Hypnotism at its best! False Profits at their worst! Need we say more than the fact that G-d does not recognize anyone who stands and bilks the people like this.
when I believed the "JUST RECIEVE JESUS GOSPEL" many years ago I might have been there but thank God I got understanding of the circus of what is called Chrisitan today which is fueled by the kundalini spirit of eastern religion.
i dont see anything wrong in this video. all i see is a bunch of people praising their lord and savior Jesus Christ in the way they want to express their worship to him. and if this is adolatry then dang my church along with most of the churches around the world are too
the children of Israel dancing around the golden calf is also what immediately sprang to my mind, when i first saw some of this Bentley stuff. and sorry folks but that's the impression i got and what it reminded me of, it was the only thing that made sense out of it all actually.
Please don't get me wrong, I don't condemn dancing in Christs name. I don't even condemn those people you saw in the video. My judgment is that this is seen as "Christian". I ask that they leave Christ's name out of anything Todd Bentley has any connection. I would ask to leave dancing out of churches where solomn preaching and teaching of the Word should take center stage to anything else. It's through the preaching of the Word people will get saved, not dancing. Dance at home instead.
Hi, I watched the man with a beard in on the stage slapping his chest right hand over left.
May seem nothing but I saw a documentary lastnight on a Muslim cult, and the men sitting and singing themselves into a trance with repetative words and tune, would do exactly the same thing...they explained it as a part of worship to Mohammad.
Interesting that this moshpit did exactly the same as this group .
What part of this is Idolatry. You foolish people. Where the Glory of the lord is there is freedom. David danced and shouted as the Ark of the Covenant was brought back in to Jerusalem. His Wife Judged him and she became baron. Those who see this and disregard it as a joke are making the same judgments as her. Also whoever posted this how dare you quote scripture from a man who said, "I will be even more undignified then this for the sake of my King".
They were also dancing around the golden calf when half of Israel was swallowed by the earth. This Lance is called idolatry. These people aren't dancing to the Lord, they are dancing to for Todd, for the young girl in form fitting clothes singing on stage. Whatever she said they did, whatever she did they mimicked. This is idolatry too, when it's done to the god of their own image.
that's interesting, i also thought he looked like he was putting himself into some kind of trance. to those who say what's the big deal, just look up "morningstar madness" (with Rick Joyner) and i wonder if you'd also think they are just worshipping the Lord. my mother said this is how she always dreamed heaven could be (kingdom of heaven on earth?) which i found very sad, and always had to wonder what delusion must be at work. she said God would never send delusion but the Bible tells me so.
oops, ALWAYS should read ALSO in my previous comment. the changes i've seen are recent and sudden, but the ingredients have been in place for a long time, if that makes any sense. i know what you mean Streetfisher, it's the labeling of this as Christian that also bothers me, the speaking for God and misrepresentation, that i think is so damaging. dancing in itself is ok, there is a time and a place, in fact i believe my life was once saved by an angel who urged me to "dance!" i had overdosed
"A human group transforms itself into a crowd when it suddenly responds to a suggestion rather than to reasoning, to an image rather than to an idea, to an affirmation rather than to proof, to the repetition of a phrase rather than to arguments." Jean Revel
My initial impulse was to focus on Todd - is he possessed, a calculating sociopath, sincere but misguided, or just a moron?
But what's really disturbing is how many fools fall for his kind. Maybe religion really is just a genetic impulse.
texasrocks888, I like your name. There is nothing wrong in worshipping our triune God. But the Jesus being worshipped in the vid is not the Christ who came to seek and save that wich was lost. A few of us asked prior to the show, what is the Gospel? No one could answer, not one. If I called myself a carpenter and could not build a simple box, I would be a liar. If you call yourself a Christian you better be able at least to explain the Gospel of Jesus Christ and Him crucified.
