After ''sucking in'' what you said, so to say, I think it's a pretty solid PvP build :). I don't think I've thought of PvP builds that much really :). God job Force. ^^
why not use one of the runestones for ignore pain? if they're too good that your opponents won't attack you, why is that bad? it's effectively reducing damage by 100% for 5 seconds. or just cast right before you get hit. if they know you have that ready, they will be scared to hit you whenever the spell is ready.
Really enjoying your d3 coverage. Keep it up. I have a different setup i've just made after watching this which may be better. Frenzy (golden/crimson) depends on stun effectiveness in pvp Ancient spear (golden) excellent Weapon throw (crimson) ranged/slow effect Sprint (crimson) catch them easier/avoid their attacks Warcry (indigo) armor/dodge Threatening shout (indigo) damage reduction/slow Juggernaut Superstition Inspiring presence, heal from warcry/keep shout up Cant wait to try out thoeries!
Very good explained with all the skills, although some changes could be made. I would like to see weapon throw instead of hammer of the ancients. Could you do a barbarian PVE build? Thanks !
Frenzy and Hammer of the Ancients don't sound like PvP skills. Frenzy has a short buff and requires constant melee contact to sustain it, something that is fleeting for a melee class in PvP. You're imagining a scenario where your opponent just sits there and lets you hammer away at them, and I just don't see it happening.
I came up with a build ,just dmg buffs and frenzy and 2 gap closers, so I farm a 95 rage, use my 2 dmg buffs (75+100%dmg+ 14% crit) and kill people with frenzy(+24%x5=120%) + 5% crit from ruthless and +50% crit dmg, dropping unforgiving , with a heavy cc demon hunter that my friend is gonna make, maybe dropping spear of the ancients for dmg whirlwind if my friend can keep the enemy slowed 100% of the time.
You will not have the time of stacking your skillbuffs and shout in pvp unless your opponent will be brainlagged. In PvP all that matter is regeneration, damagereduction und Damageskills, which pull off their full effect if you trigger it.
@yosoy1loco ya I figured it out when I checked that wrath of the berserker cost is 75 rage, it could still be possible, however I would have to dedicate a lot of things to generate rage fast and would lose some important skills... I came up with another build afterwards , which is focused purely on getting high criticals while having amazing defensive abilities.
@slayerdark0 weapon throw deals bigger damage than hammer of the ancients and also it is ranged ability... hota is better than throw in PvE because it is melee-range AoE damage, but in PvP obviously weapon throw will be much better
@hobnobs1990 the servers are going to have that many people on them soon anyway.... i don't think everybody should get a key but the servers handling it isn't the issue
@hobnobs1990 yeah i know... it was just some comment i heard on FB of some douche saying he got a beta key but probably wouldn't have time for it because he was waiting for the new WoW patch. That kinda crap set me off; give the keys to people that actually want to be there you know?
this is some horseshit; played d2 for 7 years and did alot in that game pre 1.0 patch and havent even got anything about the beta even being out! i searched it on google... they need to at least to have a tad bit of respect for the OG's to send out bot emails saying you were not selected sorry blah blah. this is a slap in the face to me; and a shitty way of saying FU tbh
Something I notice in the skill calculator on the official website: You can't be creative. I'm saying this because after hours of playing with the skill calculator I notice that all the characters are extremely guided to be played in a certain way.
Example: The only build build with the Barbarian is giving Warcry, Battle Rage and Berzerker, one skill to get closer, and other to use the Fury. And its the same with all the characters (with the Demon Hunter you have to focus in slow down enemies).
As a very strong WoW arena veteran I'm allmost certain that there will be a twist in pvp regarding the runes. Some of the runes examples are Entangling shot heavy burden 70% slow for 9 seconds!! and Vault Rattling Roll, a 4,5 second stun on a no CD ability with.
What is your take on the idea that Blizzard might cap runes at level 1 for pvp?
Wrong rune for ancient spear. You saw in the very clip you included how difficult it is to hit with ancient spear. If you rune it Indigo (grappling hooks) you fire out 8 spears. Much more difficult to avoid 8 spears than it is to avoid one.
Also you don't want your life gain dependent on a 10 second cooldown skillshot. Consider golden runed rend (40% life steal)
Im sorry Force, but your build is a total fail to me. A PvP barb without Invigorate (War cry with Alabaster rune) is just as stupid as a PvP wizard without teleport. I like many of your ideas but again complete and utter fail. 100% armor / 50% life / 479 life regen pr sec, for you and your allies... didnt your Diablo 2 barb use battle orders either?
Im sorry Force, but your build is a total fail to me. A PvP barb without Invigorate (War cry with Alabaster rune) is just as stupid as a PvP wizard without teleport. I like many of your ideas but again complete and utter fail. 100% armor / 50% life / 479 life regen pr sec, for you and your allies... didnt your Diablo 2 barb use battle orders either?
Seriously, if you face a kiting class as a melee class, you want to be able to do as much damage as possible while in melee range, and a dual-wield attack that needs to hit multiple times to ramp up damage is usually not the way to go, you'd want something that hits slow and hard. and while we're at it, an Obsidian runestone in Fury would probably be MUCH better, +24% movement speed? yes please
If anyones interested in a guild of close friends headin into D3, we have room for a couple more :) toss a msg to Dpa66666@yahoo.com and let me know. Were very excited!
