@TheRMSTitanic103 Its not an opinion its a fact. You cannot say facts are stupid. Its like saying. The titanic didnt sink, thats stupid...its a fact...wow
En 1997 una chica llamada estaba caminando en un bosque, después desapareció de repente nunca nadie la encontró hasta el 2000 hasta que otra chica llama Mary encontró su cuerpo y unas marcas en su pecho decían: no era lo suficientemente hermosa y ahora que haz? leído esto ella aparecerá en tu espejo diciendo que no eres lo suficientemente hermoso y te matara!(Por cierto la chica llamada Mary murió poco tiempo después)Para poder salvarte pega esto en otros 5 vídeos. ESTO ES CIERTO
@neonblaze1498 OK, but in school I read this book called "On Board The Titanic" and they said she broke from 30 degress, maybe some people change there minds or forgot there research. -_-'
@ppi35trk Then, you have not begun to even acquire a rivet counter's detailed knowledge of the ship and her passengers. For instance.... what were the small crane-like structures beneath her A Deck promenade windows called? How many anchors were on board the ship? Who were the first victims of the sinking? Which passenger survived one other ship disaster?
@Titan52berg I apologize for my 7 year old. He has yet to learn some of the more fine details. But give him time and he will learn. Of course, you gave something else to look up and learn about it.
come on 1 huge sea and espacialy that crew choose out the spot to fare if they mived on 70 meters to left they would get home and the titanic wouldnt crash and now ben in a museum
@jamin108 not just arguing for arguments state but. there is not proof of the funnels coming off during sinking, it could have happened whilst going down. funnels smoke stacks, meh
@shoffingproductions Not trying to be a perfectionist but there's something wrong at the cracking of the ship because how the ship cracked was like the stern and bow were still kept loosely together by bent metal and some of the yet not cracked interior, and also the bottom steel plate, it fully cracks only after the bow is fully underwater, so that it isn't visible, but a great, great animation, just that it isn't perfect. 4/5
@LivingInTheLimeligh7 it couldnt have been attached, otherwise the to wreckages at the bottom of the atlantic would be sat side by side, but the two peices are 800 yards away from eachother. the front of the ship was already full of water, whilst the top half wasnt, thats why it snapped and broke apart.
@twotellys12 well i atleast thought that the bow and stern were held together by the bottom steel plate and some of the outer hull and it fully cracked when the bow was fully underwater.
there is a little problem with the ship's sinking, not that I'm saying it was bad, it was good. But there was an issue with the splitting, Titanic's stern was high in the air, not leveled with the water. maybe it wasn't easy to do that part, other than that it was great!
Hate to say this but its likely that Titanic`s stern never got more than 15 degrees. People in the water looking up at a 11 story tall ship would think 15 degrees was 60 degrees. At 13 degrees to 15 degrees the keel is visabl like Lightoller said and enough of the stern was unsupported by the water to cause the break. Its possible she went higher but its hard to say for sure.
Actually, this is not true. Titanic is even shallower looking up close. Unless they are all behind the stern, which I doubt, it will not increase the look.
Also, the true influence from weight is over 17 degrees minimum. It does make decent enough difference.
No more then 15 boggles me. It's not design vs water influence and time, stress is little different here. More like a quick break.
9.5+ to 17+ in just 3-4 mins. I think it would take just that to undergo the visible break stage.
Actually I would have to disagree cause when your looking up at a ship that is 11 storys tall its 15* is going to look like alot more than it really is. Just like when you view from far away such as a scale profile plan 15* puts the ship just right for lightoller to see the keel as he said as well as put the crows nest even with the water when the bridge went under since lightoller said that he started to swim towards it.
I would also say 17* isnt that much higher than 15*. I have played with both are very simmilar but the thing is the 17* one before the break doesnt fit in with testimony. The 15* angle does how ever. If I still was able to create slide shows and such, I would make one using the 15* and 17* angles and post a video of it.
No, it just doesn't give the illusion, it's high in the air, but I've seen it looks less like it would be 60 up close unless from the back.
Iv'e seen in many angles from the ship that it makes enough difference. From a POV of trying to make it 45 one could agree, but there is a decent deal of difference in many angles. Two degrees can make the focsel and well from above water, to well under.
Why wouldn't it fit with testimony? Tell me, no tells much and how would they know. Might as well trust tests of design vs water per square inch rather human assumption, which is all 11-15 is.
Because putting her at 17* would put the crows nest underwater when the bridge went under. Lightoller said it was level cause he was swimmin towards it while being sucked back in the forward facing ventilation shaft. You see the pivot point of Titanic isnt going to stay directly centered under the central compass platform its going to move aft as more compartmets flood.
First of all, he went to the mast, saw it wasn't safe, then headed back. Nothing else stated. The charts agree, but it keeps sinking afterwards.
It was not while he was being sucked against it. Check again.
This argument makes no sense, it counts not on the mast. It was level at the time, but nothing aside a man who wasn't there keeps saying this means it settles, where as even science said it did not.
Last part, I know, it wasn't mentioned. In my vid it's between the 3rd & 4th funnel.
what are you talking about it wasnt mentioned nd that in your vid its between the 3rd and 4th funnel? The center of gravity wasnt between the 3rd and 4th funnel till she finally tore herself apart. The COG was between the 3rd and 2nd funnel but moved aft as more and more compartments flooded.
but either way I would have to go back and get the exact day and question numbers but lightoller said he swam towars the crows nest which was level with the water when the bridge was submerged and he started to swim towards it but gave up as he was being sucked back towards the forward ventilation shaft. But he DID say that. I wouldnt mention it if he didnt clearly say that. He also clearly said you could clearly see the keel and at 15* you can see the keel moving the pivot point aft.
