@motdef Ever get the glitch where 90% of the NPCs in the game world start spinning or "walking around" without moving their feet? It seems like a virus too that makes followers not follow you. They randomly stop following me and start spinning in one place. I was walking around Windhelm once, follower was normal, I noticed Lydia wasn't following me anymore. Went back, she was spinning like the others next to another spinning NPC.
Hilarious, but annoying and stupid, glad it fixed itself.
i mean so many ppl have brought up the glitches and bethesda has even announced a patch after thanksgiving, i mean ur just one person of millions who bought this game so i mean if it isnt happening to u than it doesnt exist....right?
@lylatfox4 No. I believe that they happen to everybody, but the frequency they happen to motdef is astounding compared to me. He said himself on another video that out of 20 hours, only 2 minutes have been something like this video. I've put about 30 hours into Skyrim since release and the biggest glitch I've had is a giant smacking me to the moon. The one glitch that happens to everybody.
@TwistedBiscuit8 I think the giant hitting you to the moon is intended to be. I tested a few times, if the giant makes the killing blow by kicking you than you just fall over but if it makes the killing blow with his club than you go flying , so I think it's suppose to be like pshh homerun!
@freebearride I can understand if if kills you with an an uppercut with the club sending you flying, but if it can kill me with a downward smash and sending me to check how things are at the ISS I think that Bethesda is just doing because they can get away with it. Nevertheless the first time it happened a hearty lol was shared by all.
Glitches and Bethesda are like peas in a pod. Invisibility glitches, dragon flight animation glitches, character's footing on mountains (especially on horseback) and general physics glitches are pretty common but tolerable. But sometimes you get one's that ruin quests (glitched resurrections, characters trapped on walls, items falling through floors, characters necessary to talk to becoming permanently hostile)
Having seen your videos, I don't even dare to start the game... I"ll wait at least for the first 2 patches. The game is almost completely broken. Only guys which their extreme fanboism has blinded them can't see it.
How come this weird shit never happens to me when I play Bethesda games? it's always just run of the mill stuff like physics props spazzing out or stuff disappearing
lol i was witness to a drogon stuck in a mountain with only his head showing and 4-5 mammoth falling from the sky in the same spot, and a couple dozen corpses floating in the air or dying in place
It is completely impossible for Bathesda games to have bugs of any kind. As a major video game publisher and developer, they would keep a competent quality control staff on hand at all times. For a company as successful and as innovative as Bathesda to have huge, glaring, and obvious glitches that reduce one's gaming experience to a Monty Python sketch is utterly laughable in my humble, sarcastic opinion.
I mean, what's next? Valve acting like a first grader who can't turn his homework on time?
@SgtHydra Yeah good luck trying to quality test a game as expansive as Skyrim on every single possible PC configuration in the world, hint, it's impossible.
Personally I've played over 30 hours in Skyrim so far and have not experienced any bugs yet.
@JaTochNietDan Actually, it's fairly simple to test a game like Skyrim.
You push it until it breaks. Then you go back, find the problem, and fix it.
Lather, rinse, repeat until you feel like you have met your standard of quality.
Which, judging from the bugs endemic to Oblivion, Fallout 3, New Vegas, and Skyrim, Bethesda seems to not have at all. One buggy game is acceptable. Four in a row (with three all on the same engine) is something to be ashamed of.
@SgtHydra It's actually very possible. Bug fixes during development might break something else that has already been tested/fixed, plus new code might clash with old code, etc.
With a game this big with so many different things converging together and with so many different ways to do things, it is literally impossible to find every little bug and glitch, unless you has an absolutely massive QA team, which is too expensive.
I like the bugs, their funny Bethesda games have always had funny bugs like this. Their like a trademark of their games now, it wouldn't feel right without them.
@BloXboX37 Actually, I do enjoy Bethesda games, just as much as I do Valve games.
My real grip is not with bad textures or the physics system causing shit to fly all over the place. No, the former doesn't even bother me in the slightest, and the latter is completely forgivable (not even our universe has a perfect physics engine).
What gets me is when the basics start breaking down. Like with the various NPC model bugs shown in this vid.
@SgtHydra What about the bad textures? I didn't know textures and graphics made a game. That's weird. The "physics system" is simply your hardware abusing the game engine buddy. Yes indeed, game engines do have with hardware to do. Because AI = Your computer. All of the bugs displayed in this video.
