@enddebtslavery well actually, there are no innocent Muslims, all the schools of islamic jurisprudence ( Hanafi, Hanbali, Maliki, Shafi'i as well as the Shi'ites) all agree that Jews have to enter the dhimma.
woe I almost forgot Sahih al Muslim 41, 69, 84 and al Bukhari 4 52 176 -77 which clearly say that the Jews must be destroyed completely in order for the islamic resurrection to occur.... .All the Muslims wherever they are must return to Saudi Arabia
@israelipatriot19 All this bullshit only matters if you've been brainwashed into believing any religion. Your religion, like many others is being used to promote a political agenda ie zionism, not a religious one.
@enddebtslavery These are not my words, its Ibn Ishaq who says that Muhammad received defensive and offensive revelations in order to convert or subjugate the jews.
it is 2:106 that says that the later verses take precedence over the earlier ones that are tolerant.
its the shafi'i manual ( as well is the others) that says that the umma must make war upon Jews, Christians, and Zoroastrians in order to establish the religion, not me.
@israelipatriot19 I didn't say it was you, i said all religions were just made up garbage, there to instill fear and control over men. Yours, christianity, Islam... you name it, all can do good and all have definately done evil toward man.
@israelipatriot19 Absolute crap, i know muslims and have worked with many, whilst i don't believe in any 'higher power' they are still friendly and don't want me dead. You have an education from the television my friend and it's very dangerous, it's the sort of education that allows corrupt goverments controlled by money hungry corporations to send our brothers and sisters to kill their fellow man, for what? freedom or $?
@enddebtslavery in 3:28 and 16:106 it says that it is permissible to deceive the unbelievers ( al taqiyya) just like muhammad ibn maslama did to Ka'b ibn al ashraf
@enddebtslavery So if Mohammad did it, then the Muslims have to do it because Muhammad is defined as a an excellent model of conduct (uswa hasana) and a the perfect human (al Insan al Kamil)
@israelipatriot19 Look, i don't give a f**k what any book says Bible,Talmud or Qur'an, its all garbage there for control, thats it. But i don't hate anybody who believes this nonsence, its their belief, who i do hate are people who use it as an excuse to murder other people and whether you like it or not most religions are guilty of that.
Please do not quote fictional passages from 'scriptures' and expect me to engage in debate about them, going back to basics here, its just mythical.
@israelipatriot19 You support zionism, thats it plain simple. You are driven by belief in a fictional higher power, fucking nonsence. If i believe something is made up then reading it will not then convince me its real. The problem with religion is no matter which you believe, you can have no logic in any arguement if your debate is based on a book which someone told you was the 'truth'.
@enddebtslavery First of all, I'm not a Zionist. Zionists want a secular state within limited borders, I want all of Israel.
Secondly, unfortunately there are over a billion Muslims that believe in their religion. The discussion here is not about what is real and what isn't . We are discussing If there are moderate Muslims or not. all the schools of islamic jurisprudence ( Hanafi, Hanbali, Maliki, Shafi'i)+ the Shi'ites all agree on the issue of Jihad, so there are no moderate muslims
@israelipatriot19 Bollocks, zionists want the complete destruction of Palestine, and as long as i have breath in me that land will always be known as Palestine. So every muslim in the world is a fanatical nutjob eh? You are a child who lacks the ability to think on individual issues, it all comes down to that group versus this group.
Please spare me the zionist ideology, you sacrifice genuine jews for political bullshit which is all about control and profit.
@enddebtslavery First of all, there is no such thing as Palestine. your not contradicting me, just a load of crap without sources. Islam killed over a milion Jews, Mohammad alone killed 25 thousand according to Ibn Ishaq. was there any Israel back then?!
Islam is the only political Ideology with universal goals because the Islamic calendar starts in the hijra.
I want a Jewish state within the limited land of Israel, not beyond.
They want to implement sharia universally, not me.
@enddebtslavery I'm still waiting for you to show me that there are moderate Muslims and that there are sects within Islam that reject the idea of jihad
@israelipatriot19 I've got nothing to show, if you believe all muslims are fanatical then fine, i think you're a fucking idiot for thinking that. And just maybe all the muslims you come across hate you because you murder their brothers and sisters so you can steal their homeland.
