Are you talking about NORTH Wales or SOUTH Wales? In SOUTH Wales, especially near the borders, It's all just SOUTH, SOUTH...NORTH Wales is hated. Even in documentaries about the,er,wonderful Owain Glyndwr,or whomever, it goes on about Hereford...Strange part of WALES, but at least it's not the NORTH! Same old same old...I am a strange mix of Cumbrian, Border Alba,Irish (Eire), and NORTH Welsh....don't think it's the same as the South, it's NOT! It drives me nuts Cumbric is not recognised!
@tchorveiik Actually, the story of most English people being of an Anglo Saxon majority is a myth, most are Celtic. Even if that were not true, the Celtic presence was very strong in the west country. Cornwall (Kernow), Devon, Somerset, and Dorset.
@TheMandolinMan1 hehe.,,,,,you know while ancestrl pride is nice.......I dont care about your past ancestors as much as I care about where we are going and what we feel in our hearts :)
@TheMandolinMan1 im a cumbrian too , i live near carlisle , my brother has traced my fathers fathers family back to 1300-1400 in the Eden valley (Kirby Stephen area .
Anyone knew to these old languages....only has to open their mind to the fact the ancestoral languages of english have not been spoken in Great Britain since time immemorial...amd then the learning can begin...this even applies to welsh speakers as there are older languages mostly lost :(
you can't reconstruct something that was never written down, died out 1000 years ago, and only exists in a few faintly remembered numbers. Look at the trouble they are having with Cornish, and that has a library to back it up! Even if you make it up from neo-Brittonic, what you get would probably be nothing like the actual spoken Cumbric, just similar.
If Cumbria hadn't been Anglicised, the language would have developed in much the same way Welsh has. So why not just speak Welsh?
A wonderful language, and i just learned that "Welsh" meant "stranger' in Anglo-Saxon, as the aristocratic Britons fled the advancing Saxons, and settled in the NorthWest, where they spoke the original British language, the one first heard by the Romans...when i was in high school my friend Randy taught me to say 'The soul speaks for itself" in Welsh, and i heard how beautiful the language is. May it rise and never fade away!
ah sssugar i hate to see Celtic languages die away but i LOVE to see them rise again. Hopefully countries that have lost their Celtic language alot for example; Bretor (in france), Cornish, Gaelic, Irish Gaelic (and so on), will once again rise up with more speakers in comparison with Wales and have many to speak it.
Please view my celtic channel for traditional,modern music ALL in the celtic languages, dance,culture,history and much more from all the celtic cousins :)
Would you not find it more rewarding learning a living language such as Irish?! The Irish language is growing both sides of the border and there are countless ways to practise it!
Irish (Gaelic) is of course a great language, however the significance of Cwmbraic to those in The Old North is that many people are discovering that if they scrape off the English and Gaelic vaneers of their upbringing, they are left with Cwmbraic! Although learning Gaelic is great, it is technically a Q-Celtic language yet P-Celtic (forms of Welsh) was originally spoken in Great Britain, not Q-Celtic. For everyone who learns Cwmbraic in The Old North, the Scottish/English border dissapears!
Not if you arent irish, the same way i learn Ullans because it feels more....right? to me you know what i mean, if your irish you will know how it feels to speak irish the same way i feel when i speak ullans, i hope one day Irish is spoken day to day and so is ullans, i would love to see roadsigns in both in N.Ireland, maybe if we get Independence that will happen.
@ConCon75 Ullans isnt even a language its dialect of english. Noone speaks it fluently because there is no way of fluency its too varied in broadness and wordage. An englishwoman could go to an ulster scots bit of land and learn it in a week.
@Pawnbroker00 No its a dialect of scots which in turn is a dialect of old English. Pure Ullans is not easy to understand and it is spoken fluently in Country Antrim there are some schools that teach Ullans and there is a school outside randalstown that is an Ullans school much like a gaeltacht school.
@ConCon75 True.. but here in scotland, lowland scots isnt spoken fluently. Schools obviously refuse to teach it because of it's lack of scottishness or britishness. Lowland scots/english is mostly viewed as a peasant language, since gaelic has a scottish cultural significance while scots is born of english, which is obviously not a culture most scottish people want to be associated with.
