Darwinism is about how different species evolve, not so much man. What Mr. Stein is talking about is that different scientists are loosing their jobs saying there is a GOD, not just evolution. And as far as vaccines and viruses do evolve, because man is tormented by scientists thinking that the structure of man's DNA came from Eukarote bacteria, and man is not a microb. Man is made of tissue, Red blood cells and neurons that do not make up microbs. Evolution of animals is just that, animals.
@Laidoutbug 'Education has never happened in recorded history' Lmaooo, evolution is happening right now... Why do you think the flu vaccines have to be changed so often? Because the virus is evolving, mutating in order to overcome the medicine. How else do you think diseases become resistant to treatment? They evolve!
It's not over yet! Glenn Beck is still on air on gbtv.com It is a site owned an run by Glenn. You can watch Glenn's Daily 2-hour Show plus many many more Glenn beck stuff now! go sign up today, I did and I love it.
@ajmmii Zero? How about Darwin couldn't point to clear evidence of a species that came about due to evolution. That was his deal, all came from evolution. Read his origins of species and you will see that he is talking nonsense. Also Labelling some one an evolutionist and saying they dont know how life started, well that has nothing to do with evolution. Evolution deals with what happened after life started.
"An answer that wouldn't make sense to a small child"? Neither would basically any scientific theory or law. Infact I can't think of any scientific theory or law that the average adult knows anything about except the very very basic simplified layman's slightly lying to make more easy to understand version.
Yes there is a secret conspiracy by universities and the scientific community to prove god does not exist and to bring the NWO to power so we can all go to hell. Yeah sure Ben Stein. Btw, of course Darwin didn't explain how life emerged out of non-living structures. That''s abiogenesis not evolution, that's not where his theory was about. So is Newton's theory bad because it didn't explain what atom's where?
@ajmmii that statement is inaccurate, "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof;" -First Amendment
All religion is to be treated equally, and not in any way be involved in the government.
They wrote this in, because of the artificial power that the church held in Europe and specifically in England. This measure was to prevent the church from dominating the people, instead the people could choose to believe as they wish.
@ajmmii Oh come on, can't you see the signs. Glenn Beck is the Nazi Admirer. He won't shut up about what the Nazis or Hitler did. He mentions the stuff all the time. And Ben Stein is unaware of that.
@ajmmii Considering the way that every subject he discusses and disagrees with almost immediately -- within 30 to 180 seconds -- succumbs to Godwin's Law, he is obviously compensating for some level of Nazi sympathy in much the same way that closet homosexuals compensate for their sexual insecurity by exhibiting extreme bigotry towards homosexuals and women.
@buffboynick No, its not, you insane crackpot! The Ancient Alien theory that you're alluding to hasn't been proven and isn't fact. The genes could only evolve not be manipulated. That was when early human beings were crawling out of the mud. Now accept the truth, you crazy, conspiracy-theory loving S.O.B.!
@buffboynick Alright before I give my response to your allegation, I'd just like to ask if evolution isn't true which it is if you pay close attention 2 natural history and genetics what do you believe then? Please inform me.
Both the fossil record and the DNA evidence show more evidence of gene hybridization, gene modification, gene removal (all known as genetic engineering)
That is the ONLY explanation of the INCREASING COMPLEXITY of all organisms on Earth (which even Darwinists admit by the way)
and the ONLY explanation of where NEW species come from and why there is no traceable source of origin in the fossil record
Some hybridization (Ligers) occurs in the wild while most is done in a LAB
Okay, here's where your wrong. There was no entity out there 2 genetically engineer anything millions of years ago. Everything that happened in that time occurred in nature and was unplanned. The technology needed 2 alter anything via eugenics wasn't available or even invented at the time. What you're asserting is science fiction that's not supported in fact nor study. Now the liger & hybrid thing that's true but the ancient genetic engineering thing, no not all. We evolved from apes.
@buffboynick You know what? I just might check it out only because I think the idea of Ancient Aliens is pretty cool and the show based on the concept is pretty kickass but in all fairness its not proved as of yet. So Okay.
You should because evolution and creationism are both the same thing (think about it)
Panspermia and Ancient Astronaut Theory are the furtherest things from Christianity, Creationism, and Darwinism there is.
Thats why religious nuts say "alien are demons, no aliens exist"
This a lie though, because its MATHEMATICALLY IMPOSSIBLE that alien dont exist in a universe that is INFINITE in size (according to the largest scale model of the universe "the millenium simulation")
@buffboynick I know. The possiblity that there are aliens out there are pretty decent. Its not worth dismissing so immediately. That and it would explain world religions. I swear to god, I can't stand the bullcrap religious people say espiecially the Christians. Dude, you ever notice how arrogant those bastards act to agnostics or atheists? That would be funny if they did worship aliens. You're alright buffboynick.
@buffboynick Wow, you are dumb. You're basically just a human leech at this point, using up precious energy and oxygen that actual rational and intelligent beings could use to help benefit and better humanity. Please choke on a cheeseburger or some other American "delicatesse".
I am sorry to burst your bubble friend. But it was evolution's theory of "survival of the fittest" combined with the eugenics doctrine of genetic purity, that the Nazi's used to justify they extermination of people's deemed unfit to live, gays, blacks, Jehovah's Witnesses, Jews.
Without Darwinism and Evolution you lose have the justification for the holocaust.
@ViCe1986 Its easy to say that Darwin caused the Holocaust, but in all fairness, its not right or fair. That's like saying the Wright Brothers were responsible for 9/11 because they invented the plane. Should we excuse Hitler and the Nazis for what they did because of the ideas they had? Of course not, wrong is wrong. Personal responsibilty has to come into play here. Hitler knew what he did. Hitler even without Darwin's theory would have said and done anything to justify his actions.
"...it's a BS answer. It's an answer that wouldn't make sense to a small child. It's not a real answer." One of the most ignorant statements that I have ever heard, adults cannot fathom all of the workings of the universe, let alone a child.
Stein when asked what atheist think about origin of life "They dont have an answer.. well they do but its a bs answer, it wouldnt make sense to a small child, its not a real answer." So acording to stein, the only real answers out there are ones that little children understand??? lol... I used to have respect for stein when people would try to win his money, but with stupid comments like that Id sooner flush em down a toilet.
@SSArcher11 If you believe in intelligent design, then do you believe in big foot? spaghetti monster? If not, why? They have just as much merit as a GOD does.. think about it.. I dont understand how people with a normal functioning brain can believe in such ancient fairytales
@LaurenNRI Nah, what's ignorant is that we live in a world with religion that has not one ounce of truth attached to it. We continue to live our lives based on books that were written thousands of years ago by people who had little to no comprehension on how the universe/planets work and were just looking for an understand of the universe. Well guess what, we have less crackpot theories out there to believe in that make sense other than magic man in the sky. Wake up people...
we dont know how life started we cant know everything, but equating it to god must have made it is stupid, it would be like if you couldn't get a math problem so you just say the answer is 7 someone would ask you cant prove its 7 they would say to you ya but you don't have any answer because you cant figure out the equation so im just going to say its 7. , NOTHING should be taught in school about the very origins of life BECAUSE NO ONE KNOWS
The claim that the largly assumed scientific explanation for the creation of life is a lightning strike to "mud" is obvious propagandal That is not what science says at all. It was a long and complicated prosess that started with some divided cells who joined up and a billoin years you have us. Although random, that sounds to me a lot more logical than some guy creating things from nothing for six days.
Letsflogthezog....thanks for correcting my error while I was typing to fast and forgot to go over what I wrote. Wow you must be highly educated thanks again!
The soldiers you are using to make yourself look ethical defend a place where you can go to public school as a christian or nonchristian and have an equal education. There is more to the creation argument than christian vs. science and to act as if that is the current problem undermines the very reason our country was founded. I like you better on comedy central when I was a kid, you're not smart enough to do anything real
@ajmmii no creationism is theology not science. if there is no scientific evidence for something whats the point in bringing it up in a scientific discussion, why not bring up the loch ness monster or ghosts?
just because these talking-heads aren't smart enough to understand evolution or emergence of life DOES NOT mean "oh yeah we don't know... so let's see, the easiest way to explain this is, god did it"
admittedly, scientist do not yet claim to know how life emerged on earth or what proceeded the big bang. they have several hypotheses that are rigorously being tested.
scientist do claim, though, that there is no evidence able to refute the theory of evolution or the big band therory...