Thanks. I was there that night and I see several people I know in this, they were sitting all around you. Now I no longer support Todd Bentley BUT there have been some good things that have come out of Lakeland, its just the bad overshadows the good. Todd has changed, he's not the same person he was back in 2005 when I met him and spent the weekend with him in Austin. He's gotton ALOT more tattoos and has fallen into some things that are not of God. I still love Chuck Pierce and Keith Miller!
texasrocks888, thanks again. Please don't think I'm hateful to your comments, I count on em. I must disagree with you about todd. Todd is a prime example of a false convert. Even more so an example of post modern thinking mixed with Non Lordship thinking. Those 2 things are not the cause of sin, just an outcome of sin. Remember, sin is transgression of the law, period, the 10 commandments. Todd is a dead tree, he can't produce any fruit. Only Christians produce good fruit.
this is a technique used by false prophets to put the audience into an altered state so they will be ready to receive and believe anything Todd tells them...this is an occult technique and straight from hell...
Not sure about straight from hell but, if they aren't praising God they're be praising satan. Praising anything other than Christ is putting something else above Christ, that's another gospel and that deserves to be anathama.
This is the first public revelation of the identity of the "Man of Sin" the entity that has had man, scholars and poets searching for centuries for identity, it was said that b4 the end he would be revealed!
The Man of sin is Jesus Christ himself!
2nd cor5;21 declares:
This man Jesus Who knew no sin became sin that we might be made righteous b4 God! he took all upon himself as a man and nailed sin! "past, present and future" to the cross forever! The scripture is now fulfilled on utube!
Rev 4:9-11... "Whenever the living creatures give glory, honor and thanks to him who sits on the throne and who lives for ever and ever, the twenty-four elders fall down before him who sits on the throne, and worship him who lives for ever and ever. They lay their crowns before the throne and say: 'You are worthy, our Lord and God, to receive glory and honor and power, for you created all things, and by your will they were created and have their being.'" THAT is charismatic worship.
I don't have a crown so I can't lay it down. I will one day though and I will lay it down. I don't think though in this situation people are mosh pit dancing. Falling down before Him, doesn't require me to jump and jump and jump and resemble a crazy woman doing the same. I just can't relate that the todd show resembles heaven. Not even an earthly king would put up with the todd show nonsense. It's always reverence, grace, caution, prior to approaching any throne. This shows no restraint.
There's many different forms of worship and I think all of them bring a smile to God's face...he doesn't care how his praises are sung. And David danced before the Lord, why shouldnt we do the same? While I think the conference was more about making money than bringing in revival, the worship WAS good. And I left after worship anyway, haha.
The question I have is why go to a false teacher conference when the best worship anyone could have is in your room. Reading Psalms and praying the Psalms is enrichingly powerful. No show, no music, no one telling you to lift your hands, no one telling you to give God a praise clap. It's only you and God. Worship is also gathering with your family around Christ. Worship is reading the scriptures. I see only showmanship at a todd this conference.
Well at the time I didn't realize what was going on there...but I do now. Why were you there? Back in 2005 when I was at one of Todd's conferences with Keith Miller it was totally different and people were actually healed. It wasn't about money, power and prestige as it is now...it was just about Jesus.
And actually my church has better worship, and I also go to worship events my uncle's ministry (Dominion Music Group) does. I invite you to check out his channel, just search "Gregg Barnes"
Rev 4:7-8... "In the center, around the throne, were four living creatures, and they were covered with eyes, in front and in back. The first living creature was like a lion, the second was like an ox, the third had a face like a man, the fourth was like a flying eagle. Each of the four living creatures had six wings and was covered with eyes all around, even under his wings. Day and night they never stop saying: "Holy, holy, holy is the Lord God Almighty, who was, and is, and is to come."
What you wrote here glorifies Christ, what I saw in Denton could pass for any other type of music. Too, this music wasn't to glorify the Lord of hosts, it was to hype up everyone there to commit themselves to Todd's thinking.
I guess we're REALLY in trouble... according to your reasoning right now Satan's spirit is drawing those in heaven into deception. What do you say about Revelation 4:7-11...