@Pawnbroker00 Thats the difference between our nations in Ulster we take it much more seriously. Try to disparage it all you want it just makes you look like the english.
@ConCon75 Mm whatever i know lowland scottish anyway. Unless you talk to an old farmer you honestly wont hear it in raw form, most of the people today are mixed SP and local dialect, plus various foreigners and broad accents.
Thanks for posting the video! The fact that languages die out has always made me sad, but hopefully there are more people like you out there who are trying to keep them from being forgotten.
What is the Cumbric word for Lancashire? (it was spoken down here too, as far south as Manchester). I've been following the Cumbric revival for a while now, it's starting to take shape, thank you for helping this along.
There is a website for the Cumbric revival around now, but I can't post a link because YouTube won't allow it. Where are you getting your Cumbric words from? Also, I think the word for Manchester is Mancein ;)
No- I'm American. I'm Welsh on my father's side. He doesn't really have any information for me as far as where my Welsh ancestors came from- which sucks. It's really my curiosity that sparks my interest in Wales. :)
I'm going to try and see if I can get a book/program (besides your vids, of course :) ) and learn the basics of the language. I would LOVE to go to Cymru someday. I've seen pictures and I have a friend from England who used to go there for a week every summer; he said it's one of the most beautiful places he's ever seen and of course, the people are pretty cool too. :)
Are you talking about NORTH Wales or SOUTH Wales? In SOUTH Wales, especially near the borders, It's all just SOUTH, SOUTH...NORTH Wales is hated. Even in documentaries about the,er,wonderful Owain Glyndwr,or whomever, it goes on about Hereford...Strange part of WALES, but at least it's not the NORTH! Same old same old...I am a strange mix of Cumbrian, Border Alba,Irish (Eire), and NORTH Welsh....don't think it's the same as the South, it's NOT! It drives me nuts Cumbric is not recognised!
PennyTraition 2 months ago
Diolch yn fawr for this,may Cumbric revive the soonest !!!
Gwynsek 3 months ago
What ever the case cumbria is still as English as someone from Eseex
xpolishman 3 months ago
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MacDonaldSeumas 3 months ago
Celts + norsemen = me
No stupid Saxons that's for the south
tchorveiik 8 months ago
@tchorveiik Actually, the story of most English people being of an Anglo Saxon majority is a myth, most are Celtic. Even if that were not true, the Celtic presence was very strong in the west country. Cornwall (Kernow), Devon, Somerset, and Dorset.
DefeatedElitist 4 months ago
Sadly, Cumbric is merely a slight variant of Old Welsh (hencimraic). If Cumbric is to be revived, learn some Old Welsh.
If we're reviving Cumbric, shouldn't we be reviving Old Devonian (Dewnansek Koth) too?
stecymru14 1 year ago
I'm from Cumbria, i consider myself Cumbrian, not English!
My ancestry is Irish, Scottish, Bretagne and Cumbric :) I don't have a drop of Saxon blood in my veins, it's all Celtic!
TheMandolinMan1 1 year ago 2
@TheMandolinMan1 hehe.,,,,,you know while ancestrl pride is nice.......I dont care about your past ancestors as much as I care about where we are going and what we feel in our hearts :)
3tangle3 1 year ago
@TheMandolinMan1 im a cumbrian too , i live near carlisle , my brother has traced my fathers fathers family back to 1300-1400 in the Eden valley (Kirby Stephen area .
wichywoo 7 months ago
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Anyone knew to these old languages....only has to open their mind to the fact the ancestoral languages of english have not been spoken in Great Britain since time immemorial...amd then the learning can begin...this even applies to welsh speakers as there are older languages mostly lost :(
3tangle3 1 year ago
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3tangle3 1 year ago
Pen-y-Ghent in Yorkshire must be Cumbric, yet my comment was removed. Do you feel uncomfortable with that for some reason ?