No, I read over it, I got the site, and it's as ANTR the book also states. He swam back and on the way, got sucked to the first vent.
The vent is too far away from where he dived in on the bridge.
I know the rest of what your saying, but it doesn't really matter as it's already know. There is still nothing physical to it because both is suportive, while the other is real science results. The subtle difference did count.
If you dont want to hear another word then why are you trying to get the last word in? To be honest I already disagree with you and said I did and I dont care if you agree with me or not. You havent showed me anything to cause me to change my opinion or my belief of what went down and how. Science to be honest isnt going to tell you what happned or how things happened. We dont know the exact damage or where it was to figure in how water would have flooded to get an accurate sinking model.
Is the design vs water weight per square inch + testimony enough? You realize in order for funnel 1 to even fall, the actual mast has to be under water anywho.
You realize damage only changes changes the time. This sinking simulation only relied on how much it has to fill titanic to get to which angle matters most. People have underestimated this test.
We do know quite enough of the berg damage by sonar.
Your only going to tell me things I already knew is why no more.
lol you are beliing the sonar damage done in 1998 as truth? Did you know they scanned the port side hull also and found the same exact damage. They didnt release that to public but real researchers like me and others that are on the Encylopedia Titanica forums knows this. That damage is nothing more than damage caused by her collision with the ocean floor. So that has to be throw out. Now my sinking model is based off flood rate in the sense of when people stated water was where.
There are reports of what compartments were damaged as well as in some cases how far past the bulkhead or how high above the stokehold plates the damage was. We also have times of when water was where at what time which gives a fairly good estimate of the flood rate up to then. problem is though you have to slow the rate of water coming in down as the water pressure inside slows the water coming in.
But by time this happened the port side d-deck and E deck gangway doors were at or below the water letting more water in doubling the flood rate. Not to mention some of the portholes were left open so flooding rate would actally increase but she wouldnt sink into the water more for a while as water has to find its way down into the bottom of ship.
You just dont get it do you. The amount of damage and the location of the damage does matter. For instance compartment #1 wasnt taking on water because air was heard escaping the peak tank or as you would probably know it as the forward ballast tank. Once that flooded from the damage that was it water was trapped there. So #1 compartment stayed dry till water poured in through the anchor chain openings or open port holes.
not to mention you have a long period of time where the Titanic just sits there and doesnt sink any lower into the water. So the amount of water it takes to fill her up and the time for her to sink isnt going to help. Thats like the firemens passage it was water tight itself so water flooded only the starboard side of this passage but the port side of the compartment the passage was in was dry till water rose up above the passage than moved over to port. That explains the instant list reported
Funny because I am not spaming the video I said what I belived YOU went out of your way to disagree with me telling me I am wrong on a opinion and a theory I have. You dont agree fine dont but dont get all ass hurt cause people disagree with you. I say you need to get off the computer and get a life cause you would know people dont always agree.
Just like how stupid you are being saying that I am using science but said not to. I said science cant be used in the sinking cause we dont know the damage she had. We know she had 12 square feet estimated but we dont know exactly where it is or how much so we cant use science to predict how the ship would sink cause we dont know the damage the rate of flooding how the flooding occured not to mention no blueprints that shows all last min additions that would hamper water flow or portholes open
or the gangway doors that were opened. Hell the 1998 computer simulation done didnt even figure in the increased area of water intake when the upper decks went under water.
Either way you want to belive it or not I dont care but you really need to learn that not everyone is going to agree. I done stated I dont agree with you and stated my position. You said you were done and didnt want to hear another one but your still making replys saying im wrong.
im not getting angry im just growing tired of how you are proclaiming others are wrong and touting science as being the answer to everything. It can answer some questions but not all.
Now on getting life though your the one arguing over me being wrong I have done stated that I dont care what you think I disagree with it but if you want to belive it go ahead thats your choice. I belive what I belive because I did the research and that is what makes sense to me.
Again, it takes only 2 minutes from 12 degrees to reach 17 starting at 2:15 A.M.. This is by the official charts. If not, it would break too soon. The other claims she settles at 15 degrees and then ignores the charts.
Stress is not 10-15, it's 10-20, as 20 is barely any different. It won't snap in the blink of an eye by reaching peak stress. This is the film. At the size & what they learned in 1998 that the metal had greater strength then thought, it should take minutes to fully fail.
Yea and since 1998 they have found out that now theres a very high chance that atleast 75% of the rivets contains too much slag. not to mention Titanic started breaking moments after the collision. No ship breaks clean in two at one moment like you said. Now if you want to keep on talking about 10 - 20 degres and that 20 isnt much different than 10 or 15 degrees go ahead. I still dont agree and either way no two people always agree on Titanic.
I mean look at the historians they claim the port side D-deck gangway door opened with the collision of the sea floor even though the E deck portside door is open as well as the D deck which fits with the order Lightoller gave. That is the problem some are making assumptions and not keeping testimony of survivors in mind. They are not all 100% correct but they were there and are describing what THEY saw and what THEY thought they saw. Its better than a computer model cause computer model.
True about the thing on 1998, but i'm not really focussed on this at all. It's can be put as more on testimony and the time it takes to reach 17 from 12, ending at 2:17-2:18 A.M. from 2:15 A.M..
Remember Theyer states the second funnel falls, so 17 supports this being closer. He doesn't detail any else on the first funnel at all.
A woman stated the lights went as she broke & that 1 can't push him towards B but away, 17 is more correct.
if I recall correctly Thayer said the funnel fell off to starboard. I dont buy that because Col Archibald Gracie was under water holding onto the railing atop the Gym roof which is on the starboard side of #2 funnel. He would have been crushed by it. Thats why I dont buy the 1985/86 theory of the funnel knocking the Gym`s roof in. That would have killed Graice. So you see thats why you have to look at all evidence then find common ground cause some didnt see what they thought they did.
