League of Legends - S2 Jungle Fiddlesticks

[Disterric23]

I'm guessing fiddle is more viable as a laner now? i haven't seen any fiddles jungling lately

[TheSaoul]

@Disterric23 He's not awful solo lane these days. But jungling with him really isn't the thing to do anymore.

[erazlle]

dat music

[FoxPMcCloud]

Wouldn't going 21-9-0 make it faster/better? Bladed would seem to do more for clear time than a mere 6 extra MS (though I realize there would be other reasons for taking the MS buff).

[le3gh0ofd]

is fiddle still reliable in high elo games?

[Petrovjan]

FIddle's first 4 levels are fine...but once my blue ends, jungling becomes real pain...also jungling with fiddle means almost always lvl1 invade and once you can't take the first blue you're out of the game...

[AeQuitaS28]

I still prefer getting mana pot instead of hp pot.

Then smite big wraiths, 2 drain kill big golem while auto attackin little one, then finish little wriaths, wolves, then do blue with mana pot, then wraiths, red and double.

Gets you to 5 fast for quick dragon/ganks, lets you keep blue for more crucial levels and less susceptible to early counter-jungle.

[AeQuitaS28]

That is easily the top 3 worst skin ever...

[Sonoftutuchoppy]

@AeQuitaS28 .......Youre trolling right? Please tell me youre trolling. 

[AeQuitaS28]

@Sonoftutuchoppy Fine...

Top 1 worst skins ever...?

[Sonoftutuchoppy]

@AeQuitaS28 TROLL SAPPIN MAH PATIENCE

[AeQuitaS28]

@Sonoftutuchoppy Maybe The #1 Most Annoying Skin is more accurate...

[TherealChoGath]

After testing it today, i must admit, jungling karthus feels 100% more powerful than jungling fiddlesticks. Karthus scales better to lategame, he does not necessarily have to use ulti for gank and his clear speed is also better. And IMO karthus also deals more dps overall, he might even die and deal dps LoL.

[TheJelloPuddin]

This song.... This song makes me so happy! Liked for song choice.

[JackaCoopeur]

@stonewall008 Do you think Amplifying Tome is a better item starting item for Fiddle? I'd think that the manaregen and health from Dorans Ring is extremely useful if you get counterjungled. Plus you don't die as quickly while ganking. Your thoughts?

[IvDiv]

nvm my brain died for a second

[IvDiv]

im not 100% sure but i think its faster with dorans

[stonewall008]

@IvDiv why would it be faster with doran's if he gets less AP from it?

[Dorfmaist]

haha nice music:P

[Thorntreed41]

I start with dorans. Is that ok

[RtasVadumeeKostas]

this vid together with ryze janna and fizz didnt appear in my subbox :/

[chickenrice89]

can they remake they useless fiddle passive..sheesh///

[frostixp]

308 people saw the video, and 369 people liked it...WTF?! xD

[RaihaanHiMsElF]

352 likes at 308 views WTF?

[jly911]

Whats a potion

[monkehm]

Thanks you jerk, this fucking song will be stuck in my head for days. DAYS.

[Fanat1k92]

music is awesome brah

[Tehadamlulz]

: D: D: D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D THIS MUSIC.

[hekkslayer]

team battle fiddle please :D

[UsaraDark]

lol choice everything

[Tekami]

this music

[CidGuerreiro1234]

dat soundtrack

[Dizturb3dWun]

so depressing :( Mundo is a better jungler then fiddle....

[audioish]

I swear this sounds like it was from a Sonic level. anyone else think so?

[Shinas1996]

didnt fiddle use to have his drain on at like almost every second? now it seems like he has a 3 to 4 second delay because of cooldown

[Dizturb3dWun]

@Shinas1996 cooldown has only been upped by 1second, so no, he didnt used to have it all the way up. He used to be much MUCH faster, in comparison to other junglers, than he is now though

[batistuta002]

lol the music :D

[Sethagrius]

60 ap at level 2. what runepage?

[murilosurf11]

@Sethagrius read below the video

[Bloodywolfbe]

Now mather how much worse he is in the new jungle, he's still my most favorite champ. I wish they could somehow fix that :-( Maybe like elementz suggested once and give dark wind a extra damage procc vs minions like Yi alpha strike.

[Andrew83194]

God 4 min clear they really fucked fid over with the new jungle. I haven't even bothered with him since the new jungle came this just says why. Riot seriously needs to make a viable AP jungler...

[stonewall008]

@Andrew83194 that's not the worst part - he slows down as the game goes on. He gained the shaco weakness - gank or crumble.

[Meanderthal17]

@stonewall008 Yeah I played a fid jungle yesterday. I don't even know how to gank before 6.

[bluey1695]

@stonewall008 bad in jungle, gets destroyed in lane, what have they done :(

[duo1666]

@stonewall008 To be fair, his ganks are extremely powerful if he gets them off right, and his magic damage output is one of the highest of the AP casters. Granted, wards shut his ganks down a lot, but he still has his upsides. Hes also one of the few APs that can jungle easilly.

[aeler1983]

@stonewall008 I feel like Fidd becomes more like a support in late game, so not as useless als Shaco lategame. Ult into Houreglass and pure dps output. Also great to silence casters in Teamfights. Most Kassadins or Kennens flame over op-silence.

[4GetTHEFun]

@Andrew83194 Karthus.

[Kiddalee]

@Andrew83194 What about Cho'gath?