"All matter is merely energy condensed to a slow vibration, we are all one consciousness experiencing itself subjectively, there is no such thing as dead, life is only a dream and we are the imagination of ourselves." -Bill Hicks
If you read an Objective history of Christainity, which if you are a true Christian, do not do it, it really makes you realize it is......political in its orgin. That said, if it makes you a better person, i am all for it.
Nylon eating bacteria originated after the invention of nylon. Evolution evidence numero uno! Christians think Women are made from ribs. I'd rather go with Darwin on this one.
If you are allowed to teach intelligent design in a science calssroom, then you also have to let in the other crazies too. Intelligent design promoters wouldn't want me saying life came from a pink fairy living on Mars but its ok if i say their sky fairy did it all?! hypocrisy!
I wouldn't normally comment on discourse such as I've read in the comments here. However, regardless of your beliefs, theories, teachings, whatever... I recommend Gerald L. Schroeder's "The Hidden Face Of God" (2001). Not an easy read, although it IS funny in places. No dogma at all. I read it (twice) because it was written by a man of science, presenting proven scientific facts, insisting that you draw your own conclusions therefrom. Very compelling, if either of you have the nerve to read it.
Do Jews believe in hell? I think it's only in the Old Testament like once, and I can't remember hearing any Jewish people TALKING about it.
Anyway, point is that if god DOES exist, then he knows that you are LYING IN THIS INTERVIEW, you LIED IN THAT MOVIE, and YOU LIE EVERY TIME YOU SPEAK ABOUT THIS, Mr. Stein. You're ALSO misleading people who trust you. If god exists, then he sees what you're doing, sir, and you will have your day at the scale; will YOU be found wanting, Ben?
@Soulfunk89 I think the fly spaghetti monster would take issue with your illogical statement. Don't worry though, your just one of many people that doesn't have a clue about Intelligent Design.
What's illogical about it??? Intelligent design follows the principals of creation from conscious forces. God pretty much. So I don't really understand what you're trying to say.
@ajmmii Methinks it's YOU who doesn't know about intelligent design, what with gobbledy-gook like THAT! Go ask Dembski how information theory applies to DAT, yo!
Everything in the universe reacts to the surrounding enviroment. So if something appears to be "intelligently designed", then that is only because that complex organism is the result of millions of years of adaptation to the enviroment. It didn't all just happen in a flash. It's very gradual. One atom joined with others to create a piece of matter. Then to different pieces of matter, originating from diff enviroments, came together to make a chemical reaction. That created a cell and so forth..
@ajmmii: Exactly. Software can't write itself. So I wonder why some people think that a highly complex god could have just came into existence out of nowhere. ...If someone is willing to believe that god came out of nowhere, then why not also consider the possibility that the big bang just came out of nowhere (or started in a way that we human beings have yet to scientifically figure out)?
@ajmmii: I used to be a Christian from 11 years old til 18. In my church, I've never heard anyone assume that they knew how God came into existence. Their only explanation was that God never began and that he just always has been in existence. For me, this was an insufficient explanation. Now it seems like you, ajmmii, are a Christian and might have something more substantiative to say about the matter. Will u offer your explanation of how God came to be?
@summercures2 I dont think its a bad theory (believing in God) because, we exist and everything around us exists, something had to create it. For us to ask something like "well who created God" is kind of ignorant because our human brain is NOT all knowing and I dont think is even capable of understanding something so complex like that, even if God himself tried to explain it to us in this body. You cant teach a squirrel to build a rocket, so why a human about the creation of existance?
@MexicoNativeAmerican: The reason why I ask "who created God?" is because, if God created the universe, then that must mean that God is far more complex than the universe itself. So if ur argument for creation is that the universe is too complex to just come out of nothing, then u must also ask how an even much more complex God came out of nothing. ...Although I cant grasp how the universe initially got started, I sure can comprehend how it came to b how it is today without a god to "create" it.
@summercures2 I agree with you that its hard to believe that something like God could have just poofed into existence. But again, were thinking according to what we know about existence. Take into consideration that things like time,matter,space, thoughts,emotions etc... are things of this world. Maybe this things dont apply to God in his. God didnt have to come from anywhere because things like time and space dont apply to him, he made them up for this world. I used to be an atheist.
@MexicoNativeAmerican: Part 1/ If u say that things such as time, matter, and space do not apply to God, then what you're really saying is that God doesn't exist. Take the Tooth Fairy for example; the fairy doesn't have any matter and therefore it can neither take up space nor move around in it and thus can neither be measured with time. Therefore, the Tooth Fairy cant exist. However, science was able to prove atoms, for instance, exist because they exist in T, M, & Space (conitnue to PART 2)
@MexicoNativeAmerican: PART2/Furhtermore, I think that psychological science pretty much proves that matter came before consciousness. Therefore a conscious being could not have been around prior to matter existing. Our brains are a very complex piece of matter that contains billions of nuerons,dendrites, synapses, chemicals, minerals, nerves, and and even electricity. The complexity of our brains merely gives us the illusion that our Self is seperate from our body. But our brain is just matter.
@summercures2 I understand what your saying but I dont believe that matter came before consciousness, in this case God. I dont believe human beings are capable of understanding this. Everything we know is just made up, its a reality that we were put in. We have no idea what God is. Trying to understand how the universe (matter, etc.)works isnt going to tell us why or how God is there. We live in this universe so its all we know, which means that we only know and understand so much....
@MexicoNativeAmerican: PART1/You said "...I dont believe that matter came before consciousness." What you have to understand is that all living things have organs that are used for consciously sensing the world around them. Take humans for example; we have noses to smell, eyes for seeing, ears to hear, tongues for tasting, and billions of nerves in our bodies for feeling & touch. And our brains operate via these organs to consciously experience the enviroment around us. ...(Conitinue to Part 2)
@MexicoNativeAmerican: PART2/ Now given that the brain can only allow a living thing to be conscious of its enviroment via the sensory organs, how is the brain to operate with no enviroment at all? What I'm saying is that if God began with no existing enviroment around him/her, just darkness, how can his alleged consciousness percieve to do anything at all without a physical body equiped with a sense of smell, touch, sight, taste, or hearing? ...(Conitnue to last Part)
@MexicoNativeAmerican: PART3/ I think that any living thing initially existing in an enviroment devoid of matter,light, and sound would seriously be at an intellectual disadvantage to be doing any creating. I think that an already existing enviroment is the basis for the most ant-like intelligence. In the beggining I think light,atoms,matter,minerals,liquids,dusts, and varying temperatures gave rise to living things. The complexity of it is a testament to the trillions of years of development.
@summercures2 dude your not understanding what Im saying. This place were in (universe) isnt everything there is. Its just a creation of God. No matter how much we know about his creation will tell us anything about God.
God didnt have to have be created to exist and we cant understand why, because we only know of things from this place. Matter,time,space etc. arent everything. If God exist then he made them up. Our way of thinking is this theres a beggining and end. why? ans. universe
@MexicoNativeAmerican: PART1/First of all, I think I effectively explained why consciousness did not come before matter. However, that does not mean that some highly evolved being, living in a seperate universe (dimension), couldn't have created this universe (perhaps using some advanced software as in the Matrix). But, given that there is no evidence so far discovered that proves the presence of a god in THIS universe, we cannot conclusively accept your theory as plausible. (Last Part ----->
@MexicoNativeAmerican: PART2/ Perhaps if a scientist (living in this universe, on planet Earth) discovers a way to create a parallel dimension, then maybe we can accept that our own universe/dimension could have possibly been created in the same way. But nevertheless, God, as defined as having no beggining, is an impossibility given that consciousness did not come before matter. I think the first living things in the first dimension came to fruition in the manner previously described by me.
@summercures2 Hey man...Maybe youre right and Im wrong. I just dont believe that science can answer everything because science is used to understand things about this place. If this place is just an experiment of God then we dont know anything about him. If I draw something on a paper will the drawing tell you about me? no it wont. maybe my example is stupid but you get what Im saying....
