The 1960's to me even though I wasn't born till the 70's was a great time for Liberalism. Because it was people fighting for they're freedom as well as freedom for others. And fighting against the establishment including government.
The Oswald information is really interesting. Wonder how long this information has been out there. Seems Oswald , for a poor struggling young father and idealist. was pretty active and drew the attention of many. Theres the Television and radio interviews. Seems there is also a record recording sponsored by a doctor in the south, during the time Oswald was involved with David Ferrie.
Result, a sad story of young man, and an off the shelf patsy.
This would all be hilarious if America didn't have the history it has and the Founders, particulary Anti-Federalists writers, didn't espouse what there theories and foresight were. America is not a democracy, let alone a nation of meaningful individual rights and equality, without libertarianism. I use to be a hard-line conservative Republican; not any more. Deregulation, foreign policy, and an uncaring "morality" turned me forever.
The few things that I have NOT been are a feminist and environmentalist. I think the damn tree-huggers are nuts, and I think we should only care about environmental issues as far as it relates to the health of our fellow man and not having too much pollution and whatnot. I think the green movement, though, is silly for the most part. This green jobs nonsense. It's even worse when some idiot puts the word "collar" at the end of "green", as if they're crucial to the econ.
Thats all well and good as long as you accept that right of "tree huggers" to assert the complete opposing viewpoint. For example: Some people love nature, they love hiking and taking walks in the woods. They love animals. That is what they love and that is why they value trees more than someone who does not get "turned on" by nature. You probably value cities, buildings and human progress a lot more than they would. People have different tastes and preferences. Important to understand!
The two biggest influences (as people) on my libertarianism were Barry Goldwater and Ron Paul. I'd actually known of Paul since around 2001 or 2002, long before he ran for president last year. I was ecstatic when I first heard he was gonna run for the nomination. I said "Finally!"
Of course, I've never been much of a committed partisan, so I've been just about everything there is: communist, socialist, leftist, liberal, conservative, libertarian-conservative, left-libertarian.
My long journey toward libertarianism started with a big book called "Goldwater: The Man Who Made a Revolution." It's a very interesting biography of the man, and one interesting fact I learned, in addition to Goldwater's history, was that Bill Moyers was actually an employee on the campaign of LBJ and supposedly was behind the Daisy ad. I could never see Moyers in the same light for being behind that slanderous piece of crap that screwed Goldwater royally. If only Goldwater were here today..
I'm one of the few libertarians who's NOT freaking out about Obama. And here's why: I put things in perspective. Sure, Obama has spent a lot, but Bush spent way more. Obama has done a lot of stupid anti-market things, but it's not like we're taking the path to a planned economy. We're certainly not going to fascism any time soon. I think people should just give him some slack and stop being so biased. Examine him through the lens of intellectualism, not partisanship.
I'd love to see some copies of The Innovator. I don't know about the living-in-caves stuff, but a countercultural perspective on how to get "off the grid" is something we could use more of in this increasingly controlled society.
No matter how much Rand wanted to deny her influence on libertarianism, the effort truly is futile. My road to libertarianism began with a reading of Capitalism: The Unknown Ideal. I am not alone.
gRand example of the evil of rationalization, trying to tie the libertarian movement to Objectivism, again. Rational beings ARe not fooled. What MrDoherty describes here is escapism/retreatism no trace of reason or courage. Do you see the difference between Her proposed 'Atlantis' scenARio in "Atlas"? If you do, come and judge its realization fOR yourself. -50ASJune102AR-
Libertarian hippies =)
Oyaji291 4 months ago
sounds like hillbillyism.love it
ninjafretshadow 1 year ago
The 1960's to me even though I wasn't born till the 70's was a great time for Liberalism. Because it was people fighting for they're freedom as well as freedom for others. And fighting against the establishment including government.
FRSFreeState 1 year ago
The Oswald information is really interesting. Wonder how long this information has been out there. Seems Oswald , for a poor struggling young father and idealist. was pretty active and drew the attention of many. Theres the Television and radio interviews. Seems there is also a record recording sponsored by a doctor in the south, during the time Oswald was involved with David Ferrie.
