Chinese Concept - The train that never stops at a station - cool!

[jacovc1986]

china we love you :)

greeting from israel

[viewerdotcom]

So if the frequency method doesn't work, then my original reason stands, as being time consuming. This idea is only as good as an add-on, alleviating very small percentage of commuter.

[Youj333]

@viewerdotcom I think once you get onto the upper deck, you can go down and wait at the bottom deck. When the train arrives at station 3, you go up again to exit the train.

[viewerdotcom]

This concept means that every X amount of passenger to go for shorter distant, it require X+Y amount of passenger to go longer distant. That, I find not possible

[viewerdotcom]

But in reality, there are less people would want to go from station 1 to 10 for the longer distant, and more people would likely to transit between lower station. Hence when you buy your house, you are likely to consider recreational distant, work distant and shopping distant.

[viewerdotcom]

Ok, lets assume that, the frequency of the bottom deck are closely resemble to the ones that are like current subway system. This assumption means that there is more passenger who wants to go from station 1 to hypothetically to lets say station 10 for bottom deck.

[viewerdotcom]

I don't like this idea, its actually time consuming. For example, lets say you want to go from station one to station three, when passenger gets to station two, it leaves the upper deck in station two, then you have to wait until the next bottom deck to come and carry the upper to your next station, and how long does that take? What about to station 4 or station 5. it becomes more wait time.

[drreik]

whatttt...

they use to do this in wild west .

[whomeeeeeeee]

Is the world in that much of a hurry? Really?  If so, they should skip this and just get their electro magnetic anti gravity slipping through the old worm hole thingy working... :)

[JATO457]

@whomeeeeeeee or a portal gun :P

[595o]

@whomeeeeeeee I guess it's also about saving energy, bringing something to full-stop and starting again costs quite some energy even with electro motors.

[setchemati]

its like a chinese drop pod thing. When your stop is coming up you board the drop pod. When the train approaches the station the drop pod slows down through some wizardry and is collected above the station. The people get off and the next passengers get on. When the next train comes along it picks up the pod and keeps going. It has some serious design flaws but it could eventually work really well.

[strongestass]

@acavideo China is much less crowded than the rest of Eurasia except for Central Asia and Russia

[595o]

@strongestass I guess he was thinking of Hong-Kong, Shanghai and the overcrowded trains before Chinese new-year.

[jiastin]

this is good concept and its now only a concept,much more need to be done,such safety, peak hour,etc,but good enough though.

[sundude07]

@farhatfarhat may be.. then if the ppl who are at the start of the train want to get down.. they hav to walk all way to end to reach top car.. is it?

[sundude07]

who wil be inside the train then??

[farhatfarhat]

@sundude07 i thought of that for a sec. but obviously there would be a way to go down to the actual train from the top car, and then go up to it if u need to get off

[iitjava]

doesnt suit the chinkies who are large in population!!

[Dylpyckle13]

wow, what happenes if one of the cars fail to get on of off?

[kitwann1]

Back to the drawing board. Hopeless

[raisethealarm7]

sounds like Glados from portal

[xDarkTemplar]

Kinda reminds me of Venus Project designs.

[Tetraglot]

I dunno, I kind of like it when trains stop at stations

It gives you time to see new places

[shaddorry]

no time waste in stations, don't have to wait to long in cold, @DavidAlshNZ but indeed, what if there are lots of people that need to get on or off?

@jdunk2145 , why would it cill people? security systems nowadays are good enough.

this is a good idea, it has alot of potential and many advantages!

[Hjalten22]

this idea is so dumb

[EdwinaTS]

The more I think about it, the more I think it is practical.

Such a train would serve many minor stops on a major route.

[pappapaps]

This would only work if there were atleast 50 times more trains than today right? i mean it would fuking suck if the train had to go all the way around the whole track everytime i moved one station. So there would have to be trains all over the track with no more space between them than the time it takes to get off at a station plus safety time.. Or am i just completely high right now and not getting the picturer? isnt this a more expensive way? Im sincere here.