The Crowd would have been way more pumped if it was Lamb of God playing
Mezey5 10 months ago
Hypnotism at its best! False Profits at their worst! Need we say more than the fact that G-d does not recognize anyone who stands and bilks the people like this.
journeyer58 1 year ago
Any real Christian would vomit at the FALSE SPIRITS in this video!!
DallasTheGreat28 1 year ago
when I believed the "JUST RECIEVE JESUS GOSPEL" many years ago I might have been there but thank God I got understanding of the circus of what is called Chrisitan today which is fueled by the kundalini spirit of eastern religion.
christophorM 1 year ago
SET ME AFIRE?! hahah i would have no problems with setting them all on fire!
hamaszg 1 year ago
These people will follow anti-christ easily.
JasmineMcEgan 2 years ago
Sheeple
mrsevans1000 2 years ago 2
goats
Streetfisher 2 years ago
step 1 get the crowd jacked up
step 2 take an offering
step 3 tell a signs and wonder story to excite them
step 4 take a "love offering"
tspencley3 2 years ago
Right! This is all FAKE
iconoclast911 2 years ago
It sounds like you were there.
Streetfisher 2 years ago
naw i just know the routine
tspencley3 2 years ago
@Streetfisher he took up the offering.
voiceofelijah2012 1 year ago
Thank you for your clean comments
Streetfisher 2 years ago
i used to be in the music scene and i know how music can affect people, but this makes me feel sick when i watch it!
rahahmim 2 years ago
i dont see anything wrong in this video. all i see is a bunch of people praising their lord and savior Jesus Christ in the way they want to express their worship to him. and if this is adolatry then dang my church along with most of the churches around the world are too
jreditninja21 2 years ago
Read my response to LanceVan. I was there that night, I recorded this trance. I call this golden calf dancing not praise God dancing.
Streetfisher 2 years ago
the children of Israel dancing around the golden calf is also what immediately sprang to my mind, when i first saw some of this Bentley stuff. and sorry folks but that's the impression i got and what it reminded me of, it was the only thing that made sense out of it all actually.
weberly2 2 years ago
Please don't get me wrong, I don't condemn dancing in Christs name. I don't even condemn those people you saw in the video. My judgment is that this is seen as "Christian". I ask that they leave Christ's name out of anything Todd Bentley has any connection. I would ask to leave dancing out of churches where solomn preaching and teaching of the Word should take center stage to anything else. It's through the preaching of the Word people will get saved, not dancing. Dance at home instead.
Streetfisher 2 years ago
where solomn preaching and teaching of the Word should take center stage to anything else.
Thank you for understanding this.
iconoclast911 2 years ago
Thank you for your understanding. I don't comment too much anymore on my videos but, yours is refreshing.
Streetfisher 2 years ago
this is clearly not the reason i left the movement! this is awesome! we need His fire desperately.
this fire is purifying, the fire of love, making us so passionate for Him that we want to completely live for Him alone!
please consider this.
Blessings.
SweetSoundOfGrace 3 years ago
The Lord requires a new song to be sung.
TheVictorians 3 years ago
Hi, I watched the man with a beard in on the stage slapping his chest right hand over left.
May seem nothing but I saw a documentary lastnight on a Muslim cult, and the men sitting and singing themselves into a trance with repetative words and tune, would do exactly the same thing...they explained it as a part of worship to Mohammad.
Interesting that this moshpit did exactly the same as this group .
holmgrupe 3 years ago
muslims do not worship Mohammad he is only a prophet to them. They worship Al-la.
LanceVan18 3 years ago
What part of this is Idolatry. You foolish people. Where the Glory of the lord is there is freedom. David danced and shouted as the Ark of the Covenant was brought back in to Jerusalem. His Wife Judged him and she became baron. Those who see this and disregard it as a joke are making the same judgments as her. Also whoever posted this how dare you quote scripture from a man who said, "I will be even more undignified then this for the sake of my King".
LanceVan18 3 years ago
They were also dancing around the golden calf when half of Israel was swallowed by the earth. This Lance is called idolatry. These people aren't dancing to the Lord, they are dancing to for Todd, for the young girl in form fitting clothes singing on stage. Whatever she said they did, whatever she did they mimicked. This is idolatry too, when it's done to the god of their own image.