Stop wasting my life retard you aren't bright enough to keep me interested.
@enddebtslavery it's not there homeland and i just told you that the killing began in the hijra, when Muhammad received defensive and offensive revelations (according to Ibn Ishaq). There was no Israel at that time.
The Rashidun, Banu Umayyah, the Abbasids and the al Muwahhidun killed a million Jews.
@enddebtslavery f these verses are not relevant then why did the sixteen thousand attacks that were carried out by Muslims since September eleven were inspired and justified by these verses?
@israelipatriot19 ,@enddebtslavery I agree the Holocaust is over used! I think Zionist jews are Cowards,because they wont straight say what they want, and if they did... Do you think Israel would exist?
@jew4palestine My comment was sarcasm, its a language barrier thing. But please stop using the holocaust in every arguement that involves israel, not matter what happened during WW2 it cannot justify the genocide of another people, who were nothing to do with the holocaust.
this is unacceptable. just as palestinians cannot tolerate the likes of hamas, israelis need to do all they can to curb this dangerous ideology.
kingsalamander123 4 months ago
Stabbing a poor kid to death ... Isn't this also antisemitic? After all, Arabs are also Semitic people.
LH3301 1 year ago
Oh no. this is awful news. These are bad problems. The Zionist must be stopoped. There has to be war and destroy Israel.
DilaudidKing 1 year ago
Israel makes possible hate crimes by racist individuals and murders with impunity.
Rx4pabulum 1 year ago
This can't be true, israelis murdering innocent people? never!
Peace.
enddebtslavery 1 year ago
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@enddebtslavery well actually, there are no innocent Muslims, all the schools of islamic jurisprudence ( Hanafi, Hanbali, Maliki, Shafi'i as well as the Shi'ites) all agree that Jews have to enter the dhimma.
woe I almost forgot Sahih al Muslim 41, 69, 84 and al Bukhari 4 52 176 -77 which clearly say that the Jews must be destroyed completely in order for the islamic resurrection to occur.... .All the Muslims wherever they are must return to Saudi Arabia
israelipatriot19 1 year ago
@israelipatriot19 All this bullshit only matters if you've been brainwashed into believing any religion. Your religion, like many others is being used to promote a political agenda ie zionism, not a religious one.
enddebtslavery 1 year ago
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@enddebtslavery These are not my words, its Ibn Ishaq who says that Muhammad received defensive and offensive revelations in order to convert or subjugate the jews.
it is 2:106 that says that the later verses take precedence over the earlier ones that are tolerant.
its the shafi'i manual ( as well is the others) that says that the umma must make war upon Jews, Christians, and Zoroastrians in order to establish the religion, not me.
israelipatriot19 1 year ago
@israelipatriot19 I didn't say it was you, i said all religions were just made up garbage, there to instill fear and control over men. Yours, christianity, Islam... you name it, all can do good and all have definately done evil toward man.
enddebtslavery 1 year ago
@enddebtslavery So first let's reach an agreement that moderate Muslims just don't exist.
israelipatriot19 1 year ago
@israelipatriot19 Absolute crap, i know muslims and have worked with many, whilst i don't believe in any 'higher power' they are still friendly and don't want me dead. You have an education from the television my friend and it's very dangerous, it's the sort of education that allows corrupt goverments controlled by money hungry corporations to send our brothers and sisters to kill their fellow man, for what? freedom or $?
enddebtslavery 1 year ago
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@enddebtslavery in 3:28 and 16:106 it says that it is permissible to deceive the unbelievers ( al taqiyya) just like muhammad ibn maslama did to Ka'b ibn al ashraf
israelipatriot19 1 year ago
@enddebtslavery So if Mohammad did it, then the Muslims have to do it because Muhammad is defined as a an excellent model of conduct (uswa hasana) and a the perfect human (al Insan al Kamil)
israelipatriot19 1 year ago
@israelipatriot19 Look, i don't give a f**k what any book says Bible,Talmud or Qur'an, its all garbage there for control, thats it. But i don't hate anybody who believes this nonsence, its their belief, who i do hate are people who use it as an excuse to murder other people and whether you like it or not most religions are guilty of that.