I have not had a single of them in my 85 hour playing time.
@SgtHydra Maybe not for you, but many times I have had issues of models just not loading at all in tf2. I've had it where level 3 sentries wouldn't load, making the game fully unplayable. I've had to wait for weeks on end for patches to come out so that Steam would verify my game files and see that something was wrong.
@nubzaquer Since they are your game files, the problem is on your end.
Verifying game files isn't the only method of correcting corrupted data. There is the traditional "uninstall/reinstall" method, which I used constantly in the 90's.
Bad files are not the same as a bug or glitch. They are simply bad files and will always create problems until they are deleted and replaced.
And if you want to talk about Valve's various bugs, you should have been there for the TF2 beta.
@langhalsen Just Cause 2 was open world, had lots of NPCs (and cars, boats, planes, and helicopters flying around everywhere too), and not a problem with the basic animations was ever visible at any point.
@SgtHydra Are you serious? Just Cause 2 had a shit load of bugs. Also, you don't interact with almost all the npcs in Just Cause 2. It's open world but without nearly the same level as detail as in Skyrim.
@SgtHydra Well Valves games aren't on such a grandiose scale, it's easier when there aren't hundreds of npcs and so many variables it will make your mind explode.
@SgtHydra "Bethesda games did not always have bugs. Just recently, really." Ahem! Daggerfall was the buggiest! That was TES II back in the 1990s! Arena had less but its scope (in terms of things to do, not land mass) was probably the most limited of all TES games.
@jlennon1000 (...), which are just as heavily scripted, but are scripted in ways that allow them to adapt and excel in new situations.
For example, the Combine Gunships were given a single basic command: "Shoot at whatever is the greatest threat." Little did the Valve developers realize that "the greatest threat" was not always the player, but the rockets the player would fire at the gunship, resulting in the Gunship's AI shooting down the rocket instead mindlessly focusing on the player. (...)
@SgtHydra i guess your right, and i didnt been to bag on valve's games i just meant in general. i really enjoy bathesdas games though and i havent really encountered anything really crazy like these examples so figured it must be something rather rare.
@SgtHydra another thing i forgot to mention; i feel its more important to spend time making npcs work in what they are most intended to be familiar with, to prevent really game breaking bugs and such, rather than be able to comprehend foreign situations.
@jlennon1000 In this minor example, we see the difference between the two company's styles of work:
Bethesda is like a puppeteer. They have a vast collection of puppets and props and stories to tell, but they can't imagine their little show to exist without their direct commands. So while they have a lot to offer; everything is hard, cold, and brittle.
Valve is like an autistic genius. They are slow, deliberate, and difficult to get along with; but their creations live independently of them.
Michal jackson is so overrated. Give the crown to these guys!
coolchillrock 5 days ago
@motdef Ever get the glitch where 90% of the NPCs in the game world start spinning or "walking around" without moving their feet? It seems like a virus too that makes followers not follow you. They randomly stop following me and start spinning in one place. I was walking around Windhelm once, follower was normal, I noticed Lydia wasn't following me anymore. Went back, she was spinning like the others next to another spinning NPC.
Hilarious, but annoying and stupid, glad it fixed itself.
214CIceCar 1 week ago
0:18 She wants me.
HITMANSPIKE007 2 weeks ago in playlist More videos from motdef
JAZZ LEGS
Rabarberium 3 weeks ago
I seriously don't know what is wrong with the games of the people that have this.
I haven't had a single bug and I played the game for 163 hours (said steam).
GamingToaster 4 weeks ago 5
i believe that first bit is what the kids call "dubstep"
TurboNemesis 1 month ago
@TurboNemesis yeah yeah totally mate...
TheAshy14 1 month ago
way too scary
StPatrickDayMassacre 1 month ago in playlist More videos from motdef
What happened here??? lol
fromtheoutdoors 1 month ago
1st clip response: u jelly?
breynolds1337 1 month ago
Everything seems perfectly normal and life like to me
MatthewPL2012 1 month ago
@MatthewPL2012 for a bethesda game it couldnt be any more normal
AnxiousPunkVideos 4 weeks ago
Miles Davis! Great taste.
SirMik003 1 month ago in playlist More videos from motdef 3
tcl
/iWin
EliteBushido 1 month ago
0:29
Perfection.
kkknoxskorner 1 month ago
Damn fine music choice.
Naherven 2 months ago
@Naherven Aye. Know what it's called?