The Frenzy Buff (and the "maniac" effect) are only applied to Frenzy attacks. So the Barbarian anti-caster build should drop Frenzy for a different rage-generating skill.
I think Furious Charge with a Crimson rune instead of Whirlwind would be better. Of course Whirlwind is a great skill, I think it's better to have three gap-closers, all with a cool down of 10 seconds is more important. Plus Furious Charge with Crimson does 300% weapon dmg, which is almost as good as hammer o.t.a. anyway. Then again, the knockback on Furious Charge may make Hammer o.t.a. more appealing.
If i remember right, you will be able to switch skill builds on fly in dablo 3? Could someone confirm this for me please? If so how many builds can you have available at the same time to switch inbetween?
Frenzy with 2her (2her prolly necessary for HotA) will suck by attacking slow causing slow maniac buff generation and maniac buff lapses. Furthermore, 700% life leech from siphon in ancient spear will be utter crap without No Escape passive skill.
Since it seems you haven't noticed I'll enlighten you: Throw weapon costs the same amount of rage as HotA but does MORE damage and can attack @ range (which is what you want). Also, you can utilize the no escape passive very effectively
Have you seen how slow weapon-throw is? Not a viable PVP ability in most situations. People will simply dodge it. Also, that strategy eats up a passive ability.
@mightychin123 It will be fine, the animation for weapon throw seems to be about the same speed (the windup) as HotA. Also, with the passive "No Escape," you will gain 3x the life with the "siphon" rune in Ancient spear (Unless, of course, it is multiplicative, then you will only gain 2x the life, but then weapon throw will end up doing 925% weapon damage. So I think it's safe to conclude it is additive)
No offence, but those builds are pointless right now. Not only you simply omit equipement, which can dramiatically change the balance of any PvP match, but you also do now know how particular skills will look like in Arenas. It takes time and practice to make a nice, efficient build. That kind of builds are just for fun imho.
Cool you read my post about pre-beta content on builds. I think showing off some pvp builds is cool, i wasn't even thinking of that. This barb build is great and you do a sweet job at explaining how the different skills help in a pvp situation. Thanks force!
in pvp u want to have max survability n Enough enough instant dmg and resourse generator to ensure max pressure on the enemy team( barb n monk POV ) and since the runes will be rly hard to get, i dont think u will be respeccing as easy we swaping from pvp and pve on will. This might be a great issue n i wud like to hear your thoughts guys :)
my question is: talking about build, basically compared to WoW, no dual spec have been anounced for D3. I was myself working on several kinds of build for the Monk class cause am for sure playing it :) but thing is build will totally affect your gameplay. the spells and Runes for pvp and pve are like rly rly rly different. Where in pve u want to have a maxed out dps compared to survability( assuming you have the knowledge of how to play n kite on boss fight etc).
If the Frenzy buff lasted longer than 4 seconds, I would consider it. But a smart DH/Wiz/WD is going to see your frenzy animation, wait for a spear/LA and then kite away. By the time you can catch back up you're either slowed or your frenzy buff is gone, or both.
things like ignore pain with healing would be better imo since there are so much uncontrolable damage like meteor hydras poisons pets mines etc. Also making a type specific build is pointless since there wont be any 1v1, and even if there is you would win 2/5 classes which isnt great. So a decent build needs to be versitile
I like your builds idea. Good choice for vids before the beta. You probably get a ton of requests but could you find a viable pvp build for a witch doctor?
I believe this is a strong build and that you should continue making videos :) Perhaps explore some Monk builds? They have so many combo skills it's hard for me to begin a build on them.
@szopad I even think the threatening shout is very good, 50% dmg reduction + slow with rune... but I don't think 50% dmg reduction will happen in retail version.
@Norghul yes, I think shouts are really strong as they are now... but especially War Cry with inspiring presence and alabaster rune... it just solves all your survivability and you can also get Battle Rage for a +100% damage buff for 1 minute... ithese 3 skills basically mean you ALWAYS have +50% hp, +1% life regen per second, +100% damage, +4% crit, +100% armor... it's just too much for 3 skills not to take it
Force! Thanks for making this video for me. You switched Wrath of the Berserker for Ignore pain... And you switched the RuneStone for Frenzy. Why didn't you keep the 22% movement speed increase?
I'm probably gonna go with the Witch Doctor, but I have to say that I don't really find the character itself very cool. Also it's an RPG and I'm not black (I'm not being racist here) so that makes it feel kinda weird. Again, no racism intended. Would've been nice if there was a white version too LOL?..
I know what you mean. I wish they would have added some elemental of character customization to Diablo 3, instead of just the choice of gender. Although, in Diablo 2, the Paladin was also colored and he was the most popular character. I don't think it really matters once you actually play the class and enjoy the class for what it can do and not what it looks :P
@Rocco0891 Tbh now I'm thinking about it. Why the fuck didn't they make it so that you can customize your character at the start?.. I mean okay, you couldn't do it in the previous Diablo's either, but it's kinda lame..