[Seres1091]

@pappapaps Or one could plan ahead of the time by looking at the train schedule; this is the same as riding a train, only easier as it doesn't waste time stopping at stations.

[Christobanistan]

Cool.

[TheRandomX1]

a technology like this is brilliant, those who thinks this can't work, might only be jealous. :D

[yingnam]

thats too much for my blood pressure. I dont like to rush or miss.

[ffm60313]

genius!

[chaklong]

wait what

[eamo2020]

thats a shit idea

[kang1996]

wow thats a really good idea but, wouldn't waste feul?

[ConstantineHuman]

@kang1996 It's electric, and more energy is wasted starting and slowing a vehicle than keeping it in motion.

[YERTians]

Brilliant. Makes all kinds of sense. I suspect that you'd still stop at major stations.

[DolgLanjelin]

I can imagine how the first cart fails to load onto the train, and the second cart smashes into the first.

[OTRFalcon]

@DolgLanjelin I can imagine how two trains collide, yet there are trains everywhere.

[Neanderthalcouzin]

Jaque Fresco was talking about this in the 70s.

[DolgLanjelin]

@Neanderthalcouzin

yeah, and I actually liked his idea better than this concept.

[endroo93]

Creepy chinese voice

[ZooB2468]

amazing.

[danielairy]

Seems like this is just a assignemnt of a student tho. why people are so serious about this.

[danielairy]

Idea! : add the safety doors like those in HongKong and many Chinese subway. The door will close when the the cart is not ready. pretty much like how a elevator works. :) the drawback is that it might be a bit annoying to having to broad twice? and the acelaration and decelaration will be large since its limited to the length of the main train. sit belt might be needed. :(

[DavidAlshNZ]

just ride a bullet train to work, im sure traveling at a faster speed is a cheaper alternative to saving time then this

[boon4376]

@DavidAlshNZ the point may not be time savings, but the amount of energy needed to accelerate the train every time it departs.

[cthulhu11111111]

they could do this for aircraft too

[rmsome]

The whole not enough time to board and unboard issue can be solved by two boarding carts. Simple fix and problem solved. There could be special top riding "local" carts for people with disabilities and short rides to take.

[efastMixer]

what if there's more people that want to get off but the transfer train is full? also, the if the mechanism breaks, which would sustain heavy wear and tear at this speed for attachment/reattachment, people would get hurt easily give the speed the train is travelling.

[oomblikkies]

What about people with disabilities?

[mockingbird83]

@oomblikkies china has none. they're all drowned at birth

[simonsorcerer]

@oomblikkies The only problem is the acceleartion, when the module starts to accelerate to the train speed, and starts to deccelerate to 0. This will not be any problem for them, it is the same in ordinary hi-speed train. All depends on the length of the platform, which can be high.

[rodrigocabelo]

Science Fiction. It can't be!

[madsteeez]

this is at least as much about saving energy as it is about saving time. you have to accelerate the train only for one very first time. after that the only input of energy is to compensate for friction and for the acceleration of the much lighter roof cars

[etyrnal]

dangerous

[mfh390]

Excellent idea, obviously it has some flaws, but the basic concept is great. A trip on the train would go like this:

1.Get to the station and board the waiting roof-car.

2.The train passes the station and your roof-car is picked up.

3.You get off the roof-car and sit down on the main train below.

4.Approaching your stop, you board the roof-car.

5.As the main train passes the station the car stops and you get off.

Simple and brilliant, just gotta make sure all the kinks are worked out first.

[OnceElegantlyBound]

this is actually hilarious.

[kamratframjandet]

I really, really can not see the benefits of this... You still have to sit and wait for the train to arrive/leave. What if you're about to board the train and you see that thing comming? "Oh shiiii....".