Lulzman69 1 month ago
@Naherven I approve, it's great!
NoxxPie 1 month ago
Poor Todd Howard.
EdgarFroez 2 months ago
*hovering across the ground*
hi there.
Shadowking640 2 months ago 43
God. The jazz just made me crack up.
RedPirateLord 2 months ago 22
You have taste.
necrotacoz 2 months ago
Classy.
Kamboshin 2 months ago
I enjoy Miles Davis, John Coltrane, the list could go on...
CheckAnon 2 months ago
novaok beat me to it! and stunnerbahgawd! Who knew Miles was listened to so much.
TheGodfatherDon38 2 months ago
blue in green - miles davis
novaok 2 months ago
fuckin love me some miles davis
stunnerbahgawd 2 months ago
every day im shuffulin
nikoletina1994 2 months ago
WELL THE BUGS ARE ACTUALLY MAGIC
2BCBattlefield 2 months ago
Motdef Skyrim is the best Skyrim
flashfire505 2 months ago
The most usual bug I see in Skyrim and Fallout 3 are the weapons of dead enemies stuck on the air.
Tsagia 2 months ago
0:18 my body is ready
BitOkamisu 2 months ago
Not a good game unless I see a sabre cat corpse flying away into the sunset, doing cartwheels.
CommunistSquirrel 2 months ago
name of song or mp3 download link NOW!!! or Todd Howard will get u :3
DarkSignal59 2 months ago
Everyday I'm shuffling ♫
Then I took an arrow in the knee
ptiseb95 2 months ago
this shit hardly ever happens to me, im jelly
DannyEastes 2 months ago
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This taught me everything I needed to know to start playing Skyrim.
KingPecan 2 months ago
This taught me everything I needed to know to start playing Skyrim.
KingPecan 2 months ago
mot you are the unluckiest son of a bitch i have ever seen. the amount of bugs you find is 100% more than me.
billytamer 2 months ago
I've got a lot of knee arrows to shape.
GasMaskedMidget 2 months ago
skyrim + miles davis + bill evans = classy as fuck
checkdestroy 2 months ago
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You see those people? You can climb them
Sport921 2 months ago in playlist More videos from motdef
0:17 "Hi there" xDDDDD
VITYVIKTOR 2 months ago
>2011 >getting upset over the internet
zwxty 2 months ago in playlist More videos from motdef
look trolls:
1. shut up
2.shut the fuck up
3.shut the fuck up
4. shut up
5.shut the fuck up
6. SHUT THE FUCK UP TROLLS
MrLagvag 2 months ago
@MrLagvag u so mad
MaliusEpiphany 2 months ago
oh man. you really use the best music.
CrazedAfroninja 2 months ago
omg you said Rarity! lol
zaker345 2 months ago in playlist More videos from motdef
How the hell do you find all these bugs?
THAYMOFO 2 months ago in playlist More videos from motdef
Wtf!? 8D
NightmareSein 2 months ago
Holy shit Miles Davis
QueenOfCupcakes 3 months ago
0:03 Tap dancing like a Baws
newtonisamoron 3 months ago in playlist More videos from motdef
why.
are you using Blue in Green.
kopaka647 3 months ago
I think the scatman would be fitting here.
pieguy248 3 months ago
somebody should gift you a 2nd skyrim so you can gift it to someone else to gift it to osama's dead body.
ThisisSigma200 3 months ago
How do you get your games so buggy, Motdef?
SkateboardJones 3 months ago
L.A Skyrim
watzerenaufe 3 months ago
more miles please
Rathdei 3 months ago
thats me im the girl
Heat13009 3 months ago
Er'reday I'm shufflin'.
SlamminWolfgang 3 months ago 21
>plays Skyrim
>not a single one of these things happens
I'm beginning to think that you go into the game files and fuck shit up to do these things.
TwistedBiscuit8 3 months ago 35
@TwistedBiscuit8
i mean so many ppl have brought up the glitches and bethesda has even announced a patch after thanksgiving, i mean ur just one person of millions who bought this game so i mean if it isnt happening to u than it doesnt exist....right?
lylatfox4 3 months ago
@lylatfox4 No. I believe that they happen to everybody, but the frequency they happen to motdef is astounding compared to me. He said himself on another video that out of 20 hours, only 2 minutes have been something like this video. I've put about 30 hours into Skyrim since release and the biggest glitch I've had is a giant smacking me to the moon. The one glitch that happens to everybody.
