@AsteroidB312 There are excerpts of the dialogue all throughout the Girl On Fire book. If you go on either IMDb or Wikipedia, I posted a number of them in the Quotes sections.
@AsteroidB312 Hi, I didn't actually cite Inner And Outer Space as a source on either Wiki or IMDb because those cites don't accept quotes from films (even if the 'films' are basically footage). Off the top of my head I remember that the quotes where Edie talks about her life in a sort of abstract way are mainly from Inner/Outer Space.
I don't see why Zen deserves the thumbs down. Everyone has their own mind.
Which brings me to another note: the prudish approach that some take when someone ridicules or leaves criticism about great films/artists such as this one. No one is allowed to criticize it, and anyone who dislikes it "doesn't have an open mind." Maybe it's because of the internet, or some of the young Warhol/ Sedgwick fans, or maybe not. Whatever the case may be, it's only entertainment and art that is opinionated.
Zen, whoa there fella, your like a speeding horse flailing to buck off a cliff, You are just another judegmental man. Why don't you jand your public personality that I have access to, just jump.
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Smoking-gun evidence that Warhol meant to kill. Summer 1966: Warhol's response to Edie's crack-up was to hire Boston rich girl Susan Bottomly, age 16, 3 times expelled from school. She lived at the Chelsea Hotel, was drunk while acting in her first Warhol movie. Note: playwright/author Robert Heide, source of the suicide quote, wrote the script for suicide movie "Lupe," which Warhol made, starring Edie (from the book Edie Factory Girl).
Again, I apologize. I assumed that when Warhol said he wanted to see Johnny Dodd and Edie Sedgwick commit suicide, he was joking. Why did I jump to that conclusion?
Forgive me if this is in poor taste. There's something called the Warhol Foundation. It sells products. There's an Edie T shirt with a picture of the actress. It's stamped with the word FRAGILE over and over. Touching. Forget my remark about Warhol's sick humor. If my being an asshole nearly got somebody killed, I sure as hell wouldn't joke about it ... "I WISH EDIE WOULD TELL US WHEN SHE'S GOING TO COMMIT SUICIDE. WE COULD FILM IT."
This film was made by Warhol trading Joe Simon's myandywarhol painting for the loan of the video equipment used to make this. Warhol was a pioneer, one of the worlds first video artists. So, with the warhol authentication board denying the validity of the paintings, but counting the receipts of the monies made from the films etc they are still exploiting people.
Gerard said that Paul Morrissey heard about her death and said "Edie who? I don't care what she ever did to him - kicked him in the balls or what. I'm willing to overlook Warhol's sick humor, but there's no excuse for the Morrissey crack. I would never trust him.
I'm not saying that Chuck or Andy were model citizens, but it would have been better for her if she had taken responsibility for becoming an addict instead of blaming others. That's an important part of recovery. Did anybody make her take the drugs? It's true that not lashing out the way she did would have been difficult for her, having been through such a terrible experience. Her suffering must have been unbelievable.
Yeah, that was also at the end of Factory Girl. It was so sad when I saw that. When the interviewer asked Andy what he thought about Edie's death, and Andy was all, "Oh, Edie. I barely knew her." And then it plays the long conversasion that they had over the phone. And also, I must say that Sienna Miller played an outstanding Edie.
The question of whether she was mistreated while she worked for Warhol is beside the point. The whole idea of taking this seriously disturbed adolescent and letting her play with the drug addicts at his studio was ludicrous. In the end, did anybody respect Warhol? Lou Reed said he didn't fault him for the drug thing and that in some ways he could be likable, but he also said the way he spread filthy gossip was disgusting. You wouldn't say that he put a premium on loyalty.
Exploited? Hard to say. When all else failed, she became a prostitute for drugs. Intervention doesn't always work. Also, pushing her could have triggered a suicide. Andy didn't have a magic wand. Maybe all they could do was entertain her and hope she would get help. I didn't know these people.
Chuck Wein definitely used her to get in w/ the Factory crowd.
