringing depends upon the weight of a set of bells and how they are hung. If you took these ten ringers to a tower which had a lighter ring of thells then the ringing would undoubtedly be faster.
irkibby 1 year ago
bell ringing is the antichrist
gareth306uk2000 1 year ago
beautiful sound :)
NatashaHarper23 1 year ago 12
I've just got to ring in *g* on this. What an amazing artform, first the bells themselves, then the accomplishment of welding variously dissonant players into a team of ringers, then to create a piece which may be hundreds of years old and played every evening, or something that won't be heard again in your lifetime. How many possible orders with 8, 12, 16 bells? Listen to a performance, and see if you can recognize the ancestors of digital language.
VolkgartenBySquirrel 1 year ago
@VolkgartenBySquirrel
Ringers, not players. And yes, there are methods (pieces) that can be heard thousands of times all acros the country in a week, and there are rarer methods, mostly on 8,10, and 12 bells, which arent heard very often. On 8 bells the "extent" is 40,320 changes, and this has been rung non stop using a single band of 8 ringers. It took 17 hours and 58 minutes.
irkibby 1 year ago
@irkibby OMG-18 hours? Marathon! And a very dedicated team of ringers! Some listeners were very lucky to have heard the whole performance. Now I will have to go out and find some recordings - Thank You!
VolkgartenBySquirrel 1 year ago
Love to ring Stedman here myself, with Mr Pladys conducting, of course. No-one beats him at conducting it.
kernowoggie 1 year ago
be nice if a few more visiting ringers were allowed to ring them......unless things are different now?
duncanmoss2 1 year ago
I can't watch this without remembering a scene in "The Vicar of Dibley" in which they were composing an announcement for the church newsletter that said something like "Come to bell practice and we'll show you the ropes!"
Craspic 1 year ago
@Craspic I remember that bit. And strangely, Jim is in fact very similar to most bellringers....
irkibby 1 year ago
Beautiful sound
westminstercouncil 2 years ago 2
So these are the old men hiding out in the bunker.
oa9989 2 years ago
This reminds me of Princess Diana's funeral and the tolling of the bells
paulthewall02 2 years ago
@paulthewall02
yeah this video here.. youtube no longer allows us to paste links so seach "Princess Diana's Funeral Part 21: The Bells and The Applause"
What I get confused is the changeover.. If a person is doing Method ringing do they just have to worry about their own bell but keep the spacing while playing?
SubaruB4RSK 1 year ago
That is correct. You have leave wider or smaller gaps between the blows of your bell, to correspond with the blows of all the other bells.
irkibby 1 year ago
I have rung here, its not very easy to get a chance as they rarely allow visiting ringers.
Nice bit of Stedman caters.
am620 2 years ago
i really, really want to ring here oneday, don't think i will get the chance to though!
LauraBellringer 2 years ago
Ah you will dont worry ;)
bsmithofjy 2 years ago
@bagpiper2005 watch?v=E8oqs_MxnJE
hunga224 2 years ago
WHAT
A
LIBERTY!!
brilliant.
irkibby 2 years ago
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LOL come back to me when you can write a literate sentence you thick twat
beanz443 2 years ago
Would love to ring here but I bet you have to be invited or something. When do they practice?
kernowoggie 2 years ago
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They practice jerking each others ropes most nights of the week, im sure one will pull ur bellend. :)
beanz443 2 years ago
*sigh*
sad little man.
irkibby 2 years ago
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I'm fucking sad??? Posting videos of a bunch of bible bashing wankers pulling ropes is fucking sad. Call that bastard sad
beanz443 2 years ago
Lol - people like you are a waste of oxygen. Go and play on the motorway.
benc5040 2 years ago
I can't get past plain hunt and grandsire and bob doubles on rope sight, other than that I'm useless, total mental block. Drives me crazy.
BNCA70 2 years ago
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fucking bunch of bellends
beanz443 2 years ago
Irish moron
tom1984uk 2 years ago
Incredible, beautiful, breath taking I would never move if I lived near this. Its the best sound in the world, the sound of pealing bells. I am not Christian, but I live near a Cathedral, and every time the bells peal they just make me happy to live there.
kirwanqueren 2 years ago
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What about us atheists? Why should we 'ave to listen to that sectarian turmoil?
hunga224 2 years ago
"sectarian turmoil"? Please explain?
irkibby 2 years ago
google --- monty python bells---and all will be revealed.
hunga224 2 years ago
ah!
irkibby 2 years ago
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Episcopalian1990 2 years ago
Well, us Pagans can appreciate the beauty of this form of worship, regardless of what god(s) are involved...