TwistedBiscuit8 3 months ago
@TwistedBiscuit8 I think the giant hitting you to the moon is intended to be. I tested a few times, if the giant makes the killing blow by kicking you than you just fall over but if it makes the killing blow with his club than you go flying , so I think it's suppose to be like pshh homerun!
freebearride 3 months ago
@freebearride I can understand if if kills you with an an uppercut with the club sending you flying, but if it can kill me with a downward smash and sending me to check how things are at the ISS I think that Bethesda is just doing because they can get away with it. Nevertheless the first time it happened a hearty lol was shared by all.
TwistedBiscuit8 3 months ago
@TwistedBiscuit8 Imagine the character bouncing off the ground I guess
caqtv 3 months ago
@TwistedBiscuit8
Glitches and Bethesda are like peas in a pod. Invisibility glitches, dragon flight animation glitches, character's footing on mountains (especially on horseback) and general physics glitches are pretty common but tolerable. But sometimes you get one's that ruin quests (glitched resurrections, characters trapped on walls, items falling through floors, characters necessary to talk to becoming permanently hostile)
Mailmanagement 2 months ago
@Mailmanagement I know, I've played my share of Beth. games. It's just glitches don't happen to me very often, if at all.
TwistedBiscuit8 2 months ago
How do you manage, Motdef?
Bikkoes 3 months ago
It just dawned upon me that I haven't seen any glitches like these in 50 hours of play... I'm mildly disappointed now. :(
L0rdCanti 3 months ago
It's a new game, people. Chill, they'll patch them.
seanthamaster 3 months ago
0:17 sup
sounnikoura 3 months ago
How does everyone get these bugs but I dont?!
MBlueMunky 3 months ago
dat jazz
raphaelmigliori 3 months ago 67
what's the name of the song?
NaCk210 3 months ago
@NaCk210 Miles Davis & John Coltrane - Blue In Green
hadiordanyalanci 3 months ago
Oh god, that guy spinning made me bust a gut.
Tycholarfero 3 months ago in playlist More videos from motdef
how do you manage to even find these bugs
Krauserowns 3 months ago
It's like another New vegas
CanadianOne1 3 months ago
Having seen your videos, I don't even dare to start the game... I"ll wait at least for the first 2 patches. The game is almost completely broken. Only guys which their extreme fanboism has blinded them can't see it.
PCEliT1ST 3 months ago
@PCEliT1ST Nah, Mot just has the ability to break almost any game just by looking at it.
BushFries 3 months ago
@PCEliT1ST I don't know, but I have never found any of these bugs. Only mot has.
Tycholarfero 3 months ago in playlist More videos from motdef
@PCEliT1ST
How do you know it's broken without playing it? I like Mot's videos and he finds the best glitches, but don't judge the game because of that :P
RawrWolfie 3 months ago
So i decorate my house and go on a quest
When i come back everything is on the floor and valuable things are nowhere to be found
Radiant AI burglars stole my shit apparently
or Todd just can't get a proper fucking engine
kamilfreeman 3 months ago
What a beautiful song
Astrixone 3 months ago
man, if i could thumbs up a video description..
NorwegianCarWrecker 3 months ago
It's like there's dead zones in the map that cause any NPCs nearby to mess up.
Arro3 3 months ago
They seriously know how to make good games by not doing something right...
MrGmodlol61 3 months ago
I cried a little
vulva9317 3 months ago
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finalfantasy50 3 months ago
0:16
Best cameo appearance
wingebag 3 months ago
i think i finally understand the phrase 'spinning in his grave'
elatio 3 months ago
Day Twenty seven in these inhospitible lands...
The spinning corpses are becoming more vivid and prolonged...
I'm begining to wonder if this is all a dream...
Probably not, as I can swear I feel the children moonwalking past me on their backs as if being carried away by ants...
paranoidude 3 months ago
Yeah really, these bugs are always brilliant fun when you run into them.
MapOfCydonia 3 months ago
sometimes i wonder how moto finds all these bugs in such short time then i realise its a bethesda game and bugs like this are half the fun
chessman117 3 months ago
0:20 THATS PRETTY CREEPY
WHYSOHOMOSEX 3 months ago
FOOS
kiatasbihgou 3 months ago
@kiatasbihgou Fus Ro Dah!!