Streetfisher 2 years ago
that's interesting, i also thought he looked like he was putting himself into some kind of trance. to those who say what's the big deal, just look up "morningstar madness" (with Rick Joyner) and i wonder if you'd also think they are just worshipping the Lord. my mother said this is how she always dreamed heaven could be (kingdom of heaven on earth?) which i found very sad, and always had to wonder what delusion must be at work. she said God would never send delusion but the Bible tells me so.
weberly2 2 years ago
oops, ALWAYS should read ALSO in my previous comment. the changes i've seen are recent and sudden, but the ingredients have been in place for a long time, if that makes any sense. i know what you mean Streetfisher, it's the labeling of this as Christian that also bothers me, the speaking for God and misrepresentation, that i think is so damaging. dancing in itself is ok, there is a time and a place, in fact i believe my life was once saved by an angel who urged me to "dance!" i had overdosed
weberly2 2 years ago
Thank you weberly for reading the scriptures.
Streetfisher 2 years ago
This is the scariest, saddest thing I have every seen!!!!
These poor people are being mind-f***ed by these spychos.
I bet Jim Jones church looked like this the night before they passed out the kool-aid.
oakwise 3 years ago
"A human group transforms itself into a crowd when it suddenly responds to a suggestion rather than to reasoning, to an image rather than to an idea, to an affirmation rather than to proof, to the repetition of a phrase rather than to arguments." Jean Revel
My initial impulse was to focus on Todd - is he possessed, a calculating sociopath, sincere but misguided, or just a moron?
But what's really disturbing is how many fools fall for his kind. Maybe religion really is just a genetic impulse.
reti123 3 years ago
whoo watched it again the annointing is so wonderful, Thanks again!
nothingssss 3 years ago 2
Awesome worship!! Praise God thanks for posting it
nothingssss 3 years ago 2
Whats so bad about praising Jesus??
texasrocks888 3 years ago
texasrocks888, I like your name. There is nothing wrong in worshipping our triune God. But the Jesus being worshipped in the vid is not the Christ who came to seek and save that wich was lost. A few of us asked prior to the show, what is the Gospel? No one could answer, not one. If I called myself a carpenter and could not build a simple box, I would be a liar. If you call yourself a Christian you better be able at least to explain the Gospel of Jesus Christ and Him crucified.
Streetfisher 3 years ago
Thanks. I was there that night and I see several people I know in this, they were sitting all around you. Now I no longer support Todd Bentley BUT there have been some good things that have come out of Lakeland, its just the bad overshadows the good. Todd has changed, he's not the same person he was back in 2005 when I met him and spent the weekend with him in Austin. He's gotton ALOT more tattoos and has fallen into some things that are not of God. I still love Chuck Pierce and Keith Miller!
texasrocks888 3 years ago
texasrocks888, thanks again. Please don't think I'm hateful to your comments, I count on em. I must disagree with you about todd. Todd is a prime example of a false convert. Even more so an example of post modern thinking mixed with Non Lordship thinking. Those 2 things are not the cause of sin, just an outcome of sin. Remember, sin is transgression of the law, period, the 10 commandments. Todd is a dead tree, he can't produce any fruit. Only Christians produce good fruit.
Streetfisher 3 years ago
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texasrocks888 3 years ago
this is a technique used by false prophets to put the audience into an altered state so they will be ready to receive and believe anything Todd tells them...this is an occult technique and straight from hell...
stargazr1977 3 years ago
Not sure about straight from hell but, if they aren't praising God they're be praising satan. Praising anything other than Christ is putting something else above Christ, that's another gospel and that deserves to be anathama.
Streetfisher 3 years ago
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This is the first public revelation of the identity of the "Man of Sin" the entity that has had man, scholars and poets searching for centuries for identity, it was said that b4 the end he would be revealed!
The Man of sin is Jesus Christ himself!