SilverWolfMoon 2 years ago
That's the way to do it!
irkibby 2 years ago
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fuck you
beanz443 2 years ago
I advise you read a book entitled "Tntinalogia" which was written by one of the first change ringers, Richard Duckworth. It was written in the art's very early stages, not in the 1970s, but in the 1700s!
It goes into how it was developed, the expanded use from handbells to swinging bells, and how change ringing bells came to exist. No mention of any sort regarding catholic monks.
1BODGER95 2 years ago
It wasn't at you.If it's inconvenient i can call you a tit if you really like?
irkibby 2 years ago
An apology will not be given, being as it wasn't directed at you.
irkibby 2 years ago
no one called you a tit love. it was a response to another comment :)
irkibby 2 years ago
Not at all! No one is rubbish, as ringing is an exercise in which all you can do is excel once bell handling is mastered.
1BODGER95 2 years ago
I can name at least three change ringers who are very good, experienced and knowledgeable ringers, and one of which is a bell founder.
I strongly advise that you take head from the facts being given to you, foul language or not!
As me and Irkibby are talking perfect and true sense, I do believe it is you sir who must hush!
1BODGER95 2 years ago
Well, Mr.asaenz1836 wouldn't know a bleed'n bell if it struck him over the head, never mind call changes. That's how accurate his sources are!
1BODGER95 2 years ago
practice makes perfect.
irkibby 2 years ago
tit.
irkibby 2 years ago
the first change ringers were not monks. you claimed they were and argued when we said they werent.
You clearly know fuck all about this. Take your history books and shove them. You might know a lot of facts but that doest make you right, at all.
irkibby 2 years ago
Dear Mr asaenz1836, you Sir, are an idiot!
anonmonen 2 years ago
Change ringing as we know it today emerged in England in the 17th century. To that era we can trace the origins of the earliest ringing societies, such as the Lincoln Cathedral Guild, which claims to date to 1612[4] or the Antient Society of Ringers of St Stephen in Bristol which was founded in 1620 and lasted as a ringing society until the late 19th century.
No Mention of Monks there then!!
anonmonen 2 years ago
I will leave you with this. Sir Isaac Newton was one of the first English bell ringers. Was he a Monk?
1BODGER95 2 years ago
you originally said that changeringing came about because of monks.
It did not. Fact.
irkibby 2 years ago
lol.
irkibby 2 years ago
I don't think he does either. Lol.
1BODGER95 2 years ago
You are the fool when you are denying that the reformation ever occured!
Out of interest, what are your sources for your comment on benedictene monks and change ringing?
1BODGER95 2 years ago
let the div have his rant. It's amusing, I don't think he even knows what he is arguing about any more.
irkibby 2 years ago
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1BODGER95 2 years ago
Change ringing gradually evolved after the reformation. Therefore, whatever the heck is change ringing going to have to do with monks?
irkibby 2 years ago
shut up
louisisyourgod 2 years ago
you are talking complete nonsense. This is English Full Circle Changeringing, which is identical to any other tower with change ringing bells in England, and even the world (Although at Westminster Abbey, and other high profile towers the ringing is kept at a very high quality). This paticular set of bells were cast in 1971. The method they are ringing is Stedman Caters, which can be, and is, rung on any set of bells numbering 10 or more.
irkibby 2 years ago
in what way?
irkibby 2 years ago
No Ladies???
1BODGER95 2 years ago
Did anyone hear the quarter here on Jan 1st? What was it like?
Whittingtons 3 years ago
These are better thn our 10 cos our band just peeps over 100 lol
pker816 3 years ago
He says 'a fraction closer please' at 0:40 :)
PiNInFarina18 3 years ago
Impressive!! I wish to God we had that here!
promiseIsaih60 3 years ago
Westminster Abbey Cardio-vascular work-out room
OoYesIKnowOoYesIKnow 3 years ago
Thanks, I couldn't hear clearly what was said. I am starting to figure out what is going on, but I certainly can't tell from listening. At this point I'm pretty pleased with myself for knowing what caters means.
amfalk 3 years ago
So it is either Grandshire or Stedman Caters with a cover? No wonder beginners have a hard time figuring out what's going on. I'll stick to figuring out Plain Hunt. Our band can't play either of those methods anyway, and we are nowhere near as smooth even on rounds.
amfalk 3 years ago
i want to maybe do this someday.