XDkennXD 3 months ago
100th comment
imicusdown 3 months ago
You always get the best bugs
NepheraPlaysVidya 3 months ago
Nice touch at the end there. Haha.
Gauphastus 3 months ago
I lost it at the end.
GujinGod 3 months ago
new title plz :> "beware of the hostile lands of skyrim"
Digadogup 3 months ago
it's still goty
rlcgreen13 3 months ago
I also had that dead body spin thing
steamempire 3 months ago
Smooooooooooth Jazzzzzzzz...!
GodHatesWar 3 months ago
0:17
10samm10 3 months ago in playlist More videos from motdef
have all these copyright violations made you lose your right to upload long videos
thatdarnaccount 3 months ago
AWW YEAH.
MILES DAVIS IN THIS BITCH.
Drakith20 3 months ago
@motdef
we all know that you love this fucking lagging game. Just like we all
m1ke1208 3 months ago
player.modav michealjfox 100
MAXepher 3 months ago 61
@MAXepher
Oh wow...g-good show.
LiamNeesonsDick 3 months ago
@MAXepher Oh man, I love you.
Bloodcurse13 3 months ago
@Bloodcurse13 <3
MAXepher 3 months ago
Nothing like relaxing chill music with Motdef's adventures.
benji000 3 months ago
Orc chicks are hot.
jhohcable 3 months ago
why is everyone posting skyrim videos and saying those are bugs?
isn't that the normal gameplay?
AnnatarGoA 3 months ago
@AnnatarGoA yeah. the game is running perfectly fine. i don't see anything wrong with it in this video
AlienFreak69 3 months ago
Okay you HAVE to be doing something. This just doesn't happen all the freaking time!
roetemeteor 3 months ago
you are on bethesda's hit list.
Bowarcher 3 months ago
lool i'm playing for like 30 hours on xbox and i only saw a bug (werewolf with a sword) and it was good one!
MrPIROCAS 3 months ago
And it turns out that all the bugs he finds are actually caused by his shitty computer.
lampofhell 3 months ago
How come this weird shit never happens to me when I play Bethesda games? it's always just run of the mill stuff like physics props spazzing out or stuff disappearing
D3STRUKT0R99 3 months ago
i guess you could say, every day *glasses* that archer was shuffeling
xoyv 3 months ago
We warned them the floors were wet, and look at them now. Starving to death trying to get out.
flussence 3 months ago
Motdef and Criken. Yup.
Ub3rSk1llz 3 months ago 18
Excellent music choice.
NCHammer326 3 months ago
These come normally or though a basic glitch series thing as seen in Mega Man and Sonic. :j
thps48 3 months ago
throughout the video i wanted to shout; GRAVITY, YOU ARE MINE!
Demazcus 3 months ago
EVERYDAY I'M SHUFFLING.
SHUFFLING.
SHUFFLING.
icegryphon 3 months ago
FUCK YEAH KIND OF BLUE
CheckAnon 3 months ago
lol i was witness to a drogon stuck in a mountain with only his head showing and 4-5 mammoth falling from the sky in the same spot, and a couple dozen corpses floating in the air or dying in place
m70c00l 3 months ago
It is completely impossible for Bathesda games to have bugs of any kind. As a major video game publisher and developer, they would keep a competent quality control staff on hand at all times. For a company as successful and as innovative as Bathesda to have huge, glaring, and obvious glitches that reduce one's gaming experience to a Monty Python sketch is utterly laughable in my humble, sarcastic opinion.
I mean, what's next? Valve acting like a first grader who can't turn his homework on time?
SgtHydra 3 months ago 89
@SgtHydra Yeah good luck trying to quality test a game as expansive as Skyrim on every single possible PC configuration in the world, hint, it's impossible.
Personally I've played over 30 hours in Skyrim so far and have not experienced any bugs yet.
JaTochNietDan 3 months ago
@JaTochNietDan Actually, it's fairly simple to test a game like Skyrim.
You push it until it breaks. Then you go back, find the problem, and fix it.
Lather, rinse, repeat until you feel like you have met your standard of quality.
Which, judging from the bugs endemic to Oblivion, Fallout 3, New Vegas, and Skyrim, Bethesda seems to not have at all. One buggy game is acceptable. Four in a row (with three all on the same engine) is something to be ashamed of.
Don't the take pride in their work?
SgtHydra 3 months ago
@SgtHydra Have you done game development before? Do it and then come back and talk.