I am going by what Gracie said himself he was there and he knows about how long he was under. He was under long enough that when he came up to the surface Titanic was GONE. Thats what he said in his book he wrote before he died. So Titanic had to have sank quickly after water reached the second funnel or he was under water agood length of time.
They thought the funnel 2 fell under water in 85-86. to begin with, I don't think it as so too.
Well, you forgot that Thayer never said over to starboard specifically, just near him. I see it as falling fowards more, missing by 20 ft+ while jack was 30-40ft+ away. He doesn't know himself either.
Also, again, 1 can't push him towards B, but away. Even if he get sweped under, it's resting at the shallow angle and blocks his path. I'm going on all evidence mostly to begin with.
well all I know is I have heard the funnel fell to starboard for years and I belive Thayer said that also but it could have fell forward as he claimed. Problem is though if it fell forward then why didnt it take he mast out. It should have slid forward and took the mast out. Since it didnt if it fell forward it had to roll off to port or starboard. Doubtful it was starboard since Gracie was still holding on.
That is just like the lights theres alot of theorys as to why the went out came back on and went out again. Looking at the layout of the ship I would lean towards someting causing the main circuit to go out. Probably the main steam line ruptured. The emergency dynamo`s three decks above would have kicked on then and since she was breaking apart internally that steam line ruptured as well.
Yea you know #2 funnel falling forwards sine #1 already fell forward and to port was gone so it would have slide forward hitting the mast or at the very least the rigging and knocked the mast forward which it didnt do. The rigging of the mast is very complicated to explain here but the funnel falling forward would have hit the rigging not to mention you got the wireless antenna wires going up from the deck house roof to the antenna between #1 and #2 funnel would have hit that also.
Gracie was never near the gym......the most anyone made him out was at the Officer Quarters.
Your worry is debunked...if it fell to the side, which jack did not mention on, it would never hit him, even falling fowards with the port list.
Still, stop arguing, you flooded this video just because someone is not goin with a respected man, but science. Also, don't tell me about following science is bad, thn do it yourself. This shows a case of wanting a theory more.
I dont recall graice being at the inquiry but he DID say he was at the gym in his book. He said there was a huge wave coming aft on the boat deck the same time a huge gaggle of people came out of the starboard side first class boatdeck entrance and started running aft. He did the same thing and near the gym he jumped up to grab the railing where the water lifted him up to grab the railing and he held on not knowing what was going on out of shock and was submerged under water.
Murdoch was starboardside at the entrance to the first cass grand staircase or just forward of it. but just saying he was near his position doesnt mean he was standing right next to him. He was helping to load lifeboats and he was near the grand staircase when he saw a wave come up over the bridge and people come up out of the first class entrance to get washed away which is when he ran aft and jumped up and grabbed the railing atop the gym. That is connected to the first class entrance.
lol You are fucking stupid god. The officers quarters goes back to the grand staircase foreward wall thats between the #1 and #2 funnel. Not only that but even if he said that how the fuck could he see people coming out of the grand staircase and run aft towards him when the wave washed aft on the boat deck if the staircase was aft of his position?
Also youve done said twice now that your done so what is it are you done or are you going to keep arguing?
But either way you are calling me a kid when I am older than you, have probably researched Titanic longer than you have also considering my research got started back in 1994. Either way you are the one that started this so how about you stop saying your done and make replys after you say that.
You dont agree with me and thats fine just leave it at that because you obviously dont know SHIT about the Titanic`s layout if you said he was first near murdoch`s position then that he was near the officers quarters and that wasnt near the staircase or the gym when the officers quarters stopped AT the staircase.But he said he was NEAR the officers quarter doesn mean he was right along side them just means he was near them. later in his book he indicates aft of the staircase alongside of the gym
Thats the part I liked cause its amazing how he got washed down but he still managed to grab ahold of the railing above the gym and hold on long enoug that by time he let go and swam to the surface he didnt see Titanic she was already gone. Things must have happened very quickly or he was under water along time. I know the break up started very early on in the sinking could have broke quickly when it came to seperating into two pieces.
I would have to disagree again cause that goes against logic and science at 10 degrees less of the hull is being supported by the weight and as the stern is lifted higher and higher out of the water by the bow stresses are increasing all the time.Thats why stoke hold plates had water coming up through them back in boiler room #2 while #3 and 4 were dry still.15 degrees the keel is completly visable and clear out of the water on the props the stern is thus supporting itself with very high stress
it sank so fast like any other ship titanic did not sink that fast it sank like about 1 hour and half so think before putting a video in youtube because your rating now is 4 and a half k so think about it k
Kinda not right to proclaim yourself as a Titanic expert especially when you got the time wrong, she sank in 2 hours and 40 minutes. 11:40pm - 2:20am. 11:40 - 12:40 = 1 hour, 12:40 - 1:40 = 2 hours, 1:40 - 2:20 - 40 minutes
ok the worlds strongest ship ever splits in half the better be a good explanation for that i fell bad for ppl they were so happy they got on that boat
>_>...
dillpic88 1 week ago
you couldnt even get the funnels to fall???
dillpic88 1 week ago
This is stupid...IT DID NOT BREAK SO QUICKLY! WRONG ANGLE TOO!!!!!!
TheRMSTitanic103 2 months ago
@TheRMSTitanic103 Wow, you idiot! You could see the whole thing was sped up , therefore, the split would have been sped up!
Films0R0Us 3 weeks ago
@Films0R0Us i understand, but still the angle is wrong
TheRMSTitanic103 2 weeks ago
@TheRMSTitanic103 Have you seen the latest evidence? that tje split started at around 10 degrees ect.