@ajmmii Well, a common argument FOR god is that the universe couldn't POSSIBLY have come into existence out of nothing.(Of course, this isn't the position of science, so far as SCIENCE can HAVE a position.) So, if we say that "EVERYTHING could not have come into existence w/out a creator, because it's just TOO MUCH/COMPLEX, etc.
So the rebuttal is "If we had to have a creator, then god, who's even MORE complex had to be created as well. See?
I think the belief in the existence of God goes a bit different. I don't think they say "God came from nothing" but rather "God always was" in the sense that he never started so the statement should be "God is" since the idea is that we experience time, but to him, time is present as is before time started and as is after time passes. Point is, your argument argue's an argument you made - a pretty easy one to defeat.
@RiskyMath: What exactly was God doing before he decided to create the universe? Was he just floating around in an empty dark void for an infinite amount of time? Suppose I had the chance to ask God how long he waited before creating the univere? Would he know the answer? Well the only way he could answer that question is by saying "I waited an infinite amount of time to create the universe." But that wouldn't make any sense. To say that he waited infinitely would mean he never got around to it.
@RiskyMath: Part 1/ I think I'm making sense. A god who has an infinite existence cannot START to take an action ...ie. start to create the universe. Why? Because a God with an infinite past would never be able to approach the point in time (I'll explain what "time" is in a moment) in which he creates the universe. Imagine a car that is sitting at the beggining of a road. Behind the beggining of the road is just dirt. The car wants to get from point A to B in the distance... (continue Part 2)
@RiskyMath: Part 2/ The car wants to get from point A to B. But, as a rule, the car MUST start from the beggining of the road. So now the car starts its engines but before it can move an inch, the road magically stretches out for 100 miles in the exact opposite direction. Given the rule, the car backs up all the way to the new beggining of the road. But as the car starts again, the road stretches out again. This goes on for infinity. Therfore,car will never reach point B. Kinda like God (PT 3 >>
@RiskyMath: Part 3/ And that's why God cannot start to take an action, such as creating the universe, bcuz he is infinitely beggining. ....Now u say that God existed prior to time. But that's not likely. Time is merely the comparison of 2 objects and there position and speed relative to one another. This is how humans were able to first grasp this concept (i.e the comparison of the Sun's speed and position to the Earth) and create a metric sytem for time. But God doesn't need to... (PT 4 >>
@RiskyMath: Part 4/ But God doesn't need any outside references to tell time because he is all-knowing. He should have always had time figured through out all of his existence. So if u ask God how much time he waited b4 creating the Univ, he would say that he waited an infinite amount of time which would mean he never did it. And since God has an infinite beggining, it means he never began. And something that never began doesnt exist. Therefore God doesnt exist. IDK how to make it clearer. (END)
Any question of time concerning God presupposes God is in time which the axiom excludes. The foundation of your argument is "God doesn't need any outside references to tell time because he is all-knowing." Before time started, there was no time to tell. I'll clear this up: the belief is God is eternal. Eternal = timeless or outside of time. You are confusing this idea with sempiternal = existing for infinite time. You're argument is moot.
Any question of time concerning God presupposes God is in time which the axiom excludes. The foundation of your argument is "God doesn't need any outside references to tell time because he is all-knowing." Before time started, there was no time to tell. I'll clear this up: the belief is God is eternal. Eternal = timeless or outside of time. You are confusing this idea with sempiternal = existing for infinite time. You're argument is moot.
@RiskyMath: PART1/ You say that God had no sense of time before time started. But he definitely had to THINK of creating time before actually creating it. But then how could God develop a sense of time if there was no time to tell to begin with? How can God say to himself "Hmmm I'm having dificulty telling time. So now I will create time." Makes no sense since he had no concept of time anyway. RiskyMath, now u have created an overall rule for God.... (Continue to PT2>>
@RiskyMath: PART 2/ Here's the rule for God that you have created. The rule is that God cannot create something that he has not first experienced. Could God create sound? No, because he hasn't yet heard anything. Could he create smell? No, because he hasn't yet smelt anything. Could God create light? No, becuase he has not yet seen anything. How about matter? No, because he has not yet experienced matter. ...God cannot create time because he can't tell time. He can't create anything
@summercures2 I'm sure I won't supply an adequate response, but 'before' as you are using it indicates time. 'Around' indicates space. The concept of preceding Matter-Space-Time can only be understood in an abstracted sense, and I'm not sure you're applying it correctly in your argument.
Your other stuff is funny though. Kinda' reminds me of the H2G2 argument for the non-existence of God. ref. wikiquote
@zenowing: I've never heard of the "H2G2 argument." But I guess I'm flattered that I managed to come up with something similar to it using my own logic.
@ajmmii Since god is such a complex being who wrote his software since software cant write it self according to you lmao. believing in god still doesn't answer anything just leaves room to the next question who created him so its a bad theory.
@lilsm555 I dont think its a bad theory (believing in God) because, we exist and everything around us exists, something had to create it. For us to ask something like "well who created God" is kind of ignorant because our human brain is NOT all knowing and I dont think is even capable of understanding something so complex like that, even if God himself tried to explain it to us in this body. You cant teach a squirrel to build a rocket, so why a human about the creation of existance?
A standing offensive military is the most outdated thing in policy next to the bible. soldiers who go to someone elses house and ruin their lives do not deserve the PEACE prize.
Also; "one liberal, socialist, anti-american point of view"
how is evolution liberal, its been around for 150 years. How is it socialist? the idea of the best able to adapt surviving lends itself more to an elitist culture.
how is it anti american? how does a scientific theory have any bearing on a country!?
Its simple. Want kids to learn creationism? Send them to sunday school. they can learn religion in church, just like they learn science in science class.
''Lightning striking a mud puddle'' is preposterous, but Gods breath bringing life to Adam and Eve in the garden...now that's a great alternative! Ben, You don't make an argument by promoting your own theory only by debunking another. These are two apes that didn't evolve.
he just said that evolutionists' answer to how life originated (which is already a dumb statement) is bunk that "wouldn't make sense to a small child".
so typical, so telling of the conservative religious mindset -- that the true test of scientific accuracy is whether or not it makes sense to a child.
"Evolutionists could be right, I'm not a scientist..." The end, now crawl back into your ignorant hole and go back to sleep. You quote mine Darwin's books and set up your non-sequiturs with filthy, vile, slanderous lies. Just like your retarded host Glenny the right wing tool. You two should be ashamed of yourselves, but are way too stupid to understand!
The reason professors can't present intelligent design is that there is no proof.
It's like teaching that witches and warlocks exist - there is no proof so you don't teach it.
Science has proven evolution - that is why they teach it.
Just because science can't explain everything does not mean there was a great deity behind it. God is what simpletons point to when they can't explain an event - similar to Indian's belief in Rain Gods hundreds of years ago.
@premarcrules Fossils are the remains of a once living organism (preserved by burial, a cast/mold, etc). Fossils can range to any species, and require specific conditions in order for them to be preserved/formed before the decay of the deceased creature.
I think you are a day late on the not wanting to burn forever. Pity my students? Funny, I got voted prof of the year by my medical students 2 years ago. Poor kids, someone should have told them that I don't know what constitutes evidence. LOL!!! The evidence of a deity is a large body of work over 2000 plus years, not an individual piece. In the end it will come down to reading and understanding your Bible coupled with personal experience. Altho u atheiotards will stomp there feet in denial
@drjackflash and saying "atehiotards" clearly proves your confidence that your argument can stand on its own. After all, people only insult other people when they are completely confident in their argument on its own merits.
@jamesthemaniac That's "atheiotards", not "atehiotards. Grammar 101 is on a different thread. And, it was in levity in response to all of the "creatard" comments on here. Take some time from your maniacal schedule James and read up on it.
Haha religious Americans as delightful as always!! Here you have two buddies rejecting science, and making me and other rational right wing people look stupid
@drjackflash As usual, another creotard. So why is it that you dont reveal us this evidence, Mr.Scientist? Go ahead. If it´s demonstrable evidence of gods excistence you´ll win a Nobel prize. How about writing a paper about your evidence and let other scientists test it over and over again, and see if it´s real evidence. But for now, could you please share this marvellous piece of evidence with us? And dont bother posting any bible verses, no one cares about those.