JaTochNietDan 3 months ago
@JaTochNietDan See previous post.
SgtHydra 3 months ago
@SgtHydra It's actually very possible. Bug fixes during development might break something else that has already been tested/fixed, plus new code might clash with old code, etc.
With a game this big with so many different things converging together and with so many different ways to do things, it is literally impossible to find every little bug and glitch, unless you has an absolutely massive QA team, which is too expensive.
At least that's probably their excuse.
Homestar20845 3 months ago
@Homestar20845 then why make the game so huge? Unless Bethesda Studios don't really mind the bugs. And they entertain fans and haters alike.
So fuck it.
finalfantasy50 3 months ago
@finalfantasy50 If Elder Scrolls games were just linear, they would be incredibly boring >.>
Homestar20845 3 months ago
I like the bugs, their funny Bethesda games have always had funny bugs like this. Their like a trademark of their games now, it wouldn't feel right without them.
ImDiddyKongFTW 3 months ago 2
@SgtHydra If you don't enjoy "Bathesda" games. Then thats your opinion. Bugs bother you too much maybe?
BloXboX37 3 months ago
@BloXboX37 Actually, I do enjoy Bethesda games, just as much as I do Valve games.
My real grip is not with bad textures or the physics system causing shit to fly all over the place. No, the former doesn't even bother me in the slightest, and the latter is completely forgivable (not even our universe has a perfect physics engine).
What gets me is when the basics start breaking down. Like with the various NPC model bugs shown in this vid.
Don't see Valve's games having any of that.
SgtHydra 3 months ago 20
@SgtHydra What about the bad textures? I didn't know textures and graphics made a game. That's weird. The "physics system" is simply your hardware abusing the game engine buddy. Yes indeed, game engines do have with hardware to do. Because AI = Your computer. All of the bugs displayed in this video.
I have not had a single of them in my 85 hour playing time.
BloXboX37 3 months ago
@SgtHydra I'm pretty sure that Skyrim was only released recently and BethSoft's already hurrying up with the patch.
DunmeriPride 2 months ago
@DunmeriPride Well, maybe they should have taken a page from Valve and actually released it when it was ready for the marketplace.
Fuck the 11/11/11 release date. Give it to us when it's done.
And btw, we saw the same fucking problems back with the Oblivion engine all the way to New Vegas.
I highly doubt that the Skyrim engine will somehow get fixed when the previous engine never did.
SgtHydra 2 months ago
@SgtHydra Maybe not for you, but many times I have had issues of models just not loading at all in tf2. I've had it where level 3 sentries wouldn't load, making the game fully unplayable. I've had to wait for weeks on end for patches to come out so that Steam would verify my game files and see that something was wrong.
nubzaquer 2 months ago
@nubzaquer Since they are your game files, the problem is on your end.
Verifying game files isn't the only method of correcting corrupted data. There is the traditional "uninstall/reinstall" method, which I used constantly in the 90's.
Bad files are not the same as a bug or glitch. They are simply bad files and will always create problems until they are deleted and replaced.
And if you want to talk about Valve's various bugs, you should have been there for the TF2 beta.
Fun times.
SgtHydra 2 months ago
@SgtHydra valves games isn't open world and including thousands of DIFFERENT npcs either..
langhalsen 2 months ago in playlist More videos from motdef
@langhalsen Just Cause 2 was open world, had lots of NPCs (and cars, boats, planes, and helicopters flying around everywhere too), and not a problem with the basic animations was ever visible at any point.
Face it. Bethesda has gotten lazy.
SgtHydra 2 months ago
@SgtHydra Are you serious? Just Cause 2 had a shit load of bugs. Also, you don't interact with almost all the npcs in Just Cause 2. It's open world but without nearly the same level as detail as in Skyrim.
lkjhgfddfd 2 months ago
first: I wasn't aware that valve made JC2
2nd: There isn't nearly as many NPCs in JC2 as skyrim
3rd: The NPCs in JC2 has a little to 0 interaction and is just targets that won't even fire back
4th: JC2 had bugs
5th: The npcs and animations in skyrim is much more complex than in JC2
6th: I have around 100 hours in skyrim and I've only seen a few bugs, nothing gamebreaking.