Films0R0Us 2 weeks ago
@Films0R0Us yeah ive heard and its STUPID. Im entitled to my opinion
TheRMSTitanic103 1 week ago
@TheRMSTitanic103 Its not an opinion its a fact. You cannot say facts are stupid. Its like saying. The titanic didnt sink, thats stupid...its a fact...wow
Films0R0Us 1 week ago
@Films0R0Us youre the one whose stupid here STFU and GTFO end of discussion!
TheRMSTitanic103 1 week ago
@TheRMSTitanic103 And thats how you know, yuo have given up, and that I have won.
Films0R0Us 1 week ago
@Films0R0Us >_<+
TheRMSTitanic103 1 week ago
sorry , amm is horrible
MeGustanLasLays 3 months ago
no
1963macedo 4 months ago
The fourth funnel was false one. only for ventilation, no smoke!
Cizurator 4 months ago
Is Titanic using super Turbo NOS propeller that she just like moving 100 km/h while weighing of 50,000 tonnes???
guguk2007 5 months ago
lol
sdsvfgs9 5 months ago
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En 1997 una chica llamada estaba caminando en un bosque, después desapareció de repente nunca nadie la encontró hasta el 2000 hasta que otra chica llama Mary encontró su cuerpo y unas marcas en su pecho decían: no era lo suficientemente hermosa y ahora que haz? leído esto ella aparecerá en tu espejo diciendo que no eres lo suficientemente hermoso y te matara!(Por cierto la chica llamada Mary murió poco tiempo después)Para poder salvarte pega esto en otros 5 vídeos. ESTO ES CIERTO
lizzbelle4 5 months ago
so fast!!
DenzelMaster 5 months ago
kkkkkkkkkkk
DenzelMaster 5 months ago
add more fireworks
30inventionman 5 months ago
TITANIC the movie didnt really have to be 3 hours long, this would have done it for me :)
twotellys12 7 months ago
HA. it's like a cake in the inside... wait, where are jack and rose...?
chikklet888 7 months ago
well looks like nobody made it off the titanic now
horrorland01 7 months ago
look's like titanic was already half way to sinking
ayyejayy19 8 months ago
0:07 ICEBERG RIGHT AHEAD!
cbolanz1 8 months ago
lol looks like titanic wanted to hit that iceburg going 180 mph lol good job
SuperTerminatrix 9 months ago
@badback22 red is distress flares...white was all they had
mrpwnedish 9 months ago
I like it but maybe you can add sounds
torowl 9 months ago
lol at 0:12 their celebrating with fireworks. (yes i do know wat thosr really are i was joking)
mattr0cs 10 months ago
The stern supposed to go up 30 degees, thats the angle when titanic broke in 2.
CRM09ify 11 months ago
@CRM09ify that isnt really how titanic broke it broke at 11 degrees....and both ends came back up out of the water and then went down
neonblaze1498 10 months ago
@neonblaze1498 OK, but in school I read this book called "On Board The Titanic" and they said she broke from 30 degress, maybe some people change there minds or forgot there research. -_-'
CRM09ify 10 months ago
@CRM09ify lol
neonblaze1498 9 months ago
Just watched this again for the first time in over a year. I laughed. Good times
shoffing 11 months ago
No wonder it sank, sailing at that speed is asking for trouble.
gav1983 11 months ago
It wasn't that fast
jlasalvia 11 months ago
Show how to do
kickidii 1 year ago
Umm .. If in reality the titanic was that fast .. It would have reached new york within 2 micro seconds :/
But cool video .. Although it could have been a little bit slower plus music ! :)
TheMjlover4eva 1 year ago
what software?????
malibuqjc 1 year ago
so gay
addres999 1 year ago
its cute :3
alexandthomas 1 year ago
WTF ? FIREWORKS ?
gabrileferrazzo 1 year ago
@gabrileferrazzo Not fireworks :) warning flares :p
badback22 11 months ago
@badback22 ok, but this like fireworks
gabrileferrazzo 11 months ago
looks like rigs of rods ....
GOOGLA1996 1 year ago
It´s F1 Titanic! =P
boleamj 1 year ago
gay do it on roblox.com it will be better
Ryanthekill8 1 year ago
The TITANIC broke in 3 pieces *But broke underwater*
RedLego391 1 year ago
i dont think the titanic snapped. p.s plz add dramatic music
annie10103 1 year ago
98% pERFECT !!! OK SUPER !!! RESPECT
MrDawidpokorowski 1 year ago
i say slow it down and add foem for realisom p.s. find out how to snap of the smockstacks. like the vid
quintanafaj2009 1 year ago
best animated version ive ever seen so far but please make a slower version
UOFKfan100 1 year ago
lol nicce ;)
FvfvxcvxcvGameGuy 1 year ago
OMG its fast it was not like that
flamindude300 1 year ago
PLEAASSEEE can i have that model. i am going to make a full lengh film called Titanic, the true story :)
Dinobot2468 1 year ago
@Dinobot2468 and if u cud could it be un animated. thanx
Dinobot2468 1 year ago
Anyone reminded of a lousy version of need for speed ???? xD
I do like it though, Good job !!
SWAP1to3 1 year ago
i have a lot of knowlege on titanic and i'm only 7 so you can shut up about it ok
ppi35trk 1 year ago
@ppi35trk Then, you have not begun to even acquire a rivet counter's detailed knowledge of the ship and her passengers. For instance.... what were the small crane-like structures beneath her A Deck promenade windows called? How many anchors were on board the ship? Who were the first victims of the sinking? Which passenger survived one other ship disaster?