@enkeksinickia Once again, another name calling atheist. Why would someone win the Nobel Prize for revealing things that have been known for 2000 years? Who will be the judge to decide if its real evidence, you??? ROFL!!!!! Why dont you look at Dr James White's work. That will outline everything you need to know. You know, if you were less arrogant and a bit more educated maybe you would understand.
@drjackflash Wow! So you dont think that if there was REAL PROOF AND EVIDENCE of god, that everyone wouldnt believe in him. Of course they would, who wants to burn forever? No one! You claim to be a scientist but dont even understand what constitutes as evidence. I pity your students. When was this proof in any newspaper, science journal or news broadcast? I guess I missed that. If you gonna reply then PLEASE tell us what this proof is. You claim to know it, so share. I dont wanna burn forever.
@ajmmii Ohh, I´m sorry I didnt realize that you´re a creotard. Well then of course you are deleting comments, that´s the creationist way. I´m glad you even allow anyone commenting because in most of the creationist videos the comments and ratings are disabled. Good job!
@enkeksinickia You have no idea what your talking about, do you? Your deleted comment had nothing to do with creationism, evolution, intelligent, etc. You used a few select words that, well, require the good old delete key (ok, fine, remove button).
Its not the "creationist" way, its the FCC way. As far as I know, Youtube lacks certain basic comment filtering.
Also, I'm not a creotard, so stop apologizing for realizing things that aren't true.
Thomas Jefferson would be ashamed.......
thejack1212 2 weeks ago
cdesign proponentists
scarletharlot69 3 weeks ago
'how our kids are being force fed one liberal socialist anti amerikan point of view after another' talk about deluded
scarletharlot69 3 weeks ago
"cdesign proponentsists"
thats is all
pyr666 1 month ago
Darwinism is about how different species evolve, not so much man. What Mr. Stein is talking about is that different scientists are loosing their jobs saying there is a GOD, not just evolution. And as far as vaccines and viruses do evolve, because man is tormented by scientists thinking that the structure of man's DNA came from Eukarote bacteria, and man is not a microb. Man is made of tissue, Red blood cells and neurons that do not make up microbs. Evolution of animals is just that, animals.
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@Laidoutbug 'Education has never happened in recorded history' Lmaooo, evolution is happening right now... Why do you think the flu vaccines have to be changed so often? Because the virus is evolving, mutating in order to overcome the medicine. How else do you think diseases become resistant to treatment? They evolve!
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isbatmanasuperhero 3 months ago
Evolution has never happened in recorded history. If it had the question would be answered so it's most likely wrong.
Laidoutbug 3 months ago
How is evolution liberal or socialist?
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@JonLambert89 cuz its not in teh bible and cuz faux newz tellz u sooo derp a derp.
TrollyMcTrollerson69 2 months ago
"evolution struck a mudpuddle" My patience and tolerance for this idiot ran out riiight about then
CarlSagan6 4 months ago
Keep your book ! We don't want it !!!!!!
dave22h34 4 months ago
If you have the slightest clue about biology and Darwin you know how much nonsense they are talking.
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@spinolex Zero.
ajmmii 6 months ago
@ajmmii Zero? How about Darwin couldn't point to clear evidence of a species that came about due to evolution. That was his deal, all came from evolution. Read his origins of species and you will see that he is talking nonsense. Also Labelling some one an evolutionist and saying they dont know how life started, well that has nothing to do with evolution. Evolution deals with what happened after life started.
GumboWatches 5 months ago
There are Nylon eating bacteria. Eat it.
acount134 7 months ago
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Blackman1000ify 7 months ago
Ben Stein is a f***ing moron.
That's right, no intelligence. No intelligence was allowed at the set of his documentary.
June28July 7 months ago
"An answer that wouldn't make sense to a small child"? Neither would basically any scientific theory or law. Infact I can't think of any scientific theory or law that the average adult knows anything about except the very very basic simplified layman's slightly lying to make more easy to understand version.
9hello123 8 months ago
Religious superstitious nonsense from two guys who are clueless about evolutionary theory.
ndrthrdr1 8 months ago
and as we all know reality has a well known liberal bias...
types10000 8 months ago 2
teachers shouldnt have tenure
FutureUnleashed 8 months ago
Yes there is a secret conspiracy by universities and the scientific community to prove god does not exist and to bring the NWO to power so we can all go to hell. Yeah sure Ben Stein. Btw, of course Darwin didn't explain how life emerged out of non-living structures. That''s abiogenesis not evolution, that's not where his theory was about. So is Newton's theory bad because it didn't explain what atom's where?
dekippiesip 8 months ago
isn't there separation of church and state?
tokyoisawesome 8 months ago
@tokyoisawesome In the Constitution? No.
ajmmii 8 months ago
@ajmmii that statement is inaccurate, "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof;" -First Amendment
All religion is to be treated equally, and not in any way be involved in the government.
They wrote this in, because of the artificial power that the church held in Europe and specifically in England. This measure was to prevent the church from dominating the people, instead the people could choose to believe as they wish.
WillWoodruffStuff 3 months ago
Oh, Ben Stein you poor uninformed fool. You associate yourself with the Nazi admirer and denouce evolution. You poor uninformed fool.
Blackman1000ify 8 months ago
@Blackman1000ify Who is the Nazi admirer?
And, how can you side with a Nazi admirer yet reject the rationale behind Nazism?
ajmmii 8 months ago
@ajmmii Oh come on, can't you see the signs. Glenn Beck is the Nazi Admirer. He won't shut up about what the Nazis or Hitler did. He mentions the stuff all the time. And Ben Stein is unaware of that.
Blackman1000ify 8 months ago
@ajmmii Considering the way that every subject he discusses and disagrees with almost immediately -- within 30 to 180 seconds -- succumbs to Godwin's Law, he is obviously compensating for some level of Nazi sympathy in much the same way that closet homosexuals compensate for their sexual insecurity by exhibiting extreme bigotry towards homosexuals and women.
MultiPaulinator 4 months ago
@Blackman1000ify
evolution is UNPROVEN NONSENSE that was used as propaganda by communists like Stalin and Mao for decades!!!
Its also used (as well as creationism) to hide our true source of origin (ancient genetic engineering)
Both evolution and creationism FAIL at epic levels.
The DNA evidence and fossil record both show evidence of genetic manipulation and that is FACT
buffboynick 8 months ago
@buffboynick No, its not, you insane crackpot! The Ancient Alien theory that you're alluding to hasn't been proven and isn't fact. The genes could only evolve not be manipulated. That was when early human beings were crawling out of the mud. Now accept the truth, you crazy, conspiracy-theory loving S.O.B.!
Blackman1000ify 7 months ago
@Blackman1000ify
Total BULLSHIT from another member of the religious CULT of Darwinism.
No shared ancestors exist__FACT
No CHLCA exists (type in CHLCA on Wikipedia) for an explanation
Homo Sapiens havent "magically mutated" into a NEW species since we first appeared 200,000 years ago_FACT
Both the fossil record and DNA evidence DISPROVE evolution__FACT
NEW species emerge in the fossil record with no SOURCE of origin (no shared ancestors) and DNA similarities = gene hybridization
OWNED ;)
buffboynick 7 months ago
@buffboynick Alright before I give my response to your allegation, I'd just like to ask if evolution isn't true which it is if you pay close attention 2 natural history and genetics what do you believe then? Please inform me.
Blackman1000ify 7 months ago
@Blackman1000ify
Both the fossil record and the DNA evidence show more evidence of gene hybridization, gene modification, gene removal (all known as genetic engineering)
That is the ONLY explanation of the INCREASING COMPLEXITY of all organisms on Earth (which even Darwinists admit by the way)
and the ONLY explanation of where NEW species come from and why there is no traceable source of origin in the fossil record
Some hybridization (Ligers) occurs in the wild while most is done in a LAB
buffboynick 7 months ago
Okay, here's where your wrong. There was no entity out there 2 genetically engineer anything millions of years ago. Everything that happened in that time occurred in nature and was unplanned. The technology needed 2 alter anything via eugenics wasn't available or even invented at the time. What you're asserting is science fiction that's not supported in fact nor study. Now the liger & hybrid thing that's true but the ancient genetic engineering thing, no not all. We evolved from apes.