7th: Bethesda games always had bugs, nothing new, so 'gotten lazy' is wrong
langhalsen 2 months ago
@SgtHydra Well Valves games aren't on such a grandiose scale, it's easier when there aren't hundreds of npcs and so many variables it will make your mind explode.
lkjhgfddfd 2 months ago
@lkjhgfddfd Look, moron:
1. Valve didn't make JC2. Avalanche did. DUH.
2. JC2 has a 1/10th as many bugs as Skyrim.
3. JC2 looks better than Skyrim. YEAH I WENT THERE BITCH.
4. No, the animations are not more complex. In some cases, they're exactly the same right down to the code.
5. Bethesda games did not always have bugs. Just recently, really.
6. You're a bootlicking faggot.
SgtHydra 2 months ago
@SgtHydra "Bethesda games did not always have bugs. Just recently, really." Ahem! Daggerfall was the buggiest! That was TES II back in the 1990s! Arena had less but its scope (in terms of things to do, not land mass) was probably the most limited of all TES games.
lintonthepenguin 2 months ago
@SgtHydra Look. Dumb ass fag:
1. I didn't say valve made fucking JC2, those were 2 separate comments in reply to 2 separate comments of yours.
2. JC2 has less bugs than Skyrim but it still had a shitload of 'em
3. ...Are you retarded?
4. You can't be serious, JC2 has cartoon-like animations and such, not bad but certainly without the depth and complexity that come with Skyrims.
5. I guess you've never played Daggerfall or Oblivion.
6. Suck my dick you fuckin' cunt.
lkjhgfddfd 2 months ago
@lkjhgfddfd And not a fuck was given about anything you just said.
SgtHydra 2 months ago
@SgtHydra you gotta say though, the bugs of bethesda games are relatively rare when compared to many other mainstream titles
jlennon1000 2 months ago
@jlennon1000 In some ways you are correct, in other ways you are wrong.
There is no denying that all games have bugs. Even the most carefully constructed one. Even the ones you think would have no bugs at all.
However, Bethesda games are infamous, INFAMOUS, for terribly flawed engines and god-awfully robotic NPCs.
All of Skyrim's NPCs are so heavily scripted that whenever they are put in an unfamiliar situation, they don't just break; they shatter like glass.
Compare that to Valve's NPCs (...)
SgtHydra 2 months ago
@jlennon1000 (...), which are just as heavily scripted, but are scripted in ways that allow them to adapt and excel in new situations.
For example, the Combine Gunships were given a single basic command: "Shoot at whatever is the greatest threat." Little did the Valve developers realize that "the greatest threat" was not always the player, but the rockets the player would fire at the gunship, resulting in the Gunship's AI shooting down the rocket instead mindlessly focusing on the player. (...)
SgtHydra 2 months ago
@SgtHydra i guess your right, and i didnt been to bag on valve's games i just meant in general. i really enjoy bathesdas games though and i havent really encountered anything really crazy like these examples so figured it must be something rather rare.
jlennon1000 2 months ago
@SgtHydra another thing i forgot to mention; i feel its more important to spend time making npcs work in what they are most intended to be familiar with, to prevent really game breaking bugs and such, rather than be able to comprehend foreign situations.
jlennon1000 2 months ago
@jlennon1000 Well, my point is that you should also at least allow the AI to have a default state that they would go into in said foreign situations.
You can use Valve's AI in any situation on g-mod.
Bethesda's AI freaks out in its own game. I cannot imagine what it'd due outside of it.
SgtHydra 2 months ago
@SgtHydra to me its not much of a big deal but to you it could be more important
jlennon1000 2 months ago
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SgtHydra 2 months ago
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@jlennon1000 In this minor example, we see the difference between the two company's styles of work:
Bethesda is like a puppeteer. They have a vast collection of puppets and props and stories to tell, but they can't imagine their little show to exist without their direct commands. So while they have a lot to offer; everything is hard, cold, and brittle.
Valve is like an autistic genius. They are slow, deliberate, and difficult to get along with; but their creations live independently of them.
SgtHydra 2 months ago
@SgtHydra In Half-Life 2, there was a bug that disabled the AI of NPCs, and they stopped "acting"
luke4djojo 2 months ago
@SgtHydra *Bethesda
dasani991 3 months ago
@dasani991 Wonder if that was an intentional misspelling... could be...
SgtHydra 3 months ago
This is really nice music.
lopeztreex 3 months ago
Indeed take caution in skyrim. Ive seen wheel barrels that will drain your health to 20% in a instant!
sinder87 3 months ago
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