Please do not quote fictional passages from 'scriptures' and expect me to engage in debate about them, going back to basics here, its just mythical.
enddebtslavery 1 year ago
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israelipatriot19 1 year ago
@enddebtslavery You wrote that we are killing innocent people, then prove that they are innocent
israelipatriot19 1 year ago
@israelipatriot19 You support zionism, thats it plain simple. You are driven by belief in a fictional higher power, fucking nonsence. If i believe something is made up then reading it will not then convince me its real. The problem with religion is no matter which you believe, you can have no logic in any arguement if your debate is based on a book which someone told you was the 'truth'.
enddebtslavery 1 year ago
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israelipatriot19 1 year ago
@enddebtslavery First of all, I'm not a Zionist. Zionists want a secular state within limited borders, I want all of Israel.
Secondly, unfortunately there are over a billion Muslims that believe in their religion. The discussion here is not about what is real and what isn't . We are discussing If there are moderate Muslims or not. all the schools of islamic jurisprudence ( Hanafi, Hanbali, Maliki, Shafi'i)+ the Shi'ites all agree on the issue of Jihad, so there are no moderate muslims
israelipatriot19 1 year ago
@israelipatriot19 Bollocks, zionists want the complete destruction of Palestine, and as long as i have breath in me that land will always be known as Palestine. So every muslim in the world is a fanatical nutjob eh? You are a child who lacks the ability to think on individual issues, it all comes down to that group versus this group.
Please spare me the zionist ideology, you sacrifice genuine jews for political bullshit which is all about control and profit.
Fuck you.
enddebtslavery 1 year ago
@enddebtslavery First of all, there is no such thing as Palestine. your not contradicting me, just a load of crap without sources. Islam killed over a milion Jews, Mohammad alone killed 25 thousand according to Ibn Ishaq. was there any Israel back then?!
Islam is the only political Ideology with universal goals because the Islamic calendar starts in the hijra.
I want a Jewish state within the limited land of Israel, not beyond.
They want to implement sharia universally, not me.
israelipatriot19 1 year ago
@enddebtslavery I'm still waiting for you to show me that there are moderate Muslims and that there are sects within Islam that reject the idea of jihad
israelipatriot19 1 year ago
@israelipatriot19 I've got nothing to show, if you believe all muslims are fanatical then fine, i think you're a fucking idiot for thinking that. And just maybe all the muslims you come across hate you because you murder their brothers and sisters so you can steal their homeland.
Stop wasting my life retard you aren't bright enough to keep me interested.
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@enddebtslavery it's not there homeland and i just told you that the killing began in the hijra, when Muhammad received defensive and offensive revelations (according to Ibn Ishaq). There was no Israel at that time.
The Rashidun, Banu Umayyah, the Abbasids and the al Muwahhidun killed a million Jews.
israelipatriot19 1 year ago
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@enddebtslavery f these verses are not relevant then why did the sixteen thousand attacks that were carried out by Muslims since September eleven were inspired and justified by these verses?
israelipatriot19 1 year ago
@israelipatriot19 And i suppose you believe Osama Bin Laden carried out 9/11 eh?
enddebtslavery 1 year ago
@enddebtslavery as the perfect *****
israelipatriot19 1 year ago
@israelipatriot19 ,@enddebtslavery I agree the Holocaust is over used! I think Zionist jews are Cowards,because they wont straight say what they want, and if they did... Do you think Israel would exist?
jew4palestine 11 months ago
@enddebtslavery if this is not true with you're line of thinking did the holocaust ever happen? Peace
jew4palestine 1 year ago
@jew4palestine My comment was sarcasm, its a language barrier thing. But please stop using the holocaust in every arguement that involves israel, not matter what happened during WW2 it cannot justify the genocide of another people, who were nothing to do with the holocaust.
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No justice No peace
portsanity 1 year ago