Titan52berg 1 year ago
@Titan52berg I apologize for my 7 year old. He has yet to learn some of the more fine details. But give him time and he will learn. Of course, you gave something else to look up and learn about it.
ppi35trk 1 year ago
@Titan52berg wow you really told that 7 year old, I am so so impressed your mother must be so proud she bustin her buttons
ppi35trk 1 year ago
Rose we're sinking, hold on to the...
9KILLJOY 1 year ago
nice job!! :o
wolfgirl1339 1 year ago
That is not how Titanic broke in half.
MalaFiumanka 1 year ago
The Titanic didn't sail THAT fast!!!
MalaFiumanka 1 year ago
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100% perfect, but plz slow it down! it would be even better
habbokerel1 1 year ago
in this it made it look like it was shooting firewokrs because they were glad it was sinking
hollywoodwooof 1 year ago
what about the life boats and people and energy - lightbulb-shshang
And .... the sceary music ... xD
Super7317 1 year ago
come on 1 huge sea and espacialy that crew choose out the spot to fare if they mived on 70 meters to left they would get home and the titanic wouldnt crash and now ben in a museum
TheMoviemaker911 1 year ago
0:28 were saved! 0:29 were doomed!
SouthernRR6133 1 year ago
"But this ship can't sink!"
EmileSabetiMehr 1 year ago
Lol at first i was like: " TITANIC IS A FRIKIN SPEEDBOAT!?". Lol please slow it down. :D
sentinel12456 1 year ago
The titanic wasnt too fast >_>
DDxmikee75xDD 1 year ago
Horrible.
MeanDirtyDan 1 year ago
cool what program???
adame5176 2 years ago
0:11 LOL its the happiest place on EARTH
Kondaar 2 years ago
Lol! they're celebrating! Happy New Year!
pianofan12 2 years ago
32 seconds of terror that's just brutal man
vikki374 2 years ago
el titanic is cool
The5654 2 years ago
Note: The titanic split in half when it was almost standing up on the ocean. Any way nice.
MikeBodeProductions 2 years ago
actually a new theory suggests a smaller angle in which it split
Mr41432 2 years ago
yeah you have to slow it down
xaris96 2 years ago
slow it down a make the first chimney fall and that is great
titanicmad4ever 2 years ago
can you prove that? no, you can't.
yourassisgood 2 years ago
Well, I've heard that Titanic hit an iceberg with a great speed, but not so great I think :D
GerasLt3 2 years ago
The smoke stacks were supposed to snap off
jamin108 2 years ago 6
couldnt figure that out. (how to do it) i will if i ever do it again
shoffingproductions 2 years ago 4
@jamin108 I totally agree!
MeanDirtyDan 1 year ago
@jamin108 not just arguing for arguments state but. there is not proof of the funnels coming off during sinking, it could have happened whilst going down. funnels smoke stacks, meh
whsiriotx 1 year ago
@jamin108 only one of them
song0poster 1 year ago
how do you make them wat do you download
Troyshock 2 years ago
ya dude slow it down
8LittleFishies 2 years ago
so you wanna see a 2 hour sink??? LOL
petresko14 2 years ago
looks like it shows a lot of promise, but you still have much to learn.
kiml42 2 years ago 12
thanks
shoffingproductions 2 years ago
100% perfect, but plz slow it down! it would be even better
thefistoffury1 2 years ago 14
ok, i will if i ever do it again
shoffingproductions 2 years ago
@shoffingproductions Not trying to be a perfectionist but there's something wrong at the cracking of the ship because how the ship cracked was like the stern and bow were still kept loosely together by bent metal and some of the yet not cracked interior, and also the bottom steel plate, it fully cracks only after the bow is fully underwater, so that it isn't visible, but a great, great animation, just that it isn't perfect. 4/5
LivingInTheLimeligh7 8 months ago
@LivingInTheLimeligh7 it couldnt have been attached, otherwise the to wreckages at the bottom of the atlantic would be sat side by side, but the two peices are 800 yards away from eachother. the front of the ship was already full of water, whilst the top half wasnt, thats why it snapped and broke apart.
twotellys12 7 months ago
@twotellys12 well i atleast thought that the bow and stern were held together by the bottom steel plate and some of the outer hull and it fully cracked when the bow was fully underwater.
LivingInTheLimeligh7 7 months ago
@thefistoffury1 Ya i agree
bubby49118 1 year ago
the break in half is 30 degress what the it didnt came up
ejay201 2 years ago
Nie podobało mi się ,kompletnie źle odtworzona animacja!!!!!!
cesarski77 2 years ago
i didn't even hit the iceberg but cool =]
burnout224 2 years ago
3/5
RoDo934 2 years ago
has she been fucking 80 mph?
anyways:great modelling
Blinkwing 2 years ago
there is a little problem with the ship's sinking, not that I'm saying it was bad, it was good. But there was an issue with the splitting, Titanic's stern was high in the air, not leveled with the water. maybe it wasn't easy to do that part, other than that it was great!
tophrules0978 2 years ago
Hate to say this but its likely that Titanic`s stern never got more than 15 degrees. People in the water looking up at a 11 story tall ship would think 15 degrees was 60 degrees. At 13 degrees to 15 degrees the keel is visabl like Lightoller said and enough of the stern was unsupported by the water to cause the break. Its possible she went higher but its hard to say for sure.
Milner62 2 years ago
not long ago
powertower8000 2 years ago
Actually, this is not true. Titanic is even shallower looking up close. Unless they are all behind the stern, which I doubt, it will not increase the look.
Also, the true influence from weight is over 17 degrees minimum. It does make decent enough difference.
No more then 15 boggles me. It's not design vs water influence and time, stress is little different here. More like a quick break.