ALBIONTYKE 1 year ago
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ALBIONTYKE 1 year ago
you can't reconstruct something that was never written down, died out 1000 years ago, and only exists in a few faintly remembered numbers. Look at the trouble they are having with Cornish, and that has a library to back it up! Even if you make it up from neo-Brittonic, what you get would probably be nothing like the actual spoken Cumbric, just similar.
If Cumbria hadn't been Anglicised, the language would have developed in much the same way Welsh has. So why not just speak Welsh?
iggy23 2 years ago 2
A wonderful language, and i just learned that "Welsh" meant "stranger' in Anglo-Saxon, as the aristocratic Britons fled the advancing Saxons, and settled in the NorthWest, where they spoke the original British language, the one first heard by the Romans...when i was in high school my friend Randy taught me to say 'The soul speaks for itself" in Welsh, and i heard how beautiful the language is. May it rise and never fade away!
nicodagger 2 years ago
Pyth yw an yeth Gumbrek? My a-vynn woes moy....
malx1975 3 years ago
im planning on writing a phrewook, but i'm still having trouble with deciding the spelling, but i think im well on way now...
AskSOmeoneelse 3 years ago
ah sssugar i hate to see Celtic languages die away but i LOVE to see them rise again. Hopefully countries that have lost their Celtic language alot for example; Bretor (in france), Cornish, Gaelic, Irish Gaelic (and so on), will once again rise up with more speakers in comparison with Wales and have many to speak it.
DOO1 3 years ago
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Please view my celtic channel for traditional,modern music ALL in the celtic languages, dance,culture,history and much more from all the celtic cousins :)
cosinbrother 3 years ago
as you see, cumbric is on the verge of living... tis just that it isn't official!
AskSOmeoneelse 3 years ago 2
Just start spraying some road signs like us Taffy did ( LOL )
mush1955 3 years ago 2
Oh this is SUCH a fabulous idea! :))
cumbricrevival 3 years ago
Mí medhil díma pwisic, obligidt mí en angen yr yath-hon bodt lúidh!
Chwi en hofi my gwmbraíc?
AskSOmeoneelse 3 years ago
mae'r iaith yn bwisig... er rydyn ni'n angen yr iaith hon i bod?
Dwi'n cari'r tafodiaithau wahanol ac yna trio ddeall nhw. Da iawn ac dysgu mwy!
DOO1 3 years ago
Would you not find it more rewarding learning a living language such as Irish?! The Irish language is growing both sides of the border and there are countless ways to practise it!
RosserD18 3 years ago
That's all very well and good but we must do what we can to save dying cultures.
SolAurum 3 years ago
Irish (Gaelic) is of course a great language, however the significance of Cwmbraic to those in The Old North is that many people are discovering that if they scrape off the English and Gaelic vaneers of their upbringing, they are left with Cwmbraic! Although learning Gaelic is great, it is technically a Q-Celtic language yet P-Celtic (forms of Welsh) was originally spoken in Great Britain, not Q-Celtic. For everyone who learns Cwmbraic in The Old North, the Scottish/English border dissapears!
Cwmbraic 3 years ago
Not if you arent irish, the same way i learn Ullans because it feels more....right? to me you know what i mean, if your irish you will know how it feels to speak irish the same way i feel when i speak ullans, i hope one day Irish is spoken day to day and so is ullans, i would love to see roadsigns in both in N.Ireland, maybe if we get Independence that will happen.
ConCon75 2 years ago
Do people actually speak ulster scots..:S
RosserD18 2 years ago
There are estimated to be about 30,000 speakers of ulster scots 5,000 of them as a mother tounge.
Thats a really conservative estimate, i dont beleive the others. and people dont speak Cumbric very much but you watched a video on it.
If you would like to learn more search Ullans on google.
ConCon75 2 years ago
@ConCon75 Ullans isnt even a language its dialect of english. Noone speaks it fluently because there is no way of fluency its too varied in broadness and wordage. An englishwoman could go to an ulster scots bit of land and learn it in a week.
Pawnbroker00 1 year ago
@Pawnbroker00 No its a dialect of scots which in turn is a dialect of old English. Pure Ullans is not easy to understand and it is spoken fluently in Country Antrim there are some schools that teach Ullans and there is a school outside randalstown that is an Ullans school much like a gaeltacht school.