[roornc]

@kamratframjandet lol

[xRawlins]

The train won't be going full speed when it passes the station. The point is to avoid the stop - not go full speed all the time. You could easily slow the train down enough so that the acceleration of the cart isn't massive enough to give your grandmother her last ride on this "brilliant chinese train".

[badyin]

No time is wasted.

The bullet train is moving all the time.

If there are 30 stations between Beijing and Guangzhou , just stopping and accelerating again at each station will waste both energy and time.

A mere 5 mins stop per station (elderly passengers cannot be hurried) will result in a total loss of 5 min x 30 stations or 2.5 hours of train journey time!

[mortenlu]

I really think people who come up with this kind of stuff should be given a place among the gods. Amazing.

[mmlo]

O objetivo deles é matarem a população mesmo.

[MrMaffen]

the acceleration would be immense ... take a 200m train ... you wanna accelerate this on-top part (the one containing the passengers) to like 250 km/h = 70 m/s. so you have ~3 secs to do so ^^ ... i mean ... i would love that kind of adrenaline rush ... but i think my grandma would have experienced her first and last ride on such a "brilliant chinese concept" train

[mmlo]

@MrMaffen ahahaha :P

[Ezechielpitau]

@MrMaffen :

Your math fails. Why do you think you can't start to accelerate before the front part of the train arrives? The acceleration you need is only a matter of how long that acceleration lane is, not how long the train is.

Anyway, doesn't look feasible to me.

[MrMaffen]

@Ezechielpitau your logic fails. this concept was invented to increase the efficiency, to enable the main-train to not brake at all. when you suggest to accelerate the on-top part thingy you could also just use a normale standard train, like we have them today ^^ ... accelerating before the main-train arrives makes this concept completely senseless. also you would have tons of problems to sync the two parts of the train ...

[vesst]

And what happens in the tunels!!!! ;-)

[DwBChefkoch]

this video is just to show the concept to get on/off a train without the train stopping! Its brilliant!

[jonathanwhli]

It's hard to understand unless you're in china:

The train below is a Mag-Lev train only travels long distances. (Wuhan-Guangzhou Line is 968 km long) but no high speed services which travel short distances. (costly and inefficient)

Using the carriage above, it can transport people @250+ km/h without having to stop like other trains. Don't need to worry about getting off the carriage. Each one would stop at the next station, assuming you buy the right ticket/ get on the right carriage...)

[Farleyx]

ja estou vendo as materias ... passageiros caem nos trilhos durante embarque.

fiquem apenas com Maglev mesmo porque nada vai superar isso pois é o transporte do futuro.

[clayton7m]

Its a good concept but it would really complicate getting off a train. What if your distracted and miss the call to get off? Your stuck on a train that never stops.

Also it would be a time saver for long distance travel but my first reaction is that this would short distance travel much more tedious and annoying.

[renethalund]

@clayton7m What if your distracted and miss the call to get off?

Same as in a conventional train. You won't get off, and have to wait until next station.

[byungchan123]

this technique is incredibly useless !!! think about all the empty space inside the train...

[treewoolyface]

...i dont get it-i watched it at LEAST 6 times and i STILLL don't get it...how does it work? coz i see TWO trains...o.Oconfused...

[clayton7m]

@treewoolyface This is what Im precieving. There is only ONE train. That cart you see "hovers" just above the trains roof. People get on it and wait for the train to come. When the train comes, the cart seems to hook somehow onto the moving train and people get onto the real train from the cart. Simultaneously a cart that was already hooked onto the train is released so it stops at that desired stop to let people off.

[tiger55331]

OMG, GO JAPAN!!

If i can ever help achieve this in anyway, i will definitely do

[thomasli2010]

@tiger55331 This is not Japanese language, I think it's Chinese.

[tiger55331]

@thomasli2010 ah, k, well, still asians all together make awesome stuff- ty for noticing tho

[ighopper]

@thomasli2010 it's Mandarin.

[whatsgravity]

While this may shorten the time required for long-distance travels, wouldn't this grossly lengthen the time needed for short distance ones?