Blackman1000ify 7 months ago
@Blackman1000ify
LOL, you claim to know what was here "2 million years ago"
This 3rd dimension (estimated to be around 14 BILLION years old according to Earth science) isnt even the only dimension to exist__FACT
How do I know multiple dimensions exist? Because ours has a timeline (meaning it isnt eternal)
That means our universe (3rd dimension) was formed do to something that occurred in an upper dimension.
Evolution is DISPROVED by simple logic. No NEW species come from pre-existing ones!
buffboynick 7 months ago
@Blackman1000ify
As for alien genetic engineering evidence......
The LIST of proof is so long that I dont have enough space in this comment!!! Just view my channel, the links, the videos, and the info.
Thats why there are so many global UFO sightings and surgical mutilations done all over Earth. They arent here to watch the grass grow!!
They do experiments, that's what they do. These few us as lab specimens and were involved in terraforming this planet BEFORE the dinosaurs existed!!!
buffboynick 7 months ago
@buffboynick You know what? I just might check it out only because I think the idea of Ancient Aliens is pretty cool and the show based on the concept is pretty kickass but in all fairness its not proved as of yet. So Okay.
Blackman1000ify 7 months ago
@Blackman1000ify
You should because evolution and creationism are both the same thing (think about it)
Panspermia and Ancient Astronaut Theory are the furtherest things from Christianity, Creationism, and Darwinism there is.
Thats why religious nuts say "alien are demons, no aliens exist"
This a lie though, because its MATHEMATICALLY IMPOSSIBLE that alien dont exist in a universe that is INFINITE in size (according to the largest scale model of the universe "the millenium simulation")
buffboynick 7 months ago
@buffboynick I know. The possiblity that there are aliens out there are pretty decent. Its not worth dismissing so immediately. That and it would explain world religions. I swear to god, I can't stand the bullcrap religious people say espiecially the Christians. Dude, you ever notice how arrogant those bastards act to agnostics or atheists? That would be funny if they did worship aliens. You're alright buffboynick.
Blackman1000ify 7 months ago
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@Blackman1000ify
They do worship aliens lol.
In fact....I will send you a video personally that proves it.
You should checkout my channel. You will LOVE it.
Organized religions are "dumbed down" versions of "some" truth.
They are half-truths, mixed with lies, misinterpretations, and alien deceptions.
Mary "immaculate conception" (impregnated by a being from another world)
That ^ is the same story as countless abductees. I will send you 2 VERY good videos.
buffboynick 7 months ago
@buffboynick I saw it and I don't buy it. Its just too science-fictiony.
Blackman1000ify 6 months ago
@buffboynick Wow, you are dumb. You're basically just a human leech at this point, using up precious energy and oxygen that actual rational and intelligent beings could use to help benefit and better humanity. Please choke on a cheeseburger or some other American "delicatesse".
lebannerfan65 7 months ago
@Blackman1000ify
I am sorry to burst your bubble friend. But it was evolution's theory of "survival of the fittest" combined with the eugenics doctrine of genetic purity, that the Nazi's used to justify they extermination of people's deemed unfit to live, gays, blacks, Jehovah's Witnesses, Jews.
Without Darwinism and Evolution you lose have the justification for the holocaust.
ViCe1986 2 weeks ago
@ViCe1986 Its easy to say that Darwin caused the Holocaust, but in all fairness, its not right or fair. That's like saying the Wright Brothers were responsible for 9/11 because they invented the plane. Should we excuse Hitler and the Nazis for what they did because of the ideas they had? Of course not, wrong is wrong. Personal responsibilty has to come into play here. Hitler knew what he did. Hitler even without Darwin's theory would have said and done anything to justify his actions.
Blackman1000ify 2 weeks ago
This guy is a boob!
lolzord720 8 months ago
yes "defend your kids against the professors" to make sure they learn absolutely nothing and fail out
mbglosser 9 months ago
"...it's a BS answer. It's an answer that wouldn't make sense to a small child. It's not a real answer." One of the most ignorant statements that I have ever heard, adults cannot fathom all of the workings of the universe, let alone a child.
MECHAunitAMH1 9 months ago
Just because Ben Stein played a science teacher in Farris Buller does not mean he knows anything. Why do we let these idiots on TV?
theviolator23 9 months ago
Stein when asked what atheist think about origin of life "They dont have an answer.. well they do but its a bs answer, it wouldnt make sense to a small child, its not a real answer." So acording to stein, the only real answers out there are ones that little children understand??? lol... I used to have respect for stein when people would try to win his money, but with stupid comments like that Id sooner flush em down a toilet.
josmc1 9 months ago
I wouldn't call Glenn Beck or Ben Stein an intelligent design. Hey that rhymed! Oh that too! Now it ended.. ;(
killsourenemy 9 months ago
I believe in intelligent design myself. But it is not science. Not even if it is delivered in a relatively academic way is it science.
ID does not need to be taught in science classes and evolution does not need to be taught in Sunday school..
SSArcher11 9 months ago
@SSArcher11 If you believe in intelligent design, then do you believe in big foot? spaghetti monster? If not, why? They have just as much merit as a GOD does.. think about it.. I dont understand how people with a normal functioning brain can believe in such ancient fairytales
josmc1 9 months ago
@josmc1 ignorance
LaurenNRI 9 months ago
@LaurenNRI Nah, what's ignorant is that we live in a world with religion that has not one ounce of truth attached to it. We continue to live our lives based on books that were written thousands of years ago by people who had little to no comprehension on how the universe/planets work and were just looking for an understand of the universe. Well guess what, we have less crackpot theories out there to believe in that make sense other than magic man in the sky. Wake up people...
josmc1 9 months ago
we dont know how life started we cant know everything, but equating it to god must have made it is stupid, it would be like if you couldn't get a math problem so you just say the answer is 7 someone would ask you cant prove its 7 they would say to you ya but you don't have any answer because you cant figure out the equation so im just going to say its 7. , NOTHING should be taught in school about the very origins of life BECAUSE NO ONE KNOWS
achammer 9 months ago
Haha "you don't have to take my word for it" You can take this nutjobs instead wow your so open minded Beck.
oliversenord 9 months ago
wow. just wow. Creationism is not a side! There is NO evidence...nothing! These two are genuinely insane.
JJPCinema 9 months ago
LIKE IF YOU WERE BORED AND SEARCHED BEN STEIN!!!!!
iluvpoliticzz 10 months ago
The claim that the largly assumed scientific explanation for the creation of life is a lightning strike to "mud" is obvious propagandal That is not what science says at all. It was a long and complicated prosess that started with some divided cells who joined up and a billoin years you have us. Although random, that sounds to me a lot more logical than some guy creating things from nothing for six days.
TonyHall92 10 months ago
ben stein = idiot
ANYONEMusiC 10 months ago
he's comparing his book to the bible?!!
michiganfan51 10 months ago
@michiganfan51 No, not really. He's just joking around.
ajmmii 10 months ago
@ajmmii Yeah.... no he isn't
audallas841 8 months ago
Letsflogthezog....thanks for correcting my error while I was typing to fast and forgot to go over what I wrote. Wow you must be highly educated thanks again!
MGiants82 10 months ago
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ajmmii 10 months ago
There is NO science v christian (you should be saying at least mono deism)
Science explains how GOD did it. And is still doing creation.
Ben you are a smarter man then that. Glenn you are a "commentator" soo! OK
Ben look at the Torah (Old Testament) again and other Good Books, there is a metaphorical, if nothing else, relationship to the creation.
BIG BAND - "LET THERE BE LIGHT" just for starters.
willholl69 10 months ago
@willholl69 *Facepalm* Science is something of its own. It is in no way connected to religion.
panamanian911 10 months ago
Wow, he thinks his book is almost as good as the Bible, someone has an ego problem!
philosophizer149 11 months ago
@philosophizer149 I guess not everyone can realize an obvious joke is ... well, a joke.
ajmmii 11 months ago
@philosophizer149 bible is a nice fairy tale i give you that
Severosrighthook 10 months ago
@philosophizer149 he is just emphasizing that it's a good read.
