Ammo Test 9mm Luger - 147 Gr Black Talon

[Paranoidhippy]

They are expensive but such a kickass round. Usually goes for $55 $60 bucks. Their my main home defense round for my RIA .45 1911.

[KeithWasHere1]

is the white and blue Rhino ammo still available? heard they were more vicious than the BT!

[Paranoidhippy]

Gotta love the black talons, simply the god of all hollow points.

[kevduvrob]

NOT THE KOOL-AID NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

[70scarrestoguy]

I've had good luck with Winchester silver tips & +p HST's. Haven't seen Black Talons for several years.

[REMY45HST]

SPEER GOLD DOTS ARE A VERY GOOD RELIABLE HP

[iluvmym4]

Cool vid! What is all the BS I hear it's the so called cop killer round? Heard claims that it's coated with Teflon?

[bf2lover42]

@iluvmym4 The Lubalox coating is supposed to lubricate the barrel/jacket contact points and protect the firearm's rifling, not make it "slip trough" vests.

watch?v=sWNhdw5sowE << video proving that a vest can stop it

The black colour is basically the jacket's surface after an oxidation treatment.

[armenianesh818]

Before it's ban, did law enforcement use this cartridge, or was it primarily used by civilians?

[tubevideoguy762]

@armenianesh818 it was never banned winchester decided to stop production

[thunderroad2011]

wow those look like they would fuckin hurt lol

[MrSpiker357]

Black Talons are great and still in use by Canada's RCMP. The slow-motion stuff is lame.

[macjmillsx]

Does this ammo still stand alone or do you think there are current SD loads available that are equivalent or better?

[andreleger2001]

@macjmillsx I think there are current rounds that are equivalent or better. Specifically, Federal HST and or the current form of Black Talon, Winchester's Ranger-T Series. Black Talons are decent ammo, but dated. Do not carry 20 year old ammo. Black Talons are great for collecting but carry something more modern.

[nburgwin]

where are these still available, beside alamo ammo

[andreleger2001]

@nburgwin You might find them at gunbroker. Other than that private sales would likely be the only way since it has not been made in many years.

[theinfedel]

why the stupid slow motion?

[andreleger2001]

@theinfedel Some people like the stupid slow motion... Skip past it if you do not like it. I have made an effort to reduce the amount of time the slow motion plays.

[47Akguy]

@andreleger2001 I bet those rounds were hard to get and expensive nice vid

[cartman934life]

What was that sound at 1:29?

[andreleger2001]

@cartman934life Lol, I think it's a scary sounding rooster from one of the neighbor's yards far off in the distance. At least that is my best guess. I never noticed it till you pointed it out.

[icekillertony]

too bad they took these of the market

[icekillertony]

it sucks that black talons were outlawed

[TexasWatch223]

@icekillertony They were never outlawed. Winchester bowed to public pressure when the media jumped on a tragic shooting and basically demonized the ammo as too deadly (all of those sharp little blades and all). in response, Winchester adopted a policy to sell only to LE or military. Winchester and Federal both still employ this policy for their best performing self defense rounds, but its a company policy not a law. They are perfectly legal to buy, own,  and use.

[deltaomegaable]

@TexasWatch223 isint that the point? to have it perform well (as in being deadly) looks like it did its job too good. i remember flipping through guns and ammo when i was a kid and seen the advertisements for the black talons. truely one of the best JHP's ever made as far as core/jacket seperation is concerned (or lack there of) all the BS about the BT's being cop killers and armor penetrating is just that. bullshit made up by lib. extremist.

[ACE1985XX]

Thanks for the awesome vids buddy

[andreleger2001]

@ACE1985XX No problem. We sure had fun making them. I know they are not exactly scientific but they at least give you some idea of how it will preform.

[quintili1]

Nice round, but Ranger T's are just as good.

[camerl2009]

dont waste them black talons :(

[Garuda1337]

@camerl2009 I know right? You should use those to shoot unicorns with.

[andreleger2001]

@Garuda1337 These were given to me for testing... I don't know that I would have shot them if they were mine. Unicorns seem fitting.

[krazy45cat]

I carry them in my gun every day !!!!