ConCon75 1 year ago
@ConCon75 True.. but here in scotland, lowland scots isnt spoken fluently. Schools obviously refuse to teach it because of it's lack of scottishness or britishness. Lowland scots/english is mostly viewed as a peasant language, since gaelic has a scottish cultural significance while scots is born of english, which is obviously not a culture most scottish people want to be associated with.
Pawnbroker00 1 year ago
@Pawnbroker00 Thats the difference between our nations in Ulster we take it much more seriously. Try to disparage it all you want it just makes you look like the english.
ConCon75 1 year ago
@ConCon75 Mm whatever i know lowland scottish anyway. Unless you talk to an old farmer you honestly wont hear it in raw form, most of the people today are mixed SP and local dialect, plus various foreigners and broad accents.
Pawnbroker00 1 year ago
@Pawnbroker00 Yea that may well be in Alba but in Ulster Ullans is thriving on the east coast of Antrim.
ConCon75 1 year ago
Very interested in learning this language
y0utube1973 4 years ago
Thank you for trying to save this language!
irishoforiel 4 years ago
1 thing, when a welsh word ends in "D" it's believed to mutate to "th" in Cumbric - thus "Gwlad" = "Gwlath" "wlad" = "wlath" "coed" = "caith"
Maenofferen 4 years ago
Thanks for posting the video! The fact that languages die out has always made me sad, but hopefully there are more people like you out there who are trying to keep them from being forgotten.
Also, the opening was really funny. :)
notthatbasic 4 years ago
ye, ive seen that one. It's really good. Thanks
stecymru14 4 years ago
What is the Cumbric word for Lancashire? (it was spoken down here too, as far south as Manchester). I've been following the Cumbric revival for a while now, it's starting to take shape, thank you for helping this along.
mdb1363 4 years ago
Sadly I have no idea but I can guess the word for Manchestr will be very similar to the Welsh word for it - MANCEINION.
It's amazing it's taking shape. Great to help it along too - even if it is only a few videos....
Diolch - Thank you
stecymru14 4 years ago
There is a website for the Cumbric revival around now, but I can't post a link because YouTube won't allow it. Where are you getting your Cumbric words from? Also, I think the word for Manchester is Mancein ;)
mdb1363 4 years ago
Mancein would make sense as it is very similar to Welsh (Manceinion). How did you find that out yourself then?
I found these words on a website. I've seen quite a few. Write the URL with spaces in between or something....
stecymru14 4 years ago
it's cumbricrevival/wordpress/com, obviously, you need to replace the slashes with dots.
mdb1363 4 years ago
@mdb1363 lancashire in welsh is Caerhirfryn......(roman) fort of the (with a) long hill...........probs relates to pennine range
3tangle3 1 year ago
Awesome- I'm trying to understand a few words. :)
juliatheepic 4 years ago
Well done you! I think it can be easy to get 'dragged in' by these languages.... even if it's just to learn a few words and phrases.
Thanks for your message.
Are from Cwmbru by the way?
stecymru14 4 years ago
No- I'm American. I'm Welsh on my father's side. He doesn't really have any information for me as far as where my Welsh ancestors came from- which sucks. It's really my curiosity that sparks my interest in Wales. :)
juliatheepic 4 years ago
Curiosity is a good thing, especially when thething you're interested in needs help anyway :P haha!
No I'm kidding.
It's great to hear of someone interestd in their past. I think you'd quite enjoy our language. Something for you to look into perhaps?
Have you ever been to Cymru then?
stecymru14 4 years ago
I'm going to try and see if I can get a book/program (besides your vids, of course :) ) and learn the basics of the language. I would LOVE to go to Cymru someday. I've seen pictures and I have a friend from England who used to go there for a week every summer; he said it's one of the most beautiful places he's ever seen and of course, the people are pretty cool too. :)
Yeah- I wanna go!
juliatheepic 4 years ago
few spelling mistakes, i knowbut it's the cwmbraic that matters here
stecymru14 4 years ago