LaurenNRI 9 months ago
i AM 100% BEHIND ben !
secrets1111 11 months ago
A battle of the pinhead idiots. Ben Stein and Glen Beck!
somethingdiffereable 11 months ago
The soldiers you are using to make yourself look ethical defend a place where you can go to public school as a christian or nonchristian and have an equal education. There is more to the creation argument than christian vs. science and to act as if that is the current problem undermines the very reason our country was founded. I like you better on comedy central when I was a kid, you're not smart enough to do anything real
xXneverstopXx 11 months ago
@xXneverstopXx 1. Just because its not thr main issue doesn't mean it shouldn't be discussed
2. Yes, it is not just christian vs science. Its just pure science.
ajmmii 11 months ago
@ajmmii no creationism is theology not science. if there is no scientific evidence for something whats the point in bringing it up in a scientific discussion, why not bring up the loch ness monster or ghosts?
FightTh3P0wer 9 months ago
/watch?v=6OXKhbk4iJ4 , watch the whole truth about Glen Beck . I think you guys didnt know this ...
phmgaming 11 months ago
Exactly Ben, your not a scientist, and your saying on national tv that evolution is a joke.
MGiants82 11 months ago
Science is the study of Gods Creation. if you dont understand this then you dont even know what Science is. thumb up if you agree
coolvideo28 11 months ago
:58 Parodies need not be deliberate. Conservative ideology is conspicuously silly in many ways.
SSJ3Ulcer 11 months ago
BEHOLD THE ATHEIST!!!
Nautilus987 11 months ago
just because these talking-heads aren't smart enough to understand evolution or emergence of life DOES NOT mean "oh yeah we don't know... so let's see, the easiest way to explain this is, god did it"
admittedly, scientist do not yet claim to know how life emerged on earth or what proceeded the big bang. they have several hypotheses that are rigorously being tested.
scientist do claim, though, that there is no evidence able to refute the theory of evolution or the big band therory...
mdapper666 11 months ago
"All matter is merely energy condensed to a slow vibration, we are all one consciousness experiencing itself subjectively, there is no such thing as dead, life is only a dream and we are the imagination of ourselves." -Bill Hicks
dvq 11 months ago
If you read an Objective history of Christainity, which if you are a true Christian, do not do it, it really makes you realize it is......political in its orgin. That said, if it makes you a better person, i am all for it.
enverpasha55 11 months ago
"They have an answer that would make sense to a small child".
Poor glenn
Trollercopter 1 year ago
Nylon eating bacteria originated after the invention of nylon. Evolution evidence numero uno! Christians think Women are made from ribs. I'd rather go with Darwin on this one.
If you are allowed to teach intelligent design in a science calssroom, then you also have to let in the other crazies too. Intelligent design promoters wouldn't want me saying life came from a pink fairy living on Mars but its ok if i say their sky fairy did it all?! hypocrisy!
checkyoursources 1 year ago
You are kicked out of the scientific community for teach creationism/ID for the same way that you are kicked out for teaching astrology
Just because something isn't understood by a small child doesn't mean it is BS, does a small child understand how a jet engine works NO
Todda468 1 year ago
You are kicked out of the scientific community for teach creationism/ID for the same way that you are kicked out for teaching astrology
Todda468 1 year ago
I wouldn't normally comment on discourse such as I've read in the comments here. However, regardless of your beliefs, theories, teachings, whatever... I recommend Gerald L. Schroeder's "The Hidden Face Of God" (2001). Not an easy read, although it IS funny in places. No dogma at all. I read it (twice) because it was written by a man of science, presenting proven scientific facts, insisting that you draw your own conclusions therefrom. Very compelling, if either of you have the nerve to read it.
TheOldGrady 1 year ago
Do Jews believe in hell? I think it's only in the Old Testament like once, and I can't remember hearing any Jewish people TALKING about it.
Anyway, point is that if god DOES exist, then he knows that you are LYING IN THIS INTERVIEW, you LIED IN THAT MOVIE, and YOU LIE EVERY TIME YOU SPEAK ABOUT THIS, Mr. Stein. You're ALSO misleading people who trust you. If god exists, then he sees what you're doing, sir, and you will have your day at the scale; will YOU be found wanting, Ben?
matThaHatter 1 year ago
"If the answer doesn't make sense to a small child its not a real answer to the question of how life began"
Really Ben?
I mean.. Really?
lobsterman91 1 year ago
Intelligent Design = Creationism with more politically correct language.
Soulfunk89 1 year ago 9
@Soulfunk89 I think the fly spaghetti monster would take issue with your illogical statement. Don't worry though, your just one of many people that doesn't have a clue about Intelligent Design.
ajmmii 1 year ago
@ajmmii
What's illogical about it??? Intelligent design follows the principals of creation from conscious forces. God pretty much. So I don't really understand what you're trying to say.
Soulfunk89 1 year ago
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Soulfunk89 1 year ago
@ajmmii Methinks it's YOU who doesn't know about intelligent design, what with gobbledy-gook like THAT! Go ask Dembski how information theory applies to DAT, yo!
matThaHatter 1 year ago
Everything in the universe reacts to the surrounding enviroment. So if something appears to be "intelligently designed", then that is only because that complex organism is the result of millions of years of adaptation to the enviroment. It didn't all just happen in a flash. It's very gradual. One atom joined with others to create a piece of matter. Then to different pieces of matter, originating from diff enviroments, came together to make a chemical reaction. That created a cell and so forth..
summercures2 1 year ago
@summercures2 I had to let my friend the other day know that software doesn't write itself.
ajmmii 1 year ago
@ajmmii: Exactly. Software can't write itself. So I wonder why some people think that a highly complex god could have just came into existence out of nowhere. ...If someone is willing to believe that god came out of nowhere, then why not also consider the possibility that the big bang just came out of nowhere (or started in a way that we human beings have yet to scientifically figure out)?
summercures2 1 year ago
@summercures2 who thinks God came into existence out of nowhere?
ajmmii 1 year ago
@summercures2 Who thinks God came out of nowhere? I know at least Christians don't believe that, so who?
ajmmii 1 year ago
@ajmmii: I used to be a Christian from 11 years old til 18. In my church, I've never heard anyone assume that they knew how God came into existence. Their only explanation was that God never began and that he just always has been in existence. For me, this was an insufficient explanation. Now it seems like you, ajmmii, are a Christian and might have something more substantiative to say about the matter. Will u offer your explanation of how God came to be?
summercures2 1 year ago
@summercures2 I dont think its a bad theory (believing in God) because, we exist and everything around us exists, something had to create it. For us to ask something like "well who created God" is kind of ignorant because our human brain is NOT all knowing and I dont think is even capable of understanding something so complex like that, even if God himself tried to explain it to us in this body. You cant teach a squirrel to build a rocket, so why a human about the creation of existance?
MexicoNativeAmerican 1 year ago
@MexicoNativeAmerican: The reason why I ask "who created God?" is because, if God created the universe, then that must mean that God is far more complex than the universe itself. So if ur argument for creation is that the universe is too complex to just come out of nothing, then u must also ask how an even much more complex God came out of nothing. ...Although I cant grasp how the universe initially got started, I sure can comprehend how it came to b how it is today without a god to "create" it.
summercures2 1 year ago
@summercures2 I agree with you that its hard to believe that something like God could have just poofed into existence. But again, were thinking according to what we know about existence. Take into consideration that things like time,matter,space, thoughts,emotions etc... are things of this world. Maybe this things dont apply to God in his. God didnt have to come from anywhere because things like time and space dont apply to him, he made them up for this world. I used to be an atheist.
MexicoNativeAmerican 1 year ago
@MexicoNativeAmerican: Part 1/ If u say that things such as time, matter, and space do not apply to God, then what you're really saying is that God doesn't exist. Take the Tooth Fairy for example; the fairy doesn't have any matter and therefore it can neither take up space nor move around in it and thus can neither be measured with time. Therefore, the Tooth Fairy cant exist. However, science was able to prove atoms, for instance, exist because they exist in T, M, & Space (conitnue to PART 2)
summercures2 1 year ago
@MexicoNativeAmerican: PART2/Furhtermore, I think that psychological science pretty much proves that matter came before consciousness. Therefore a conscious being could not have been around prior to matter existing. Our brains are a very complex piece of matter that contains billions of nuerons,dendrites, synapses, chemicals, minerals, nerves, and and even electricity. The complexity of our brains merely gives us the illusion that our Self is seperate from our body. But our brain is just matter.
summercures2 1 year ago
@summercures2 I understand what your saying but I dont believe that matter came before consciousness, in this case God. I dont believe human beings are capable of understanding this. Everything we know is just made up, its a reality that we were put in. We have no idea what God is. Trying to understand how the universe (matter, etc.)works isnt going to tell us why or how God is there. We live in this universe so its all we know, which means that we only know and understand so much....