Result, a sad story of young man, and an off the shelf patsy.
NOC63 1 year ago
This would all be hilarious if America didn't have the history it has and the Founders, particulary Anti-Federalists writers, didn't espouse what there theories and foresight were. America is not a democracy, let alone a nation of meaningful individual rights and equality, without libertarianism. I use to be a hard-line conservative Republican; not any more. Deregulation, foreign policy, and an uncaring "morality" turned me forever.
PawnBACM 1 year ago
The few things that I have NOT been are a feminist and environmentalist. I think the damn tree-huggers are nuts, and I think we should only care about environmental issues as far as it relates to the health of our fellow man and not having too much pollution and whatnot. I think the green movement, though, is silly for the most part. This green jobs nonsense. It's even worse when some idiot puts the word "collar" at the end of "green", as if they're crucial to the econ.
whoo689 2 years ago
Thats all well and good as long as you accept that right of "tree huggers" to assert the complete opposing viewpoint. For example: Some people love nature, they love hiking and taking walks in the woods. They love animals. That is what they love and that is why they value trees more than someone who does not get "turned on" by nature. You probably value cities, buildings and human progress a lot more than they would. People have different tastes and preferences. Important to understand!
randikajamai 2 years ago
The two biggest influences (as people) on my libertarianism were Barry Goldwater and Ron Paul. I'd actually known of Paul since around 2001 or 2002, long before he ran for president last year. I was ecstatic when I first heard he was gonna run for the nomination. I said "Finally!"
Of course, I've never been much of a committed partisan, so I've been just about everything there is: communist, socialist, leftist, liberal, conservative, libertarian-conservative, left-libertarian.
whoo689 2 years ago
My long journey toward libertarianism started with a big book called "Goldwater: The Man Who Made a Revolution." It's a very interesting biography of the man, and one interesting fact I learned, in addition to Goldwater's history, was that Bill Moyers was actually an employee on the campaign of LBJ and supposedly was behind the Daisy ad. I could never see Moyers in the same light for being behind that slanderous piece of crap that screwed Goldwater royally. If only Goldwater were here today..
whoo689 2 years ago
I'm one of the few libertarians who's NOT freaking out about Obama. And here's why: I put things in perspective. Sure, Obama has spent a lot, but Bush spent way more. Obama has done a lot of stupid anti-market things, but it's not like we're taking the path to a planned economy. We're certainly not going to fascism any time soon. I think people should just give him some slack and stop being so biased. Examine him through the lens of intellectualism, not partisanship.
whoo689 2 years ago
I'd love to see some copies of The Innovator. I don't know about the living-in-caves stuff, but a countercultural perspective on how to get "off the grid" is something we could use more of in this increasingly controlled society.
StarchildSF 3 years ago
I've got to find me a cave!
Harpakhrad11 4 years ago
Rand had her uses. Denying the reality of something just because you don't like it has it's ties to personality disorder.
dyssolve 4 years ago
This guy keeps picking at pimples on his back.
It is pronounced Ory-gun, not Orr-gone.
Entropy56 4 years ago
No matter how much Rand wanted to deny her influence on libertarianism, the effort truly is futile. My road to libertarianism began with a reading of Capitalism: The Unknown Ideal. I am not alone.
bfb8688 4 years ago 2
Mine began with Hans-Hermann Hoppe, but was bolstered by Rand's "Virtue of Selfishness".
Elhan2005 4 years ago
I am a libertarian and I can't stand her.
Harpakhrad11 4 years ago 2
Ha, Ayn Rand was totally my first influence.
enterthepigger 3 years ago
gRand example of the evil of rationalization, trying to tie the libertarian movement to Objectivism, again. Rational beings ARe not fooled. What MrDoherty describes here is escapism/retreatism no trace of reason or courage. Do you see the difference between Her proposed 'Atlantis' scenARio in "Atlas"? If you do, come and judge its realization fOR yourself. -50ASJune102AR-
AynRandMorale 4 years ago