I'm not quite sure what their reasoning was for not creating any sort of character customization for Diablo 3. Especially since they're trying to maintain uniqueness within everyone's character by not restricting naming. Idk if you heard or not but we're going to be able to name our characters whatever we want, regardless of if someone else already has a character with the same name. I'm not exactly sure how its going to work but character customization would have been nice... :\
@Rocco0891 Yeah the name thingy is dumb as well. I don't want another *my name* running around.. And if it's the same class it's gonna be even worse. Btw I just changed my mind, because of what we just told each other. Gonna play as a Wizard now.
Guys just to let you know. In F&F yesterday there was a patch with auction house. So I really thing they will let friends and family to test auction house about 2-3 days (or more..) and then beta coming to us. As they said there could be auction house in Closed Beta but there wasn't any there yet. So from now on we know that we are close enough to beta. Won't do more than a week in my opinion. And yes I know..who the hell is waiting 1 week!?
@PainAMVs as far as i heard, there will be an ingame method to change your skills (probably for gold or something) and a method to (kind of) reset your statpoints or skillpoints (probably for even more gold???).
Force. THIS. This is what we need to see over the next few months! This is great insight into the game builds and is what we would expect from your channel! Love it!
@MacMacDKDK We don't yet know how much skills will be changed for pvp. Most likely it will just be some number balancing, but the mechanics will likely remain the same.
@AtanasovPetar facts ? he never said he was SURE, he said it probably would come this week, and who knows, maybe it probably was going to but something major changed bliz mind, stop trying to blame on force cuz you dying to play, be HAPPY on you have a key (IF you do) cuz most of us gonna have to wait at least 6 months to be able to play.
Also please, clean your ears before watching these videos, so you can hear when he says something has a CHANCE of happening, not a SURE thing.
@horamerda2 Do you want me to quote him you noob?Force "I am pretty sure it's gonna be this week maybe friday but i don't think it's gonna be that late.I have this from a very decent source." So shut your fucking mouth jerk off.What does "pretty sure" mean?That he is not sure?gtfo
@AtanasovPetar Why are you so mad ? cursing/swearing, shooting at all targets, dude, chill, you concentrating all your energy on this beta.
And i keep my word, ''pretty sure'' and ''maybe friday but i don't THINK it's gonna be that late'' stll means, NOT a fact, he isnt sure, it was STILL a guess, its sad that you are blind, probably because all you can think about now is playing the beta, cut the cursing cause it wont make you right.
I completly respect yours or anyones builds/opinion but if i had to choose i wouldnt pick frenzy together with hammer + WW, since if you using Frenzy you are probably using 2 weapons, so unless the % of damage (that the skills use) is the combination of both weapons, i think your weapon damage wouldnt be that great.
what i mean is, to me, hammer and WW are skills for 2handed fighters, with already a huge weapon damage, so either change frenzy or the other 2 (to me) but good video anyway
@Moodster420 he never said he was SURE, he said it probably would come this week, and who knows, maybe it probably was going to but something major changed bliz mind, stop trying to blame on force cuz you dying to play, be HAPPY on you have a key (IF you do) cuz most of us gonna have to wait at least 6 months to be able to play.
Also please, clean your ears before watching these videos, so you can hear when he says something has a CHANCE of happening, not a SURE thing.
Sure you probably want a shorter cd on Ignore Pain but question is are matches gonna actually last long enough for it to be used 2+ times? I would preferably go for an Obsidian Rune for saving team mates when you arent focused, but alas, maybe this guide was fully 1v1 focused :/
Am I Mistaken or did Jay Wilson say the skills for PvP will be altered? If so, there's no point in creating builds like this until we know how will they be different than the PvE skills.
Quite Enjoyed watching this, so I would love to see more. Id just add that you shouldn't only do PvP build videos. It would be nice to see builds catering to Inferno difficulty and then some niche builds like no pet Witch Doctor, or Melee wizard.
Hmm I understand everything in this video except the rune on "Ignore Pain" called "Ignorance is Bliss". According to Force this works in the way that 40% of the damage you receive transfers into and adds to your own health. However I'm not so certain that this is what it actually means and I doubt this is how it works. For me it looks like it's instead 40% of the damage you deal yourself that gets transfered and added to your health. I could be wrong, so don't take what I just said for granted!
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TheOldRepublicGuide 1 week ago
After ''sucking in'' what you said, so to say, I think it's a pretty solid PvP build :). I don't think I've thought of PvP builds that much really :). God job Force. ^^
Khornedevotee 1 month ago
why not use one of the runestones for ignore pain? if they're too good that your opponents won't attack you, why is that bad? it's effectively reducing damage by 100% for 5 seconds. or just cast right before you get hit. if they know you have that ready, they will be scared to hit you whenever the spell is ready.
not sure if it would work, just some thoughts.
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DavinCastleberry440 2 months ago
Does the additional damage for frenzy stack each time so 24% times 5?
neyah69 2 months ago 2
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Goodmovederbrah 3 months ago 2
wouldn't bravado knockback kill you against a caster because you will be putting space between you?
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Bbqwafflz 4 months ago
Great video Force! I especially liked the graphics at the beginning.