[kongenDaniel1313]

@Andrew83194

Amu AP jungle is awesome. :)

[opposition22]

still miss old jungle

[elmerion]

Decent champion if you are going against a jungler with weak invade and 0 ways to cancel your drain

[legionofpie]

I hate playing fiddle in the new jungle...

[jermjrich]

Thats soo weird. I was literally thinking about when you were gonna make the vid for jungle fids 0.0

[jjg1032]

what about magic pen

[stonewall008]

Remember to like the videos ;__;

[Weeticus]

@stonewall008 I find it hard not to

[mastazenkei]

@stonewall008 thank's for reminding i always forget , sry bout that , you should ask for like's in every vid it helps a lot

[anagnost77]

@stonewall008 I will, for you

[Maku1024]

@stonewall008 Your mastery page doesn't have a disturbing name. Finding this video somewhat hard to like because of it.

[EmbraceTheThunder]

@stonewall008

Liked! I actually had forgotten to until I saw your message.

Time to go back and like all your S2 videos.

[1upParrot]

@stonewall008 Cuz y'know, 523 likes to 4 dislikes just isn't good enough :P By the way, I love your music choice here, it fits the skin perfectly :D

[Aros230]

It seems you didn't go back for wolf camp is there a reason for that?

[hyperocket]

@Aros230 wolf camp are fore aoe jungler and fiddle is not

[loglog7]

@TheWatermelonBomb Weak speed and easily ganked, also fails hard without blue. Very good ganks though

[Donimbatron]

Champ I first got the first jungling basics with, like many others, Lovely!

[TheWatermelonBomb]

@battlecop the thing is that is the point, since he is draining jungle creeps he is very vulnerable to being ganked by others

[Battlecop]

@TheWatermelonBomb Exactly, and is why I don't jungle him anymore

[Alphab3t4]

At wraiths, I do E on the small wraith as opposite of the big wraith in the hopes of getting more out of my drain.

[Snarks4Breakfast]

Sweet health pot!

[Battlecop]

Imo, an Olaf, lee sin, jarvan, etc etc... could easily walk up to you at any point and kill you.

[Labiec123w]

@Battlecop Just start draining him instead :/

[Battlecop]

@Labiec123w You really cant if it's on cool down, and that's what usually happened to me when I played him jungle.

[Tsukuyomi01]

@Battlecop You obviously haven't done your homework. Fiddlestick can win most 1v1 matches. Against Olaf and Lee Sin, they don't have anything to cut his Drain out short, meaning Fiddlestick will just Drain you til you're out of his range. Against J4, obviously the situation if he has both his E and Q. Even then, Fiddlesticks only needs a level in Fear and his Drain will do enough free damage.

[anagnost77]

@Tsukuyomi01 yes, but Udyr can easily just stun him out of it.

[Gofa2]

@Battlecop

dont underestimate drain.

[Maku1024]

@Battlecop ...Before Fiddle hits level 2

[Battlecop]

@Maku1024 Then he can throw a crow at them, awesome...

[duo1666]

@Battlecop In a real game you would get a minor leash, an wouldnt be that low HP. Ontop of that, no one can really contest fiddles in the jungle in a fight unless they can interrupt his drain, as most junglers dont run smite/ignite.

This is also assuming fids gets blue.

[Battlecop]

@duo1666 Good point, but some champs, like olaf can put out a lot of damage fast so say if you were taking your red buff (stonewall was at about 3 bars of hp) he could easily smite the red (stopping your drain) Q you, then just beat you down before you knew what happened. Jax and lee sin could probably do the same.

[jojo300001]

@duo1666 I dont know a conventional jungler that couldn't beat fiddle.

[duo1666]

@jojo300001 In a 1v1? Fid has fear, silence, and HP transfer. No jungler can just walk up to him in his jungle and faceroll him. Fid will either fear > run, or fear > drain > silence > drain > fear > etc. You can take his farm, but you REALLY need to catch him at the right moment to kill him without CC.

[ManusCelerDei]

@Battlecop you shouldnt' state facts as opinions, they could DEFINATELY just walk up and kill you

[Battlecop]

@ManusCelerDei At first i was going to say "imo, he sucks" but i cut it out and just put that. Great ganks, dies easy.

[nalcarya]

@Battlecop OH REALLY.

[x2xHalox2x]

comment is 1st dam too late

[anagnost77]

Imo, there should be more AP junglers. Fiddle is really tho only viable one ATM

[Zockerthomas]

@anagnost77 you know that there are way more then Fiddle ap jungler? Just look btw at stonewall others S2 guides

[anagnost77]

@Zockerthomas VIABLE ap jungler. Fiddle is the really only viable one, and even he's at a stretch. I don't count Cho' Gath because he's a better solo top than a jungler. Maokai, Amumu and Nunu are more tanks than AP

[burt8888]

@anagnost77 nunu is a good choice, ya he doesn't do the same dmg as fiddle but he can do what fiddle does in the jungle but better, he makes the enemy team hate him if he goes tank or full ap

[anagnost77]

@burt8888 True, true, i forgot about nunu :S. I havent seen a jungle nunu in forever. I usually see them go support or solo top. But with his recent attack speed buffs, hes viable again.

[dashogun11]

doran's ring works right?

[pw0z0rs]

@dashogun11 yea, you only need at LEAST 15 ap

[Emil652]

These S2 jungle videos coming really fast. Stonewall is the boss

[TheWatermelonBomb]

WEAK! srry i am biased, i hate all ap jungles, idk y. Keep em coming stonewall tho!