MexicoNativeAmerican 1 year ago
@MexicoNativeAmerican: PART1/You said "...I dont believe that matter came before consciousness." What you have to understand is that all living things have organs that are used for consciously sensing the world around them. Take humans for example; we have noses to smell, eyes for seeing, ears to hear, tongues for tasting, and billions of nerves in our bodies for feeling & touch. And our brains operate via these organs to consciously experience the enviroment around us. ...(Conitinue to Part 2)
summercures2 1 year ago
@MexicoNativeAmerican: PART2/ Now given that the brain can only allow a living thing to be conscious of its enviroment via the sensory organs, how is the brain to operate with no enviroment at all? What I'm saying is that if God began with no existing enviroment around him/her, just darkness, how can his alleged consciousness percieve to do anything at all without a physical body equiped with a sense of smell, touch, sight, taste, or hearing? ...(Conitnue to last Part)
summercures2 1 year ago
@MexicoNativeAmerican: PART3/ I think that any living thing initially existing in an enviroment devoid of matter,light, and sound would seriously be at an intellectual disadvantage to be doing any creating. I think that an already existing enviroment is the basis for the most ant-like intelligence. In the beggining I think light,atoms,matter,minerals,liquids,dusts, and varying temperatures gave rise to living things. The complexity of it is a testament to the trillions of years of development.
summercures2 1 year ago
@summercures2 dude your not understanding what Im saying. This place were in (universe) isnt everything there is. Its just a creation of God. No matter how much we know about his creation will tell us anything about God.
God didnt have to have be created to exist and we cant understand why, because we only know of things from this place. Matter,time,space etc. arent everything. If God exist then he made them up. Our way of thinking is this theres a beggining and end. why? ans. universe
MexicoNativeAmerican 1 year ago
@MexicoNativeAmerican: PART1/First of all, I think I effectively explained why consciousness did not come before matter. However, that does not mean that some highly evolved being, living in a seperate universe (dimension), couldn't have created this universe (perhaps using some advanced software as in the Matrix). But, given that there is no evidence so far discovered that proves the presence of a god in THIS universe, we cannot conclusively accept your theory as plausible. (Last Part ----->
summercures2 1 year ago
@MexicoNativeAmerican: PART2/ Perhaps if a scientist (living in this universe, on planet Earth) discovers a way to create a parallel dimension, then maybe we can accept that our own universe/dimension could have possibly been created in the same way. But nevertheless, God, as defined as having no beggining, is an impossibility given that consciousness did not come before matter. I think the first living things in the first dimension came to fruition in the manner previously described by me.
summercures2 1 year ago
@summercures2 Hey man...Maybe youre right and Im wrong. I just dont believe that science can answer everything because science is used to understand things about this place. If this place is just an experiment of God then we dont know anything about him. If I draw something on a paper will the drawing tell you about me? no it wont. maybe my example is stupid but you get what Im saying....
MexicoNativeAmerican 1 year ago
@ajmmii Well, a common argument FOR god is that the universe couldn't POSSIBLY have come into existence out of nothing.(Of course, this isn't the position of science, so far as SCIENCE can HAVE a position.) So, if we say that "EVERYTHING could not have come into existence w/out a creator, because it's just TOO MUCH/COMPLEX, etc.
So the rebuttal is "If we had to have a creator, then god, who's even MORE complex had to be created as well. See?
matThaHatter 1 year ago
@summercures2
I write software that writes software :-)
RiskyMath 11 months ago
@RiskyMath: hmmm I guess that's cool : )
summercures2 11 months ago
@summercures2
I think the belief in the existence of God goes a bit different. I don't think they say "God came from nothing" but rather "God always was" in the sense that he never started so the statement should be "God is" since the idea is that we experience time, but to him, time is present as is before time started and as is after time passes. Point is, your argument argue's an argument you made - a pretty easy one to defeat.
RiskyMath 8 months ago
@RiskyMath: What exactly was God doing before he decided to create the universe? Was he just floating around in an empty dark void for an infinite amount of time? Suppose I had the chance to ask God how long he waited before creating the univere? Would he know the answer? Well the only way he could answer that question is by saying "I waited an infinite amount of time to create the universe." But that wouldn't make any sense. To say that he waited infinitely would mean he never got around to it.
summercures2 8 months ago
@summercures2
Again, you are arguing amiss... The premise excludes your question from making sense to start.
RiskyMath 8 months ago
@RiskyMath: Part 1/ I think I'm making sense. A god who has an infinite existence cannot START to take an action ...ie. start to create the universe. Why? Because a God with an infinite past would never be able to approach the point in time (I'll explain what "time" is in a moment) in which he creates the universe. Imagine a car that is sitting at the beggining of a road. Behind the beggining of the road is just dirt. The car wants to get from point A to B in the distance... (continue Part 2)
summercures2 8 months ago
@RiskyMath: Part 2/ The car wants to get from point A to B. But, as a rule, the car MUST start from the beggining of the road. So now the car starts its engines but before it can move an inch, the road magically stretches out for 100 miles in the exact opposite direction. Given the rule, the car backs up all the way to the new beggining of the road. But as the car starts again, the road stretches out again. This goes on for infinity. Therfore,car will never reach point B. Kinda like God (PT 3 >>
summercures2 8 months ago
@RiskyMath: Part 3/ And that's why God cannot start to take an action, such as creating the universe, bcuz he is infinitely beggining. ....Now u say that God existed prior to time. But that's not likely. Time is merely the comparison of 2 objects and there position and speed relative to one another. This is how humans were able to first grasp this concept (i.e the comparison of the Sun's speed and position to the Earth) and create a metric sytem for time. But God doesn't need to... (PT 4 >>
summercures2 8 months ago
@RiskyMath: Part 4/ But God doesn't need any outside references to tell time because he is all-knowing. He should have always had time figured through out all of his existence. So if u ask God how much time he waited b4 creating the Univ, he would say that he waited an infinite amount of time which would mean he never did it. And since God has an infinite beggining, it means he never began. And something that never began doesnt exist. Therefore God doesnt exist. IDK how to make it clearer. (END)
summercures2 8 months ago
Any question of time concerning God presupposes God is in time which the axiom excludes. The foundation of your argument is "God doesn't need any outside references to tell time because he is all-knowing." Before time started, there was no time to tell. I'll clear this up: the belief is God is eternal. Eternal = timeless or outside of time. You are confusing this idea with sempiternal = existing for infinite time. You're argument is moot.
RiskyMath 8 months ago
@summercures2 (seems I posted elsewhere, in case)
Any question of time concerning God presupposes God is in time which the axiom excludes. The foundation of your argument is "God doesn't need any outside references to tell time because he is all-knowing." Before time started, there was no time to tell. I'll clear this up: the belief is God is eternal. Eternal = timeless or outside of time. You are confusing this idea with sempiternal = existing for infinite time. You're argument is moot.
RiskyMath 8 months ago
@RiskyMath: PART1/ You say that God had no sense of time before time started. But he definitely had to THINK of creating time before actually creating it. But then how could God develop a sense of time if there was no time to tell to begin with? How can God say to himself "Hmmm I'm having dificulty telling time. So now I will create time." Makes no sense since he had no concept of time anyway. RiskyMath, now u have created an overall rule for God.... (Continue to PT2>>
summercures2 8 months ago
@RiskyMath: PART 2/ Here's the rule for God that you have created. The rule is that God cannot create something that he has not first experienced. Could God create sound? No, because he hasn't yet heard anything. Could he create smell? No, because he hasn't yet smelt anything. Could God create light? No, becuase he has not yet seen anything. How about matter? No, because he has not yet experienced matter. ...God cannot create time because he can't tell time. He can't create anything
summercures2 8 months ago
@summercures2 I'm sure I won't supply an adequate response, but 'before' as you are using it indicates time. 'Around' indicates space. The concept of preceding Matter-Space-Time can only be understood in an abstracted sense, and I'm not sure you're applying it correctly in your argument.