SaytreJudd 5 months ago
Is it only people with beta keys that can go look at the skill thingy in there? cuz i cant find it
FMJProductionz 5 months ago
@FMJProductionz NVM found it... Nice vid btw
FMJProductionz 5 months ago
Very good explained with all the skills, although some changes could be made. I would like to see weapon throw instead of hammer of the ancients. Could you do a barbarian PVE build? Thanks !
BlubbOnly 5 months ago 6
Force, hands down, you make good/helpful videos = )
Tanx85 5 months ago
Frenzy and Hammer of the Ancients don't sound like PvP skills. Frenzy has a short buff and requires constant melee contact to sustain it, something that is fleeting for a melee class in PvP. You're imagining a scenario where your opponent just sits there and lets you hammer away at them, and I just don't see it happening.
thendcomes 5 months ago
do pvp. dont care for pve builds
Qjemuse 5 months ago
I came up with a build ,just dmg buffs and frenzy and 2 gap closers, so I farm a 95 rage, use my 2 dmg buffs (75+100%dmg+ 14% crit) and kill people with frenzy(+24%x5=120%) + 5% crit from ruthless and +50% crit dmg, dropping unforgiving , with a heavy cc demon hunter that my friend is gonna make, maybe dropping spear of the ancients for dmg whirlwind if my friend can keep the enemy slowed 100% of the time.
slayerdark0 5 months ago
@slayerdark0
You will not have the time of stacking your skillbuffs and shout in pvp unless your opponent will be brainlagged. In PvP all that matter is regeneration, damagereduction und Damageskills, which pull off their full effect if you trigger it.
yosoy1loco 5 months ago
@yosoy1loco ya I figured it out when I checked that wrath of the berserker cost is 75 rage, it could still be possible, however I would have to dedicate a lot of things to generate rage fast and would lose some important skills... I came up with another build afterwards , which is focused purely on getting high criticals while having amazing defensive abilities.
slayerdark0 5 months ago
Smart ! I would like to see other builds from you Force.
PonayAvenger 5 months ago
Weapon Throw would be much better than hammer of the ancients... it deals more damage and it is a range ability, great when you are being kited
szopad 5 months ago
@szopad doesn't hammer of the ancients hits like a truck?
slayerdark0 5 months ago
@slayerdark0 weapon throw deals bigger damage than hammer of the ancients and also it is ranged ability... hota is better than throw in PvE because it is melee-range AoE damage, but in PvP obviously weapon throw will be much better
szopad 5 months ago
@hobnobs1990 the servers are going to have that many people on them soon anyway.... i don't think everybody should get a key but the servers handling it isn't the issue
Gcrab789 5 months ago
Interesting build. (^_^)
toniichan 5 months ago
@hobnobs1990 yeah i know... it was just some comment i heard on FB of some douche saying he got a beta key but probably wouldn't have time for it because he was waiting for the new WoW patch. That kinda crap set me off; give the keys to people that actually want to be there you know?
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supremegamah 5 months ago in playlist Diablo 3
keep it coming force this is GREAT INFO
shokenryu 5 months ago
this is some horseshit; played d2 for 7 years and did alot in that game pre 1.0 patch and havent even got anything about the beta even being out! i searched it on google... they need to at least to have a tad bit of respect for the OG's to send out bot emails saying you were not selected sorry blah blah. this is a slap in the face to me; and a shitty way of saying FU tbh
monkadelic13 5 months ago
Something I notice in the skill calculator on the official website: You can't be creative. I'm saying this because after hours of playing with the skill calculator I notice that all the characters are extremely guided to be played in a certain way.
Example: The only build build with the Barbarian is giving Warcry, Battle Rage and Berzerker, one skill to get closer, and other to use the Fury. And its the same with all the characters (with the Demon Hunter you have to focus in slow down enemies).
xvxcvxvable 5 months ago
OMFG YES BETA!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Go Force! Show some awesome gameplay with all five classes! thumbs upp for you! you the man :D
FinalSkyTheGamer 5 months ago
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As a very strong WoW arena veteran I'm allmost certain that there will be a twist in pvp regarding the runes. Some of the runes examples are Entangling shot heavy burden 70% slow for 9 seconds!! and Vault Rattling Roll, a 4,5 second stun on a no CD ability with.
What is your take on the idea that Blizzard might cap runes at level 1 for pvp?
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tenna5555 5 months ago
Wrong rune for ancient spear. You saw in the very clip you included how difficult it is to hit with ancient spear. If you rune it Indigo (grappling hooks) you fire out 8 spears. Much more difficult to avoid 8 spears than it is to avoid one.
Also you don't want your life gain dependent on a 10 second cooldown skillshot. Consider golden runed rend (40% life steal)
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Im sorry Force, but your build is a total fail to me. A PvP barb without Invigorate (War cry with Alabaster rune) is just as stupid as a PvP wizard without teleport. I like many of your ideas but again complete and utter fail. 100% armor / 50% life / 479 life regen pr sec, for you and your allies... didnt your Diablo 2 barb use battle orders either?