9.5+ to 17+ in just 3-4 mins. I think it would take just that to undergo the visible break stage.
silenceofthehills 2 years ago
Actually I would have to disagree cause when your looking up at a ship that is 11 storys tall its 15* is going to look like alot more than it really is. Just like when you view from far away such as a scale profile plan 15* puts the ship just right for lightoller to see the keel as he said as well as put the crows nest even with the water when the bridge went under since lightoller said that he started to swim towards it.
Milner62 2 years ago
I would also say 17* isnt that much higher than 15*. I have played with both are very simmilar but the thing is the 17* one before the break doesnt fit in with testimony. The 15* angle does how ever. If I still was able to create slide shows and such, I would make one using the 15* and 17* angles and post a video of it.
Milner62 2 years ago
No, it just doesn't give the illusion, it's high in the air, but I've seen it looks less like it would be 60 up close unless from the back.
Iv'e seen in many angles from the ship that it makes enough difference. From a POV of trying to make it 45 one could agree, but there is a decent deal of difference in many angles. Two degrees can make the focsel and well from above water, to well under.
silenceofthehills 2 years ago
Why wouldn't it fit with testimony? Tell me, no tells much and how would they know. Might as well trust tests of design vs water per square inch rather human assumption, which is all 11-15 is.
silenceofthehills 2 years ago
Because putting her at 17* would put the crows nest underwater when the bridge went under. Lightoller said it was level cause he was swimmin towards it while being sucked back in the forward facing ventilation shaft. You see the pivot point of Titanic isnt going to stay directly centered under the central compass platform its going to move aft as more compartmets flood.
Milner62 2 years ago
First of all, he went to the mast, saw it wasn't safe, then headed back. Nothing else stated. The charts agree, but it keeps sinking afterwards.
It was not while he was being sucked against it. Check again.
This argument makes no sense, it counts not on the mast. It was level at the time, but nothing aside a man who wasn't there keeps saying this means it settles, where as even science said it did not.
Last part, I know, it wasn't mentioned. In my vid it's between the 3rd & 4th funnel.
silenceofthehills 2 years ago
what are you talking about it wasnt mentioned nd that in your vid its between the 3rd and 4th funnel? The center of gravity wasnt between the 3rd and 4th funnel till she finally tore herself apart. The COG was between the 3rd and 2nd funnel but moved aft as more and more compartments flooded.
Milner62 2 years ago
but either way I would have to go back and get the exact day and question numbers but lightoller said he swam towars the crows nest which was level with the water when the bridge was submerged and he started to swim towards it but gave up as he was being sucked back towards the forward ventilation shaft. But he DID say that. I wouldnt mention it if he didnt clearly say that. He also clearly said you could clearly see the keel and at 15* you can see the keel moving the pivot point aft.
Milner62 2 years ago
No, I read over it, I got the site, and it's as ANTR the book also states. He swam back and on the way, got sucked to the first vent.
The vent is too far away from where he dived in on the bridge.
I know the rest of what your saying, but it doesn't really matter as it's already know. There is still nothing physical to it because both is suportive, while the other is real science results. The subtle difference did count.
I don't want to hear another word.
silenceofthehills 2 years ago
known not know
silenceofthehills 2 years ago
If you dont want to hear another word then why are you trying to get the last word in? To be honest I already disagree with you and said I did and I dont care if you agree with me or not. You havent showed me anything to cause me to change my opinion or my belief of what went down and how. Science to be honest isnt going to tell you what happned or how things happened. We dont know the exact damage or where it was to figure in how water would have flooded to get an accurate sinking model.
Milner62 2 years ago
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silenceofthehills 2 years ago
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Is the design vs water weight per square inch + testimony enough? You realize in order for funnel 1 to even fall, the actual mast has to be under water anywho.
You realize damage only changes changes the time. This sinking simulation only relied on how much it has to fill titanic to get to which angle matters most. People have underestimated this test.
We do know quite enough of the berg damage by sonar.
Your only going to tell me things I already knew is why no more.
silenceofthehills 2 years ago
lol you are beliing the sonar damage done in 1998 as truth? Did you know they scanned the port side hull also and found the same exact damage. They didnt release that to public but real researchers like me and others that are on the Encylopedia Titanica forums knows this. That damage is nothing more than damage caused by her collision with the ocean floor. So that has to be throw out. Now my sinking model is based off flood rate in the sense of when people stated water was where.
Milner62 2 years ago
There are reports of what compartments were damaged as well as in some cases how far past the bulkhead or how high above the stokehold plates the damage was. We also have times of when water was where at what time which gives a fairly good estimate of the flood rate up to then. problem is though you have to slow the rate of water coming in down as the water pressure inside slows the water coming in.
Milner62 2 years ago
But by time this happened the port side d-deck and E deck gangway doors were at or below the water letting more water in doubling the flood rate. Not to mention some of the portholes were left open so flooding rate would actally increase but she wouldnt sink into the water more for a while as water has to find its way down into the bottom of ship.
Milner62 2 years ago
Again, it does not matter on the damage. It never did. Just the amount of water that needs to fill titanic. This other effects the time only.
silenceofthehills 2 years ago
You just dont get it do you. The amount of damage and the location of the damage does matter. For instance compartment #1 wasnt taking on water because air was heard escaping the peak tank or as you would probably know it as the forward ballast tank. Once that flooded from the damage that was it water was trapped there. So #1 compartment stayed dry till water poured in through the anchor chain openings or open port holes.
Milner62 2 years ago
not to mention you have a long period of time where the Titanic just sits there and doesnt sink any lower into the water. So the amount of water it takes to fill her up and the time for her to sink isnt going to help. Thats like the firemens passage it was water tight itself so water flooded only the starboard side of this passage but the port side of the compartment the passage was in was dry till water rose up above the passage than moved over to port. That explains the instant list reported
Milner62 2 years ago
Ok, i'm sorry, but I just wanted to detail this, should not have said anything else.