2nd cor5;21 declares:
This man Jesus Who knew no sin became sin that we might be made righteous b4 God! he took all upon himself as a man and nailed sin! "past, present and future" to the cross forever! The scripture is now fulfilled on utube!
ravenwolf789 3 years ago
Rev 4:9-11... "Whenever the living creatures give glory, honor and thanks to him who sits on the throne and who lives for ever and ever, the twenty-four elders fall down before him who sits on the throne, and worship him who lives for ever and ever. They lay their crowns before the throne and say: 'You are worthy, our Lord and God, to receive glory and honor and power, for you created all things, and by your will they were created and have their being.'" THAT is charismatic worship.
pastoroso777 3 years ago
I don't have a crown so I can't lay it down. I will one day though and I will lay it down. I don't think though in this situation people are mosh pit dancing. Falling down before Him, doesn't require me to jump and jump and jump and resemble a crazy woman doing the same. I just can't relate that the todd show resembles heaven. Not even an earthly king would put up with the todd show nonsense. It's always reverence, grace, caution, prior to approaching any throne. This shows no restraint.
Streetfisher 3 years ago
There's many different forms of worship and I think all of them bring a smile to God's face...he doesn't care how his praises are sung. And David danced before the Lord, why shouldnt we do the same? While I think the conference was more about making money than bringing in revival, the worship WAS good. And I left after worship anyway, haha.
texasrocks888 3 years ago
The question I have is why go to a false teacher conference when the best worship anyone could have is in your room. Reading Psalms and praying the Psalms is enrichingly powerful. No show, no music, no one telling you to lift your hands, no one telling you to give God a praise clap. It's only you and God. Worship is also gathering with your family around Christ. Worship is reading the scriptures. I see only showmanship at a todd this conference.
Streetfisher 3 years ago
Well at the time I didn't realize what was going on there...but I do now. Why were you there? Back in 2005 when I was at one of Todd's conferences with Keith Miller it was totally different and people were actually healed. It wasn't about money, power and prestige as it is now...it was just about Jesus.
And actually my church has better worship, and I also go to worship events my uncle's ministry (Dominion Music Group) does. I invite you to check out his channel, just search "Gregg Barnes"
texasrocks888 3 years ago
I was there to watch Todd punch someone or kick someone and call it healing. I was there to give him more exposure from the little I do on You Tube.
Thanks TRock
Streetfisher 3 years ago
Did he? I left when he started to speak. How did you get seats on the floor?
texasrocks888 3 years ago
This is not worship. This is idolatry.
ATLpirate 3 years ago
hahahaha that has got to be one of the dumbest things I've ever heard!
texasrocks888 3 years ago
So, you're one of these people who call this kind of rubbish "worship" are you ?
Keruaran 2 years ago
They call this worship ? Oh dear...
Keruaran 2 years ago
Rev 4:7-8... "In the center, around the throne, were four living creatures, and they were covered with eyes, in front and in back. The first living creature was like a lion, the second was like an ox, the third had a face like a man, the fourth was like a flying eagle. Each of the four living creatures had six wings and was covered with eyes all around, even under his wings. Day and night they never stop saying: "Holy, holy, holy is the Lord God Almighty, who was, and is, and is to come."
pastoroso777 3 years ago
What you wrote here glorifies Christ, what I saw in Denton could pass for any other type of music. Too, this music wasn't to glorify the Lord of hosts, it was to hype up everyone there to commit themselves to Todd's thinking.
It's all about Todd and nothing about Christ.
Streetfisher 3 years ago
I guess we're REALLY in trouble... according to your reasoning right now Satan's spirit is drawing those in heaven into deception. What do you say about Revelation 4:7-11...
pastoroso777 3 years ago
What do you understand my reasoning to be?
Streetfisher 3 years ago
catchy tune !!
alamo11 3 years ago
yes it is but not an hour or more of it.
Streetfisher 3 years ago
haha, know what you mean
alamo11 3 years ago
know what? if this were jerry garcia, i'd be dancing, too. 4 more years of this stuff, and america's doomed.
changegottahappen 3 years ago