Unless they want to be adding multiple long-distance trains, which I think if they do, would create severe lagging on the last stations

[xpatrikh]

Great idea, I have dreamed of this while commuting. But my idea was to have a parallel track, this concept are a bit smarter.

[surfinthetao]

My grandpa came up with a parallel track design. This is good, it be neat to see this.

[klahnako]

@xpatrikh The parallel track eliminates the raised platform, puts the faster train further from the people, and removes the need for 'stairs' required in the main train.

[rezimato]

srsly awesome

[Pull0utBoy]

ching chang wong pong ding dang dong chu chaa nink dink!

[kevvvvvy9]

@Pull0utBoy and english sounds like: blugha boidhglengo isohgeondog! stupid cave man.

[Pull0utBoy]

@kevvvvvy9 lol QQ

[nurbsenvi]

Could work

but all depends on cost.

[lemonrind]

I enjoy the heavy electronic reverb.

[DavidAlshNZ]

but what if there are lots of people that need to get on or off?

[STALKER1321]

@DavidAlshNZ Then we shoot them

[AtheistTower]

@DavidAlshNZ

Make a bigger thing on top.

[lucklorena]

@DavidAlshNZ

It's all about timing. You can open a glass door in front of the train door for a safe boarding time. Also, there is space for 2 small units on the boarding platform, so if there is any problem with the boarding on the stopped one, it doesn't have to leave until the next train comes.

This would be perfect for high speed trains passing through small cities with no great movement.

[johnsoncuiChina]

@DavidAlshNZ rock paper scissors....

[brunosaboia]

@DavidAlshNZ That could be solved, for instance, by using 3 small "onboard cars" instead of one. This is more a design issue than a inherent problem in the system IMHO.

[johnadamsyt]

@DavidAlshNZ The concept runs like this: There is a main train (the large one running below) which runs from a large city to a large city or very long distances, and everyone who has caught that train is aware of that upon boarding the train, and obviously they would be going to the same destination as the train is traveling to. The smaller trains are the ones that transit people to and from shorter distances, these are the trains you would catch if you need to get on or off frequently.

[JIHADJESSE]

Im for it.

[jdunk2145]

Bloody brilliant. At least until it starts killing people.

[b8ingu]

@jdunk2145

Nonsense, superior medical concepts will account for that.

That and nanotechnology concepts to somehow strengthen humans.

And of course the concept that they may be going to a better place is comforting.

Aren't concepts great?

[pastecvms]

Natural selection ftw

[GarrettBMXes]

@pastecvms You linked me here! :D

[SlashDotDash121]

@jdunk2145 I thought the same thing... Then I thought people may have said the same thing with the invention of the car, plane, train and space travel....

[siday92]

its more for long distance multistop subway train

[kallube]

This concept will work only for stations where number of incoming and outgoing passengers are less and this concept is only feasible for long trains else passengers in the top cabin will get $%$%up due to shock they will get in the start and this concept wont work for trains going above 100mph.

[unknowndon007]

@kallube this concept is for bullet train

[kallube]

@unknowndon007 This concept won't work for bullet trains, assume a bullet train of 300 meters traveling at 300 kmph i.e 80m/s means top cabin only have <4 seconds to reach the speed of bullet train i.e, 0-300 in less than 4 seconds which is too much acceleration and definitely causes accident type injuries for passengers.

[ross350tube]

@kallube but I think the idea is they slow down around the stations a bit ..

[unknowndon007]

@kallube read its full working. train will slow down but wont stop. so that's different...

[TehNu0b]

@unknowndon007 Slowing down to only about 80 km/h and picking up a cabin would be a lot better and quicker than slowing down completely, than starting up again.

[justbram]

@kallube not really...i think the top cabin is also designed to run by itself...

[justbram]

@kallube watch?v=D07Y9JVqSX0&feature=re­lated the description explains a lot