I read the notes that the bells are tuned to on wikipedia.
JDK0316191 3 years ago
That is great ringing. It would be really helpful to beginners if you could say what method they are ringing. I can't hear the call, and I don't know enough to recognize anything. I'd like to have videos of methods that I can refer to to help learn.
amfalk 3 years ago
I think its Grandsire
Widor5 3 years ago
Evening
they are ringing a touch of Stedman Caters, Caters being on 9 bells with the tenor covering.
irkibby 3 years ago
All ringing should be this good.
irkibby 3 years ago
I don't snivell and if you do, take a lem sip!
kernowoggie 3 years ago
I don't mind a bit of an argument, enlivens the spirit!
kernowoggie 3 years ago
I do know my "stuff"!
kernowoggie 3 years ago
Glemsford! My Mum lived there when she was a kid. Keep up the ringing. My Grandparents live in Bury St. Edmunds. Nice bells at the cathedral there.
Whittingtons 3 years ago
Yes, lovely bells at the cathedral (Norman Tower) in Bury. I've rung a couple of good peals there.
louisisyourgod 3 years ago
doves says there are 4 unused bells, plus a sanctus. can anyone enlighten me????
1BODGER95 3 years ago
I cannot tell you all what a joy it is for me when I am in London for major royal events and I hear these bells. Simply Beautiful!
englandmarshman 3 years ago
lol theres a familiar sound lol i bet there nice to ring
pal05pmajor3 3 years ago
WHITECHAPEL He he he
1BODGER95 3 years ago
I certainly am.
irkibby 3 years ago
I think this ringing is superb - I wish we could do our rounds this smoothly lol! I always get put on a very troublesome bell and clash with everyone. Ah well!
Knappa22 4 years ago
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Knappa22 4 years ago
to be precise Steadman is a "principle" and not a method.
kernowoggie 4 years ago
OWNED
louisisyourgod 4 years ago 3
to be precise you spelt Stedman wrong.
irkibby 4 years ago 2
These bells must be fairly easy to handle since the rope daft is not long since the bells are only on the floor above behind the clock dials they are that low down in the tower.
SrWilson 4 years ago
They are easy going with no surprises but they are also very unforgiving and the Abbey requires a very high standard of striking. All makes for a rather tense experience.
It's also a very long climb - continuous 120 steps, no breaks ;-)
ProfMoose 4 years ago
Good to see churches that still use bells like this!
TrainmasterCurt 4 years ago
if fabian stedman could here this he would be well pleased to hear his priciple being rung so well
belvedere261 4 years ago
Half muffled peal sounds better
jsncrso 4 years ago
I love Stedman, my fav method!!!!!
clapperend 4 years ago
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ebethgrace 4 years ago
what dioscean is the Abbey part of? Or is it even in the Aincent Society of College Youths?
Regards
Gareth
concorde216 4 years ago
The Abbey is not in a diocese, it is a Royal Peculiar, and as such under the sole authority of the Sovereign.
edders05 4 years ago
It sounds so nice!
waltzplayer 4 years ago
Most of the ones I know of are anyway.
I suspect these guys are from the college youths?
SrWilson 4 years ago
Must be an ASCY band - although not a member myself, I recognise about half the band and I know those are ASCY members.
namm256 4 years ago
Nice ringing there.
Im not generally keen on london ringers generally though they are all arrogant.
SrWilson 4 years ago
probably so; typical of groups.
It is a requirement of the group that members protect the group boundary.
Mind you, there are probably more people who are not part of that particular group, than people who are in it; they within, miss out on not being part of the external-to-group group !
Cheers.
from,
del-boy.
Dzhendobri 4 years ago
fantastic
louisisyourgod 4 years ago
very nice, im not that keen on 10 bell ringing but that was nice
clapperend 4 years ago
Although it's only a ring of 10, they seem so well rung, it sounds like more!
mjgriff74 4 years ago