Still, again, Gracie never stated he was at the gym. I think not even he said anything by re-reading the testimony at titanicinquary org.
Forget what I said on wanting a theory more blah blah...
silenceofthehills 2 years ago
Funny because I am not spaming the video I said what I belived YOU went out of your way to disagree with me telling me I am wrong on a opinion and a theory I have. You dont agree fine dont but dont get all ass hurt cause people disagree with you. I say you need to get off the computer and get a life cause you would know people dont always agree.
Milner62 2 years ago
Just like how stupid you are being saying that I am using science but said not to. I said science cant be used in the sinking cause we dont know the damage she had. We know she had 12 square feet estimated but we dont know exactly where it is or how much so we cant use science to predict how the ship would sink cause we dont know the damage the rate of flooding how the flooding occured not to mention no blueprints that shows all last min additions that would hamper water flow or portholes open
Milner62 2 years ago
or the gangway doors that were opened. Hell the 1998 computer simulation done didnt even figure in the increased area of water intake when the upper decks went under water.
Either way you want to belive it or not I dont care but you really need to learn that not everyone is going to agree. I done stated I dont agree with you and stated my position. You said you were done and didnt want to hear another one but your still making replys saying im wrong.
Milner62 2 years ago
That would put more water anywho. Don't even make me out to be that why...please.
Your the only one getting angry god and making stories about getting a life.
silenceofthehills 2 years ago
im not getting angry im just growing tired of how you are proclaiming others are wrong and touting science as being the answer to everything. It can answer some questions but not all.
Now on getting life though your the one arguing over me being wrong I have done stated that I dont care what you think I disagree with it but if you want to belive it go ahead thats your choice. I belive what I belive because I did the research and that is what makes sense to me.
Milner62 2 years ago
Again, it takes only 2 minutes from 12 degrees to reach 17 starting at 2:15 A.M.. This is by the official charts. If not, it would break too soon. The other claims she settles at 15 degrees and then ignores the charts.
Stress is not 10-15, it's 10-20, as 20 is barely any different. It won't snap in the blink of an eye by reaching peak stress. This is the film. At the size & what they learned in 1998 that the metal had greater strength then thought, it should take minutes to fully fail.
silenceofthehills 2 years ago
Yea and since 1998 they have found out that now theres a very high chance that atleast 75% of the rivets contains too much slag. not to mention Titanic started breaking moments after the collision. No ship breaks clean in two at one moment like you said. Now if you want to keep on talking about 10 - 20 degres and that 20 isnt much different than 10 or 15 degrees go ahead. I still dont agree and either way no two people always agree on Titanic.
Milner62 2 years ago
I mean look at the historians they claim the port side D-deck gangway door opened with the collision of the sea floor even though the E deck portside door is open as well as the D deck which fits with the order Lightoller gave. That is the problem some are making assumptions and not keeping testimony of survivors in mind. They are not all 100% correct but they were there and are describing what THEY saw and what THEY thought they saw. Its better than a computer model cause computer model.
Milner62 2 years ago
I did not mean testimony.
True about the thing on 1998, but i'm not really focussed on this at all. It's can be put as more on testimony and the time it takes to reach 17 from 12, ending at 2:17-2:18 A.M. from 2:15 A.M..
Remember Theyer states the second funnel falls, so 17 supports this being closer. He doesn't detail any else on the first funnel at all.
A woman stated the lights went as she broke & that 1 can't push him towards B but away, 17 is more correct.
silenceofthehills 2 years ago
if I recall correctly Thayer said the funnel fell off to starboard. I dont buy that because Col Archibald Gracie was under water holding onto the railing atop the Gym roof which is on the starboard side of #2 funnel. He would have been crushed by it. Thats why I dont buy the 1985/86 theory of the funnel knocking the Gym`s roof in. That would have killed Graice. So you see thats why you have to look at all evidence then find common ground cause some didnt see what they thought they did.
Milner62 2 years ago
I thought he came up to see titanic's stern going under.
If this is so, he could not be under for minutes. I heard he was also cought in waves as he just resurface. I have to check again.
Eiether way, your worry isn't that big, he could have let go earlier or later, again, he can't hold his breath for minutes upon minutes.
silenceofthehills 2 years ago
I am going by what Gracie said himself he was there and he knows about how long he was under. He was under long enough that when he came up to the surface Titanic was GONE. Thats what he said in his book he wrote before he died. So Titanic had to have sank quickly after water reached the second funnel or he was under water agood length of time.
Milner62 2 years ago
They thought the funnel 2 fell under water in 85-86. to begin with, I don't think it as so too.
Well, you forgot that Thayer never said over to starboard specifically, just near him. I see it as falling fowards more, missing by 20 ft+ while jack was 30-40ft+ away. He doesn't know himself either.
Also, again, 1 can't push him towards B, but away. Even if he get sweped under, it's resting at the shallow angle and blocks his path. I'm going on all evidence mostly to begin with.
silenceofthehills 2 years ago
well all I know is I have heard the funnel fell to starboard for years and I belive Thayer said that also but it could have fell forward as he claimed. Problem is though if it fell forward then why didnt it take he mast out. It should have slid forward and took the mast out. Since it didnt if it fell forward it had to roll off to port or starboard. Doubtful it was starboard since Gracie was still holding on.
Milner62 2 years ago
That is just like the lights theres alot of theorys as to why the went out came back on and went out again. Looking at the layout of the ship I would lean towards someting causing the main circuit to go out. Probably the main steam line ruptured. The emergency dynamo`s three decks above would have kicked on then and since she was breaking apart internally that steam line ruptured as well.