But hey, I think Warhol exploited everyone. A lot of his art is about jacking images, jacking cache, jacking personalities & the downside is the number of casualties along the way. Instead of giving her a couple bucks and pills when she came round the Factory, he could have gotten her into recovery (her family did later).
More importantly though, Edie felt she'd been exploited. Check the background on The Andy Warhol Story.
Theres this cartoon where an ant that looks like Andy is carrying some film cannisters down an ant hole when the films play the other ants are complaining and say, "It`s out of focus!" "It`s out of sync!" "Frame it!" Then one of the other ants yells, "It`s Anty Warhol!"
I get very spooked out watching Edie because it's clear she's not 'all there'. I know she was a major drug fiend but, even aside from that, she seems very troubled.
Given all her psychiatric problems, she was shamelessly exploited and then discarded. 'Ciao! Manhattan' (David Palmer film) is even more horrifying.
Thanks a lot. This is a real gem.
Heimdallp 8 months ago
Adorable, adorable girl!
MowgliX 11 months ago
i can't really hear what she is saying. do you know any links that have the dialogue written out? or can you tell me by any chance? i am very curious
AsteroidB312 1 year ago
@AsteroidB312 There are excerpts of the dialogue all throughout the Girl On Fire book. If you go on either IMDb or Wikipedia, I posted a number of them in the Quotes sections.
xXPinkGoddessXx 1 year ago
@xXPinkGoddessXx i dont see this on either website
AsteroidB312 1 year ago
@AsteroidB312 Hi, I didn't actually cite Inner And Outer Space as a source on either Wiki or IMDb because those cites don't accept quotes from films (even if the 'films' are basically footage). Off the top of my head I remember that the quotes where Edie talks about her life in a sort of abstract way are mainly from Inner/Outer Space.
xXPinkGoddessXx 1 year ago
I don't see why Zen deserves the thumbs down. Everyone has their own mind.
Which brings me to another note: the prudish approach that some take when someone ridicules or leaves criticism about great films/artists such as this one. No one is allowed to criticize it, and anyone who dislikes it "doesn't have an open mind." Maybe it's because of the internet, or some of the young Warhol/ Sedgwick fans, or maybe not. Whatever the case may be, it's only entertainment and art that is opinionated.
artstar19 2 years ago
God i love her. she is truly a poets lady. Nostagia is a beautiful thing
TheHollimon23 2 years ago 4
@TheHollimon23 Nostagia is beautiful, and necessary in order to understand what's really going on right now, in the present.
MowgliX 11 months ago
Zen, whoa there fella, your like a speeding horse flailing to buck off a cliff, You are just another judegmental man. Why don't you jand your public personality that I have access to, just jump.
ArtAristocracy 2 years ago 10
Ahh, I could watch that face all day. Her expressions are priceless and somehow make her more likeable. :)
SteffiCalifornia 3 years ago 3
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Smoking-gun evidence that Warhol meant to kill. Summer 1966: Warhol's response to Edie's crack-up was to hire Boston rich girl Susan Bottomly, age 16, 3 times expelled from school. She lived at the Chelsea Hotel, was drunk while acting in her first Warhol movie. Note: playwright/author Robert Heide, source of the suicide quote, wrote the script for suicide movie "Lupe," which Warhol made, starring Edie (from the book Edie Factory Girl).
ZenPapageno 3 years ago
Again, I apologize. I assumed that when Warhol said he wanted to see Johnny Dodd and Edie Sedgwick commit suicide, he was joking. Why did I jump to that conclusion?
ZenPapageno 3 years ago
Forgive me if this is in poor taste. There's something called the Warhol Foundation. It sells products. There's an Edie T shirt with a picture of the actress. It's stamped with the word FRAGILE over and over. Touching. Forget my remark about Warhol's sick humor. If my being an asshole nearly got somebody killed, I sure as hell wouldn't joke about it ... "I WISH EDIE WOULD TELL US WHEN SHE'S GOING TO COMMIT SUICIDE. WE COULD FILM IT."
ZenPapageno 3 years ago
This film was made by Warhol trading Joe Simon's myandywarhol painting for the loan of the video equipment used to make this. Warhol was a pioneer, one of the worlds first video artists. So, with the warhol authentication board denying the validity of the paintings, but counting the receipts of the monies made from the films etc they are still exploiting people.
heart106 3 years ago
That last comment was to ZenPapageno.