JannWoyt 5 months ago
Im sorry Force, but your build is a total fail to me. A PvP barb without Invigorate (War cry with Alabaster rune) is just as stupid as a PvP wizard without teleport. I like many of your ideas but again complete and utter fail. 100% armor / 50% life / 479 life regen pr sec, for you and your allies... didnt your Diablo 2 barb use battle orders either?
JannWoyt 5 months ago
Seriously, if you face a kiting class as a melee class, you want to be able to do as much damage as possible while in melee range, and a dual-wield attack that needs to hit multiple times to ramp up damage is usually not the way to go, you'd want something that hits slow and hard. and while we're at it, an Obsidian runestone in Fury would probably be MUCH better, +24% movement speed? yes please
RichoDemus 5 months ago
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Can't wait for the next one
TheShadowQuincy 5 months ago
MOAR FORCE, MOAR
TheRoltonFan 5 months ago
I saw that the Barb has 9 seconds worth of stuns. I wonder if there will be diminishing return.
Ouroboros70 5 months ago
If anyones interested in a guild of close friends headin into D3, we have room for a couple more :) toss a msg to Dpa66666@yahoo.com and let me know. Were very excited!
TheRealEvades 5 months ago
That build me lol. I own you!
VotePaineJefferson 5 months ago
The Frenzy Buff (and the "maniac" effect) are only applied to Frenzy attacks. So the Barbarian anti-caster build should drop Frenzy for a different rage-generating skill.
mightychin123 5 months ago
I think Furious Charge with a Crimson rune instead of Whirlwind would be better. Of course Whirlwind is a great skill, I think it's better to have three gap-closers, all with a cool down of 10 seconds is more important. Plus Furious Charge with Crimson does 300% weapon dmg, which is almost as good as hammer o.t.a. anyway. Then again, the knockback on Furious Charge may make Hammer o.t.a. more appealing.
BrianFromMaine 5 months ago
I've been anticipating the next build all day!
Lhurgolf 5 months ago
This is going to be a great segment. I cannot wait until you have more game footage to pull from!
k0rrupti0n9975 5 months ago
If i remember right, you will be able to switch skill builds on fly in dablo 3? Could someone confirm this for me please? If so how many builds can you have available at the same time to switch inbetween?
DaZiomas 5 months ago
@DaZiomas That's how it is now. But, I highly doubt that is how it'll be at release.
uscasian8 5 months ago
Very well done and explained.
KevinCA1987 5 months ago
please do a monk anti melee/caster build
hower4o 5 months ago
Damn Goner you sound like an ass. Just cause you have a difference of opinion doesn't mean u need to put on your troll hat.
Devskeeet 5 months ago
Fail build.
Frenzy with 2her (2her prolly necessary for HotA) will suck by attacking slow causing slow maniac buff generation and maniac buff lapses. Furthermore, 700% life leech from siphon in ancient spear will be utter crap without No Escape passive skill.
Since it seems you haven't noticed I'll enlighten you: Throw weapon costs the same amount of rage as HotA but does MORE damage and can attack @ range (which is what you want). Also, you can utilize the no escape passive very effectively
Goner86 5 months ago
@Goner86 You could also add bash as your main fury generator and use either unleashed or clobber rune effects.
Goner86 5 months ago
@Goner86
Have you seen how slow weapon-throw is? Not a viable PVP ability in most situations. People will simply dodge it. Also, that strategy eats up a passive ability.
mightychin123 5 months ago
@mightychin123 It will be fine, the animation for weapon throw seems to be about the same speed (the windup) as HotA. Also, with the passive "No Escape," you will gain 3x the life with the "siphon" rune in Ancient spear (Unless, of course, it is multiplicative, then you will only gain 2x the life, but then weapon throw will end up doing 925% weapon damage. So I think it's safe to conclude it is additive)
Goner86 5 months ago
OK dont play PvP with Force you will die even if you hack to get god mode you will die
sirkaos777 5 months ago
sick build! keep em coming
chaeron1000 5 months ago
That was awesome force!
Wogehkak 5 months ago
Force were you a communications or tv/radio major in school or do you just have a jesus voice?
BTideRoll10 5 months ago
sounds like an arms war
mrprofessorpoison 5 months ago
Good stuff. That looks like a solid pvp anti caster build. Keep em' coming.
elandua1 5 months ago
quick question guys
i was wondering if the increased speed buffs stack?
Frenzy+Obsidian=22% increased movement while under frenzy effect
Sprint+Crimson=10% increased movement for 20 seconds
So would that mean 32% faster movement?
GQvis 5 months ago
No offence, but those builds are pointless right now. Not only you simply omit equipement, which can dramiatically change the balance of any PvP match, but you also do now know how particular skills will look like in Arenas. It takes time and practice to make a nice, efficient build. That kind of builds are just for fun imho.
Ajanek 5 months ago in playlist Więcej filmów od użytkownika ForceSC2strategy
Cool you read my post about pre-beta content on builds. I think showing off some pvp builds is cool, i wasn't even thinking of that. This barb build is great and you do a sweet job at explaining how the different skills help in a pvp situation. Thanks force!