Your other stuff is funny though. Kinda' reminds me of the H2G2 argument for the non-existence of God. ref. wikiquote
zenowing 8 months ago
@zenowing: I've never heard of the "H2G2 argument." But I guess I'm flattered that I managed to come up with something similar to it using my own logic.
summercures2 8 months ago
@ajmmii Since god is such a complex being who wrote his software since software cant write it self according to you lmao. believing in god still doesn't answer anything just leaves room to the next question who created him so its a bad theory.
lilsm555 1 year ago
@lilsm555 I dont think its a bad theory (believing in God) because, we exist and everything around us exists, something had to create it. For us to ask something like "well who created God" is kind of ignorant because our human brain is NOT all knowing and I dont think is even capable of understanding something so complex like that, even if God himself tried to explain it to us in this body. You cant teach a squirrel to build a rocket, so why a human about the creation of existance?
MexicoNativeAmerican 1 year ago
Glen Beck is one of america's leading racists, he is a member of the Mormon Church which was officially racist until 1978.
beradification 1 year ago
A standing offensive military is the most outdated thing in policy next to the bible. soldiers who go to someone elses house and ruin their lives do not deserve the PEACE prize.
Also; "one liberal, socialist, anti-american point of view"
how is evolution liberal, its been around for 150 years. How is it socialist? the idea of the best able to adapt surviving lends itself more to an elitist culture.
how is it anti american? how does a scientific theory have any bearing on a country!?
HighFlyActionGuy 1 year ago
This is messed up. Early single cell life looks nothing like what we have now. "Darwinism" is not a church.
Stein says it himself, "im not a scientist" and it shows in the fact that he has no idea what the hell is going on.
HighFlyActionGuy 1 year ago
soldiers shouldve won the nobel peace prize...?
neddomac 1 year ago
Its simple. Want kids to learn creationism? Send them to sunday school. they can learn religion in church, just like they learn science in science class.
jamesthemaniac 1 year ago 17
I had NO idea how truly deluded Ben Stein was, until now, thanks for posting this.
IndexFossil1 1 year ago
''Lightning striking a mud puddle'' is preposterous, but Gods breath bringing life to Adam and Eve in the garden...now that's a great alternative! Ben, You don't make an argument by promoting your own theory only by debunking another. These are two apes that didn't evolve.
IndexFossil1 1 year ago
@knobcheese22 Hmmm, another comment to be... DELETED!!!
ajmmii 1 year ago
he just said that evolutionists' answer to how life originated (which is already a dumb statement) is bunk that "wouldn't make sense to a small child".
so typical, so telling of the conservative religious mindset -- that the true test of scientific accuracy is whether or not it makes sense to a child.
jemgrrargh 1 year ago
Two idiots
adiosucks123 1 year ago
"Evolutionists could be right, I'm not a scientist..." The end, now crawl back into your ignorant hole and go back to sleep. You quote mine Darwin's books and set up your non-sequiturs with filthy, vile, slanderous lies. Just like your retarded host Glenny the right wing tool. You two should be ashamed of yourselves, but are way too stupid to understand!
dwolfcoach 1 year ago
it's funny when creationists complain about indoctrination
derrixk 1 year ago
The reason professors can't present intelligent design is that there is no proof.
It's like teaching that witches and warlocks exist - there is no proof so you don't teach it.
Science has proven evolution - that is why they teach it.
Just because science can't explain everything does not mean there was a great deity behind it. God is what simpletons point to when they can't explain an event - similar to Indian's belief in Rain Gods hundreds of years ago.
TheSnoopy1750 1 year ago
For dry red eyes, clear eyes is awesome. It removes redness and has ingredients that moisturize. Wow.
naruto4100 1 year ago 2
2:11 looks like Fox News has some trouble spelling, "criticzed"
TomR0909 1 year ago
@TomR0909 Actually, thats CNN.
ajmmii 1 year ago 2
@ajmmii Liberals are too stupid to realize he used to be on CNN.
richardmorrison78 1 year ago
blind leading the blind
DoctorWong1979 1 year ago
This was a joke, right? Real simple for the Adam and Eve freaks....explain fossils.
premarcrules 1 year ago
@premarcrules Fossils are the remains of a once living organism (preserved by burial, a cast/mold, etc). Fossils can range to any species, and require specific conditions in order for them to be preserved/formed before the decay of the deceased creature.
ajmmii 1 year ago
@premarcrules Less than 45 years of bones being crammed against nature/dirt...
Chareb94 1 year ago
Gleen beck is gay. I've got an great gaydar and I am positive.
bendernet 1 year ago
I think you are a day late on the not wanting to burn forever. Pity my students? Funny, I got voted prof of the year by my medical students 2 years ago. Poor kids, someone should have told them that I don't know what constitutes evidence. LOL!!! The evidence of a deity is a large body of work over 2000 plus years, not an individual piece. In the end it will come down to reading and understanding your Bible coupled with personal experience. Altho u atheiotards will stomp there feet in denial
drjackflash 1 year ago
@drjackflash One is only a day late when one is dead.
ajmmii 1 year ago
@drjackflash and saying "atehiotards" clearly proves your confidence that your argument can stand on its own. After all, people only insult other people when they are completely confident in their argument on its own merits.
jamesthemaniac 1 year ago
@jamesthemaniac That's "atheiotards", not "atehiotards. Grammar 101 is on a different thread. And, it was in levity in response to all of the "creatard" comments on here. Take some time from your maniacal schedule James and read up on it.
drjackflash 1 year ago
Haha religious Americans as delightful as always!! Here you have two buddies rejecting science, and making me and other rational right wing people look stupid
REVOLITY 1 year ago
@enkeksinickia There has been plenty of evidence you choose to discredit or deny. As usual, another bathroom scientist.
drjackflash 1 year ago
@drjackflash As usual, another creotard. So why is it that you dont reveal us this evidence, Mr.Scientist? Go ahead. If it´s demonstrable evidence of gods excistence you´ll win a Nobel prize. How about writing a paper about your evidence and let other scientists test it over and over again, and see if it´s real evidence. But for now, could you please share this marvellous piece of evidence with us? And dont bother posting any bible verses, no one cares about those.
enkeksinickia 1 year ago
@enkeksinickia Once again, another name calling atheist. Why would someone win the Nobel Prize for revealing things that have been known for 2000 years? Who will be the judge to decide if its real evidence, you??? ROFL!!!!! Why dont you look at Dr James White's work. That will outline everything you need to know. You know, if you were less arrogant and a bit more educated maybe you would understand.
drjackflash 1 year ago
@drjackflash Wow! So you dont think that if there was REAL PROOF AND EVIDENCE of god, that everyone wouldnt believe in him. Of course they would, who wants to burn forever? No one! You claim to be a scientist but dont even understand what constitutes as evidence. I pity your students. When was this proof in any newspaper, science journal or news broadcast? I guess I missed that. If you gonna reply then PLEASE tell us what this proof is. You claim to know it, so share. I dont wanna burn forever.
enkeksinickia 1 year ago
@enkeksinickia Hmm, I see 4 "Please delete my comment" in there. I shall grant you your request. DELETED!!!
ajmmii 1 year ago
@ajmmii WHAT? Who wanted to delete my comment. You? Someone else?
Go ahead if it makes you feel better!
enkeksinickia 1 year ago
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enkeksinickia 1 year ago
@ajmmii Ohh, I´m sorry I didnt realize that you´re a creotard. Well then of course you are deleting comments, that´s the creationist way. I´m glad you even allow anyone commenting because in most of the creationist videos the comments and ratings are disabled. Good job!
enkeksinickia 1 year ago
@enkeksinickia You have no idea what your talking about, do you? Your deleted comment had nothing to do with creationism, evolution, intelligent, etc. You used a few select words that, well, require the good old delete key (ok, fine, remove button).
Its not the "creationist" way, its the FCC way. As far as I know, Youtube lacks certain basic comment filtering.
Also, I'm not a creotard, so stop apologizing for realizing things that aren't true.
ajmmii 1 year ago