MacAndre86 3 years ago
Lets get high
waynealarsen 3 years ago
Gerard said that Paul Morrissey heard about her death and said "Edie who? I don't care what she ever did to him - kicked him in the balls or what. I'm willing to overlook Warhol's sick humor, but there's no excuse for the Morrissey crack. I would never trust him.
ZenPapageno 3 years ago
Morrissey felt she'd screwed Andy over by leaving the Factory after they'd made her a star.
Not justifying, just saying that's where it came from (probably).
xxxafterglow 3 years ago
I'm not saying that Chuck or Andy were model citizens, but it would have been better for her if she had taken responsibility for becoming an addict instead of blaming others. That's an important part of recovery. Did anybody make her take the drugs? It's true that not lashing out the way she did would have been difficult for her, having been through such a terrible experience. Her suffering must have been unbelievable.
ZenPapageno 3 years ago
Yeah, that was also at the end of Factory Girl. It was so sad when I saw that. When the interviewer asked Andy what he thought about Edie's death, and Andy was all, "Oh, Edie. I barely knew her." And then it plays the long conversasion that they had over the phone. And also, I must say that Sienna Miller played an outstanding Edie.
MacAndre86 3 years ago
The question of whether she was mistreated while she worked for Warhol is beside the point. The whole idea of taking this seriously disturbed adolescent and letting her play with the drug addicts at his studio was ludicrous. In the end, did anybody respect Warhol? Lou Reed said he didn't fault him for the drug thing and that in some ways he could be likable, but he also said the way he spread filthy gossip was disgusting. You wouldn't say that he put a premium on loyalty.
ZenPapageno 3 years ago
Exploited? Hard to say. When all else failed, she became a prostitute for drugs. Intervention doesn't always work. Also, pushing her could have triggered a suicide. Andy didn't have a magic wand. Maybe all they could do was entertain her and hope she would get help. I didn't know these people.
ZenPapageno 3 years ago
Chuck Wein definitely used her to get in w/ the Factory crowd.
But hey, I think Warhol exploited everyone. A lot of his art is about jacking images, jacking cache, jacking personalities & the downside is the number of casualties along the way. Instead of giving her a couple bucks and pills when she came round the Factory, he could have gotten her into recovery (her family did later).
More importantly though, Edie felt she'd been exploited. Check the background on The Andy Warhol Story.
xxxafterglow 3 years ago
you have amazing vids. THANKS
angelinakitty 3 years ago
Theres this cartoon where an ant that looks like Andy is carrying some film cannisters down an ant hole when the films play the other ants are complaining and say, "It`s out of focus!" "It`s out of sync!" "Frame it!" Then one of the other ants yells, "It`s Anty Warhol!"
jack2breeze 3 years ago
I get very spooked out watching Edie because it's clear she's not 'all there'. I know she was a major drug fiend but, even aside from that, she seems very troubled.
Given all her psychiatric problems, she was shamelessly exploited and then discarded. 'Ciao! Manhattan' (David Palmer film) is even more horrifying.
Dingalingring 3 years ago 3
Is she that fucked up in this video?
kuhlela 4 years ago
I prefer Andy Warhol's art to his films
psychokitty93 4 years ago
thannn ks
movie109 4 years ago 2
wow thanx for uploading .. i enjoy watching your vids you have great stuff up !:D
theraytex 4 years ago 2
welllll you're very welcome! thanx for the comments, homie :)
desertshore 4 years ago
@desertshore I second what theraytex said! GREAT stuff!
MowgliX 11 months ago
what is the adress of the vids..
cagatayantalya 3 years ago
edie sedgwick, she wasn't an actress she was being herself
justinesignofthetime 3 years ago 8
WOW!! Thank you for this beauty!
littleloca 4 years ago 2
takes one to know one *.*
desertshore 4 years ago
great footage this is extremely rare thnx for uploading!
capicorn14 4 years ago 2
maybe i'll put up part 2 lol.
desertshore 4 years ago