Sirroben30 5 months ago
in pvp u want to have max survability n Enough enough instant dmg and resourse generator to ensure max pressure on the enemy team( barb n monk POV ) and since the runes will be rly hard to get, i dont think u will be respeccing as easy we swaping from pvp and pve on will. This might be a great issue n i wud like to hear your thoughts guys :)
Staline1991 5 months ago
my question is: talking about build, basically compared to WoW, no dual spec have been anounced for D3. I was myself working on several kinds of build for the Monk class cause am for sure playing it :) but thing is build will totally affect your gameplay. the spells and Runes for pvp and pve are like rly rly rly different. Where in pve u want to have a maxed out dps compared to survability( assuming you have the knowledge of how to play n kite on boss fight etc).
Staline1991 5 months ago
Wizard melee plz!
Sheixas 5 months ago
If the Frenzy buff lasted longer than 4 seconds, I would consider it. But a smart DH/Wiz/WD is going to see your frenzy animation, wait for a spear/LA and then kite away. By the time you can catch back up you're either slowed or your frenzy buff is gone, or both.
RBIVscreamtherequiem 5 months ago
Keep em coming!
sleeperkemp 5 months ago
Awesome segment, force. Keep doing these. I'd like to see a monk or demon hunter build next.
warbongkingfu 5 months ago
Beta's still not out? WTF?
masterdz522 5 months ago
things like ignore pain with healing would be better imo since there are so much uncontrolable damage like meteor hydras poisons pets mines etc. Also making a type specific build is pointless since there wont be any 1v1, and even if there is you would win 2/5 classes which isnt great. So a decent build needs to be versitile
agita3535 5 months ago
@force Nice work, and can't wait to have a build about PvE Wizard. Keep on doing a good job Force !
percevalex 5 months ago
I like your builds idea. Good choice for vids before the beta. You probably get a ton of requests but could you find a viable pvp build for a witch doctor?
mptothedc 5 months ago
how about this you CAN change skills ANY time so your build will vary EVERY time depending on the matchups its STUPID to make any specific build
secazinha 5 months ago
Does Ancient Spear remind anyone else of Scorpion from Mortal Kombat?
GTXanatos13 5 months ago
@GTXanatos13 Also, this segment is very cool, keep it up.
GTXanatos13 5 months ago
@GTXanatos13 GET OVER HERE
masonashlock 5 months ago
I believe this is a strong build and that you should continue making videos :) Perhaps explore some Monk builds? They have so many combo skills it's hard for me to begin a build on them.
AbstractChaos666 5 months ago
GIEF MORE of this! its awesome!
Shuubbie 5 months ago
fury generator? how many elements are they borrowing from WoW? jeez
thelostkin 5 months ago
Also, keep doing these videos! Witch Doctor next? :)
TheAaroon 5 months ago in playlist More videos from ForceSC2strategy
Unforgiving seems like a rad passive. Must-have for Barbs.
TheAaroon 5 months ago in playlist More videos from ForceSC2strategy
Monk Way of a thousand fist build next! :P
armoredvampire 5 months ago
Your build is wrong force... there is no reason to skip War Cry... it's a must-have.
szopad 5 months ago
@szopad I even think the threatening shout is very good, 50% dmg reduction + slow with rune... but I don't think 50% dmg reduction will happen in retail version.
Norghul 5 months ago
@Norghul yes, I think shouts are really strong as they are now... but especially War Cry with inspiring presence and alabaster rune... it just solves all your survivability and you can also get Battle Rage for a +100% damage buff for 1 minute... ithese 3 skills basically mean you ALWAYS have +50% hp, +1% life regen per second, +100% damage, +4% crit, +100% armor... it's just too much for 3 skills not to take it
szopad 5 months ago
Note: Information on this page is based on a level 60 character and rank 7 runestones.
so if youre not maxed you wont have those high numbers, maybe 40sec cooldown on bravado if lvl 30 and 200% on smash... juz sayin...
timtb 5 months ago
the only difference between my build and this one is I use ground stomp instead of ancient hammer
yzhang333 5 months ago
I said it before and I'll say it again. I am SO glad I stumbled upon this channel.
salpha22 5 months ago in playlist More videos from ForceSC2strategy
great video
Wade12828 5 months ago
Anti-caster Barbarian? Good to see a new build for PVP. I was getting sick of all the 4-gating on ladder.
hugmeshootme 5 months ago
waoooo, mind freshing, never thought barbarian can be this powerful in pvp, I am going to build a witch doc to against it!
buzaihu002 5 months ago
good news: Diablo 3 will be officially on sale on December 5th!
felix4299 5 months ago
Force! Thanks for making this video for me. You switched Wrath of the Berserker for Ignore pain... And you switched the RuneStone for Frenzy. Why didn't you keep the 22% movement speed increase?
What gives??
-Joe
JLXOutlaw 5 months ago
I like the build and this new series is great. Keep them coming!!!
CommanderBR 5 months ago
Whats that blizzerd, you want me to burn my house down?
silorakops 5 months ago
the ignorance is bliss rune for ignore pain.. isnt it basically 40% life leech? not 40% of dmg absorbed going to health?
TheRibcage93 5 months ago
I'm probably gonna go with the Witch Doctor, but I have to say that I don't really find the character itself very cool. Also it's an RPG and I'm not black (I'm not being racist here) so that makes it feel kinda weird. Again, no racism intended. Would've been nice if there was a white version too LOL?..