Milner62 2 years ago
Take the mast out? No 2 nvm.
silenceofthehills 2 years ago
Yea you know #2 funnel falling forwards sine #1 already fell forward and to port was gone so it would have slide forward hitting the mast or at the very least the rigging and knocked the mast forward which it didnt do. The rigging of the mast is very complicated to explain here but the funnel falling forward would have hit the rigging not to mention you got the wireless antenna wires going up from the deck house roof to the antenna between #1 and #2 funnel would have hit that also.
Milner62 2 years ago
Gracie was never near the gym......the most anyone made him out was at the Officer Quarters.
Your worry is debunked...if it fell to the side, which jack did not mention on, it would never hit him, even falling fowards with the port list.
Still, stop arguing, you flooded this video just because someone is not goin with a respected man, but science. Also, don't tell me about following science is bad, thn do it yourself. This shows a case of wanting a theory more.
silenceofthehills 2 years ago
I dont recall graice being at the inquiry but he DID say he was at the gym in his book. He said there was a huge wave coming aft on the boat deck the same time a huge gaggle of people came out of the starboard side first class boatdeck entrance and started running aft. He did the same thing and near the gym he jumped up to grab the railing where the water lifted him up to grab the railing and he held on not knowing what was going on out of shock and was submerged under water.
Milner62 2 years ago
He was and he lists being near murdochs position.
silenceofthehills 2 years ago
Murdoch was starboardside at the entrance to the first cass grand staircase or just forward of it. but just saying he was near his position doesnt mean he was standing right next to him. He was helping to load lifeboats and he was near the grand staircase when he saw a wave come up over the bridge and people come up out of the first class entrance to get washed away which is when he ran aft and jumped up and grabbed the railing atop the gym. That is connected to the first class entrance.
Milner62 2 years ago
STOP!!!
God! And no your not getting technical...are you a kid? It's no where near it.
59 of Gracies book....the officers quarter...he's not near enough to 2 but before the dome...look at a map...now stop filling these comments.
Funnel 1 hitting the mast? Too far away at any angle.
I'm not correcting your statments, nor getting filled in on what I know. Read my discription on my own vid. I'm done.
silenceofthehills 2 years ago
lol You are fucking stupid god. The officers quarters goes back to the grand staircase foreward wall thats between the #1 and #2 funnel. Not only that but even if he said that how the fuck could he see people coming out of the grand staircase and run aft towards him when the wave washed aft on the boat deck if the staircase was aft of his position?
Also youve done said twice now that your done so what is it are you done or are you going to keep arguing?
Milner62 2 years ago
But either way you are calling me a kid when I am older than you, have probably researched Titanic longer than you have also considering my research got started back in 1994. Either way you are the one that started this so how about you stop saying your done and make replys after you say that.
Milner62 2 years ago
You dont agree with me and thats fine just leave it at that because you obviously dont know SHIT about the Titanic`s layout if you said he was first near murdoch`s position then that he was near the officers quarters and that wasnt near the staircase or the gym when the officers quarters stopped AT the staircase.But he said he was NEAR the officers quarter doesn mean he was right along side them just means he was near them. later in his book he indicates aft of the staircase alongside of the gym
Milner62 2 years ago
i have the same book 15 more pages to go lol
villarock9 2 years ago
if you mean Gracies book its a good book. I am suprised he was able to compile who was in which lifeboat on the ones that he helped load.
Milner62 2 years ago
and how he got wipe of the deck and everything must have done alot of reserch to find all of the info :)
villarock9 2 years ago
Thats the part I liked cause its amazing how he got washed down but he still managed to grab ahold of the railing above the gym and hold on long enoug that by time he let go and swam to the surface he didnt see Titanic she was already gone. Things must have happened very quickly or he was under water along time. I know the break up started very early on in the sinking could have broke quickly when it came to seperating into two pieces.
Milner62 2 years ago
I meant 10 is not any different then 20 in stress.
silenceofthehills 2 years ago
I would have to disagree again cause that goes against logic and science at 10 degrees less of the hull is being supported by the weight and as the stern is lifted higher and higher out of the water by the bow stresses are increasing all the time.Thats why stoke hold plates had water coming up through them back in boiler room #2 while #3 and 4 were dry still.15 degrees the keel is completly visable and clear out of the water on the props the stern is thus supporting itself with very high stress
Milner62 2 years ago
I only meant that the charts show barely any difference in stress amount.
silenceofthehills 2 years ago
it sank so fast like any other ship titanic did not sink that fast it sank like about 1 hour and half so think before putting a video in youtube because your rating now is 4 and a half k so think about it k
josephcarlo0809 2 years ago
Lol... 1 hour and a half, did your teacher teach you this ?
iTeddyx3 2 years ago
it sank two hours thirty minutes.... I am a Titanic expert
powertower8000 2 years ago
Kinda not right to proclaim yourself as a Titanic expert especially when you got the time wrong, she sank in 2 hours and 40 minutes. 11:40pm - 2:20am. 11:40 - 12:40 = 1 hour, 12:40 - 1:40 = 2 hours, 1:40 - 2:20 - 40 minutes
Milner62 2 years ago
Wow, my head is still spinning from going a thousand miles per hour! :-)
youngeagle14 2 years ago
ok the worlds strongest ship ever splits in half the better be a good explanation for that i fell bad for ppl they were so happy they got on that boat
builderman950 2 years ago
It may sound harsh but their underestimation of the ocean actually caused this accident. They nicknamed it the unsinkable but look what happened.
Aung1988 2 years ago 3
April... Bad timing .
iTeddyx3 2 years ago
the main reason it snape was the metal was an alloy high in sulpha
blueeyesseto 2 years ago