Michaelmop 5 months ago
@Michaelmop
I know what you mean. I wish they would have added some elemental of character customization to Diablo 3, instead of just the choice of gender. Although, in Diablo 2, the Paladin was also colored and he was the most popular character. I don't think it really matters once you actually play the class and enjoy the class for what it can do and not what it looks :P
Rocco0891 5 months ago
@Rocco0891 Exactly, glad you get my point instead of telling to stfu and not whine so much.
Michaelmop 5 months ago
@Rocco0891 Tbh now I'm thinking about it. Why the fuck didn't they make it so that you can customize your character at the start?.. I mean okay, you couldn't do it in the previous Diablo's either, but it's kinda lame..
Michaelmop 5 months ago
@Michaelmop
I'm not quite sure what their reasoning was for not creating any sort of character customization for Diablo 3. Especially since they're trying to maintain uniqueness within everyone's character by not restricting naming. Idk if you heard or not but we're going to be able to name our characters whatever we want, regardless of if someone else already has a character with the same name. I'm not exactly sure how its going to work but character customization would have been nice... :\
Rocco0891 5 months ago
@Rocco0891 Yeah the name thingy is dumb as well. I don't want another *my name* running around.. And if it's the same class it's gonna be even worse. Btw I just changed my mind, because of what we just told each other. Gonna play as a Wizard now.
Michaelmop 5 months ago
Where's ma Beta!?
zirius89 5 months ago
WHERE THE HELL IS DIABLO 3 BETA GAMEPLAY FOOTAGE???!?!?!?!
mkim1224 5 months ago
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excellent work force as always your my favorite caster! keep it up
villasanCJ 5 months ago
excellent work force, as always your my favorite caster! keep it up *
villasanCJ 5 months ago
barb check d3 check pvp eeeeek
FrVitoBe 5 months ago
BETA? u said BETA THIS WEEK!!!!!!!!!
constipationnow 5 months ago
demon hunter next!!! gogo
Arthes 5 months ago
oh btw.. nice work Force, great view on strategy.
saintmain 5 months ago
This is the best answer to all the "no customizasion" complainers out there.. This game will be epic!
saintmain 5 months ago
Very good strategy guide! Love it!
SuperMemzzz 5 months ago
So what kind of weapon do you suggest? Frenzy seems very dual wield focused (You can DW can't you?) but WW and Hammer seem 2H weapon focused
TheHugbees 5 months ago
Great stuff Force! Keep it comming!
imbadimba 5 months ago
nice build, the only thing that I would change is the ww with earthquake (w indigo)
Volaxad 5 months ago
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MayhemKira 5 months ago
@AtanasovPetar You do realize that we have timezones?
armd86 5 months ago
@armd86 That's why i said it's 15:00 clock here you moron.
AtanasovPetar 5 months ago
Force love your work , watch all your vids keep up the good work !
eatshiftndie 5 months ago 40
Definitely keep this series up.
ColMaelRadec 5 months ago
I <3 your voice
d3charbuilds 5 months ago
What an Epic New Intro :OO.
DistortionWave 5 months ago
@DistortionWave Thats not a new intro though :/
MultiDark4ever 5 months ago
PLS bring a monk your Monk Build Force :).
DistortionWave 5 months ago
keep the builds coming!
fryedegg 5 months ago 47
@AtanasovPetar agreed
jonnycool2009 5 months ago
Guys just to let you know. In F&F yesterday there was a patch with auction house. So I really thing they will let friends and family to test auction house about 2-3 days (or more..) and then beta coming to us. As they said there could be auction house in Closed Beta but there wasn't any there yet. So from now on we know that we are close enough to beta. Won't do more than a week in my opinion. And yes I know..who the hell is waiting 1 week!?
NikoVanAthand 5 months ago
Although it's all just theory, since skills will be changed, it looks like a pretty solid build.
Keep up the good work !
0kiru 5 months ago 2
Cool build!
bddblade 5 months ago
1 newbie question,once selected,can the skills be changed by others anytime?
PainAMVs 5 months ago
@PainAMVs as far as i heard, there will be an ingame method to change your skills (probably for gold or something) and a method to (kind of) reset your statpoints or skillpoints (probably for even more gold???).
Unicron187 5 months ago
YES!
makon89 5 months ago
You should definitely keep making these! :D
Zephymos 5 months ago 2
Stop giving people ideas n beating casters jerk
ScruffyGaming 5 months ago
/i thought you said beta was coming this week...
BenMoyes1 5 months ago
Force it's fury not rage =) 09:22
JuaccoMan 5 months ago
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JuaccoMan 5 months ago
Force. THIS. This is what we need to see over the next few months! This is great insight into the game builds and is what we would expect from your channel! Love it!
doctrzombie 5 months ago
Force, looks like your predictions for beta this week might be wrong. Fingers crossed :/
NikolayDyankov 5 months ago 2
theory is great but useless till u we actually see it in battle.
Tinybim 5 months ago
It’s Friday, Friday
Gotta get down on Friday
Everybody’s lookin’ forward to the weekend, weekend
Friday, Friday
Gettin’ down on Friday
Everybody’s lookin’ forward to the weekend
scgpunisher 5 months ago 2
@AtanasovPetar Jesus dude its like not even 8 in the morning...relax a bit.
gdoggcasey 5 months ago
@gdoggcasey Here it's 15:00.Not 08:00.
AtanasovPetar 5 months ago
Do we call this build the "YOU CAN'T LEAVE" barbarian?
marcel117 5 months ago
@marcel117 or we could take it from mortal kombat. The "GET OVER HERE" barbarian
mptothedc 5 months ago
why would u do a PvP spec, when blizz have stated multiple times that skills are gonna be changed for PvP.
MacMacDKDK 5 months ago
@MacMacDKDK We don't yet know how much skills will be changed for pvp. Most likely it will just be some number balancing, but the mechanics will likely remain the same.
XenonSCRB 5 months ago
@MacMacDKDK still doesnt change my point :)
MacMacDKDK 5 months ago
Keep making builds until the beta is out,I find it very useful
foamyrocks665 5 months ago
Cool video! Keep them coming! :D
kolevra 5 months ago
Thought beta was this week, if its not here by next week ima go mentals
kaine180 5 months ago
@AtanasovPetar facts ? he never said he was SURE, he said it probably would come this week, and who knows, maybe it probably was going to but something major changed bliz mind, stop trying to blame on force cuz you dying to play, be HAPPY on you have a key (IF you do) cuz most of us gonna have to wait at least 6 months to be able to play.
Also please, clean your ears before watching these videos, so you can hear when he says something has a CHANCE of happening, not a SURE thing.
horamerda2 5 months ago
@horamerda2 Do you want me to quote him you noob?Force "I am pretty sure it's gonna be this week maybe friday but i don't think it's gonna be that late.I have this from a very decent source." So shut your fucking mouth jerk off.What does "pretty sure" mean?That he is not sure?gtfo
AtanasovPetar 5 months ago
@AtanasovPetar Why are you so mad ? cursing/swearing, shooting at all targets, dude, chill, you concentrating all your energy on this beta.
And i keep my word, ''pretty sure'' and ''maybe friday but i don't THINK it's gonna be that late'' stll means, NOT a fact, he isnt sure, it was STILL a guess, its sad that you are blind, probably because all you can think about now is playing the beta, cut the cursing cause it wont make you right.
horamerda2 5 months ago
excellent segment, keep it up
TheBen8765 5 months ago
I completly respect yours or anyones builds/opinion but if i had to choose i wouldnt pick frenzy together with hammer + WW, since if you using Frenzy you are probably using 2 weapons, so unless the % of damage (that the skills use) is the combination of both weapons, i think your weapon damage wouldnt be that great.
what i mean is, to me, hammer and WW are skills for 2handed fighters, with already a huge weapon damage, so either change frenzy or the other 2 (to me) but good video anyway
horamerda2 5 months ago
You lied about the beta bein this week force. shame on you
Moodster420 5 months ago
@Moodster420 he never said he was SURE, he said it probably would come this week, and who knows, maybe it probably was going to but something major changed bliz mind, stop trying to blame on force cuz you dying to play, be HAPPY on you have a key (IF you do) cuz most of us gonna have to wait at least 6 months to be able to play.
Also please, clean your ears before watching these videos, so you can hear when he says something has a CHANCE of happening, not a SURE thing.
horamerda2 5 months ago
the buff length of frenzy is good for a one off mass damage ability with a cooldown.
your build has none of these. i guess hammer will have to do. <3
frenzy kind of defeats the purpose of fast damage in pvp against ranged characters.
you need fast hit speeds to pull its buffs off effectively and that leaves your nuke abilities weak because of your small base weapon damage.
gabbonoo 5 months ago
in that barbarian skill i think u might use also the charge..to get near the caster
cainea 5 months ago
Sure you probably want a shorter cd on Ignore Pain but question is are matches gonna actually last long enough for it to be used 2+ times? I would preferably go for an Obsidian Rune for saving team mates when you arent focused, but alas, maybe this guide was fully 1v1 focused :/
RiftToday 5 months ago
wheres the beta ?
le013r 5 months ago
more more more!
123dtv 5 months ago
Am I Mistaken or did Jay Wilson say the skills for PvP will be altered? If so, there's no point in creating builds like this until we know how will they be different than the PvE skills.
haselo3l 5 months ago
Quite Enjoyed watching this, so I would love to see more. Id just add that you shouldn't only do PvP build videos. It would be nice to see builds catering to Inferno difficulty and then some niche builds like no pet Witch Doctor, or Melee wizard.
ronanwasere 5 months ago
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ronanwasere 5 months ago
WD next! I enjoyed this clip.
artamus13 5 months ago
Hmm I understand everything in this video except the rune on "Ignore Pain" called "Ignorance is Bliss". According to Force this works in the way that 40% of the damage you receive transfers into and adds to your own health. However I'm not so certain that this is what it actually means and I doubt this is how it works. For me it looks like it's instead 40% of the damage you deal yourself that gets transfered and added to your health. I could be wrong, so don't take what I just said for granted!
Xerlane 5 months ago
great build imo :))
lebleb31 5 months ago